Richard Ferguson

June Internationals: Springboks v England


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 16 Jun 2018 at 14:00
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It’s been a funny couple of weeks for Springbok supporters, first we had to endure THAT Wales game and negativity that followed that. That feeling was worsened by the first 20 minutes of rugby last week, and then suddenly this euphoria of beating England in the first test. So what awaits us this weekend?

I’d love to say that there will be more positivity than negativity, but I suspect the English will come back hard in this game and give the Boks another close game. After the win last week, the Boks have no excuses but to win this match. So no pressure.

An unchanged backline gives the back three another opportunity to show their mettle, after being so good last week. Willie really impressed, so I hope he will continue in the same vain. Faf was also brilliant, so we need to see more of that. Both centres disappointed a little, they will have to show up, especially with both Esterhuizen and Kriel breathing down their necks.

The big news this week is the milestone match for the Beast. What an occasion for the big fella, I truly hope he breaks this sad record the Boks have of losing milestone matches. Come on boys, give the big guy a good one!

Kick off is at 17h05 in what is likely to be a chilly Bloemfontein.

Teams

South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Sibusiso Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Aphiwe Dyantyi, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Francois de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siya Kolisi (captain), 5 Franco Mostert, 4 RG Snyman, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Mbongeni Mbonambi, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Replacements: 16 Armand van der Merwe, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Thomas du Toit, 19 Jean-Luc du Preez, 20 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 21 Ivan van Zyl, 22 Jesse Kriel, 23 Warrick Gelant.

England: 15 Elliot Daly, 14 Jonny May, 13 Henry Slade, 12 Owen Farrell, 11 Mike Brown, 10 George Ford, 9 Ben Youngs, 8 Billy Vunipola, 7 Tom Curry, 6 Brad Shields, 5 Maro Itoje, 4 Joe Launchbury, 3 Kyle Sinckler, 2 Jamie George, 1 Mako Vunipola.
Replacements: 16 Luke Cowan-Dickie, 17 Joe Marler, 18 Harry Williams, 19 Mark Wilson, 20 Nathan Hughes, 21 Ben Spencer, 22 Danny Cipriani, 23 Denny Solomona.

Date: Saturday, 16 June 2018
Venue: Free State Stadium, Bloemfontein
Kick-off: 17.00 (16.00 UK time; GMT 15.00)
Expected weather: There may be storms in the Cape but not in the Free State where Saturday is expected to be Highveld sunny and cold – a high of 14°C and a low of -1°C.
Referee: Romain Poite (France)
Assistant referees: Glen Jackson (New Zealand), Ben O’Keeffe (New Zealand)
TMO: Simon McDowell (Ireland)



117 Comments

  • Bloodbath in Bloem coming for the Pomgolians.

  • Comment 1, posted at 16.06.18 14:02:36 by McLovin Reply
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  • Brilliant for Beast.

    Hope he has a cracker.

  • Comment 2, posted at 16.06.18 14:04:59 by McLovin Reply
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  • Another wheel to come flying off Gollum Jones’ chariot today.

  • Comment 3, posted at 16.06.18 14:06:14 by McLovin Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 3) : Hope we sorted our defense and our bench keeps the intensity.

  • Comment 4, posted at 16.06.18 14:31:17 by coolfusion Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 4) : It’s all good.

    Sit back.

    Relax.

    Enjoy.

    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 5, posted at 16.06.18 14:39:22 by McLovin Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 4) : Plus we have Sonny-Bill de Allende there to carve it up today. :twisted:

  • Comment 6, posted at 16.06.18 14:42:00 by McLovin Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 6) : U Joker ;) . But I do wish that your confidence is vindicated we need that.

  • Comment 7, posted at 16.06.18 15:33:13 by coolfusion Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 3) : Dude you really got me revved up for this game. You’d make a brilliant cheerleader.

  • Comment 8, posted at 16.06.18 16:27:39 by coolfusion Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 8) : Wait till you see my pom-poms. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 9, posted at 16.06.18 16:39:31 by McLovin Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 9) : You’ll understand if I pass…?

  • Comment 10, posted at 16.06.18 17:17:28 by coolfusion Reply
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  • Who thought it was a good idea to pick Malherbe cold…he has looked strained in every scrum and give a way a penalty when we had to score!

  • Comment 11, posted at 16.06.18 17:20:43 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Boks generous again today.

  • Comment 12, posted at 16.06.18 17:22:41 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • England backline giving trouble out wide. We need to contain that.

  • Comment 13, posted at 16.06.18 17:23:20 by coolfusion Reply

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  • England leads 12-0 after 14 minutes

  • Comment 14, posted at 16.06.18 17:23:47 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Possession will be key. We can’t allow that backline space.

  • Comment 15, posted at 16.06.18 17:25:06 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Boks need to calm down and be patient

  • Comment 16, posted at 16.06.18 17:32:04 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • As good as Faf was last week as poor he is today

  • Comment 17, posted at 16.06.18 17:33:18 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Thor scores after a great run from Beast

  • Comment 18, posted at 16.06.18 17:35:11 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Nice work beast great follow Thor.

  • Comment 19, posted at 16.06.18 17:35:53 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 18) : well its a different ref … no rolling anything goes at the breakdown

  • Comment 20, posted at 16.06.18 17:36:19 by byron Reply

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  • 12-7

  • Comment 21, posted at 16.06.18 17:36:31 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 17) : He needs to settle. That blindsided was just not on.

  • Comment 22, posted at 16.06.18 17:36:48 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Massive clearance from Faf

  • Comment 23, posted at 16.06.18 17:39:05 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Lots of I’ll discipline by England allowing us advantage. We can’t bank on this with other teams.

  • Comment 24, posted at 16.06.18 17:40:13 by coolfusion Reply

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  • 12-10

  • Comment 25, posted at 16.06.18 17:40:31 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • De Allende doing some good work so far.

  • Comment 26, posted at 16.06.18 17:41:33 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Lots of handbags today

  • Comment 27, posted at 16.06.18 17:42:03 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • These Poms are a dirty bunch.

  • Comment 28, posted at 16.06.18 17:43:47 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • That is poor refereeing

  • Comment 29, posted at 16.06.18 17:43:51 by byron Reply

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  • Number 1 slaps, number 4 kicks…No cards? Pathetic…

  • Comment 30, posted at 16.06.18 17:44:18 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 27) : well, the poms are picking fights and the ref is doing nothing

  • Comment 31, posted at 16.06.18 17:45:24 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 31) : After all the handbags English 1 should have been sent off to get the niggles to stop

  • Comment 32, posted at 16.06.18 17:47:16 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Malherbe is nowhere…

  • Comment 33, posted at 16.06.18 17:47:33 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 32) : Absolutely…

  • Comment 34, posted at 16.06.18 17:47:54 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Im not quite sure how a hooker can preengage

  • Comment 35, posted at 16.06.18 17:48:28 by byron Reply

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  • Faf is a tough bugger.

  • Comment 36, posted at 16.06.18 17:51:04 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Pollard kicks a 60 m penalty for Boks to take the lead

  • Comment 37, posted at 16.06.18 17:54:06 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Comeback to take the lead after conceding early tries…again…
    Well done, Boks…

  • Comment 38, posted at 16.06.18 17:54:28 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Great run from Bongi. Pity we could not do more with that

  • Comment 39, posted at 16.06.18 17:56:05 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 36) : Maybe too tough like Lambie writing checks his body won’t always be able to cash. I’d rather he don’t put himself in too much danger we don’t have an adequate replacement.

  • Comment 40, posted at 16.06.18 17:56:17 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I’d like the forwards to keep up the physicality it seems to give us an edge as the game progresses. Need to starve them as much as we can.

  • Comment 41, posted at 16.06.18 17:58:59 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 32) : Yes off the ball and disruptive second time same player too lenient.

  • Comment 42, posted at 16.06.18 18:02:21 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 42) : If I’m not mistaken this guy was a bad apple previous game as well.

  • Comment 43, posted at 16.06.18 18:04:26 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Dian a bit too deep and far on the red zone.

  • Comment 44, posted at 16.06.18 18:05:41 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 43) : Got yellow last week

  • Comment 45, posted at 16.06.18 18:06:05 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 45) : Yup. A dirty player.

  • Comment 46, posted at 16.06.18 18:06:36 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 46) : Habitual by the looks of it.

  • Comment 47, posted at 16.06.18 18:07:25 by coolfusion Reply

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  • We should be taking them on more with our forwards.

  • Comment 48, posted at 16.06.18 18:12:25 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Excellent chase from Nkosi.

  • Comment 49, posted at 16.06.18 18:13:38 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 49) : Made me so proud.

  • Comment 50, posted at 16.06.18 18:13:50 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Thor is starting come more and more into the game

  • Comment 51, posted at 16.06.18 18:16:33 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Thomas and Ginger on now

  • Comment 52, posted at 16.06.18 18:17:09 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Good passage such great pouncing by faf

  • Comment 53, posted at 16.06.18 18:17:23 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 52) : Soon

  • Comment 54, posted at 16.06.18 18:17:34 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Should have been a scrum penalty

  • Comment 55, posted at 16.06.18 18:21:51 by byron Reply

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  • England front row … on a 30 degree downward every scrum

  • Comment 56, posted at 16.06.18 18:22:34 by byron Reply

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  • Penalty try. How far has the Tank come in his road to tighthead

  • Comment 57, posted at 16.06.18 18:23:36 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Thomas dutoit just ate england … penalty try

  • Comment 58, posted at 16.06.18 18:23:40 by byron Reply

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  • Akker on now

  • Comment 59, posted at 16.06.18 18:24:37 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @byron (Comment 58) : Yup. Malherbe not good enough that’s what I see. Kitsie also just great.

  • Comment 60, posted at 16.06.18 18:24:40 by coolfusion Reply

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  • England starting to make mistakes now

  • Comment 61, posted at 16.06.18 18:25:18 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 60) : to be fair … Malherbe has been out for a while… it showed

  • Comment 62, posted at 16.06.18 18:26:27 by byron Reply

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  • @byron (Comment 62) : Sure so I’ll ammend not good enough….yet

  • Comment 63, posted at 16.06.18 18:27:48 by coolfusion Reply

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  • JLDP on for Snyman

  • Comment 64, posted at 16.06.18 18:29:52 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • No try. Sneaky Farrell

  • Comment 65, posted at 16.06.18 18:31:20 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Excellent maul defense by the Boks

  • Comment 66, posted at 16.06.18 18:32:58 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 65) : to be fair … the ref had not called try

  • Comment 67, posted at 16.06.18 18:33:51 by byron Reply

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  • @byron (Comment 67) : Ref did call and then decided to review. Farrell tried to convert quickly

  • Comment 68, posted at 16.06.18 18:37:56 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 23-12

  • Comment 69, posted at 16.06.18 18:43:32 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 66) : Yes very well done second time I saw that today

  • Comment 70, posted at 16.06.18 18:44:25 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 70) : I love it

  • Comment 71, posted at 16.06.18 18:44:48 by coolfusion Reply

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  • De Allende has a real problem taking the ball into contact

  • Comment 72, posted at 16.06.18 18:45:08 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Finally Poms get a yellow card

  • Comment 73, posted at 16.06.18 18:47:02 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 72) : just taking the ball up?

  • Comment 74, posted at 16.06.18 18:47:03 by byron Reply

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  • @byron (Comment 74) : Loses the ball in contact 8 out of 10 times

  • Comment 75, posted at 16.06.18 18:47:43 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Diesnt organise defence …. doesnt pass … steps inside on a 4 on 5

  • Comment 76, posted at 16.06.18 18:49:51 by byron Reply

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  • Fafs lapse luckily turned into offside.bad pass thought

  • Comment 77, posted at 16.06.18 18:50:31 by coolfusion Reply

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  • How the hell was that out?

  • Comment 78, posted at 16.06.18 18:51:58 by byron Reply

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  • Akker needs to sort out his lineouts

  • Comment 79, posted at 16.06.18 18:53:03 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Oh dear. Van Zyl on now

  • Comment 80, posted at 16.06.18 18:53:38 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 80) : Oh dear is right

  • Comment 81, posted at 16.06.18 18:54:38 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 81) : Weak replacement

  • Comment 82, posted at 16.06.18 18:55:28 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Best van Zyl can do now is distribution

  • Comment 83, posted at 16.06.18 18:56:04 by coolfusion Reply

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  • No tap … no mark mr ref

  • Comment 84, posted at 16.06.18 18:57:13 by byron Reply

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  • Come on Pollard bring the kicks

  • Comment 85, posted at 16.06.18 18:57:24 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Well done Boks.

    But the poms were poor. :roll:

  • Comment 86, posted at 16.06.18 18:58:29 by McLovin Reply

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  • Boks win the series

  • Comment 87, posted at 16.06.18 18:59:17 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Only thing that was spectacular from England today was the level of their stupidity.

    How they only got one yellow is a mystery. :evil:

  • Comment 88, posted at 16.06.18 18:59:46 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 86) : Such bad discipline from England. It helps us but can’t be our crutch.

  • Comment 89, posted at 16.06.18 19:00:21 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Looking forward to Gollum’s post match interview. :twisted:

  • Comment 90, posted at 16.06.18 19:00:55 by McLovin Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 89) : Certainly helped.

    But helps the Boks. Learning and growing.

  • Comment 91, posted at 16.06.18 19:01:48 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 90) : Why so hard on Eddie? His players on filed discipline let him down.

  • Comment 92, posted at 16.06.18 19:01:54 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 91) : Agreed

  • Comment 93, posted at 16.06.18 19:02:13 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 92) : He loves to play the press game when he’s winning.

    But can’t handle it when he’s team is not.

    And why does he get involved arguing with fans?

    No other int’l coach does that. Very poor.

  • Comment 94, posted at 16.06.18 19:03:57 by McLovin Reply

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  • Other than the front row, there are no impact players off the bench!

  • Comment 95, posted at 16.06.18 19:04:13 by Julesgr8ter Reply
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  • Piss poor interview from Ben Youngs after the match.

    Petulant, disrespectful and unprofessional.

  • Comment 96, posted at 16.06.18 19:05:22 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 96) : I will support anyone who plays against England in any sport – even Australia

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 92) : @McLovin (Comment 94) : EJ is in really trouble and I have a feeling that if Bokke wins next week he might be out of a job before they leave SA!?

  • Comment 98, posted at 16.06.18 22:05:44 by JD Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 88) : for sure they we very lucky to get only one yellow card!

  • Comment 99, posted at 16.06.18 22:07:55 by JD Reply
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  • It’s worrying that the Boks learned nothing from the 1st test’s defensive errors in the first 20 minutes. The AB’s will put 40 points past is in that time if we don’t sort that shit out.

  • Comment 100, posted at 17.06.18 08:30:25 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 94) : To be honest I never watch press conferences, so I have no idea about his integrity or professionalism. I always pegged him as a more mature and amiable person.

  • Comment 101, posted at 17.06.18 09:51:36 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 98) : As much as I love to see ol’ Eddie squirm, I feel it would be a mistake to sack him.

    They’re just in a tough place right now. Unfortunately it’s coinciding with a Bok resurgence. And they’re away from home missing a few key personnel.

    They’ve had some exceptional results under him. He’s an intelligent coach. They’ll get better.

    Hopefully only after next week only. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 102, posted at 17.06.18 10:05:52 by McLovin Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 101) : Was just a post match, on field interview.

    Also had him down as a decent bloke.

    To his credit, he has apologised and set things right.

  • Comment 103, posted at 17.06.18 10:08:52 by McLovin Reply

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  • Eng went to Aus in 2016 and won 3 – 0.

    Reckon they thought they were going to do the same in SA this year. Especially considering it’s all change in the coaches box for SA and many inexperienced players playing for the Boks.

    No they’re staring at a possible 3 – 0 series defeat. Bit of a shock to the system for them.

  • Comment 104, posted at 17.06.18 10:15:25 by McLovin Reply

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  • And then this:

    ‘England’s defeat by South Africa was marred by a post-match confrontation between players Mike Brown and Joe Marler and fans.’

    Dear oh dear. :roll:

  • Comment 105, posted at 17.06.18 10:25:48 by McLovin Reply

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  • I hope Marler gets cited for taking out Mostert in the air when he jumped to attempt a boxkick charge-down. Mostert fell on his back in much the same way as Barrett did against France.

  • Comment 106, posted at 17.06.18 11:37:50 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 103) : Yeah it still just very unprofessional and it’ll be hard to defend himself from people calling him a sore loser.

    So with the series wrapped up I really hope Rassie uses the last test to give fringe players some good game time and give guys like Duane and Mostert a break.

  • Comment 107, posted at 17.06.18 11:51:51 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 106) : And fat Vunipola for hand to the face.

    And Itoje for kicking/trying to trip Faf.

  • Comment 108, posted at 17.06.18 12:02:08 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 108) : Those okes(Vunipola bro’s) are mercenaries, not even born in England. I’ve never liked their attitudes towards the game. Dirty players.

  • Comment 109, posted at 17.06.18 12:08:42 by Quintin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 108) : They tried their best to bait our guys but to me that’s part of the game and something we handled pretty well.

  • Comment 110, posted at 17.06.18 14:58:40 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 102) : I won’t fire him but think England rugby supporters and administrators might feel different especially after finishing 5th in Six Nations and now losing 2-0 (and dare I say possibly 3-0) to South Africa that’s currently 7th on the rankings!!! Also don’t underestimate the unhappiness with his decision to pick Shield (a New Zealander who did not even play a game in England) over other English born players.

  • Comment 111, posted at 17.06.18 22:36:07 by JD Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 108) : @McLovin (Comment 108) : although I don’t like the way they (Vunipola bros) play we must remember rugby is professional and players will go play where they can make a living for them and their families. Also remember we are playing wih a Zim born player and I would personally m#&$r anyone who dare call Beast a mercenary for playing in SA!!!

  • Comment 112, posted at 17.06.18 22:52:41 by JD Reply
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  • I think while we can debate the style of play and personnel etc the main thing we need to focus on is the result. And i can imagine that its the same of Rassie. Whilst he would probably like this and that done better his sole focus was on the Boks winning games again no matter how its done. I still think the 3rd test could be close and go either way, will be interesting what changes are made on both sides. Then onto the Rugby championship, looks like Aussies will be tough to beat especially over there. Argies look a bit of a spent force (perhaps too much effort in Super rugby). And then cant see us beating the All Blacks away.

  • Comment 113, posted at 18.06.18 08:21:37 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 113) : ja think Rassie is glad to have the victories but I’m sure these four games are more about finding the right combinations and having the players settle in his game style before the rugby championship.

  • Comment 114, posted at 18.06.18 11:15:26 by JD Reply
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  • I fail to see how Rassie can justify playing dum Dum de Allende ever again, unless they are family connections there.
    Every single time he touched the ball it was turned over,he missed tackles and added nothing to the game,in fact England probably saw him as their man of the match
    I hope Rassie wasn’t playing stupid games when he picked Andre ,Dan,Robert and Cam for that idiotic Wales game.In doing that he effectively ruled them all out of doing a Stander,and pledging their careers to a country who would appreciate them, like Vincent Koch is about to do.
    Also very disappointed not to see Gallant given no game time,Willie le Roux really looked like he had shot his bolt in the last 15 min of the test, he was cramping and limping, perfect opportunity to give that exciting youngster a run.
    The other thing I find hard to fathom is how in two tight needle games , can you sub the captain with 15 to go,unles he is really superfluous to the effort.
    And to sub him with a really ineffective player.

  • Comment 115, posted at 18.06.18 12:32:26 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 115) : Cam was not selected for the Wales game – so he could still qualify for another country.

  • Comment 116, posted at 18.06.18 12:56:59 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 116) : Good point,remember ;-) ;-) a scrum half called Rory Kockert

  • Comment 117, posted at 18.06.18 12:59:05 by The hound Reply
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