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JLDP makes the official SANZAAR Super Rugby team for 2018


Written by Henk Terblanche (Bokhoring)

Posted in :Super Rugby on 8 Aug 2018 at 10:22

SA has four players in the official Super Rugby team for 2018.

Weirdly the Crusaders have one 1 player who made it – probably shows how good a team they are.

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15 Israel Folau Waratahs Scored nine tries in his final eight games of the season, and made 11.4 carries per game – the most of any outside back (min 10 games).
14 Solomon Alaimalo Chiefs Made more clean breaks (43) than any other player, while only Taqele Naiyaravoro (1,478) gained more metres than the Chiefs’ flyer (1,447).
13 Anton Lienert-Brown Chiefs Beat 53 defenders, made 22 offloads, and was one of just three outside centres to make five or more clean breaks in a single game.
12 Michael Little Sunwolves Finished the campaign with 22 clean breaks and 56 defenders beaten – a team-high in each category.
11 George Bridge Crusaders Scored a club-record 15 tries in a single season and gained the third most metres of any player in the competition.
10 Damian McKenzie Chiefs Beat a joint-high 74 defenders for the season, kicked 62/80 goals, and scored more points (177) than any other New Zealand-based player.
9 TJ Perenara Hurricanes Was directly involved in 10 tries for the campaign (4 tries, 6 assists), and won 11 turnovers – four more than any other scrum half.
8 Akira Ioane Blues Beat a joint-high 74 defenders while no forward made more clean breaks (18) than the Blues back row, he also scored the second most tries of any forward (8).
7 Jean-Luc du Preez Sharks Made 31 offloads for the campaign, four more than any other player in the competition.
6 Pablo Matera Jaguares Won 13 turnovers (five more than he conceded) and was one of just three players to average 10+ carries and 10+ tackles per game.
5 Lodewyk De Jager Bulls Won 63 lineouts for the season, the equal third most of any player in the competition, including five lineout steals.
4 Brodie Retallick Chiefs Only two forwards (Marx, A Ioane) scored more tries than Retallick (6) this season, who also made 17 offloads and 106 carries.
3 Taniela Tupou Reds No prop forward scored more tries (4) or beat more defenders (24) than the Reds’ Taniela Tupou.
2 Malcolm Marx Lions Marx scored 12 tries – the most of any forward in a single Super Rugby season while he won the second most turnovers of any player (27).
1 Steven Kitschoff Stormers Made the most carries (117) and beat the second most defenders (17) of any prop.


46 Comments

  • How does the whole team look

  • Comment 1, posted at 08.08.18 10:24:23 by Gerriecellcshark Reply
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  • If you use the app, scroll down to see the table.

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.08.18 10:26:05 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • He seems to battle when not playing for his dad. Still owes us a huge game in the green and gold. May not get the chance as he is moving down the pecking order on a weekly basis. When Loodt is back to claim his number 5 jersey, JLPD will be behind Siya, Cyle Brink, Mostert and even PSDT unless he really starts to pull finger. Also seems very unfit which could affect his ability to keep up in a fast flowing game.

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.08.18 11:22:09 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • Must be a mistake – he is a Du Preez and as almost everyone here (especially) will tell you, they are all a waste of time on a rugby field. :twisted:

  • Comment 4, posted at 08.08.18 15:15:37 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Oh, by the way, well done on making the list JLDP, something that none of Siya, Cyle Brink, Mostert and even PSDT managed to do.

  • Comment 5, posted at 08.08.18 15:41:37 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 4) : I rate Jean Luc. Rob has some refinement needed but could get there soon like in a year or so. Dan is still spinning his wheels. That’s probably how some ppl feel about them individually and not as a package, which they aren’t and should not ever be.

  • Comment 6, posted at 08.08.18 15:45:01 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 6) : Jean Luc reminds me of Willem Alberts and he is good at the bash and tackle but needs to add a passsing ability to his game to be a good international. Rob for me is more of a 12 or a 15 than a 10…just seems rushed at 10 at the top level. Dan’s handling is not good, no way to sugar coat that. He is also fairly slow for a loose forward so for me he needs to look at playing 4 and then improve his handling. As for DuPreez Snr…a lot many other coaches have got a lot more stick than he has with better results…

  • Comment 7, posted at 08.08.18 16:29:05 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 7) : Good assesment but…”As for DuPreez Snr…a lot many other coaches have got a lot more stick than he has with better results…” thats true but that was mostly in the days when there were still plenty of Sharks “supporter” and all believed it was a God given right for us to be the greatest team on earth and when it didnt work out that way it was always the coaches fault with the result that that pressure was enough to maybe have some influence on board decissions. Looking at the Sharks of today, those days are gone, the fans have dried up and there are mostly hard core supporters hanging around, probably too scare to make much noise about the coach’s etc in case they are axed and we land up with the next best thing in primary schools coaching circles.

  • Comment 8, posted at 08.08.18 16:51:29 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 8) : It is clear when you compare Rob’s coaching CV with that of e.g. Scott Roberson that our coaches do not spend enough time doing the hard yards.

    Robertson:

    2008–2013 Canterbury (Assistant)
    2013–2016 Canterbury
    2015–2016 New Zealand U20
    2017– Crusaders

    Du Preez:
    2011–2013 College Rovers
    2014–2015 Leopards
    2016–present Sharks CC
    2017–present Sharks

  • Comment 9, posted at 08.08.18 17:32:05 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 9) : This is a general problem in SA.

    Plumtree, a former Sharks head coach, spent the last few years as assistant coach at the Canes

    The AB assistant coaches are all (most?) former head coaches in their own right

  • Comment 10, posted at 08.08.18 18:54:52 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 9) : Interview with Ackers on The Rugby Paper:

    “Do you ever reflect that had you stayed at the Lions you might have been South Africa’s head coach now?

    No. During 2017 when Allister Coetzee was being heavily criticised after the loss to Italy and other bad results, there was a whole period from December to March before I made my decision to come to Gloucester and there was already talk of Rassie Erasmus taking over. My phone didn’t ring once, nor did I get a message to ask whether it was something I’d consider, even as an assistant. I had no communication with anyone from SA Rugby and could only make decisions around what was on the table, which was stay with the Lions or go to Gloucester.”

  • Comment 11, posted at 08.08.18 19:06:00 by Baylion Reply

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  • This article is worth a read – Ronan O’Gara on his experience as assistant coach at the Crusaders:

    https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/crusaders-experience-life-changing-ronan-ogara-20180809

  • Comment 12, posted at 09.08.18 09:12:05 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 9) : You forget in SA decent and reasonably priced coaches are very scarce. A coach doesn’t have to make hard yards as we are so desperate for decent coaches they get to be picky and get offered the top job. There is less supply than demand. We have been recycling the same old blood since who knows when..you don’t see many new up and coming coaches in this country.

  • Comment 13, posted at 09.08.18 11:31:31 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Interesting to note that only attacking stats are mentioned. Except for Matera no reference to tackles made or missed. For me personally to select a team of the tournament that should also form part of selection criteria.

  • Comment 14, posted at 09.08.18 21:35:33 by JD Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 8) : Thats a pretty accurate comment

  • Comment 15, posted at 10.08.18 08:08:17 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 9) : Its really sad, and shocking, that we dont have the structures to replicate,even in part, the process that the top NZ coaches go through before their apprenticeship is done. Here a good Varsity Cup / Currie Cup automatically propels a coach onto the radar and lines him up for higher honours.

    The one positive of this is that there should be a good few good coaches in New Zealand that just may be willing to give SA rugby a look in – I very much doubt that our Super sides would be willing to bank the house on an (as yet) unknown coach.

  • Comment 16, posted at 10.08.18 10:00:51 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 15) : You must be pretty proud of Glenwood finshing the season unbeaten. On the few times that I saw them play this year they did not disappoint. A really great achievement by them.

  • Comment 17, posted at 10.08.18 10:02:58 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 17) : Yeh they are currently playing some good rugby and the results are coming with it which is great. I havnt seen them play that style of rugby since the current SA Schools soach Sean Erasmus was in charge. Of concern is the strength in depth as the results of the other sides particularly the Age Group A sides havnt been too good. The other obvious concern is the poor state of the other KZN Schools, not sure what is happening there. Nice to see DHS playing some good rugby again in patches and they definitely have some talent there.

  • Comment 18, posted at 10.08.18 10:18:25 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Sharks signed a number of SA Schools players

    They are:

    • Hanru Jacobs (Paul Roos Gymnasium)
    • Emile van Heerden (Paarl Boys High)
    • Lunga Ncube (Glenwood Boys High)
    • Evan Roos (Paarl Boys High)
    • Celimpilo Gumede (Durban High School)
    • Rynhardt Jonker (Glenwood High School)
    • Darren Hendricks (Boland Landbou)
    • Lwandile Menze (Durban High School)

    Another player on the list, Jaden Hendrikse from Glenwood High School played SA Schools last year but was not considered for selection this year due to injury.

  • Comment 19, posted at 10.08.18 11:55:43 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 19) : would have a though a number of the Selborne boys would also be on that list. The hooker in particular

  • Comment 20, posted at 10.08.18 12:15:09 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 19) : They had some good signings last year as well and so far its showing in the u19 results, still unbeaten and that includes wins against the Bulls and WP.

  • Comment 21, posted at 10.08.18 15:15:52 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 20) : And we do need to bleed in another hooker sooner rather than later.

  • Comment 22, posted at 10.08.18 17:36:46 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I ask again, why are we not in the running to sign Duane Vermuluen????? It is evident that the weakest link as a collective is from 4 to 8. From the forwards, our front row kept us in touch with other teams during SR15 but that back 5 could not get alcoholics in sheebin to drink. The front row and JLPD (who is injured 60% of the time), hence they feature more for the Boks are of international standard. We should be hunting for Duane to solidify our pack. We can’t expect to make an impact next year with average locks, an average openside flank and an average eighth man that can’t catch a ball even if his life depended on it. With Duane there, we would be able to cover up the other weaknesses in that pack and give us CONSISTENT momentum which would benefit our backs, especially a guy like Bosch who is actually taking pain from the ineffectiveness of that pack as a collective. Sharks can’t make decisions based on the Du preez family. Dan is not offering us anything solid from the back of the scrum and therefore makes the pack ineffective.

  • Comment 23, posted at 12.08.18 09:27:28 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • I see that Nick Easter is joining the Sharks as Defensive Coach for the CC

  • Comment 24, posted at 12.08.18 15:43:47 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 24) : Quins conceded the 3rd most tries in the AP last season and the Sharks recruit their defence coach. :???:

  • Comment 25, posted at 12.08.18 17:15:39 by Baylion Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 25) : Jobs for pals. If they are all mediocre then no ones job is threatened.

  • Comment 26, posted at 12.08.18 17:43:02 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 25) : Sounds par for the course as far as Sharks coaching recruitment goes

  • Comment 27, posted at 12.08.18 19:05:59 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 24) : interesting news. Let’s see how it goes!?

  • Comment 28, posted at 12.08.18 19:12:39 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 28) : Always get my hopes up. Not falling for that again :grin:

  • Comment 29, posted at 12.08.18 19:25:38 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Baylion (Comment 25) : Sharks should have been using the checkbook to shore up some player stocks.

  • Comment 30, posted at 13.08.18 09:12:07 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 7) : ”jl dup needs to add a passsing ability to his game to be a good internationa”l
    He made 31 offloads for the campaign, four more than any other player in the competition.
    Why all the hate for this kid.

  • Comment 31, posted at 13.08.18 11:04:33 by The hound Reply
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  • So this week end will be the acid test for rugby at Mahbida,when we get to watch The Sharks play Bordeaux in the new stadium on Fri,,and then get to watch Boks/Pumas in the shit pit on Saturday.

  • Comment 32, posted at 13.08.18 11:08:30 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 31) : I did say a pass not an offload. In an offload he is continually taking contact- and yes he may get the ball away but what happens immediately after that? Stats in isolation dont paint an accurate picture. If he was making a pass 1/2 of 3/4 times he gets the ball then the defense cant set to make a tackle on him as they wouldnt be sure if the ball would be shifted. He would then both break a lot more tackles making his offload that more effective or he could create space wider with a pass should they set on him. Dont get me wrong im by no means saying he is a bad player…just pointing out where he can improve and possibly extend his career and carrying everythig as he does will end his career in 3-4yrs

  • Comment 33, posted at 13.08.18 11:16:52 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 32) : There has been a rugby game at Moses Mabhida before. I quite liked the experience although they did tailor is very differently to the usual rugby experience. Im not expecting much of a crowd on friday- if they get 5 000 i would be impressed

  • Comment 34, posted at 13.08.18 11:18:03 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Not feeling good about sharks rugby.

    The Currie Cup is a fun development tournament these days but with the same player and coaching staff in place for next season I don’t see much of an improvement in super rugby happening. Yes the side will be more experienced but they were not better this year than last and its a similar side.

    I was very despondent to hear RdP Jnr name mentioned in the press as a possible Currie Cup captain. I have stated my views on the Du Preez family interests being put before the teams but no player should be captain of a side when he represented a rival team less than a year ago.

    Its not a nice place to be as a fan when you don’t even have a hope of success. We are in a holding pattern where after next year a lot of players will likely leave and a new coach will come in and then we can see where we stand but to have written off 2019 already isn’t much fun.

  • Comment 35, posted at 13.08.18 12:29:56 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • I see chilly is captain which is a good choice from what was available

  • Comment 36, posted at 13.08.18 16:48:48 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • What’s the point of this CC? Are we just winding down the year? Seems like we’ve entered the dying moments of an era.

  • Comment 37, posted at 13.08.18 20:25:55 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 37) : Just milking the nearly dead cow whilst waiting for the next Super rugby season!!!

  • Comment 38, posted at 13.08.18 21:59:13 by JD Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 31) : that’s also why he made the tournament dream team! Think it might be a case of personal perceptions or (from my own personal experience) mistaken identity by confusing the twins?!

  • Comment 39, posted at 13.08.18 22:06:44 by JD Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 29) : not even close to being excited about Currie cup was just super polite with that comment!

  • Comment 40, posted at 13.08.18 22:09:52 by JD Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 32) : Take it you’re attending both games? Must let us know about the experience at MM vs Kings Park.

  • Comment 41, posted at 13.08.18 22:14:14 by JD Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 32) :

    8 year old “new stadium”?

  • Comment 42, posted at 14.08.18 00:11:52 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @fyndraai (Comment 42) : everything is relative…compared to a 60 year old “old” stadium :mrgreen: :razz: Even in America nobody is replacing 8 year old stadiums YET. I say 10 years of calling a stadium new is appropriate :wink:

  • Comment 43, posted at 14.08.18 01:24:14 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 39) : JD, check again what Sheldon said, I don’t think he said that JL loses the ball in contact, but rather only has two options when carrying the ball, 1. offload, or 2. go to ground with the ball. With only those options, defenses can squeeze in on the ball carrier, since they only have to cover the tackle of JL or the person he offloads to who will be relatively close to the point of contact. If he were to add a passing option prior to entering the contact area, defenders would have to stay wide to cover the pass, thus when he does carry or offload, the tackle area will be less congested allowing him to either break a tackle and make significant metres, or offload to an open player who will make the metres. So I don’t think Sheldon was criticizing the way JL is playing but rather offering a way he could be even better. I agree with him on this.

  • Comment 44, posted at 14.08.18 01:34:03 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 44) : Yes pretty much what i was getting at with my comment.

  • Comment 45, posted at 14.08.18 08:16:14 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Baylion (Comment 25) : It looks like Ruck.co.uk got it wrong. Easter is joining as breakdown coach. We certainly need one.

  • Comment 46, posted at 14.08.18 08:30:42 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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