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Fassi starts at fullback against the Pumas


Written by Henk Terblanche (Bokhoring)

Posted in :Currie Cup on 5 Sep 2018 at 12:12

Bosch drops down to the bench and Akker will see some Currie Cup action from the bench. Stringer takes over the 6 jersey from Vosloo who drops to the bench.

1. Juan Schoeman
2. Chiliboy Ralepelle (Captain)
3. John-Hubert Meyer
4. Gideon Koegelenberg
5. Hyron Andrews
6. Luke Stringer
7. Tyler Paul
8. Daniel du Preez
9. Louis Schreuder
10. Robert du Preez
11. Lwazi Mvovo
12. Marius Louw
13. Jeremy Ward
14. Kobus van Wyk
15. Aphelele Fassi
16. Akker van der Merwe
17. Khutha Mchunu
18. Andrew Evans
19. Wian Vosloo
20. Cameron Wright
21. Johan Deysel
22. Curwin Bosch

The team bagged 5 points against pretty much a Varsity Cup Free State side strengthened by a couple of journeymen. However they will need a much better performance against the Pumas at home on Friday night.

 



201 Comments

  • Curious as to what RDP reason is behind this selection of Fassi? Does he think he is stronger in the tackle than Bosch? Interested to see how Stringer goes as he seems to be very involved and compete at most breakdowns. Pretty strong bench

  • Comment 1, posted at 05.09.18 12:24:52 by SheldonK Reply
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  • Pumas are slick, very little turnover in playing personnel, pacy outfit. I’m not sanguine about our hopes. I do agree with dropping Bosch, but then if Bosch, why not Dan Du Preez?

  • Comment 2, posted at 05.09.18 16:32:50 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 1) : called player development. You try a new player to start against the pumas, not against the Lions. Curwin Bosch to sub in as flyhalf?

  • Comment 3, posted at 05.09.18 18:33:27 by byron Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 1) : @byron (Comment 3) : Personally I would have played van Wyk (or Mvovo) at 15 and have Fassi on the wing.

  • Comment 4, posted at 05.09.18 22:58:11 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 4) : Exactly. If youre assumption is correct about the Bosch defense, which I must say is plausible then why not the experience on fullback it the man you know has good defense. Why lose a kicking option and use an inexperienced cover player. For my money I would have moved v Wyk to FB for the best defensive option. Let’s face it almost everyone in the backline has better defense than Bosch.

  • Comment 5, posted at 06.09.18 07:00:22 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @byron (Comment 3) : You can still try him just on his natural position. You have options to fill fb other than the green guy.

  • Comment 6, posted at 06.09.18 07:01:57 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 6) : Apparently Fassi has played mostly at fullback and has only recently been playing wing. I stand to be corrected. I read it a week or two ago.

  • Comment 7, posted at 06.09.18 07:15:53 by StevieS Reply
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  • @byron (Comment 3) : The why didnt Fassi play at fullback once in the Supersport Challenge? They play Winnar there every game…so now what about Winnaar player development? Surely Winaar should play and Fassi develop as a 15 in u21 comp?

  • Comment 8, posted at 06.09.18 08:24:01 by SheldonK Reply

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  • I think young Fassi can expect a barrage second only to the Battle of the Somme but probably more effective.

  • Comment 9, posted at 06.09.18 08:48:22 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 9) : Pumas dont really kick the ball though so perhaps that influenced the decision. Im interested to see how that Pumas flyhalf goes as he looks pretty good..wouldnt mind him as a Sharks backup

  • Comment 10, posted at 06.09.18 09:01:38 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 10) : I watched their one game and they were employing very clever tactical kicks. I fully expect them to test Fassi.

  • Comment 11, posted at 06.09.18 10:58:01 by StevieS Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 11) : It will be more chips and grubbers in behind our defensive line. We dont seem to run our 9 in that cover line so there is space in behind us.

  • Comment 12, posted at 06.09.18 11:10:08 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @StevieS (Comment 7) : Never heard of him at 15. He made me sit up and pay attention at wing. If he had only been a wing for a short time now it even more of an in your face sign that this is where he supposed to be. So why not grow him where he is more likely to grow and use the experienced guys at 15?

  • Comment 13, posted at 06.09.18 11:33:39 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 13) : Apparently he was a FB most of his career as mentioned before. Remember JP Peterson came into the sharks setup on a similar note.

  • Comment 14, posted at 06.09.18 11:45:49 by Uli Boelie Reply
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  • @Uli Boelie (Comment 14) : I have no issue of him playing at 15….but why now is the curious question? Surely a chance during Supersport challenge or even in 2nd half of a game would be better? Can feel for Bosch but also what abour Courtney Winnaar who was consistently at 15 for the Supersport Challenge team and played against Bordeaux.

  • Comment 15, posted at 06.09.18 11:49:57 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 10) : There is great analysis from Oom Rugby on the play in the Pumas – Sharks SRC game where the Puma flyhalf executed a pin point kick to just in the right area behind the Sharks centres – from which the Pumas then scored.

  • Comment 16, posted at 06.09.18 11:51:12 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 16) : I havnt seen that but Cheetahs scored last week off something similar. Can also remember it happening in Super rugby. Havnt noticed where our 9 is defending but seems gone are the days where the 9 runs that sweeping line behind our defensive line. Guys like Rory Kockett and Charl McCloed were good at it.

  • Comment 17, posted at 06.09.18 11:57:32 by SheldonK Reply

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  • I’m concerned about the backup TH Mchunu. Is there no one better contracted to the Sharks?

  • Comment 18, posted at 06.09.18 14:20:23 by sudhir Reply

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  • In an interview today, RdP Senior spoke of Fassie being a rotational replacement – so then why is Schreuder not rotated?

  • Comment 19, posted at 06.09.18 17:45:45 by Julesgr8ter Reply
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  • @Julesgr8ter (Comment 19) : Or rdp jnr for that matter, he was good at wp because willemse was knocking down the door, now no competition for position

  • Comment 20, posted at 06.09.18 19:47:14 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 20) : I have a feeling that even if there were competition he wouldn’t be worried about losing his position. Vd Walt was clearly competition for Dan’s spot but week after week even underperforming Dan kept his spot.

  • Comment 21, posted at 07.09.18 05:55:39 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 20) : @coolfusion (Comment 21) : I don’t want to accuse coach Rob of nepotism but with every bad game his boys have without there being a change makes it harder to ignore. He needs to be harder on the 3 du Preezs then anyone else in the squad.

  • Comment 22, posted at 07.09.18 07:29:56 by Hulk Reply

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  • In terms of the 3 DuPreez boys- fact is that all 3 are good players but fact also remains that even despite Jean-Luc making the super rugby team(still not sure about that) all 3 boys are not playing as well as they can and should be playing. Whether they are coasting as they are too comfortable im not sure but i cant say any of them have progressed this year and if anything their performances have gone backwards. The Sharks need all 3 playing well as i have said they are good players.

  • Comment 23, posted at 07.09.18 07:53:01 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Oh man, I wish Rob du Preez and his 3 sons would all just pack up and head north (Im sure they will al be accommodated somewhere) and then the Sharks faithful can look forward to supporting a top class coach and players once again. Really now – just go, Ive had enough of the daily wet blanket whinning that permeates this place regarding the Du Preez”s. It reminds me of the last months of the Plum era.

    So its either the Du Preez’s leaving or me – and I am not going anywhere. :twisted: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 24, posted at 07.09.18 10:43:58 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Hulk (Comment 22) : Jean-luc is the best of the 3, Dan soap hands also scored of a difficult pass to catch against the cheetahs. Rob jnr though has been declining in confidence and performance since the rebels loss. Bench him for 2 games let him work his way back.

  • Comment 25, posted at 07.09.18 10:59:22 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 25) : Cant bench RDP Jnr as there isnt anyone in KZN that can play 10 other than him :mrgreen: :cool:

  • Comment 26, posted at 07.09.18 11:02:42 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 26) : Of course there is, there is Curwin Bosch, why not play him there?

  • Comment 27, posted at 07.09.18 11:13:06 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 26) : Who else do you suggest – you are much closer to the action being in Durban and knowing the club scenario. Ditto for Dan and JL.

  • Comment 28, posted at 07.09.18 11:17:19 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 27) : Curwin is a 15 for me…although he seems to be struggling to make the team there currently :mrgreen: In terms of options at 10…slim pickings im afraid as cant see anyone in the group (Bosch aside) as dont think that Visagie chap is up to it and Winnaar more of a 15 too. Club wise nobody really (club standard hasnt been great this year). For me JL just needs to add more dimension to his game much the same as Marcel Coetzee needed to do at one stage. As for Dan- still think he should play 4. In terms of replacements at 8…tricky one as VD Walt in Japan, dont think Terra is the answer. Would have like to see Jaques Vermuelen there but not sure where he is? Same as 10 think we short of options here. Some of our juniors are showing some promise but dont think any are ready to make that step up effectively.

  • Comment 29, posted at 07.09.18 11:25:54 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 24) :Rob jnr second highest points scorer in super rugby 2018,went 25 kicks without a miss,
    JL,springbok players player of the year 2017 at age 21, this award voted by the players themselves not the so called journalists at News 24
    ,super rugby team of year 2018,most off loads by any player in the tournament.
    What the fuck else must these guys do to gain your respect.

  • Comment 30, posted at 07.09.18 11:44:33 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 30) : I dont think its about respect at all. Its about being able to say a guy is currently not performing as well as he should and also about having healthy competition. There is definitely not healthy competition currently.

  • Comment 31, posted at 07.09.18 11:51:52 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Just a thought, what if nepotism is not a thing? Wonder if the expectations to perform because they are the coach’s sons; the coach being harder on them than others perhaps is a thing??

  • Comment 32, posted at 07.09.18 12:02:40 by Julesgr8ter Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 30) : Read it again – I guess I should have laid on the sarcasm thicker and in more flowery language. I am with you on the Du Preezs, I like them and think that the Sharks would be in a pickle without them. I dont want them to go, not at all.

  • Comment 33, posted at 07.09.18 12:03:07 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 31) : Depends on your definition of healthy competition.In NZ they say it is harder to get out of the AB’s team than to get into it.Hence Beauden’s game against the Aussies when he scored 4 tries, the peanut gallery were all shouting for him to be dropped and replaced by the Crusaders 10 Richie Mo’unga.
    Hansen let it all fall on deaf ears and the result was probably the best performance ever by a no 10 in test rugby.
    Don’t ever remember when your sentiments were expressed concerning Honnibal,James or Lambie when they were fit they played,

  • Comment 34, posted at 07.09.18 12:04:36 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 30) : Do you think I should ask for the admin guys to delete my post in case the Du Preez boy s read it and get the wrong idea as well. :shock:

  • Comment 35, posted at 07.09.18 12:10:29 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 34) : Well for me healthy competition is Mo’unga putting pessure on Barrett to perform and well he was pushed to do his best. Who at the Sharks is pushing RDP Jnr at 10 to perform better? (im not saying he is rubbish just that he isnt playing at his best level). Same goes for Dan at 8. People are asking questions because RDP changes others who have an off game but none of his sons, that is a fact. So yes the 3 DuPreez boys are good…too good to be beyond criticism? Sorry for me they are not that good.

  • Comment 36, posted at 07.09.18 12:17:37 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 35) : You should be allright,t as long as you are sure that they don’t know your address.Imagine opening your front door and finding Rob and his three sons ,even Coenie would shit himself ;-)

  • Comment 37, posted at 07.09.18 12:18:09 by The hound Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 36) : Don’t understand your question, who do you think should be playing instead of them, on the one hand you say they should be dropped, and on the other you say there is no one pushing them. Not their fault that no one is pushing them, its the fault of those who should be pushing them.

  • Comment 38, posted at 07.09.18 12:23:31 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 37) : I know Rob from his Pretoria days – one tough cookie as a youngster..

  • Comment 39, posted at 07.09.18 12:24:52 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 36) : No one is too good to be beyond criticism, but I think your own @SheldonK (Comment 29) : answers your question to an extent – who is really pushing them?

  • Comment 40, posted at 07.09.18 12:27:42 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 36) : Do you know if Marco Palvie is still playing rugby?

  • Comment 41, posted at 07.09.18 12:30:31 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 38) : Thats exactly my question…who is there pushing them? We cant drop them because there is nobody, or doesnt seem to be anyone. Bosch was possibly an option at 10 but he hasnt had a look in so no i wouldnt consider him an option. So yes the DuPreez boys arent playing well, but can we drop them- no, becuase there is nobody else…and that isnt healthy competition and not good for the team. Sharks badly need to recruit at 10 and 8

  • Comment 42, posted at 07.09.18 12:31:15 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 41) : Ya i saw his name pop up on the junior team sheet- still feel he is one of the school boy wonders that hasnt improved his game enough at a senior level, but maybe its just taking time. Will keep and eye out, same goes for that JJ Van Der Mescht.

  • Comment 43, posted at 07.09.18 12:32:38 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 42) : So who in your estimation is playing well and doesn’t need to be pushed or replaced in the team or is it just the coaches sons who are the problem

  • Comment 44, posted at 07.09.18 12:35:02 by The hound Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 43) : I only ever saw him play 3 times and that was at the Academy week a few years ago and he impressed big time. Its a pity he hasnt hit his straps (yet).

  • Comment 45, posted at 07.09.18 12:40:59 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 44) : To be frank the Sharks are playing pretty shite rugby, yes they winning games but its not pleasant to watch with the number of mistakes and poor decisions. Vosloo is moved to the bench as Stringer came on and played well last week (thats healthy competition). Should Bosch have been dropped for Fassi- no i dont think so. If RDP was so adament to play Fassi then Bosch should have been moved to 10 as he actually did well there last week.(Leads to my point about unhealthy competition at 10). I think our 2 centres Louw/Ward/Deysel are all palying well but they being rotated throughout the game so are pushing each other.(again healthy competiton) Same applies with Schreuder/Wright at 9.(healthy competition)

  • Comment 46, posted at 07.09.18 12:42:40 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 45) : He is a Glenwood boy so i watched him a bit ( van Der Mescht too). I tend to look at what makes these guys so good at a younger level and well for both is that they were bigger and more physical than their peers at that level and as such excelled. Now after school everyone catches up physically so now what stands them above the rest…can they improve other aspects of their game better than their peers can to still be a level above? Thats what im waiting to see.

  • Comment 47, posted at 07.09.18 12:45:35 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 47) : I finally understand your antagonism, those bloody du Preez boys never went to Glenwood.

  • Comment 48, posted at 07.09.18 12:56:08 by The hound Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 47) : I hear you about the size issue but at Academy Week Palvie was not really bigger than the opposition and he still stood out. Van der Mescht is a giant and Im sure that when you are that size you can “coast” while still playing junior rugby. Regarding Van der Mescht, we must not forget that this time last year he was still wearing a school uniform, ie he is still very young, we should not be judging him as a senior player but as an under 19 player.

  • Comment 49, posted at 07.09.18 12:57:40 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 47) : Are you going to the game tonite?

  • Comment 50, posted at 07.09.18 12:58:10 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 48) : Not at all- im just glad some KZN school boys actually stay in KZN. I really think you have me very wrong here. I think all 3 DuPreez boys are good players, BUT i dont feel they are curently playing well and only reason i can think of is that they are far to comfy and not being pushed to do better. All 3 do have shortcomings in their games and are by no means perfect. They are still good players though and i dont think anyone is saying they arent.
    @The hound (Comment 50) : I dont think so, as depends on when my work function ends which is meant to be halfway through the game. So may not even be able to watch it live. I am taping it as curious to see how the Pumas 10 goes and also how the Sharks pack deal with the very physical Pumas pack.

  • Comment 51, posted at 07.09.18 13:12:09 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 49) : Yeh look i think Palvie has more strings to his bow than just size, has suffered a few injuries though. So as i said im keeping an eye on how they progress. Just seems these days we want to elevate guys from the sa schools team to super rugby starter and then Bok side with 12 months. Its crazy.

  • Comment 52, posted at 07.09.18 13:14:02 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Loving the comments guys. I must say though that the du Preez boys have had a lot of criticism here especially from Sheldon K. If they weren’t the coaches sons would this criticism still be labelled against them? I think not! Dan has played well in the last two games but still gets slaughtered for 1 or 2 errors. Against Bordeaux he knocked on a couple of times and was heavily criticised but in the same game Tyler Paul and Akker butchered try scoring opportunities but were forgiven because of the wind. So what I am trying to say is that don’t criticise players unfairly. Playing Bosch at 10 and Fassi at 15 is risky defensively. Our depth in certain positions isn’t that great hence the lack of rotation. Support the players and criticise them when they don’t perform. Measure all of them with the same standard.

  • Comment 53, posted at 07.09.18 13:50:33 by sudhir Reply

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  • @sudhir (Comment 53) : Sorry but you are way off the mark. Each to their own opinion though.

  • Comment 54, posted at 07.09.18 13:54:51 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 54) : Maybe I am. Hope I didn’t offend you as that was not my intention. If I did so then I apologise. The point I was trying to make was that sometimes we hold certain players to such high standards that when they lose a bit of form then all we see is the mistakes. I have been guilty of this myself wrt Claasens and Chilli.

  • Comment 55, posted at 07.09.18 14:07:20 by sudhir Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 35) : No worries dude. They can’t read. Else they would have acted on daddy’s note telling them to stop dropping the ball and kick with their eyes open.

  • Comment 56, posted at 07.09.18 14:07:37 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Too bad there wasn’t a way for us to hang on to Tristan Tedder he could have been a good thron in the flesh to Rob and Bosch

  • Comment 57, posted at 07.09.18 14:10:00 by coolfusion Reply

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  • G’day gents. Does anyone know if the Sharks game will be televised on ANY other channel than what DSTV has to offer?

  • Comment 58, posted at 07.09.18 14:38:18 by Karl Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 56) : :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 59, posted at 07.09.18 15:13:28 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 57) : I forgot about him, so where is he setting the rugby world alight at the moment?

  • Comment 60, posted at 07.09.18 15:14:42 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Looks like heavy rain for tonites game ,Sods law wonderful weather the entire week, come game time the shittest weather pulls in.

  • Comment 61, posted at 07.09.18 15:26:25 by The hound Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 60) : I hear he is moving on from Toulouse. Where I don’t know.

  • Comment 62, posted at 07.09.18 16:14:11 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 62) : I kinda lost track of him after his French move.

  • Comment 63, posted at 07.09.18 16:19:06 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 63) : Looks like he’s with Bayonne now…

  • Comment 64, posted at 07.09.18 16:21:17 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Is anyone else having issues with the dstv app cutting out after a few seconds?

  • Comment 65, posted at 07.09.18 19:13:41 by Karl Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 65) : Yip

  • Comment 66, posted at 07.09.18 19:14:17 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 65) : But all you are missing is us playing kak agian

  • Comment 67, posted at 07.09.18 19:14:38 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 67) : Kak is an understatement

  • Comment 68, posted at 07.09.18 19:17:35 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 68) : It is a game they should cake walk, so they’ll fuck it up for sure

  • Comment 69, posted at 07.09.18 19:18:31 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Well even SS doesn’t have running commentry. So if you guys can help us out

  • Comment 70, posted at 07.09.18 19:19:53 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 69) : That”s a given

  • Comment 71, posted at 07.09.18 19:20:41 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 70) : Kak, knock, forward pass, kak, not passing with men in space, kak. Their forwards teaching ours a lesson

  • Comment 72, posted at 07.09.18 19:21:48 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 70) : So far error-ridden rubbish

  • Comment 73, posted at 07.09.18 19:21:57 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 70) : 0-0 18 minutes

  • Comment 74, posted at 07.09.18 19:22:06 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 72) : Score?

  • Comment 75, posted at 07.09.18 19:22:17 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Sharks 7 – 0 Pumas

  • Comment 76, posted at 07.09.18 19:27:07 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 75) : Jem ward with a nice pickup and score 7-0 21 minutes. Good grubber by rdp jnr. Pumas close to getting a card

  • Comment 77, posted at 07.09.18 19:27:15 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Keeping the ball in hand now and win a breakdown penalty. Kick for corner but poor maul and driven into touch. Stringer off.

  • Comment 78, posted at 07.09.18 19:29:58 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Pumas error after the lineout. Our attacking scrum 5m out.

  • Comment 79, posted at 07.09.18 19:31:27 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Schoemann does not look very comfortable at 1.

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  • Stupid bash it up play after Dan picks up from the back of the scrum eventually leads to the inevitable knock. Pumas defensive scrum on their 5m line.

  • Comment 81, posted at 07.09.18 19:33:26 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Pumas clear to the 22m

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  • Louw knocks with Fassi open next to him. Pumas scrum between Pumas tryline and their 22m

  • Comment 83, posted at 07.09.18 19:36:07 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Great chip over our backline, which the Pumas regather and kick into our 22m. We kick ourselves out of trouble and luckily the Pumas 10 then kicks it out on the full.

  • Comment 84, posted at 07.09.18 19:38:13 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Bosch making damn sure he never wears the green and gold again

  • Comment 85, posted at 07.09.18 19:40:19 by jdolivier Reply

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  • We win the lineout, then knock in the backline again. Advantage over after Pumas kick it away then nice break by Andrews and Fassi finds Bosch, who passes to absolutely fucking nobody.

  • Comment 86, posted at 07.09.18 19:40:33 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Louw needs some superglue tonight

  • Comment 87, posted at 07.09.18 19:42:10 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Some running and kicking and running ends with Louw with yet another knock and penalty conceded for holding on during advantage played

  • Comment 88, posted at 07.09.18 19:43:12 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Marius louw having a shocker

  • Comment 89, posted at 07.09.18 19:43:48 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Pumas win a penalty from the lineout maul, take a quick tap with beautiful chip and regather then a few phases and go over in the left corner.

  • Comment 90, posted at 07.09.18 19:45:07 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Sharks 7 – 5 Pumas (38 min)

  • Comment 91, posted at 07.09.18 19:46:00 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Ref is really doing well to keep the game flowing

  • Comment 92, posted at 07.09.18 19:46:42 by jdolivier Reply

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  • 12-7 Pumas deservedly lead

  • Comment 93, posted at 07.09.18 19:47:46 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Sharks need to catch a serious wakeup. This is not a Varsity Cup team

  • Comment 94, posted at 07.09.18 19:48:58 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Wow how fucking shit can rdp make this team. 2 years and Jack shit to show for it except for the decrease in skills

  • Comment 95, posted at 07.09.18 19:49:20 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Sharks with another typical one-off bash it up play,, which leads to a turnover and kick into our 22 poorly controlled by van Wyk and possession regained by the Pumas, who then score.

  • Comment 96, posted at 07.09.18 19:49:25 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 95) : Diabolical. The 10 people at KP must be shocked.

  • Comment 97, posted at 07.09.18 19:50:54 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Do these guys even do skills training?

  • Comment 98, posted at 07.09.18 19:51:54 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 97) : Well 5 were fooled in to buying season tickets so they have to go back

  • Comment 99, posted at 07.09.18 19:53:27 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 97) : I’m waiting for someone to quote useless SR stats on turnovers and points kicked in a game where we can’t even master the pumas or previous game where we couldn’t even outclass a depleted Cheetahs.

  • Comment 100, posted at 07.09.18 19:53:45 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 98) : I doubt it. They can mos already play rugby :roll:

  • Comment 101, posted at 07.09.18 19:53:53 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 101) : Probably interferes with surfing or golf practise

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 100) : Something is seriously wrong in Durban. Teichmann was big mouth when he took over about getting back to basics and the true spirit of Natal rugby. This shit is far removed from anything I grew up watching. If I was a lighty today I would probably not have been a Sharks fan.

  • Comment 103, posted at 07.09.18 19:58:48 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 102) : They probably suck at that as well

  • Comment 104, posted at 07.09.18 19:59:58 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Our pack is getting taught a lesson

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 105) : Our 22 useless wankers that wishes they were a team is being schooled

  • Comment 106, posted at 07.09.18 20:02:39 by jdolivier Reply

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  • High tackle on RdP shortly after the restart. We win the lineout from the penalty, then lose the ball. Pumas spread it wide, then knock the ball. Our scrum just inside Phmas territory. Our scrum gets smashed.

  • Comment 107, posted at 07.09.18 20:02:41 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Wp lions final, just quit this shit

  • Comment 108, posted at 07.09.18 20:03:19 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Hopefully Akker can get the Sharks going

  • Comment 109, posted at 07.09.18 20:03:44 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Pumas take a quick tap and run into our half, win another penalty and take another quick tap. A few phases and then they knock after some good defence. Akker and Deysel replace Chiliboy and Louw.

  • Comment 110, posted at 07.09.18 20:05:08 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Ward screws up a certain try

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  • That is try number 5 absolutely butchered

  • Comment 112, posted at 07.09.18 20:08:36 by jdolivier Reply

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  • We kick into Pumas half, they kick an up and under, which Bosch just ignores. Pumas get the ball after some sloppy pkay but we manage to win possession. van Wyk gets the ball and steps nicely inside the defense to set up a clear run in for Ward, who knocks it cold.

  • Comment 113, posted at 07.09.18 20:10:43 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Good try after Rob puts Scoemann in a gap who dummies well and Deysel scores

  • Comment 114, posted at 07.09.18 20:10:58 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Sharks 14 – 12 Pumas (53 min)

  • Comment 115, posted at 07.09.18 20:12:23 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Good work from Fassi to score after collecting a cross kick from RDP

  • Comment 116, posted at 07.09.18 20:15:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 21-12

  • Comment 117, posted at 07.09.18 20:16:04 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Looking a lot better now. The bench is making a difference.

  • Comment 118, posted at 07.09.18 20:16:14 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 116) : Difficult to retrieve that, shit fassi is so exciting. Rdp second well weighted kick

  • Comment 119, posted at 07.09.18 20:16:42 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Akker steals the ball, Fassi kicks for Bosch to collect and score

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  • Probably the first thing Bosch hasn’t fucked up all game

  • Comment 121, posted at 07.09.18 20:19:36 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • 28-12 is looking a lot better

  • Comment 122, posted at 07.09.18 20:19:46 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Why wait 55 minutes to start playing??????

  • Comment 123, posted at 07.09.18 20:20:07 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 122) : Scoreboard does flatter our performance up until the 50 min mark

  • Comment 124, posted at 07.09.18 20:20:42 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 123) : Halftime uitkak and subs

  • Comment 125, posted at 07.09.18 20:21:09 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Kak ref! That was the perfect counter ruck!

  • Comment 126, posted at 07.09.18 20:22:40 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Pumas penalty ends up with a scrum 10m from our line after Wright knocks at the base of the ruck.

  • Comment 127, posted at 07.09.18 20:25:32 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Akker needs to sort out his lineout.

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 125) : Well this team should start

  • Comment 129, posted at 07.09.18 20:29:13 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 128) : Only thing lacking in his game

  • Comment 130, posted at 07.09.18 20:29:49 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Pumas knock on attack, we kick the ball into their half, they play a bit then kick for territory. Our lineout but Akker doesn’t throw in straight. Pumas choose the lineout and go for the drive. Good defence and we win the scrum.

  • Comment 131, posted at 07.09.18 20:30:10 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 129) : Agree.

  • Comment 132, posted at 07.09.18 20:30:41 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Hyron andrews is really underrated, the amount of work he gets to is phenomenal

  • Comment 133, posted at 07.09.18 20:32:17 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 128) : It seems like a general Saffa hooker problem.

  • Comment 134, posted at 07.09.18 20:32:47 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • 4 poor lineouts in a row. Why dont the Sharks not go for the front ball

  • Comment 135, posted at 07.09.18 20:34:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Another kak throw by Akker. Luckily we win a breakdown penalty.

  • Comment 136, posted at 07.09.18 20:34:56 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 135) : That would be intelligent play, not our style……..

  • Comment 137, posted at 07.09.18 20:35:33 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 135) : I was a lock and I could throw better than this FFS!

  • Comment 138, posted at 07.09.18 20:35:53 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • I guess that explains why Rassie with with geriatric Britz

  • Comment 139, posted at 07.09.18 20:36:55 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Pumas now making lots of errors

  • Comment 140, posted at 07.09.18 20:37:26 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Ref was good tonight, except the scrums, no clue

  • Comment 141, posted at 07.09.18 20:44:30 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Sharks 28 – 12 Pumas FT

  • Comment 142, posted at 07.09.18 20:44:51 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • Sharks manage another bonus point win after really only turning up to play after 50 minutes

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 141) : And a few dicey breakdown calls

  • Comment 144, posted at 07.09.18 20:45:26 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 141) : It worked to our advantage a couple of times

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 143) : Ja, better teams will put us away before 50 mins are up and then it’ll be a little too late

  • Comment 146, posted at 07.09.18 20:47:06 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 145) : True, another 5 points from an atrocious performance. Hopefully they click eventually

  • Comment 147, posted at 07.09.18 20:47:39 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Was anyone on this site at the stadium tonight? And did the conditions contribute to the performance we saw?

  • Comment 148, posted at 07.09.18 21:11:52 by sudhir Reply

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  • @sudhir (Comment 148) : Yes it rained all the way through the game but still extremely frustrating

  • Comment 149, posted at 07.09.18 21:39:49 by Julesgr8ter Reply
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  • The error rate has reached a point where it’s now a serious growth preventer. Our game can never improve if we always stuck in second gear. There needs to be a clear passing policy.

  • Comment 150, posted at 07.09.18 22:28:12 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @sudhir (Comment 148) : yup atrocious conditions constant wet ball, but third bonus point game in a row
    .Now as far as i am concerned you can’t do better than a bonus point win but if you rely on some of the doom and gloom merchants version of the game above, we were appalling .
    Luckily these opinions count for fuck all and the score board counts for everything.

  • Comment 151, posted at 07.09.18 23:20:34 by The hound Reply
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  • I missed the game but am pleased we managed to pull off a bonus point win considering what is being said on this site. I realise we’re all frustrated with the inconsistencies in the teams performances but we’re still finding ways to win. That for me is a positive but feel our players might be making errors early and finishing strong because they are trying to be too expansive to quickly. How often do we see the all blacks have a close half time score and end 30 points clear of the opposition. Its playing hard and close initially and flashy later.

  • Comment 152, posted at 08.09.18 10:40:47 by Hulk Reply

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  • Fassi has to play sevens rugby after the CC to further improve his skills. This guy has talent :idea:

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  • This is a question for KingCheetah: How does the payment structure work for the Pro14? By losing most of our top players year in and year out, i would think that Pro14 would be the ideal competition for SA teams to earn pounds and thereby retain our top 30-40 players; but this is not the case for the Cheetahs. They are actually weaker this year!

  • Comment 154, posted at 08.09.18 15:08:05 by dawj Reply

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  • For me Jean Luc seems by far the most talented of the trip and most likely to become a major international force. He needs some refinement but that’s all. Rob might have a better life as a good fullback and maybe even a decent center but his speed behind the line as a flyhalfs let’s him down this can be worked on Dan is the guy that’s either not in the right position or has a ton of work to do to become a competitive nr 8. He doesn’t seem to have the full toolkit. It might be better for him to be playing for a team not managed by his dad to get out from the shadow and to stretch himself to become a better player. Back to Rob jnr he has shown he can be consistently good but I think he would benefit from a great mentor and the scare of losing his spot.

  • Comment 155, posted at 08.09.18 15:34:26 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 151) : We go through this sort of thing game in, game out and year in, year out. The fact is that we were bloody attrocious until roughly the 50th minute at home against the same team, which got smashed by WP on their home turf. This after scraping through at home against Cheetahs B, who just got their arses handed to them 47 – 14 by the Lions and beating a Bulls side, which would themselves admit that they were fucking diabolical on the day.

    As we say in “Dutchmanland” our “kak is in die pos”, because this streak won’t last with the poor quality of rugby we’re playing and have been playing most of the past few years.

  • Comment 156, posted at 08.09.18 18:07:25 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 156) : Why do you torture yourself by hanging around on a site dedicated to the team you so obviously hate.
    Are you a masochist or are you just one of the glass half empty people.
    This used to be a place where people who love the Sharks came to share their appreciation .All I can say to you again, 15 points from 3 games is as good as it gets, it doesn’t get beter,save the negative shit for when its deserved.
    I get tired of reading your constant stream of negativity,I actually like this team, that is why I hang around on this site.

  • Comment 157, posted at 08.09.18 23:46:11 by The hound Reply
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  • @dawj (Comment 154) : As far as I know, the revenue is the same as what we got in S18. Big money lies in entry to the the European Cup. Sadly the Cheetahs lost 13 of their regular Pro14 squad, and most of the signings are rookies. We still going to get smashed alot this year.

  • Comment 158, posted at 09.09.18 07:54:39 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 158) : So in effect the Cheetahs joining the Pro14 made it easier for overseas clubs to shop for SA players.

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  • @The hound (Comment 157) : Look, I appreciate your positive attitude. I used to be the same but I no longer rejoice when we perform WAY below par even if we somehow manage bonus points. Maybe I’ve become hardened to promises, which don’t deliver year after year.

    All of us have our own ways of seeing things. Just because mine differs from yours doesn’t make yours right, so I’m sure you’ll appreciate that some of us are indeed glass-half-empty kind of guys or, in other words, realists.

    In a way, all together, that makes everyone on this site a collectively well-balanced team.

    PS: Thank fuck the U19 and U20 teams are rays of light in all aspects of the game, not just results.

  • Comment 160, posted at 09.09.18 17:56:42 by Spirit of Rugby Reply
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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 160) : Problem is, all your bonus points count for nothing if you dish up this substandard game and the first decent team kicks your ass out of playoffs. Lovely false sense if security.

  • Comment 161, posted at 09.09.18 20:30:33 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Spirit of Rugby (Comment 160) : So what you are basically saying is , that you are a seriously pissed off that we haven’t lost yet not even a lost single bonus point ,
    Nobody promised you anything, wonder exactly how long you have been a fan of this team 5 years 6 years,I don’t have a positive attitude,I just have a real fan’s loyalty which means that i appreciate a win ,and am very happy with the extra bonus of a bonus point win.
    I would rather have an ugly win than a pretty loss,.
    Save up your vitriol till we actually loose, or a least till we actually drop a bonus point,then you can have a field day.

  • Comment 162, posted at 10.09.18 01:51:28 by The hound Reply
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  • I wasnt able to watch the game live but i know weather wasnt great so i feared the most before i saw the result as the Pumas do have a very solid pack. The Pumas seemed to run ut of puff after halftime though. From what i saw it was again messy but there were more glimpses of good play. I started to see RDP Jnr take the ball hard to the line before passing/kicking and thats a good sign. The weather didnt help our handling but we seemed to throw less crazy offloads this game. Was impressed by the speed shown by Bosch for his try- havnt seen that from him in a while. So yes definitely positives…BUT the worrying factor is stil the lack of defense and poor handling at times which has plagued the Sharks for many years now

  • Comment 163, posted at 10.09.18 08:00:27 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 159) : If you choose to see it that way, then yes. The alternate view is that they can continue to provide employment to a squad of professional rugby players, and continue to give promising talent exposure at a higher level. Cheetahs will battle now, due to having a raft of new players. Yes they lost 13 players, but that isn’t unusual after a 3 year cycle. Only difference is, that they now lose players t overseas clubs, instead of to Super rugby franchises.

  • Comment 164, posted at 10.09.18 08:04:30 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 164) : When do you feel that the Cheetahs are going to be able to be active in actually recruiting top level players? At the moment the CC team is a bit of write off and so it should be…focus should be on Pro14 team…but just seems the quality isnt there, there is no lack of effort though.

  • Comment 165, posted at 10.09.18 08:10:47 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 165) : It really is exactly the situation that we faced in Super rugby. To be able to match the big guns, the Cheetahs need the money to be able to contract a squad of 50 players, of which at least 30 should be almost test quality players. They don’t have that money, so they contract promising young players, and groom them. That will only change, if they can qualify for Eurio Cup. Once that is in place, they might well throw the bank at quality players. A gamble for sure.

  • Comment 166, posted at 10.09.18 12:24:53 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 166) : To be fair i dont think any SA franchise is able to contract 30 test quality players…at most they get 10 if they lucky and even then quality is questionable. I just feel that is Cheetahs and and Kings arent able to attract proven players at that level then they actually doing more harm than good

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 29) : We got rid or April and Ben 10 so we pretty much only have Du Preez which I am pretty sure was by design.

  • Comment 168, posted at 10.09.18 12:43:40 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 168) : Our current centres are playing well but id still like to see Bosch at 10 and DuPreez at 12 sometime.

  • Comment 169, posted at 10.09.18 12:51:12 by SheldonK Reply

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  • We should consider sending Marius Louw to Japan to learn under Carlos. He is really strong and breaks the line often, but he needs some work on his handling and also better awareness so the line breaks don’t go to waste.

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 170) : Last i heard Carlos was joining Plum at the Canes next year

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 169) : Might not be a bad idea and the Currie cup is the place to try things out. I dont think Jnr’s defense is very good but I could be wrong.

  • Comment 172, posted at 10.09.18 15:21:00 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 171) : Pity. Our own skills coach does not seem to get much improvement out of the players

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 172) : The “easy” part of the Currie Cup is over. The next two games after the bye will be against the Lions at home and WP away. I doubt that Rob Sr will experiment much.

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 173) : Im convinced our skills coach is not working on rugby skills…maybe its social skills or something?

  • Comment 175, posted at 10.09.18 16:08:03 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 172) : @Bokhoring (Comment 174) : With CC so short i also cant see much rotation unless due to injury

  • Comment 176, posted at 10.09.18 16:09:42 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 167) : True story. The Cheetahs are still a good 20 million short of what the Super Rugby sides spend on player contracts. The whole point of the Pro14 being weak, is dubious. The NZ sides apart, I see few Super rugby sides beating full strength Munster/Ulster/Glasgow and Scarlett teams. Most of those have on average 10 test players in their starting teams.

  • Comment 177, posted at 10.09.18 16:24:49 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 175) : It also depends how much time the head coach allows for the skills coach during official training hours, and how much time the players are willing to put in with the skills coach after official training hours

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 169) : I’d like to see Rob jnr at full trot first. I also think he could be good at 12 or 15 I just don’t know if he has the pace?

  • Comment 179, posted at 10.09.18 17:24:32 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 179) : Especially if he’s the kind of center who can pull quick clever little tactical kicks.

  • Comment 180, posted at 10.09.18 18:04:14 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I get that we are into the business end and that there isn’t much time to experiment if you want to win the thing but winning the Currie Cup isn’t that important anymore and with our pack I don’t see it happening. I would rather see us really use the CC to work on the team and try things with an eye on next years Super Rugby campaign. We are at the end of the three year cycle and with the WC coming we are going to lose a lot of players after so we have next year to really have a crack and then start over.

  • Comment 181, posted at 11.09.18 08:47:42 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 181) : Couldn’t agree more, looking at the bigger picture Sharks have a glut of excellent 12s and 13s Andre,Am,Ward ,Louw,Deysel, and very few 10′s,so why the fuck would we want to add the only decent 10 we have to that mix
    .As it is we are going to loose at least two of those centres because we an’t accommodate them all.

  • Comment 182, posted at 11.09.18 09:17:22 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 182) : I have just read that Deysel is off to france. You called it 100%.

  • Comment 183, posted at 11.09.18 14:52:49 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 181) : My idea is not a perm for Rob. Just maybe a way off rounding off or adding some tricks to his bag. I think it would be great to have a sniper like Matt giteau with the size of Rob playing 10. Else I would rather have him as 15 on alternative position. Big strong fb.

  • Comment 184, posted at 11.09.18 14:53:30 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 182) : For the purpose of boosting RDP Jnr chances of playing for the Boks. If he can show he is capable at 10 and 12 it will definitely boos this chances. Only playing 10 i cant see him getting another look in barring injuries.

  • Comment 185, posted at 12.09.18 08:26:26 by SheldonK Reply

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  • I would love to see a second half setup like this in our backline:
    9. Wright 10. Bosch 11. Nkosi 12. DuPreez 13. Esterhuizen 14. Am 15. Van Wyk/Fassi/Winnaar.
    I think it would bring something very different to the table and for opposition to have to deal with.

  • Comment 186, posted at 12.09.18 08:38:03 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 186) : Don’t you think Andre will struggle to defend at 13 – he is a bit slow off the mark.

  • Comment 187, posted at 12.09.18 08:53:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 187) : I really dont hey, defending in that channel i more about understanding and communication than anything. I also think it will make him a better defender having to play their occassionally. And take the reverse- the opposition 13 having to defend Esterhuizen…not so easy i think

  • Comment 188, posted at 12.09.18 09:05:02 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 188) : The move seems to have worked for Frans Steyn (and physically they are similar players). So it could be worth a try

  • Comment 189, posted at 12.09.18 09:27:09 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 189) : Yeh similar thinking whereby Esterhuizen runs is normal hard line and if he beats or even half beats the defender and can offload to a Nkosi/Am/Fassi coming through that could prove very tough to stop

  • Comment 190, posted at 12.09.18 09:31:07 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 187) : @SheldonK (Comment 188) : well I’m sure he’s faster than Bastareaud who’s playing international rugby at 13!!!

  • Comment 191, posted at 12.09.18 23:28:37 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 191) : Is big Andre injured? Not even on the bench this weekend

  • Comment 192, posted at 13.09.18 07:39:16 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 192) : Nope just overloooked

  • Comment 193, posted at 13.09.18 07:49:42 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 193) : Sharks can’t even crack more than one player starting and one on the bench. At least he won’t be associated with what is likely to be another demoralizing loss…if we’re looking for positives.

  • Comment 194, posted at 13.09.18 07:54:51 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 193) : Then let him come home and play with his team. His biceps are big enough, no need to carry tackle bags for 4 weeks

  • Comment 195, posted at 13.09.18 08:00:37 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 195) : I can understand them needing to have cover there. When you 2nd/thurs choice it is a bit crappy just being there on tour.

  • Comment 196, posted at 13.09.18 08:09:44 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 194) : De Allende didnt do too much wrong last week. With the way the Boks are using the 12 as just a battering ram im not too worried bout Esterhuizen not playing as it possibly means him not being too sore and fatigued when it comes to super rugby. Although i can see him playing a bit on overseas tour…just a hunch that DeAllende will pick up an injury

  • Comment 197, posted at 13.09.18 08:11:39 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 195) : will he come home or will he head to Japan?

  • Comment 198, posted at 13.09.18 08:12:16 by HeinF Reply

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  • Im really struggling to see the plan Rassie has for guys like Papier, Willemse, Van Staden. Why select them if you not going to play them at all even off the bench? He says he is building depth but thats just talk. Like every Bok coach before him as soon as the losses comes then what he says and what he does are 2 very different things. The last 2 games he has said the performances were embarrassing and unacceptable…and yet he chooses majority of the same personnel and employs the same incredibly predictable game plan? Even watching that NZ Breakdown show they are confused about what Rassie is doing as they say surely he is a more creative coach than this?

  • Comment 199, posted at 13.09.18 08:20:16 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @HeinF (Comment 198) : Your guess is as good as mine

  • Comment 200, posted at 13.09.18 08:39:16 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 192) : Just Erasmus [email protected]#%ing with another young players head.

  • Comment 201, posted at 13.09.18 09:42:35 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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