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Flouw at 8 against the All Blacks


Written by Henk Terblanche (Bokhoring)

Posted in :The Rugby Championship on 4 Oct 2018 at 13:40

Andre Esterhuyzen drops out of the match day squad to make place for De Allende. Francois Louw comes in at 8 with Notshe moving down on the bench. Beast and Kitshoff swap places.

15 Willie le Roux, 14 Cheslin Kolbe, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Aphiwe Dyantyi, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Francois Louw, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siya Kolisi (c), 5 Franco Mostert, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Malcolm Marx, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Subs: 16 Bongi Mbonambi, 17 Beast Mtawarira, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 RG Snyman, 20 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 21 Embrose Papier, 22 Elton Jantjies, 23 Damian Willemse.



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  • Personally i would have gone with 12. Esterhuizen 13. DeAllende 14. Kriel. ur wings who cannot defend and rush infield are going to be targeted. Would have also left Notshe at 8 as he is quicker than Read…Louw has same skillset as Read just Read a lot better at it.

  • Comment 1, posted at 04.10.18 13:44:11 by SheldonK Reply
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  • When I see De Allende’s name on the team sheet, my heart sinks, without fail. I just don’t get it. I think Springbok centres going to struggle containing Goodhue and (?) SBW. Is Beast there only to ensure that all SR provinces are represented? Rassie needn’t have bothered.

  • Comment 2, posted at 04.10.18 14:06:19 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • Interesting to note the make up of the squad ITO teams represented…

    WP 9
    Sharks 1
    Lions 4
    Cheetahs 0
    Bulls 4
    Overseas 5
    A bit lopsided IMHO

  • Comment 3, posted at 04.10.18 15:32:40 by Karl Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 3) : Kings dont even get a mention :mrgreen:

  • Comment 4, posted at 04.10.18 15:35:24 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Thank goodness de Allende is back.

  • Comment 5, posted at 04.10.18 15:47:22 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 3) : Too many Bulls? ;-)

  • Comment 6, posted at 04.10.18 15:48:27 by McLovin Reply

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  • Where do people get this idea that all provinces should be represented in the Bok team? Who gives a shit? I couldn’t care less if all 23 play for Pofadder’s 3rd team. They just beat the All Blacks in NZ. :roll:

  • Comment 7, posted at 04.10.18 16:15:22 by McLovin Reply

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  • Boks by 20.

  • Comment 8, posted at 04.10.18 16:17:33 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 7) : Don’t you lot claim Pofadder anyway? Seeing that you have already stolen Stellenbosch from Boland

  • Comment 9, posted at 04.10.18 18:32:36 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 7) : I don’t disagree but you’d surely normally expect that level of dominance to be reflected in a province’s past performance? I actually like most the WP players picked so don’t really have an answer

  • Comment 10, posted at 04.10.18 19:37:45 by JR Reply

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  • I’m surprised Nkosi doesn’t get a look in. Kolbe has played well, but I would start Nkosi and Dyantyi.

    Esterhuizen deserves a chance, but I get Rassie wanting to go with the more experienced option.

    Louw is an interesting call at 8, but then again, he’s got more experience than Notshe.

  • Comment 11, posted at 04.10.18 20:18:24 by StevieS Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 9) : Think we stole the whole Boland when it comes to rugby. Schools, universities, etc.

  • Comment 12, posted at 05.10.18 07:15:16 by McLovin Reply

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  • @JR (Comment 10) : You are probably right.

    But with provincialism running as deep as it does in SA I can understand it must bother some of the lesser evolved amongst us. :twisted: :mrgreen:

    No easy answer to explain it of course. But don’t think it’s got anything to do with provincial bias simply for the sake of it.

  • Comment 13, posted at 05.10.18 07:23:37 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 3) : Despite the large number of WP players in the team, this is the best available. If you don’t agree, offer alternatives. AE hasn’t really done anything to oust DDA as the incumbent. JL is injured, and Nkosi has just returned from injury. Continuity and experience important in such an epic clash.

  • Comment 14, posted at 05.10.18 08:17:58 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • Ellendig and Kriel will have their hands full stopping Goodhue. He is still going to become of the Kiwi all-time greats. Just seem to make the right decisions all the time.

  • Comment 15, posted at 05.10.18 08:42:12 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 14) : Much as I hate to admit it, on present from JLDP should not start ahead of PSDT

  • Comment 16, posted at 05.10.18 11:06:25 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 14) : Not sure why I need to offer alternatives? All I said was that it seems a bit lopsided based on SR form. I’m not a Springbok supporter, so I couldn’t really be bothered who gets picked. It was an observation

  • Comment 17, posted at 05.10.18 12:00:54 by Karl Reply

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  • De Allende and Louw are to Erasmus,what Morne Steyn and Spies were to Meyer,all four to the detriment of the National team and any attempt to unite the nation behind the team.Louw is two years over the hill and deAllende just a dumb choice.

  • Comment 18, posted at 05.10.18 12:56:12 by The hound Reply
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  • What is Rassie’s objective for tomorrow’s game? Is it to emulate PDivy as the only one to beat the All Blacks and improve his win ratio or to prepare the young inexperienced players for the world cup as there is nothing to win but pride? That being said, why not give the fringe players game time against NZ. Kobe at 15, second choice 9, Esterhuizen Mapoe Akker Willemse and so on. Who is the 2nd choice half backs? Embrose and Willemse are only there in my opinion to fill Rassie’s quota of players of colour. I am not saying that they don’t deserve to be there. Having them sit on the bench the entire game or until the last 3 minutes is what I am questioning. Also look at Rassie’s team selections. What is going to happen when the first choice player in key positions gets injured.

  • Comment 19, posted at 05.10.18 14:03:49 by sudhir Reply

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  • Only 1 Shark in the entire match day 23. Is this a reflection of the current state of Sharks rugby? Our coaching and player development?

  • Comment 20, posted at 05.10.18 16:17:43 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 16) : He only plays for his dad. Has not had 2 minutes of good rugby in the green and gold. PSDT plays for his country.

  • Comment 21, posted at 05.10.18 16:18:59 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @sudhir (Comment 19) : A friend of mine seems to have summed it up quite nicely. It looks as though Rassie has been given a certain target for quota players for the season, as opposed to per game targets. So it looks like he’s picking his “best” players for certain tests and then the “quota” players for the so called easier games…

  • Comment 22, posted at 05.10.18 17:31:00 by Karl Reply

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  • Is this really such an important game? I don’t see it. What’s to gain, I say he can use it to run whatever he wants as an experiment. You won’t get this many opportunities to play around against the AB’s without any real stakes.

  • Comment 23, posted at 05.10.18 19:24:14 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 21) : then why was JLDP voted Springbok players player of the year 2017 by his Bok team mates in 2017, PSDT proved in his shabby retreat from Natal that he is only loyal to his bank balance so in both ways your comment is a pile of steaming shite.

  • Comment 24, posted at 05.10.18 21:49:25 by The hound Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 20) : Another shit comment last time I looked Sharks won three games in Aust/ nz tour and beat another two N.Z teams at home ,made the playoffs while the Stormers not only lost every single overseas game but every local away game sell and ended up the lowest ranked S.A team in Super rugby so what actually is your point.

  • Comment 25, posted at 05.10.18 21:55:28 by The hound Reply
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  • @sudhir (Comment 19) : @Karl (Comment 22) : guys let’s stick to site rules and stay away from those subjects.

  • Comment 26, posted at 06.10.18 01:56:49 by JD Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 24) : If ever there’s a perfect example of a comment being a pile of steaming shit it’s yours right there.

    Players’ player of the year? Wow, hold the press. That’s like winning miss congeniality at a beauty contest. :roll:

    Also are you sure it was 2017? JLDP was definitely players’ player of the year in 2016. Want to guess who was the actual player of the year in 2016? Yes that’s right, a certain Mr Pieter-Steph du Toit. :lol: :lol:

    Furthermore, it’s 2018, rugby is a professional sport, players play for money. But if you want to go down that ‘loyalty’ bullshit route then let’s.

    PSDT was born in Cape Town and educated in Malmesbury. His grandad also play for Province. Simply returned to his roots. Such a loyal fella.

  • Comment 27, posted at 06.10.18 07:56:35 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 27) : Pieter Steph du Toit is a great player but unfortunately (in my view) that is where the greatness ends.

  • Comment 28, posted at 06.10.18 09:29:19 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 21) : That is an unfair comparison. JLDP is still being introduced to the Bok team mostly on the bench.

    PSDT has been part of the Bok setup since 2013 and it is only now that most fans really rate him as a Bok. I still recall how he was pilloried in 2016 after Ben Youngs dummied him twice and England scored from both.

  • Comment 29, posted at 06.10.18 10:34:46 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 27) ”: Players’ player of the year? Wow, hold the press. That’s like winning miss congeniality at a beauty contest. :roll:
    Just so obvious that you played all your greatest games on your Playstation, and never ever once even got your pants as dirty as Naas Botha,that is the only award worth anything.,you dick.

  • Comment 30, posted at 06.10.18 11:56:26 by The hound Reply
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  • I am so keen for the game today!!! I haven’t felt this excited about the Boks in years. For the first time in years I feel we have an even chance of beating the All Blacks. They are actually saying on http://www.stuff.co.nz that it doesn’t matter if the All Blacks win or lose, but how they play. The Boks need to back up the performances in the last 2 games. Keep it simple, minimise turnovers and errors and stick to our structures. Go Bokke!!!

  • Comment 31, posted at 06.10.18 14:05:22 by StevieS Reply
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  • So only 2 provinces represented in the starting 15 today nice.

  • Comment 32, posted at 06.10.18 14:22:17 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 32) : You might want to do a recount. :smile:

  • Comment 33, posted at 06.10.18 14:54:20 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 28) :

    I remember the pathetic thread back when he was injured.
    “Get well Pieter-Steph. ….We love you Pieter-Steph……”
    Then he said he love you back but it was not so.

    Hell hath no fury like a lover scorned, they say.

  • Comment 34, posted at 06.10.18 16:27:01 by fyndraai Reply
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  • Surely we can do without the pre-match shaking of hands with ‘dignitaries’. :roll:

  • Comment 35, posted at 06.10.18 17:05:37 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 35) : Just opening channels for “tendors”

  • Comment 36, posted at 06.10.18 17:30:10 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Boks dominating play for 20 minutes but only 6-3 to show for it

  • Comment 37, posted at 06.10.18 17:42:26 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • All blacks really losing their tempers when the calls don’t go their way. Very spirited effort from the bokke.

  • Comment 38, posted at 06.10.18 17:46:30 by jdolivier Reply

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  • 30 minutes and still no try for anyone

  • Comment 39, posted at 06.10.18 17:47:50 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 6 all.

  • Comment 40, posted at 06.10.18 17:56:16 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Good defense from All Blacks

  • Comment 41, posted at 06.10.18 17:59:23 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Real arm wrestle. When last did ABs not score a single try in the first half

  • Comment 42, posted at 06.10.18 18:01:06 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Kriel does well to score a beauty

  • Comment 43, posted at 06.10.18 18:17:02 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 13-6 Boks lead

  • Comment 44, posted at 06.10.18 18:18:16 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Willie putting his body on the line today

  • Comment 45, posted at 06.10.18 18:21:35 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 16-6 after long range penalry from Pollard

  • Comment 46, posted at 06.10.18 18:23:09 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Good attack from the Boks but Faf passes to the cameraman just before the tryline

  • Comment 47, posted at 06.10.18 18:25:58 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Ellendig scores after great offload from Kolisi

  • Comment 48, posted at 06.10.18 18:27:21 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 23-6 Boks

  • Comment 49, posted at 06.10.18 18:27:51 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 48) : WP jou lekker ding. WP beating the all blacks today….

  • Comment 50, posted at 06.10.18 18:28:22 by coolfusion Reply

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  • How well has this game flowed, take your hat off Angus Gardner, great reffing performance

  • Comment 51, posted at 06.10.18 18:28:52 by jdolivier Reply

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  • And the All Blacks strike back via Aron Smith

  • Comment 52, posted at 06.10.18 18:29:10 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 51) : He has been good today

  • Comment 53, posted at 06.10.18 18:30:00 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 23-13. WP needs to keep it together now

  • Comment 54, posted at 06.10.18 18:30:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Good grubber and chase by invitational player Diyanti gets the Boks a 5m scrum

  • Comment 55, posted at 06.10.18 18:32:27 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Luck with the Boks today. TMO awards try to Kolbe. 30-13

  • Comment 56, posted at 06.10.18 18:37:06 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Invitational player Pollard has been kicking well today

  • Comment 57, posted at 06.10.18 18:38:13 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 57) : Elton who?

  • Comment 58, posted at 06.10.18 18:39:39 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Ioane scores in the corner. 30-18

  • Comment 59, posted at 06.10.18 18:40:17 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Snyman on now.

  • Comment 60, posted at 06.10.18 18:41:29 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Willemse on for Willie. Willie has been great today

  • Comment 61, posted at 06.10.18 18:43:44 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 61) : Front three also been very solid.

  • Comment 62, posted at 06.10.18 18:44:31 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Ref actually calls an AB forward pass for a change

  • Comment 63, posted at 06.10.18 18:45:18 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Boks have protected the ball well at rucks today

  • Comment 64, posted at 06.10.18 18:46:24 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 51) : Where’s JD and what have you done with him? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 65, posted at 06.10.18 18:46:51 by McLovin Reply

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  • Notshe on now. Savea has made a difference since he came on

  • Comment 66, posted at 06.10.18 18:49:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 66) : We have to beware that bench is strong. Come on WP….let’s keep it together.

  • Comment 67, posted at 06.10.18 18:50:31 by coolfusion Reply

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  • All Blacks finding some rythm now

  • Comment 68, posted at 06.10.18 18:50:57 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Diyanti still chasing every kick. Just need to hold on.

  • Comment 69, posted at 06.10.18 18:52:32 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • History being made. Rassie allows Papier some game time

  • Comment 70, posted at 06.10.18 18:53:10 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • I would have liked to see what form Koch is in

  • Comment 71, posted at 06.10.18 18:58:29 by coolfusion Reply

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  • So close.

  • Comment 72, posted at 06.10.18 19:00:56 by McLovin Reply

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  • WP throws the game away at the end.

  • Comment 73, posted at 06.10.18 19:01:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Well done Boks.

    Not to be though.

  • Comment 74, posted at 06.10.18 19:01:48 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 72) : Sad that we let go of the reins. Hopefully we can last, even better if we can score.

  • Comment 75, posted at 06.10.18 19:02:12 by coolfusion Reply

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  • All Blacks weathered the storm and then struck in the last 8 minutes. Quality team

  • Comment 76, posted at 06.10.18 19:02:36 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • All Blacks showing why they’re undisputed no.1 in the world.

  • Comment 77, posted at 06.10.18 19:03:26 by McLovin Reply

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  • Good game from WP – even allowing a couple of the invitational players to shine

  • Comment 78, posted at 06.10.18 19:03:54 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 78) : Kind of threw it away at the end. Still not an 80 minute team. But a lot better than under AC. Very disciplined fir the first 50 I must say.

  • Comment 79, posted at 06.10.18 19:07:41 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 79) : At 23-6 I reckon the Boks thought they’d done enough. But at least no ‘skande’. Still sucks donkey balls.

  • Comment 80, posted at 06.10.18 19:09:58 by McLovin Reply

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  • Rassie weakened the pivots dramatically with replacements. Bad decision from the coach and poor selection in the first place.

  • Comment 81, posted at 06.10.18 19:10:33 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 79) : Some good signs here. Actually seeing players make progress under Rassie, e.g. Faf’s kicks were perfect today. His kicking game up to today has been average

  • Comment 82, posted at 06.10.18 19:11:22 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 80) : And isn’t that true to form of SA rugby?

  • Comment 83, posted at 06.10.18 19:11:29 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 83) : True. Hopefully this lot learns the lesson.

  • Comment 84, posted at 06.10.18 19:12:10 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 82) : Yes I agree. His bench really not up to it. But the regulars held up very well on 50 minutes. That really is a positive considering….

  • Comment 85, posted at 06.10.18 19:12:59 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 81) : Faf and Willie off and you loose the brains trust of the team

  • Comment 86, posted at 06.10.18 19:13:44 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 86) : Yup but replacing both pivots makes no sense unless you’re 30 up. Why lose the flow so completely. You’re basically saying that we don’t want to keep the flow in order to score we just want to defend a score…

  • Comment 87, posted at 06.10.18 19:15:53 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 85) : That is our weakness. The All Black bench actually strengthens the team at the end

  • Comment 88, posted at 06.10.18 19:16:04 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Great effort. Yes, we lost cohesion with the subs, but we have to give them experience against the best. Nice to see us actually dominating for large portions of the game.

    I’m gutted with the loss, but it’s a huge improvement when we lose by only 2 against the All Blacks and are disappointed because we expect to win.

    Look back a year to 57-0 and let’s keep perspective.

  • Comment 89, posted at 06.10.18 19:19:25 by StevieS Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 89) : Well said

  • Comment 90, posted at 06.10.18 19:21:42 by McLovin Reply

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  • @StevieS (Comment 89) : Not convinced about some of our subs in the first place. But we do need the bench to get to a level where they up the momentum. Otherwise we will have the same disappointment next year

  • Comment 91, posted at 06.10.18 19:29:32 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 88) : exactly what I said even during the English tour. The modern game requires 16-23 to all b impact players-we pretty much only have RG as an impact player! By having 3 or 4 players on the bench who r not up to scratch, or not necessarily going to make a contribution, we immediately put ourselves at a disadvantage.
    Having said that, the starting line up today is a good base to build on.

  • Comment 92, posted at 06.10.18 19:33:52 by Julesgr8ter Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 91) : Ja look I don’t think subbing faf with less than 10 minutes was the best move either. Maybe if you are 100% sure your sub can retain or increase intensity but not an unproven player. It seems like the kind of risk you just don’t take.

  • Comment 93, posted at 06.10.18 19:34:37 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 73) : typical WP choke

  • Comment 94, posted at 07.10.18 09:23:23 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • Difference between the NZ bench and ours is that every player started a game and had more than 3 minutes off the bench during the RC. We did not utilize our subs or squad to good effect. Question still remains who are the back up 15 and 9 ?

  • Comment 95, posted at 07.10.18 09:32:36 by sudhir Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 94) : Like Currie Cup final 2017? Or last week even? ;-) :mrgreen:

  • Comment 96, posted at 07.10.18 10:47:19 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 94) : Well dude I’m somewhat weary of wp if they get these okes back especially if they play like yesterday.

  • Comment 97, posted at 07.10.18 12:53:07 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 97) : Wary even…

  • Comment 98, posted at 07.10.18 12:53:32 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 98) : They won’t even need these guys. Their second stringers are already way better than the other teams in the Currie Cup

  • Comment 99, posted at 07.10.18 12:58:20 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Win or lose I must say I’m a lot happier with the Rassie brand of play as opposed to what we had. I loved the urgency increased discipline. Even a youngster like dyantyi became a threat to the seasoned AB players you could see we had them out of their comfort zone fir a while there.

  • Comment 100, posted at 07.10.18 12:59:52 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I still think NZ will win the cup next year, but at least the Boks will not embarrass us.

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 101) : Yes much improved but as you say NZ still has the composure and the depth which rounds them off better than us.

  • Comment 102, posted at 07.10.18 13:01:08 by coolfusion Reply

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  • The great mystery will off course be how Fleck “the Alchemist” can manage to again transform this group of players into cow dung next year.

  • Comment 103, posted at 07.10.18 13:07:26 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 103) : Is Dobson then not available?

  • Comment 104, posted at 07.10.18 13:34:23 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 96) : That WP CC side are no chockers (Still time though) the super rugby side/Boks have lost more knockout games than any other super rugby franchise.

  • Comment 105, posted at 08.10.18 11:15:50 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 97) : I am weary of WP without them. The reintegration of boks has messed up many good currie cup sides.

  • Comment 106, posted at 08.10.18 11:16:52 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • 2 Errors determined the outcomes. 1. Rassie making all his subs at once 2. The ref incorectly awarding that last penalty when Savea put his hands in after a ruck had formed. Small margins but was a good game

  • Comment 107, posted at 08.10.18 11:59:57 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Watching the Aussies dig themselves out of a canyon in Argentina and the A.B’s push the champagne cork back into the bottle in Pretoria it is quite evident what both these teams had that the Boks lacked,on field leadership.
    Without Whitely or Vermullen the Boks were rudderless,especially apparent in the last try when it only took four pick and goes for Ardie to cross the line.
    Who was marshalling the defence, not Far he was subbed by a player who can’t have played 5 min rugby in the past two months.
    The A.B ‘s rotate two 9 with such regularity that its a seamless transition.If you are going to rely on one 9 to the extent that Erasmus relies on Fat,then the guy that you aren’t like to play but might have to, has to be firsthand foremost a very experienced player, like Ruan Pienaar,
    I’d like to see the same apply to Marx whose work load is massive, imagine when you just have to sub him bringing on Bismark for 10 minutes
    Same with Frans Steyn for Le Roux,not another greenie thrown into the mix like a deer in the headlight against a rampant AB team.

  • Comment 108, posted at 08.10.18 12:00:54 by The hound Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 104) : Fleck is still the Super Rugby coach for the Stormers?

  • Comment 109, posted at 08.10.18 12:06:23 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 109) : Sadly yes. :roll:

  • Comment 110, posted at 08.10.18 12:08:12 by McLovin Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 107) : To be fair to Rassie he didn’t intend it that way. Willie dopped his HIA test and Faf was cramping. But still a balls up I suppose.

    As you said, still a good game. Proud of them.

  • Comment 111, posted at 08.10.18 12:10:53 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 111) : and Malherbe was tired,fuck can you imagine Os du Randt or ,Balie Swart admitting to that.

  • Comment 112, posted at 08.10.18 12:17:33 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 112) : Difficult one that. Reckon it happens a lot more than we realise. But probably should have kept that to themselves.

  • Comment 113, posted at 08.10.18 12:32:33 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 109) : Surely they won’t miss this trick? No union could be that asleep….?

  • Comment 114, posted at 08.10.18 15:22:02 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 114) : Then cut him a deal at the sharks.

  • Comment 115, posted at 08.10.18 15:22:32 by coolfusion Reply

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