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Coaching Team for 2019


Written by Henk Terblanche (Bokhoring)

Posted in :Sharks on 30 Nov 2018 at 15:10

The coaching team for 2019 has been announced. Dick Muir appointed as consultant will move on, and David Williams (not the comedian and writer) will join the team as attack coach.

Sharks statement:

“After a short break, the Cell C Sharks have commenced their pre-season training last Monday, in preparation for the 2019 season.

To this end, the Cell C Sharks would like to announce our 2019 Vodacom Super Rugby coaching team, which will be led by our Head Coach Robert du Preez. He will be ably assisted by Ricardo Loubscher (backline), Jaco Pienaar (forwards), Braam van Straaten (defence) as well as the new addition to our coaching staff, David Williams, who will be responsible for our attack.

David has a good coaching track record having coached at Kobe Steelers, London Irish and Bath abroad. Locally he’s had stints with the Southern Kings and was their attack coach in their stellar year in 2016, which saw them cause many upsets that year in Vodacom Super Rugby and most recently was part of the Cheetahs coaching team in the Pro14.”

Williams’s CV:

David is a young and innovative backs/attack coach with a formidable reputation. He is widely considered one of the leading young backs/attack coaches in world rugby.

David has a British passport and cut his teeth with the Academies of London Irish and then Bath where he earned rave reviews.

He then was head hunted by Gary Gold (with whom he worked at Bath) to be part of his coaching team at Kobelco Steelers in Japan, before returning to his native SA to work with the Kings in Super Rugby. His impressive work there led to him being recruited by the Cheetahs for the 2017-2018 season and has been instrumental in the Cheetahs impressive debut in the PRO14.

 

Qualifications

BSc / Honours – Sports & Exercise Development
Honours Degree (2:1)
Final Year Thesis:
Sport in South Africa – From Segregation to Integration

Coaching Awards

England RFU – Coaching Award(Level 4) in progress
England RFU – Coaching Award (Level 3)
Natal Rugby Union – Coaching Award (Level 2)
Natal Rugby Union – Coaching Award (Level 1)
England RFU – Coaching Award (Level 1)
England Rugby – Advanced Coaching Seminar 2009/10/11/12

 

 



145 Comments

  • What are the odds for Dick Muir to be Bulls coach?

  • Comment 1, posted at 30.11.18 18:18:31 by Julesgr8ter Reply
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  • @Julesgr8ter (Comment 1) : could just happen!

  • Comment 2, posted at 30.11.18 19:19:52 by JD Reply
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  • Well both the Kings and Cheetahs looked good on attack when he was there now let’s see if he can do the same at the Sharks!

  • Comment 3, posted at 30.11.18 19:21:42 by JD Reply
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  • Anyone know why Muir was not taken on as a full time coach? Was it his decision or did sharks show him the door?

  • Comment 4, posted at 01.12.18 22:33:35 by dawj Reply

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  • @dawj (Comment 4) : Apparently he had a falling our with Rob du Preez sr. Muir wanter Bosch to play at 10, Rob insisted on Rob jr.

  • Comment 5, posted at 03.12.18 07:15:03 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 5) : I have a feeling thats just the media trying to blwo things up. I have no doubt Muir leaving is a result of a disagreement in terms of the way forward but i doubt that the only reason was who to play at 10.

  • Comment 6, posted at 03.12.18 08:24:21 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @dawj (Comment 4) : @Culling Song (Comment 5) : @SheldonK (Comment 6) : for sure Sheldon they’re trying to blow it up into Bosch vs RdP jnr because that’s what will sell newspapers and get internet hits! I knew from the start that it will not be a long term thing as both RdP snr and Muir have strong personalities and would want to do things their own way. Also think that’s why the Sharks only appointed Muir on a short term contract to see if it will work and if it did not work then there is no big contract pay out!

  • Comment 7, posted at 03.12.18 09:04:18 by JD Reply
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  • I see in the Rapport that Stephan Lewies has signed for the Lions, Good player to have on your books.

  • Comment 8, posted at 03.12.18 09:52:38 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 8) : Lewies is a top top lock. For me on of the best lineout forwards around. If the lions can keep him injury free it’s a great buy.

  • Comment 9, posted at 03.12.18 10:45:11 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 6) : @JD (Comment 7) : I have no doubt that the Bosch/Du Preez issue is just a part of the picture, but I am led to believe that it was a significant cause of friction.

  • Comment 10, posted at 03.12.18 11:49:41 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Muir was always a great mate of Gary Teichmann ,but he never stays anywhere longer than a season.

  • Comment 11, posted at 03.12.18 12:17:36 by The hound Reply
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  • Does anybody know what length of time Williams’ contract is for – if longer than a year it would seem that Dick was only ever considered as a short term option in any case.

  • Comment 12, posted at 03.12.18 12:20:39 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 6) : Muir might be a great option for our feeder systems.

  • Comment 13, posted at 03.12.18 15:21:26 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 13) : Won’t be surprised if wp is his next stop.

  • Comment 14, posted at 03.12.18 15:22:32 by coolfusion Reply

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  • WP hardly has money to buy toilet paper……and they have Fleckie anyway.

  • Comment 15, posted at 03.12.18 15:44:26 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 15) : So they should buy Papier promote Dobson, hire Muir.

  • Comment 16, posted at 03.12.18 15:55:24 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 15) : You could say they need Muir Papier…..

  • Comment 17, posted at 03.12.18 15:57:51 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 17) : Ha, ha very good. Will help to paper over all the cracks.

  • Comment 18, posted at 03.12.18 22:05:15 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 16) : @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 18) : on paper they always look good!

  • Comment 19, posted at 04.12.18 08:16:02 by JD Reply
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  • Oh, and I was not talking about bribing refs in this @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 15) : post.

  • Comment 20, posted at 04.12.18 08:51:31 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • I guess with our depth at lock I figured would lose Lewies but I figured to a overseas contract, going to be tough seeing him play against us for the lions if that reporting is correct, but they are a good team and he will add value along side guys like Orie, Erasmus

    We still have Botha, Andrew’s, Paul, Gideon, young jj, vosloo

    In the backline we also have serious depth, especially centre’s Andre, Aam, ward, louw

    Good depth at wing

    Flyhalf and fullback could be a issue, fb less though as mvovo, Fassi, winner can step in if Bosch moves to FH or is unavailable

    Will we still have the Namibia center on our books next year? His way too good just play super sport challenge

    Maybe we get muller back from The 7s next year, let him work on his game there, Paul Jordaan went that route

  • Comment 21, posted at 04.12.18 23:29:09 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 21) : We also have Zas for fb or wing he doesn’t get enough game time I think we’re missing a trick here. We could in the second half shift the whole game dynamic by moving bosch to FH Fassi and Nkosi on wings and bring in Zas on FB. What happened to Mapimpi why aren’t we including him in the plans?

  • Comment 22, posted at 05.12.18 07:27:47 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 21) : Deysel has left the Sharks so he wont be around, cant blame him as he never had a look in. I see there are a couple of the younger sharks players involved in the 7s so will be interesting to see what develops from them

  • Comment 23, posted at 05.12.18 08:42:39 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 23) : think Deysel was extremely unlucky as he was set to play a big part at the Sharks then he got injured and during that time Louw used his chance to cement his place as second in line at 12 for the Sharks.

  • Comment 24, posted at 05.12.18 11:49:06 by JD Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 22) : Correct cOmpletely forgot about Mapimpi, strange how he seem to play much better for the boks that us imho

  • Comment 25, posted at 05.12.18 15:55:03 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 25) : We also have v Wyk who in my opinion would make a great fb some tlc on his kicking game but great hands great defense great attack

  • Comment 26, posted at 05.12.18 17:47:53 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 26) : Kobus van wyk could also be a devastating outside center if given more game time, this season we have to do squad rotation if we’re realistic about playoffs.

  • Comment 27, posted at 05.12.18 21:13:42 by jdolivier Reply

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  • And now for something completely different…
    Sorry for being scarce…too busy for my own health and few tough things to help with…
    …but I had a wonderful experience today that I just wanted to share with you guys.
    My son’s High School – Deutsche Schule Hermannsburg- had their prizegiving today and the guest speaker was Tera Mthembu. I had a speech to make too and we sat next to each other. It gave us a chance to I’ve a good chat. All I can say is: what a top man. He has just had his sixth knee op and has another 7 months of gehad to go! He spoke brilliantly, gave good food for thought to young and old alike and is just a humble, well-known, balanced chap. I’m glad I had the chance to meet him, exchange some thoughts and see something of the man behind the player. And I liked what I saw.
    Good luck with the recovery, Tera…

  • Comment 28, posted at 05.12.18 21:31:38 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 28) : a 6th knee op in what a 8 year career (if that), it’s no wonder he is seen by so many as a passenger, he’s literally never been in an injury free spell. One has to be impressed with his mental strength to come back from each op with a positive mind. Best of luck to him during this recovery period.

  • Comment 29, posted at 06.12.18 07:04:49 by Hulk Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 28) : 6 knee ops, thats a few peoples quota for a lifetime. Methinks his knees are telling him something.

    Its always nice to read about people who live their lives in the limelight and also leave an impression because of the inner person they are. Sounds like a top guy.

  • Comment 30, posted at 06.12.18 08:51:59 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 28) : Thanks for sharing. Great to hear stories like this.

  • Comment 31, posted at 06.12.18 09:50:51 by StevieS Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 28) : Thanks for the feedback, at 27 years of age now I feel his still got some rugby in him, though he may not be as athletic as his once was

    Everyone I know who has met him in person relates the same experience, his a true asset to our union and rugby as a whole.

  • Comment 32, posted at 06.12.18 10:53:33 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 24) : yep timing plays a big rule I guess

  • Comment 33, posted at 06.12.18 10:54:51 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • we have excessive depth in the back line imho, likely a few will be loaned out or let go

    Gotta keep costs reasonable, least we end up like WP/Bulls

  • Comment 34, posted at 06.12.18 10:56:15 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 28) : thank for sharing. Awesome person with lots of potential! Huge pity all the injuries stopped him from fully delivering on his rugby potential!

  • Comment 35, posted at 06.12.18 11:26:11 by JD Reply
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  • Great guy is Tera Mtembu but in reality he probably isnt one of our top 6 loosies.
    Should really consider a smaller union to see out his playing days, or even overseas as some guys seem to last quite long there with injuries

  • Comment 36, posted at 06.12.18 12:33:15 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 35) : I will always remember that match in Christchurch when we were down to 13 against the ‘Saders,and he was the only loosie left on the field. He was immense in that match, literally playing like 3 men. 7 more months of rehab is a long time, and 6th knee surgery in 7 years….ouch, but that would explain the inconsistency in his career.. I wonder if he may not have a place at the Kings once he completes rehab, the softer fields up north surely must be easier on his knees?

  • Comment 37, posted at 06.12.18 16:08:51 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 28) : :lol: I see “rehab” was changed to “gehad”… :lol:

  • Comment 38, posted at 06.12.18 20:57:02 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 37) : for sure injuries cost him big time! Really a pity as he was an awesome player when fully fit and injury free!

  • Comment 39, posted at 07.12.18 09:53:38 by JD Reply
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  • Nothing about the Curwin Bosch vs Robert Du Preez saga being the reason Muir left the Sharks, on this sites. Robert Du Preez snr has it easy.

  • Comment 40, posted at 07.12.18 12:25:05 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 40) : It was brought up earlier in a thread (not sure which one) The main reason Dick left is because his contract of 1 year had come to an end.

  • Comment 41, posted at 07.12.18 13:29:10 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 40) : So Ruggaworlds heading for this non story is “Muir leaves Sharks over flyhalf selection”. Really, no mention of his contract having run out and not being renewed.

    Well that article on Ruggaworld got 8 comments which is about as many as any other article has generated this year so I suppose we can forgive them being a bit lax with the reality after all a headline like “Muirs contract at The Sharks comes to an end’ somehow just does not get the juices flowing.

  • Comment 42, posted at 07.12.18 15:52:08 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 42) : So well put, but you are feeding this troll, he never has anything positive to say on this site and is always available to put the boot in when he spots a possible opening tp attack the Sharks and especially the Du Preez family

  • Comment 43, posted at 07.12.18 16:13:58 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 43) : Dan and Rob jr. are looking really good up north now. I’ve watched a few games, and Rob is doing a great job of controlling the game at 10, and Dan is immense at 8. Rob Jr. cops a lot of flak here unfairly, he is one of the best goalkickers in the world, and also has one of the best long passes in the game

  • Comment 44, posted at 07.12.18 16:29:51 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 44) : Have said as much for years honestly if I were those boys I’d take the money and run.Any club in the world will snap them up and here they are going to become punching bags for guys like our friend above.
    Erasmus has blatantly decided that none of them are in his plans, so fuck the Boks route, and go for the money.

  • Comment 45, posted at 07.12.18 16:38:12 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 45) : Dan was capped on the end of year tour last year, but Rob Jr. was really screwed with that ridiculous test against Wales, where Rob was capped as a replacement for a few minutes and just enough time to make a nervous mistake, then dropped for good, but now a capped Bok, that can’t play for another country. Erasmus really screwed Rob Jr. Not to mention that Rob is the closest type for type replacement for Pollard.

  • Comment 46, posted at 07.12.18 16:46:05 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 46) : And Rob is by far the best goalkicker in SA.

  • Comment 47, posted at 07.12.18 16:46:58 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 44) : I havent seen any of their games and was wondering where they are playing Rob, so its at 10.

  • Comment 48, posted at 07.12.18 16:53:45 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 48) : The games I have seen he has played at 10, and is used to control the game. His tactical kicking has been excellent, and he is getting his line going. To be honest, I always felt Rob cops way too much on this site, he is not nearly as bad as some want to make out. He has one of the best long passes around, is calm, good rugby head, great kicker, and big and strong. He is not flashy, but neither is Pollard, I personally feel good when Rob is playing 10, I have faith and confidence in him and would MUCH RATHER SEE HIM AT 10 than Bosch. With Bosch at 10, our loosies have to help defensively in his channel, as does the 12.

  • Comment 49, posted at 07.12.18 17:04:11 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 49) : As far as I am concerned, Bosch has to be at 15 at this point in his career, but we should definitely use him as first receiver from time to time on attack.

  • Comment 50, posted at 07.12.18 17:05:30 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 50) : It must burn Erasmus arse that Rob is establishing a winning partnership with Far de Klerk at Sale

  • Comment 51, posted at 07.12.18 17:22:12 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 51) : I don’t think he cares, he has made his decisions and has convinced himself he is right, he is very closed minded.

  • Comment 52, posted at 07.12.18 17:41:58 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 42) : Dick is a very mature guy in the rugby world having a lot of experience and clash of decisions and personalities under his belt In doubt if such a small thing would make him packup and leave.

  • Comment 53, posted at 07.12.18 18:18:49 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 40) : Do you think there is a story there? Sure Bosch is exciting at times but Rob has proven to be a stable option. They both have merit and I can’t see one beating the others merit an exciting but defensively unreliable option vs a defenseviely stable guy who brings stability. I can’t find a clear winner here.

  • Comment 54, posted at 07.12.18 18:27:06 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I guess there’s no more rugby for us except oros rugby aka sevens…

  • Comment 55, posted at 08.12.18 18:24:17 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 51) : I highly doubt that! Rob has great potential, but in Pollard as a starter and Elton as an impact player, I don’t think Rassie is feeling any pain. :lol:
    For my money I would definately bring Rob into the mix, as he has more potential than EJ as a starter to back up Pillard. I would also bring Both Dan and JL in to back up Vermeulen. Also wouldn’t mind seeing Fassi and Mapimpi in the mix. Nkosi has been great, but we need a similiar player to back him up.

  • Comment 56, posted at 09.12.18 12:49:48 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 52) : No he isn’t, but you are entitled to your opinion. Biased as it maybe.

  • Comment 57, posted at 09.12.18 12:50:35 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 57) : You each have a different perception of the man. I see him as a bit of a wrecking ball.

  • Comment 58, posted at 11.12.18 10:27:50 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Another addition to the Sharks’ coaching set up (although not entirely new) is that of Nick Easter as breakdown coach / specialist. He was with the Sharks for the Currie Cup but as a defence coach if I remember correctly. He must have impressed if he is back.

  • Comment 59, posted at 11.12.18 10:52:27 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 59) : Is he back ?Good news if he is. He was the breakdown coach in CC but his knowledge of different systems etc will be and has already been a big help

  • Comment 60, posted at 11.12.18 13:04:50 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 60) : Was he breakdown coach in CC, I seem to remember some debate about it but thought he was defence coach. But yes I think he must have added value and thus the extension of his contract.

  • Comment 61, posted at 11.12.18 13:35:22 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 61) : I though breakdown but may be wrong. I do like the idea of new consultants like Easter every so often because of the new ideas they bring.

  • Comment 62, posted at 11.12.18 15:53:10 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 58) : Rassie has announced he will not coach the Boks after the RWC, but will remain on as DOR with responsibilities ranging across the entire spectrum of SA rugby teams, 7s, women, juniors, etc. It seems the wrecking ball analogy is accurate, especially since he is not the one that will have to pick up the pieces.

  • Comment 63, posted at 11.12.18 17:06:10 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 63) : If I recall correctly that was his statement from the beginning when he took the Job.

  • Comment 64, posted at 11.12.18 17:47:10 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 64) : However where he will get a replacement could be a problem.

  • Comment 65, posted at 11.12.18 17:48:12 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 65) : Jake might be available since Aussies snubbed him for the Cheika job.

  • Comment 66, posted at 11.12.18 17:56:32 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I see Kerron v Vuuren is training with the Sharks.

  • Comment 67, posted at 11.12.18 22:51:14 by JD Reply
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  • Any bets here that Stick, will be the new coach,Jake White has about as much chance as Steve Hoffmeyer has of being the new leader of the EFF

  • Comment 68, posted at 12.12.18 08:43:26 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 68) : ja can’t see White getting the job but not sure if Stick will get it either. What I do know is it will be interesting to see who does get the job and if he will have the same freedom that the golden boys was afforded!

  • Comment 69, posted at 12.12.18 09:24:08 by JD Reply
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  • Interesting to see Bulls appointed “old man” Pote Human as their new Super rugby coach for 2019.

  • Comment 70, posted at 12.12.18 09:34:28 by JD Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 49) : Not buying the Bosch vs Rob story seems like click bait

    We should be thankful that we should be thankful we have them as options, two very different players with opposing strengths and weaknesses.

    Doubt that his debate resulted in Muir leaving angry, Differences in opinion shouldn’t result in a poor working environment

  • Comment 71, posted at 12.12.18 10:47:22 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • Question is: who starts at FH if “Bosch and Rob are unavailable ?

  • Comment 72, posted at 12.12.18 10:48:23 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 72) : Ben10?

  • Comment 73, posted at 12.12.18 12:00:07 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 68) : Johan Van Graan would be my guess to step in

  • Comment 74, posted at 12.12.18 13:16:41 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 73) : He is at the Cheetahs. Im assuming Louis Schreuder or that Visagie chap

  • Comment 75, posted at 12.12.18 13:17:22 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 68) : @JD (Comment 69) : @SheldonK (Comment 74) : Rassie apparently wants to keep Swys de Bruin in the Bok fold so Ipresume it will be Stick and de Bruyn going forward. Im not sure how the Lion sare liking all this Swys love from the Bok camp.

  • Comment 76, posted at 12.12.18 14:07:34 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 70) : He is a no-nonsense coach, will be interesting to see what impact he will have.

  • Comment 77, posted at 12.12.18 15:36:32 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 77) : I didnt know what to think of Pote as a coach but the Currie Cup semi played at Newlands gave me the idea that there is way more to him than the results show. He took a hiding, did his homework and came wit a plan and if truth be told his team should have played in the CC final.

  • Comment 78, posted at 12.12.18 16:40:12 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 75) : Yes but I don’t think he is contracted yet, or is he?

  • Comment 79, posted at 12.12.18 18:32:54 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 72) : @coolfusion (Comment 73) : Isn’t Ben10 with the Cheetahs? I wonder if Andre Esterhuizen wouldn’t be an option at 10, didn’t he play there in Japan under Carlos Spencer? Sharks certainly have plenty of cover for 12 if he covers 10 from time to time. Both Marius and Am can play at 12.

  • Comment 80, posted at 12.12.18 18:49:14 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 77) : @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 78) : personally I like Pote! He’s one of those coaches that seems to get the best out of players! Think he is very underrated as people see him as old school!

  • Comment 81, posted at 12.12.18 19:16:28 by JD Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 79) : @Dancing Bear (Comment 80) : I’m sure he’s contracted by the Cheetahs.

  • Comment 82, posted at 12.12.18 19:18:12 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 82) : That’s what I thought, it is a permanent move to the Cheetahs, not a loan agreement. So who do you think is our third choice flyhalf? Does AE fit that bill? I would like to see him used as first receiver from time to time to see if he can do the job in SuperRugby.

  • Comment 83, posted at 12.12.18 19:40:16 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 83) : not sure. Think it’s probably under 21 flyhalf or maybe Wright. Not sure André has the kicking and distribution game to succeed at 10 in Super rugby.

  • Comment 84, posted at 12.12.18 21:24:12 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 84) : Disagree regarding his boot… I’m not sure about the finer touches, but he gets decent distance on his kicks

  • Comment 85, posted at 12.12.18 21:29:29 by Karl Reply

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  • Well I’ve heard a few guys on here talk about Cam Wright as a potential 10 option. Then there’s Fassi, who spent some time at 10 in school. Hell, maybe we could coax Braam into lacing up in a pinch!

  • Comment 86, posted at 12.12.18 21:34:13 by Karl Reply

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  • Its probably wishful thinking but id love to see this Sharks backline:
    9. Schreuder 10. RDP 11. Nkosi 12. Esterhuizen 13. Ward 14. Am 15. Bosch
    Bench: Wright, Fassi, Van Wyk

  • Comment 87, posted at 13.12.18 09:18:17 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 87) : I think the only part that’s wishful thinking is having Am on the wing… Side note, I saw the other day that Ward’s Twitter/IG handle has the number 12 in it, so I’m wondering if that might be his preferred position. With the defense he showed in the latter parts of the Currie Cup, I wouldn’t mind seeing him there now and then… Man we’re blessed with some quality centres

  • Comment 88, posted at 13.12.18 10:29:24 by Karl Reply

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  • I see Lewies’ move to the Lions is also on loan?

  • Comment 89, posted at 13.12.18 10:38:33 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 89) : Ahhh, that makes it more palatable for me.

  • Comment 90, posted at 13.12.18 11:02:04 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 87) : @Karl (Comment 88) : Agree, I think we could see your backline from time to time but no doubt Am will be in the centres for most of the games. It would be great to see that backline even if only as an experiment.

  • Comment 91, posted at 13.12.18 11:05:27 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Karl (Comment 88) : Ward was a 12 at school, played outside Bosch who was at 10

  • Comment 92, posted at 13.12.18 11:07:14 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 89) : I see the Lions have also taken the WP Prop Carlu Sadie on loan…lots of loan deals for the lions

  • Comment 93, posted at 13.12.18 11:08:31 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Any idea what warm up games are planned for the Sharks?

  • Comment 94, posted at 13.12.18 12:48:51 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 78) : that’s how i feel as well, trying not to be too critical of Human, lets see what he can do, JM got them to play better but results were generally poor, though they seem to have our number in SR

  • Comment 95, posted at 13.12.18 13:22:58 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 94) : Think most of our team playing in various leagues across the world and are flying in just before super rugby starts

  • Comment 96, posted at 13.12.18 13:25:14 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 96) : True but they always try to squeeze in one or two games. Wasnt the game with the French team at the beginning of the season meant to become an annual event?

  • Comment 97, posted at 13.12.18 15:07:03 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 87) : mine would be

    9. Schreuder 10. RDP 11. Nkosi 12. Esterhuizen 13. Am 14. Mapimpi 15. Bosch
    Bench: Wright, Ward, Van Wyk

    Guys like Mvovo, Fassi, louw cant even make the match 23 that’s how much depth we have

    I was a bit harsh of my assessment of the young Visagie FH we have, not really fair as I’ve only seen him play on tv

    by the way i was surprised to hear that Stephan Lewies is only 26, wow his been around so long I assumed he was 30

  • Comment 98, posted at 14.12.18 08:34:16 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 98) : I would start Cam and include v Wyk. Sorry but Mapimpi has not shown what Kobus has. Even temperament good defense and as a bonus he has the wheels and flair necessary. Pure speed and finishing doesn’t represent the finished article. Mapimpi should be the impact imo and the stable dependable player should start.

  • Comment 99, posted at 14.12.18 09:53:20 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 85) : yes he can kick the ball far but think his kicking action is a bit slow so increases the chances of charged downs.

  • Comment 100, posted at 14.12.18 10:07:36 by JD Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 99) : fair enough that’s why we can have open and honest debate, you bring up some good points, I am a huge fan of van wyk as well

    have any of you seen Fassi’s instagram, how is that kid 19 and that muscular, he look thin on tv guys but I’ve seen him in person as well, his not as big as Nkosi yet but damn we have some athletic wings

  • Comment 101, posted at 14.12.18 10:10:47 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • A bit off topic but what are people views of the coaching set up? My view is that this is the year that we as fans can expect to see a real result. It is year three and the young team that RDP started nurturing a few years back has matured and he has had opportunity to recruit in places where he feels we need to be strengthened. We are liklely to lose a good few players post WC so for me its now or never for RDP. I don’t think any thing less than a semi will be ok and for me possibly even a final.

    I don’t think we will get past a quarter final though.

    Am I being a bit harsh?

  • Comment 102, posted at 14.12.18 11:10:51 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 101) : Speaking if Fassi Bosch better get his arse in gear if he doesn’t want to become a permanent bench feature to cover for Rob and Fassi. He should shore up his weak points aka defense right quick….

  • Comment 103, posted at 14.12.18 12:40:38 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 102) : You’re absolutely right. He did inherit a bit of a wreck he had two full rebuild years now the honeymoon is over. It’s quite right to expect and demand performance now.

  • Comment 104, posted at 14.12.18 12:43:10 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 102) : @coolfusion (Comment 104) : for sure! Sharks basically have a good squad and should deliver on the promise shown!

  • Comment 105, posted at 14.12.18 12:59:00 by JD Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 103) : for sure Fassi will be putting huge pressure on Bosch and the other backs for a place in the squad and maybe even starting team! He remind me a lot of JPP when he was still a youngster!

  • Comment 106, posted at 14.12.18 13:07:31 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 100) : But with the power he has behind the ball nobody would WANT to charge him down

  • Comment 107, posted at 14.12.18 15:33:51 by Karl Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 103) : Bosch is very much the SA version of Kurtley beale (i mean this in a good way) much hyped, over exposed when developing and then blooms in the later part of his career, bosch certainly doesn’t lack heart, everyones different, look at johan Goosen, he struggled at first with aspects of his game as well. I guess we are judging all player by frans steyn and jp petersen standards, that a high bar too reach and frans has had a roller coaster career with his weight issues

  • Comment 108, posted at 14.12.18 15:57:07 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 107) : I would back Andre the Giant at 10 if we need him, we will have to tailor our game plan to suit his strengths and negate is weaknesses though

    LS not a bad option at 10 either

  • Comment 109, posted at 14.12.18 15:59:14 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 93) : cost cutting measures at Western Financial Problems as usually they would have kept him in their system, but at least this way the young man will likely get more actual super rugby game time

  • Comment 110, posted at 14.12.18 16:27:01 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 108) : Look I like him but I’m saying the race is on if he wants to really distinguish hims lf he must know that the protege status only gets him this far now comes the hard graft and introspection there are others knocking on that door. I hope he gets the guidance necessary not everyone can afford being a late bloomer we know this game can end careers early.

  • Comment 111, posted at 14.12.18 16:47:00 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 111) : Sorry for the scrambled sentence I’ve still got a struggle with autocorrect and impatience.

  • Comment 112, posted at 14.12.18 16:48:07 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Does anyone have a list of the wider training squad details before the final cut?

  • Comment 113, posted at 15.12.18 22:50:21 by dawj Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 96) : I expect a slow start to the season with the team taking some time to gel again. Also Rob Jr will have to be a super-human if he is to play all the games in the season again

  • Comment 114, posted at 16.12.18 11:05:45 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 114) : I hope we have enough depth to start two teams and give our guys a good rotation early in the season.

  • Comment 115, posted at 16.12.18 14:23:34 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 115) : We do have that kind of depth in most positions, it really depends on whether the coaches have faith in the “2nd choice” players to give them enough game time to properly rotate the squad. I hope they do, I think these “2nd choice” players should have earned the coaches confidence. Of course this could all be wishful thinking.

  • Comment 116, posted at 17.12.18 22:22:39 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 114) : Rob snr must give him some rest and let Bosch or whom ever he sees as the backup flyhalf play especially at the start of the season!

  • Comment 117, posted at 18.12.18 08:16:17 by JD Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 116) : Good point. So far I have seen Rob less of a “pick your battles coach” and more of a win at all costs coach. But that could be him having to prove a point hopefully he is now confident enough to show a broader approach.

  • Comment 118, posted at 18.12.18 08:39:45 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 118) : And as I type that I remind myself that this is South Africa and we don’t really tollerate any other coach but a “win at all costs coach” for too long.

  • Comment 119, posted at 18.12.18 08:41:38 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 119) : And then we wonder why we never see much squad rotation….

  • Comment 120, posted at 18.12.18 12:55:34 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 120) : Yup. Catch 22.

  • Comment 121, posted at 18.12.18 13:49:48 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I see the Sale Sharks president says they are going to look to make the Du Preez signings permanent. (not sure if he means post WC) He says they are also in negotiation with a Hooker, Prop and Lock who are all current springboks. My money is on Akker and Thomas with RG Snyman.

  • Comment 122, posted at 18.12.18 14:31:21 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 122) : Think they want to sign DUP bros immediately and the other 3 after world cup.

  • Comment 123, posted at 18.12.18 21:00:44 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 123) : That will be pretty terrible for our Super Rugby chances. I would hope we are recruiting another top quality flyhalf especially. I doubt we will though most likely they will just wait for the season ticket renewal period to lapse and then announce the Du Preez have left.

  • Comment 124, posted at 19.12.18 09:14:27 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • Casting my mind back a few months many here wanted the Du Preez brothers and their father to take a hike.

  • Comment 125, posted at 19.12.18 11:54:12 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 125) : I wanted the father gone(still do) because I dont think its a good idea for a coach to coach his sons but to loose them at the 11th hour and not replace them would be dire for our side. We could maybe get by without Jean Luc but we down to one flyhalf if RDP goes.

  • Comment 126, posted at 19.12.18 14:47:15 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 124) : @Byron Wright (Comment 126) : would be seriously stupid of the Sharks to release Rob jnr even if they pay a release fee as the Sharks only have Bosch as backup and we all know he has had very limited opportunity to show his worth at 10!!! JLdP is a good player and it would be sad if he goes but I do think Sharks will be covered if they decide to release him but personally I do think Sale Sharks would have to pay a release/buy-out fee otherwise he must stay in Durbs!

  • Comment 127, posted at 19.12.18 15:33:42 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 127) : The Hound called it. One day we’ll be without the brothers Dup and we’ll feel the pinch! I don’t think any club/province side can say that they wouldn’t mind losing either of the 3, irrespective of their current depth. We’ll be in trouble without those lads, but we’ll be in the pound seats if we can hang onto them for a season or two more!

  • Comment 128, posted at 19.12.18 16:32:53 by Karl Reply

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  • I think the guy the” Shark fans’ here can thank if the du Preez boys leave, is none other than Erasmus.
    He conned the boys into playing that so called test against Wales in the USA ,Rob actually got 10 mins, made certain they couldn’t play for anyone else then he ignored all three never gave any of them a start again.
    The boys are professional rugby players with limited careers ,they have been denied the honour part of the game playing for your country and are left with the mercenary side playing for money.
    Only a complete idiot would play professional rugby for less money than he can get elsewhere.Springbok plus Sharks contracts could have kept these boys here but the days of the south African teams being able to match the Europeans is long gone.
    I just wish these boys had followed the other Durban Prep/Kearsney alumni Brad Barrit and Matt Stevens and gone to play for England.
    Imagine the twins under Eddie Jones,sigh

  • Comment 129, posted at 19.12.18 16:46:18 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 129) : Fully agree with this post – if I were one of them and the poms wanted to throw good money at me I would jump at the opportunity – its clear that Erasmus sees no value in them as far as the Bok team goes.

  • Comment 130, posted at 20.12.18 16:02:26 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • I see there is a nice pre-season get together at Newlands in early February with the Sharks taking on the Lions and the Stormers taking on the Bulls in the following game. Could be fun.

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 131) : Can get some free tickets just go and look on Super Sport website.

  • Comment 132, posted at 21.12.18 17:59:21 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 132) : Thanks for the tip, I think I will make use of it

  • Comment 133, posted at 22.12.18 07:55:30 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Marcel Coetzee played another blinder against Munster. Man of the match. Hope Rassie is taking notes.

  • Comment 134, posted at 22.12.18 08:43:46 by sudhir Reply

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  • @sudhir (Comment 134) : Sadly, I don’t think he is. I suspect the way the bok team looks now is the way we’re going into rwc.

  • Comment 135, posted at 22.12.18 09:29:23 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 133) : pleasure! Hope you win some tickets!

  • Comment 136, posted at 23.12.18 22:01:58 by JD Reply
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  • @sudhir (Comment 134) : @coolfusion (Comment 135) : a fully fit Marcell is an awesome sight!!! Personally I believe he’s the best SA loose but like @cool said unfortunately I don’t think rassie share my view!!!

  • Comment 137, posted at 23.12.18 22:04:18 by JD Reply
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  • Merry Christmas everyone. Have a goodie…

  • Comment 138, posted at 25.12.18 00:14:51 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 138) : Ditto Holy Man & to all the others

  • Comment 139, posted at 25.12.18 20:08:26 by benji Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 138) : Thanks and to you and all who read these pages. Peace people.

  • Comment 140, posted at 26.12.18 00:41:51 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 138) : @benji (Comment 139) : @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 140) : bit late but thanks hope you also had a blessed Christmass!

  • Comment 141, posted at 27.12.18 20:35:38 by JD Reply
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  • Happy New Year Sharksworlders! Hope it’s a goodie…

  • Comment 142, posted at 01.01.19 00:40:30 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 142) : From your lips to your Big Bosses ears and just for once may that damn trophy end up in the cabinet in Durban

  • Comment 143, posted at 01.01.19 10:28:18 by benji Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 142) : same to you and you loved ones Pastor!

  • Comment 144, posted at 02.01.19 08:01:21 by JD Reply
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  • @benji (Comment 143) : Think if the Sharks have plans of winning “that” trophy it better be this year as I have a feeling they (and the other SA teams) will be losing some key players after the World Cup!

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