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Happy 2019


Written by Henk Terblanche (Bokhoring)

Posted in :RWC 2019, Sharks, Super Rugby on 2 Jan 2019 at 08:39

Best wishes for 2019 to all citizens of Sharksworld and their families.

While we tread water and wait for the Sharks’ rugby season to start, how about we take part in two common practices at the start of any new year – resolutions and predictions?

Let’s share some New Year’s resolutions. Not for ourselves, but on behalf of Rob Sr and / or the Sharks team. Sticking to effective resolutions and not wishes, i.e. we want to win the Super Rugby trophy. So only actionable resolutions allowed.

On the prediction front:

  • Will the Sharks finally (please) manage to win a Super Rugby trophy?
  • If not, which team will take the trophy this year?
  • How far will the Sharks progress in Super Rugby?
  • Which will be the best South African team in the competition?
  • Who will the young Sharks player that will really impress this year?
  • How far will the Boks progress at the World Cup?
  • Which team will win the World Cup?

 



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  • On the prediction front, I look to historical data: Sharks will more than likely reach the quarter finals, lions (it breaks my heart to say it) to win Saffa conference, Fassi to shine this season, Waratahs to win in this RWC year. Maybe Ireland to take the cup? Reckon Springboks will bow out in semi finals.

  • Comment 1, posted at 02.01.19 14:03:31 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • Sharks to bow out in quarters and so will the boks.

  • Comment 2, posted at 02.01.19 19:51:07 by Poisy Reply
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  • I say quarters minimum. We have done so with far less than we have now. Will wait to see how nz handles supers on a strategic level. They may opt to not risk too many stars too early or late in.

  • Comment 3, posted at 03.01.19 12:02:24 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 1) : Agreed on Fassi, Bosch had better watch his back or risk becoming a utility replacement. Ward and Tyler ready to step up. Jldp to reclaim his form and van Wyk too. Let’s hope the coach plans accordingly. Akker to possibly outshine Marx this year his already in sniffing distance. Midfield going to heavily contended willh Louw Am Ward Andre. Hoping Dan continues upward curve. TH still too early to call but we have some options limtef but I predict if Meyer gets airtime he could push Tommy to become better or replace him.

  • Comment 4, posted at 03.01.19 12:11:41 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 4) : Books I recon semi finals. They are just not there yet but things could change

  • Comment 5, posted at 03.01.19 12:13:22 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Super rugby – Sharks vs Lions final with the Sharks winning 23-16
    Best SA team well duh the Sharks s they will win the trophy
    Fassi will be the star youngster
    SA to play Ireland in World cup final but will lose 25-12

  • Comment 6, posted at 03.01.19 12:16:24 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 6) : Realistically (for me)Ireland, NZ for final depending how knockouts will pan out. Hopefully a favourable quarter should see SA get to semi’s but not more.

  • Comment 7, posted at 03.01.19 12:18:58 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I have a hunch bulls will step up in supers may be more competition to sharks than lions this year. Duane signing up will definitely help a lot.

  • Comment 8, posted at 03.01.19 12:27:05 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 8) : They also signed Hendricks and Britz. There is definitely something brewing at bulls camp for 2019

  • Comment 9, posted at 03.01.19 12:29:10 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 9) : Brits

  • Comment 10, posted at 03.01.19 12:29:25 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 8) : yes think the Bulls will be better but still not sure if they should have the team to beat the Sharks.
    This must be the season that the Sharks step up and deliver because I don’t think they will such a talented team next year with the expected post World Cup northern exodus!
    As for the Bokke I think if the right team is picked they might just surprise one or two teams (especially if they lose the pool game vs NZ as I think that will wake them up to perform better in the rest of the tournament).

  • Comment 11, posted at 03.01.19 15:47:05 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 11) : Agree with you. Hopefull but a little sceptical. Don’t know what you would call that mix…..

  • Comment 12, posted at 03.01.19 16:26:04 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Boks to take The Cup.

    By 25.

  • Comment 13, posted at 04.01.19 11:37:57 by McLovin Reply

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  • Watching Sale Sharks vs Saracens, no JL du Preez, he is back home injured. Had to happen sometime or other.

  • Comment 14, posted at 04.01.19 21:50:01 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Furthermore I’ve read that Leicester Tigers want to sign all 3 Du Preez boys. Sale apparently I want to keep JL and Rob Du Preez.

  • Comment 15, posted at 04.01.19 21:57:23 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • I’ve read that Leicester Tigers want to sign all 3 Du Preez boys asap.

  • Comment 16, posted at 04.01.19 21:59:11 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 16) : I hope they get it. Though all at the same club may not be good for them individually.

  • Comment 17, posted at 05.01.19 11:02:29 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 14) : How serious an injury?

  • Comment 18, posted at 05.01.19 11:51:28 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 18) : Groin injury, I don’t know how long that will be. Apparently Rob Du Preez also on his way home – short term contract ended.

  • Comment 19, posted at 05.01.19 13:09:50 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 15) : Where did you see that report about Leicester Tigers?

    I saw a report that Sale are keen to keep JLDP and Rob.

  • Comment 20, posted at 06.01.19 12:00:44 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 12) : let’s call it hopetical. ;-)

  • Comment 21, posted at 06.01.19 18:15:45 by JD Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 16) : @ChrisS (Comment 20) : Think a couple of clubs will be trying to sign them! Really hope Sharks will be able to keep them for another couple of years!

  • Comment 22, posted at 06.01.19 18:20:21 by JD Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 14) : also watched the game. That Sale back 3 is really good! Would love a player like Ashton in the Sharks back 3!

  • Comment 23, posted at 06.01.19 18:24:30 by JD Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 20) : Here’s the link https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/domestic-club-rugby-union/31769/leicester-tigers-pursue-du-preez-brothers/

  • Comment 24, posted at 06.01.19 23:46:26 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 23) : Agree, that backline works so well, Faf de Klerk oozes confidence, Rob Du Preez times and passes that long flat ball so well. Maybe we can bring Ashton to our side as payment for loaning them the Du Preez’s. Serious talent.

  • Comment 25, posted at 06.01.19 23:50:37 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • I watched Top14 match between Racing 92 and Toulon…Lambie was on the bench but did not play at all…also the commentator said that Mathieu Bastareaud may be joining either the Durban based Sharks or the Sunwolves for SuperRugby? However, I read an article on 4 Jan on RugbyLad that he may be joining Stormers or Sunwolves? Anyone aware of this? Will The Sharks really be needing him with our centres coming through nicely? Can the stormers afford him? My bet would be he will be joining Sunwolves…

  • Comment 26, posted at 07.01.19 00:19:47 by DuToit04 Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 24) : Thanks very much. I’ll check it out

  • Comment 27, posted at 07.01.19 07:37:55 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @DuToit04 (Comment 26) : Apparently that will be after the world cup

  • Comment 28, posted at 07.01.19 10:05:02 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Now for the purpose of this thread…

    Will the Sharks finally (please) manage to win a Super Rugby trophy? – No, but will be much improved.
    If not, which team will take the trophy this year? – Crusaders
    How far will the Sharks progress in Super Rugby? – Semis
    Which will be the best South African team in the competition? – Sharks
    Who will the young Sharks player that will really impress this year? – Fassi / Tyler Paul
    How far will the Boks progress at the World Cup? – Semis
    Which team will win the World Cup? – New Zealand but am hoping for Ireland or Wales.

  • Comment 29, posted at 07.01.19 11:30:08 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 29) : Thank you – I was about to give up :razz: What about a New Year’s resolution for the Sharks?

  • Comment 30, posted at 07.01.19 13:25:45 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Happy new year to you all and a thanks to the guys who kept this site up and running.

    Sharks- Semi
    Crusaders to win
    Boks-Quarterfinal(Ireland await)
    Sharks best SA team
    Bosch/Fassi
    NZ to win the WC

    New years resolution is to stop the handling errors.

  • Comment 31, posted at 07.01.19 14:40:04 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 30) : My new years resolution for the Sharks – I will have a look at them more critically this year – the honeymoon period is over. The Sharks new years resolution for me better be that Salmo wont have to engage his new years resolution this year.

  • Comment 32, posted at 07.01.19 15:12:28 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 31) : Bosch is going to be interesting this season – I think it will be a watershed year for him, he just has to step up and announce himself or Im afraid that he will become a forgotten promise.

  • Comment 33, posted at 07.01.19 15:14:41 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Did anyone catch the year in review on Supersport in December, not the proper one but the one where they cocked it up and did 2017 instead of 2018.I was lucky to come across it at a segment where they were reviewing the Kings and Nick Mallet was raving about the coaching of a certain David Williams and what an influennce he had on the Kings. I must admit until he ws appointed as a Sharks coach I had no idea who he really was but reading up on him and hearing views about him such as Mallets makes me think that we have made a very good appointment. Pity about Dick Muir though

  • Comment 34, posted at 07.01.19 15:25:25 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 33) : I agree Bosch has been a bit afraid in my view but maybe the time abroad( I seem to think he went to Japan) as well as being a bit older will have given him a bit more steel and with his abilities being backed by heart he could be great.

    However as you say the promise needs to turn into output or another youngster will be along to take his chance.

  • Comment 35, posted at 07.01.19 15:34:24 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • My New Years resolution is for some consistency over the season

    If the Sharks do that with the team they have on paper they can make the semis and be the top SA team.
    Hurricanes to take the Super trophy
    Young player that will make an impact: Fassi / Ward
    Boks out in the quarters – I can’t see this team beating one of All Blacks or Ireland
    AB’s had a good scare this year and will come back snorting

  • Comment 36, posted at 07.01.19 15:35:50 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • I must admit i fear for the Sharks this year owing to the number of players playing over the off season. I feel this could come back to bite the Sharks badly and i feel we will struggle to make the playoffs.
    I think reality will bite the Boks as one win last year overshadowed a lot of poor play and they may struggle to make the QF.
    In terms of players, id really like to see our 9s (Schreuder/Wright) deliver some good stuff consistently.
    I think NZ will be too strong in both Super Rugby and the RWC but dont write off Eng and even OZ in the RWC. Ireland to bow out in QF.

  • Comment 37, posted at 08.01.19 10:50:23 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 37) : The Boks will have to do really badly to not come at least second in pool B (NZ, SA, Italy, Namibia, Canada), and I also do not see Ireland not winning pool A (Ireland, Scotland, Japan, Russia, Samoa). At this stage Ireland must be the outright favourite in a QF against SA.

  • Comment 38, posted at 08.01.19 11:18:52 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 38) : Yeh look more than likely Boks will finish runners up and Ireland will go through top of their pool, and yeh Ireland would be favourites. But i just get this feeling that there could be a few strange results this year…and not just at RWC

  • Comment 39, posted at 08.01.19 12:16:14 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Hate to be the one to point out the obvious. Sharks still have some of their players playing overseas whilst other teams have basically had their full squads available since beginning of preseason, Dick Muir was fired due to Rob senior’s favoritism, no recruitment has been done whilst teams like the Bulls have recruited exceptionally well, nothing has been done to address the imbalance with the pack’s back 5.. Guys. Sharks to finish bottom of SA conference. Sorry. CC is very different to SR.

  • Comment 40, posted at 08.01.19 12:38:14 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • 2019 Super Rugby could very well be the last year any of the DuPreez are involved with the Sharks…

  • Comment 41, posted at 08.01.19 13:37:48 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 40) : Once again Dick Muirs contract ended and was not renewed. Very different from being fired, but you actually know all this anyway.

  • Comment 42, posted at 08.01.19 14:37:32 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 41) : Sad but quiete possible.I hope it pans out differently though.

  • Comment 43, posted at 08.01.19 15:02:56 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 40) : I am losing faith a bit in Teighman seems we are stagnating a bit.

    Still hope that this is our year but without any players coming in and so many of our players having had no off season I don’t see us winning super rugby. What will help us is the conference system and the lions not having the side they have had previously.

    Teighman obviously favours heavy investment in youth which John Smit shelved as being a poor return on investment. Will be interesting to see which approach is correct but the Bulls have been the biggest recruiters at age group level for years and it hasn’t lead to results.

    We short an openside a Fly-half and a 4 lock if you ask me.

  • Comment 44, posted at 08.01.19 15:10:20 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 44) : would have thought Koegelenberg’s form in Currie Cup and the chance to blood JJ meant we are better stocked at 4 than we have been? Bosch the back-up 10 – and yes, no obvious openside naturally (apart from Vosloo?). But wasn’t Tyler Paul playing there – and really well? The recruitment of youngsters is pretty focused on quality as opposed to quantity from what I can see -the challenge is obviously to keep the good ones but I can totally see the rationale – mid-career recruitment is getting tougher?

  • Comment 45, posted at 08.01.19 20:22:51 by JR Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 40) : signing guys at the end of their careers doesn’t really have a great history – you’ll prove me wrong but the Lions and the Bulls of the noughties built squads as far as I can remember. Let these young guys prove whether they can make it – whether Louw can get past Esterhuizen, whether Fassi can crack a regular spot etc etc. I’m more excited by that than a team getting to know each other on the pitch. Favouritism? Which one would you leave out?

  • Comment 46, posted at 08.01.19 20:56:29 by JR Reply

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  • @JR (Comment 45) : I like Kogelenberg and in couple years JJ Van Der Mescht could be a great but I don’t see a a lock pairing of Kogelenberg and Botha making another title contending side. It is not ideal to have a single backup 10 in a squad and he is also your starting fullback. Tyler Paul only played openside once and in the final where we went out to and successfully bullied province. He will revert to 4 when the twins are back.

    We are short of a real title contending squad and players like Kogleberg, Botha, Vosloo,Vermulen are not really going to make up for that.

    Further on the Bosch issue we used to have all of Lambie,Bosch,Radebe, and April( possibly Ben 10 as well) to cover 10. now we have 2 instead of 5 and neither of the two had an off season.

  • Comment 47, posted at 09.01.19 08:19:42 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • So assuming no injuries (i believe JL DuPreez has an injury) then we should see somethign along these lines in the first game:
    1. Beast 2. Akker 3. Coenie 4. Botha 5. Andrews 6. Van Der Walt 7. JL DuPreez 8.D DuPreez 9. Schreuder 10. R DuPreez 11. Fassi 12. Esterhuizen 13. Am 14. Nkosi 15. Bosch
    Bench: Schoeman, Chilliboy, DuToit , Paul, Vermuelen, Wright, Louw/Ward, Mvovo/Van Wyk

  • Comment 48, posted at 09.01.19 11:00:11 by SheldonK Reply

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  • And lewies is off to the lions????

  • Comment 49, posted at 09.01.19 11:29:36 by osbal Reply

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  • @osbal (Comment 49) : seems so

  • Comment 50, posted at 09.01.19 12:11:55 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 48) : I think you pretty much bang on with the exception of

    4)Paul
    5)Botha

    We look to have decent side imagine( and this is just a dream) we could add a Lood de jager at 5 and a Marcel Coetzee at six with someone like Lionel Cronje as backup 10. Then I would believe we could win Super rugby.

  • Comment 51, posted at 09.01.19 12:14:35 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 51) : Yeh you could be right in terms of the lock combo, i just have a feeling that will want to push Andrews in. Botha was very poor in 2018. So even perhaps a Paul/Andrews combo

  • Comment 52, posted at 09.01.19 12:27:40 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 52) : I like that Andrews/Paul combo I think it has good balance and as you say Botha was not great last season but as captain i don’t see him being benched.

  • Comment 53, posted at 09.01.19 12:52:14 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 53) : I wouldnt be surprised to see a change of captain to Louis Schreuder perhaps

  • Comment 54, posted at 09.01.19 13:28:04 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @DuToit04 (Comment 26) : @Bokhoring (Comment 28) : really hope he’s not coming to the Sharks as personally I think he’s overrated and secondly the Sharks have more than enough quality cover at 12 & 13 (Andre, Am, Louw and Ward all showed good form and RdP jnr and v Wyk as added cover).

  • Comment 55, posted at 09.01.19 13:39:45 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 41) : @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 43) : all will depend on when their contracts expire, what their contracts reads and if the Sharks can or want to match the other offers as they will receive offers for sure!!!

  • Comment 56, posted at 09.01.19 13:43:06 by JD Reply
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  • @osbal (Comment 49) : I hope he does not pull a PSDT on us and manages to complete a full season at another franchise just after leaving the Sharks. :razz:

  • Comment 57, posted at 09.01.19 14:53:03 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 57) : On a serious note I do hope he can overcome his injury gremlin and get back to the form he had 2-3 years ago.

  • Comment 58, posted at 09.01.19 14:55:02 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • My wish is for the sharks to get a out and out fetcher. How i miss Marcel and buzz.

  • Comment 59, posted at 09.01.19 15:12:08 by osbal Reply

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  • My wish is for the sharks to get a out and out fetcher. How i miss Marcel and Buzzy.

  • Comment 60, posted at 09.01.19 15:12:59 by osbal Reply

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  • Just wanted to state that I have a lot of respect for Siya Kolisi and his opinions and not being scared to say what he feels opposed to what he knows he should. I’m not his biggest fan but wow, I have a new found respect for him.

  • Comment 61, posted at 09.01.19 18:09:48 by Hulk Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 47) : this is not a SR winning squad. Not by a long shot. Rugby still needs hard experienced soldiers that don’t take any kak and youth to inject pace and excitement. We have a positions 4 to 8 problem as a combination. We only survived last year thanks to our front row combination. We are going to again battle to gain ascendency in the forward exchanges and are going to rely on a 50:50 offloading game which is meant to be an added dimension…. not your core game plan. Surely an experienced SA number 4 lock from Europe wanting to be a dark horse come RWC, a quality number 6 and depth at 7 and 8 with the Du Preez twins so injury prone would have helped. I even fail to understand why we were not in the running for Willie’s signature. I’m not sure what wool Sharks management is try to pull over our eyes but I am not buying it. Why is Rob even still in Europe? Had they come back with everyone else in January maybe JLDP would not be injured.

  • Comment 62, posted at 09.01.19 18:20:40 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 62) : This is an argument for leaving Super Rugby and trying to make a deal to get into the Heineken Cup no? I don’t understand why we’d bid anybody to come back for one season for a very unlikely chance of making the WC, take a chunk of budget and then leave? The track record of that working is roughly zero no? And it doesn’t take you forward… The Lions model is the only one that’s shown any success in recent years

  • Comment 63, posted at 09.01.19 20:03:29 by JR Reply

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  • Because the lions have Rudolph S.

  • Comment 64, posted at 09.01.19 21:36:39 by osbal Reply

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  • Does anyone know if Nick Easter is sticking around or has he gone back to UK? I know it was meant to be for a short learning stint but would be great if he was here for super rugby

  • Comment 65, posted at 10.01.19 10:51:22 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 65) : It doesn’t look like he’s involved this year…

  • Comment 66, posted at 10.01.19 11:51:06 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 65) : I thought that I had read that he was going to be with the Sharks for this years SupeRugby. Can’t find it now so it was probably just wishful thinking.

  • Comment 67, posted at 10.01.19 18:17:32 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 67) : From Sharksrugby.co.za
    “To this end, the Cell C Sharks would like to announce our 2019 Vodacom Super Rugby coaching team, which will be led by our Head Coach Robert du Preez. He will be ably assisted by Ricardo Loubscher (backline), Jaco Pienaar (forwards), Braam van Straaten (defence) as well as the new addition to our coaching staff, David Williams, who will be responsible for our attack.

    David has a good coaching track record having coached at Kobe Steelers, London Irish and Bath abroad. Locally he’s had stints with the Southern Kings and was their attack coach in their stellar year in 2016, which saw them cause many upsets that year in Vodacom Super Rugby and most recently was part of the Cheetahs coaching team in the Pro14.”

    So no Nick Easter on the coaching team.

  • Comment 68, posted at 11.01.19 04:49:13 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 68) : Pity as i think Nick Easter gave our forwards a bit of a hard but streetsnart edge, Easter was a good player but a bit under rated for the work he got through.
    Going to be interesting to see if the Sharks bring anything new to the table this year as playing like they did last year and just hoping the 50/50 offloads stick could run us into big trouble

  • Comment 69, posted at 11.01.19 07:58:43 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 68) : Thanks. Looking forward to what David Williams is going to bring to the Sharks. Have heard good things so far.

  • Comment 70, posted at 11.01.19 11:03:25 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 68) : what is the difference between the backline coaches roll compared to the attack coaches roll?

  • Comment 71, posted at 11.01.19 16:16:53 by Hulk Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 71) : suppose back line coach the backs where as attacking coach is like defence coach, coaching structures and plans to both forwards and backs?

  • Comment 72, posted at 11.01.19 23:59:22 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 69) : The game plan hasn’t changed in 2 years. I doubt it will.

  • Comment 73, posted at 12.01.19 16:09:29 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 71) : Attacking coach is supposed to include forwards tactics. Not saying it does, but it should be holistic.

  • Comment 74, posted at 12.01.19 16:24:27 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 73) : I live in hope :cool:

  • Comment 75, posted at 14.01.19 08:18:58 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Hulk (Comment 71) : Basically: backline coach is more hands on where as the attacking coach is more technical and analysis etc.

  • Comment 76, posted at 14.01.19 08:20:04 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 76) : Throw in a skills coach as well and then it all becomes as clear as mud :mrgreen:

  • Comment 77, posted at 14.01.19 08:44:29 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Jean Luc Du Preez is out for 3 months. Why were they released to play in Europe when other players intergral to the Boks are on preseason training. Duane and the Lions mob for example are training whilst dad allows his sons to globe trot. Now one of them is injured again after having an injury on the same groin that was operated on which kept him out last year.

  • Comment 78, posted at 14.01.19 09:47:50 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 78) : Pretty simply because they will be looking to head abroad after super rugby so getting a foot in the door boosts their chances ahead of the mass exodus after a RWC. Top players focus in a RWC year is not their club/franchise side, its making the RWC and if not then securing a big overseas contract

  • Comment 79, posted at 14.01.19 10:35:25 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 78) : 3 months, thats a bummer. It was not ideal that he was released to play anyone on a short term contract but at least we had him for the Currie Cup as opposed to the guys that have Japanese contracts and furthermore Erasmus has made it very clear that he is not seen as integral to the Boks in any way.

  • Comment 80, posted at 14.01.19 10:39:55 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 78) : I thought you’d be happy that Jean Luc is injured.
    Now the coach can’t pick one of his favoured sons over another player you keep telling us is sidelined to make way for these sub par OVER RATED brothers.
    Who was it you were touting as the logical overlooked choice again.

  • Comment 81, posted at 14.01.19 11:33:26 by The hound Reply
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  • With JL DuPreez out for a bit it will be interesting to see how they rejig the pack with the options available

  • Comment 82, posted at 14.01.19 12:18:16 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 81) : you are mistaken. My comment was on Dick Muir saying he was basically forced out at the Sharks because he wanted Curwin Bosch to play at flyhalf but Rob snr would not hear any of it. Dick’s gripe was that he was charged with making a force out of our backline and felt that Curwin has the better skills to do that. So yes Rob definitely showed bias there. Jean is one of my favorite players buddy. I have been consistent in my comments. My other issue is the pack’s back 5 as a combination. I feel position 4,5 and 6 weaken that pack. We have been carried by our front row. The twins are always injured especially beginning of SR and at the end. They are still young.. why were they released especially looking at their history with injuries. We haven’t had the consistent benefit of having them. This injury has added to our back 5’s problem. For 3 years they haven’t been able to buy any dominance in any SR game yet our entire game is based on physicality.

  • Comment 83, posted at 14.01.19 16:32:08 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 83) : The issue I have with what you are saying is that just because Rob prefers Rob Jr. at 10 to Bosch does not mean it is because of bias. There are loads of people out there that think Rob Jr. is a better 10 and have no bias whatsoever, and I am one of them. There are plenty of good reasons to consider Rob Jr. the better choice, not saying that is the only right answer, as I’m sure there are loads of people out there that agree with you and Dick Muir. It is just a rugby disagreement, and has nothing to do with bias in my opinion.

  • Comment 84, posted at 14.01.19 19:39:31 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 83) :Rugby turned professional on 26 August 1995, and still some people don’t understand what that means
    .It means you get payed large sums of money to play the game.You only get paid that money because it is a huge physical challenge and players run the risk of injury, the best players get injured often.They are the ones who enter every contest with everything they have.
    Players like Schalk Burger,Marcel Coetzee,Kieran Reid, David Pocock and yes the du Preez twins.
    They are also the players you pay money to watch ,kinda like motor racing ,because with that level of danger their is an equal level of excitement.
    Since they played their first game for the Sharks,their hasn’t been one game that one of the twins didn’t play the whole game and in nearly every instance with a close to man of the match performance.
    They were allowed to play in the U.K to substantiate their Sharks contracts which are way below what they could be earning in Europe.Seeing as Erasmus has decided not to pay them Springbok contracts the only way we can still keep these guys in Durban is to let them play in Europe when they are not required by the Sharks.

  • Comment 85, posted at 14.01.19 21:47:04 by The hound Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 83) : You basing your assumption that Muir was pushed out on a speculative article in Rapport. There was no comments from Dick on the matter that I can find.

  • Comment 86, posted at 15.01.19 07:47:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 82) : Would be nice to see Stringer at 6 with Dan Du Preez at 7 with PvDV at 8 however I suspect we will see PvdV at 6 , Paul 7 and Dan 8.

  • Comment 87, posted at 15.01.19 11:53:27 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 86) : Dicks short term contract came to an end and was not renewed. That Rapport article……. :oops:

  • Comment 88, posted at 15.01.19 12:44:42 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • So how many du Preez boys injured? Just JL ?

  • Comment 89, posted at 15.01.19 15:57:25 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 88) : The fact that Dick was appointed as consultant and not as assistant coach tells me it was never planned to be permanent (as permanent as coaching positions can be).

  • Comment 90, posted at 15.01.19 16:00:33 by Bokhoring Reply
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