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Sharks Super Rugby Squad (maybe)


Written by Henk Terblanche (Bokhoring)

Posted in :Super Rugby on 15 Jan 2019 at 12:10

I have found this Sharks squad listed at Sanzar Rugby.

One would therefore assume it is a pretty official one, but it does contain one Rhyno Smith who I understand has moved to the Cheetahs.

Andre Esterhuizen (Centre)
Andrew Evans (Lock)
Aphelele Fassi (Utility back)
Armand van der Merwe (Hooker)
Cameron Wright (Scrum half)
Chilliboy Ralepelle (Hooker)
Coenraad Oosthuizen (Prop)
Courney Winnaar (Utility back)
Curwin Bosch (Full back)
Daniel du Preez (Back row)
Dylan Richardson (Back row)
Fezokuhle Mbatha (Hooker)
Gideon Koegelenberg (Lock)
Grant Williams (Scrum half)
Hyron Andrews (Lock)
Jacobus van Wyk (Centre)
Jacques Vermeulen (Flanker)
Jean-Luc du Preez (Flanker)
Jeremy Ward (Centre)
JJ van der Mescht (Lock)
John-Hubert Meyer (Prop)
Juan Schoeman (Prop)
Khutuzani Mchunu (Prop)
Kwandza Dimaza (Back row)
Leolin Zas (Centre)
Louis Schreuder (Scrum half)
Lubabalo Mtembu (Back row)
Luke Stringer (Back row)
Lukhanyo Am (Centre)
Lwazi Mvovo (Winger)
Makazole Mapimpi (Winger)
Marius Louw (Centre)
Muller du Plessis (Winger)
Mzamo Majola (Prop)
Phendulani Buthelezi (Back row)
Philip van der Walt (Flanker)
Rhyno Smith (Fullback)
Robert du Preez (Flyhalf)
Ruan Botha (Lock)
Ruben van Heerden (Lock)
Sanele Nohamba (Scrumhalf)
Sibusiso Nkosi (Winger)
Tendai Mtawarira (Prop)
Thomas du Toit (Prop)
Tyler Paul (Lock)
Wian Vosloo (Back row)



48 Comments

  • Photos on The Sharks social media pages of last week’s training session showed Rhyno Smith very much present.

    I, too, was surprised. His time with Cheetahs must have been a loan.

  • Comment 1, posted at 15.01.19 12:17:34 by Shakes34 Reply
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  • Hi everyone – Happy New Year. Yes, Rhyno does seem to be back. I also thought it was a permanent move but clearly it wasn’t.

    BTW, a note on the squads sent to SANZAAR. The way it typically works is that they will define some arbitrary early January deadline to get a list of names, so they can start preparing media guides, etc. The Sharks are always taken completely by surprise, so ask some member of backroom staff to just send a list of the first 45 players that come to mind. As you can see, about 3/4 of the under 19 squad from last year is included on that list.

    Pinch of salt, in other words.

  • Comment 2, posted at 15.01.19 12:20:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • That squad looks like pretty much every Sharks contracted player :mrgreen:

  • Comment 3, posted at 15.01.19 12:34:41 by SheldonK Reply

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  • SANZAAR still had Stephan Lewies in the squad last week – I see he now shows up for the Lions

  • Comment 4, posted at 15.01.19 12:37:34 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : LMAO @ Robdylan “The Sharks are always taken completely by surprise”

    EVERY. F£$%ING. YEAR.

  • Comment 5, posted at 15.01.19 12:42:56 by andredewaal Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : Welcome back boss :grin: You need to pop in more often

  • Comment 6, posted at 15.01.19 12:48:10 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Would love to see Muller Du Plessis and Fasi get a run some time. Always enjoyed Smith and he was instrumental in our last Jaguares victory in Argentina.

    Yeah, looks like far too many youngsters on the list, so salt it is.

    Getting worried with Sale circling that we need to ensure Akker is first choice to keep him hungry and happy

  • Comment 7, posted at 15.01.19 13:05:22 by Kabouter Reply

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  • Presumably Smith is our second back up 10?

  • Comment 8, posted at 15.01.19 13:53:13 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 8) : nope he covers back 3.

  • Comment 9, posted at 15.01.19 14:36:09 by JD Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : same old same old…….. great to see you back!

  • Comment 10, posted at 15.01.19 14:38:24 by JD Reply
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  • Zas at centre? Interesting…

  • Comment 11, posted at 15.01.19 15:50:24 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 9) :

    So who is the third choice 10? Nohamba? They have him as 9 but he can play 10 and there are 4 scrumhalves and only one Flyhalf int the squad. Andre played a tiny bit of 10 under Spencer I think.

  • Comment 12, posted at 15.01.19 15:53:27 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 11) : Not that he couldn’t concievably be a 13. Just a lot of guys who are centres congesting those spots. Would have thought Zas would be a awing or fb option rather…

  • Comment 13, posted at 15.01.19 15:53:54 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 12) : I would say Williams would be third option scrummy.

  • Comment 14, posted at 15.01.19 15:54:49 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 13) : Still the list looks very much like it will be.

  • Comment 15, posted at 15.01.19 16:03:53 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Seems to exclude Kobus b Wyk though?

  • Comment 16, posted at 15.01.19 16:05:43 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 16) : Sorry, it doesn’t..I see Jacobus v Wyk at centre

  • Comment 17, posted at 15.01.19 16:06:26 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 17) : Also would be interested to see him play at 13

  • Comment 18, posted at 15.01.19 16:07:05 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Don’t know what it is abt this year but I just can’t seem to get excited about sharks rugby. Think I have finally given up hope on a super rugby trophy in my life time and I’m only 28

  • Comment 19, posted at 15.01.19 19:40:20 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 12) : really don’t know?

  • Comment 20, posted at 15.01.19 20:41:47 by JD Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 19) : at least Sharks have a better chance than Cheetahs and Kings!!! :twisted:
    Don’t take sport to serious ever win is a bonus!!!

  • Comment 21, posted at 15.01.19 20:43:51 by JD Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 18) : think Am and Ward should play 13 for all the games!

  • Comment 22, posted at 15.01.19 20:47:04 by JD Reply
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  • How many U20 from last year can realistically push for a squad place? Winnaar – anybody else?

  • Comment 23, posted at 15.01.19 21:30:44 by JR Reply

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  • @JR (Comment 23) : van der Mescht?

  • Comment 24, posted at 16.01.19 04:14:12 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 21) : :evil: Don’t judge the Cheets to harshly my friend. They are in a serious build from the bottom phase. Lost some serious firepower, but the young turks are beginning to gel, and soon we will be factor in Pro14. Sharks have had a period of relative stability, but haven’t capitalised on that yet. I do think they have a better shot this year, but I think many players will be leaving this year.

    Cheetahs lost in the pack: Tom Botha, Torsten, Reniel Hugo, Carl Wegner, Rynier Bernardo, Cassiem, Henco Venter, and Paul Schoeman. All regular first choice players.

    Backline: Fred Zeilinga, Neill Marais, Clinton Swart, Francois Venter, Blommetjies, and Mapimpi. All also pretty much assured first choice players.

    The new group is beginning to find their teeth, I and expect a much better showing going towards the end of the Pro 14. Players to watch this year. Dweba, the hooker, JP du Preez, and Walt Steenkamp (locks) Daniel Maartens, Pokomela and Wiese (LF), Ben 10, and Maxwane.

    Ben 10 has become a fine 13, great lines, vision, and pace off the mark. Him and Nico Lee are a fine combination.

  • Comment 25, posted at 16.01.19 07:18:49 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 25) : “They are in a serious build from the bottom phase”… Copy and paste from every year since Chris Badenhorst played!

  • Comment 26, posted at 16.01.19 07:53:05 by Karl Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 26) : Hmmmm no, not entirely true :evil: The 2013 season showed, that when the Cheetahs, like any other team have a bit of continuity, they can be successful. 2013, was a good year, because they lost very few players from 2012.

  • Comment 27, posted at 16.01.19 09:30:23 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 27) : The problem now is that every SA team is losing players but the cheetahs haven’t had the financial clout to contract enough depth to remain competitive when the player drain happens. Hopefully the smaller squad rule will help you guys and the kings.

  • Comment 28, posted at 16.01.19 11:38:29 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 28) : Yeah. We need all the help we can get, I fear it will just accelerate the exodus of players though. The French Lower leagues, and other European countries, still pay more, due to the weak rand. We may see more players playing in lesser known European rugby countries.

  • Comment 29, posted at 16.01.19 11:43:43 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 29) : And there is the slow rise of American rugby to drain our players further. We need to hope for an improved currency and economy for s many reasons but certainly our rugby needs it.

  • Comment 30, posted at 16.01.19 12:26:32 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 29) : @Byron Wright (Comment 30) : unfortunately both of you are 100% correct. 10-15 years ago only top players (guys who played for Bokke aged 26-27) were signed by overseas clubs. These days they’re signing younger and younger players (aged 22-23) with some clubs now even sending scouts to Craven week and co to look for talent!
    Now add some “emerging” nations (especially those with a bit of money) wanting to get “talented” players to add to their national squads and SA teams will be in a state of rebuilding every 2 years (as it currently seems to be)!!!

  • Comment 31, posted at 16.01.19 13:11:31 by JD Reply
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  • I see Louis Schreuder has been appointed captain for Super Rugby. Ryan Botha can’t be too happy with that…but I reckon it’s a good move?

  • Comment 32, posted at 16.01.19 14:45:38 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 32) : Ruan Botha played some of his worst rugby as captain so maybe he is happy…or requested to step down

  • Comment 33, posted at 16.01.19 15:44:06 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 22) : I can see Kobus playing centre too but yes let the centres be centres unless it can’t be helped or we have a sudden revelation by one of the other guys.

  • Comment 34, posted at 16.01.19 17:46:06 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 33) : Agreed , this might be the right career move for him. If he kept building his initial form he’d be a shoe in for the bok spot.

  • Comment 35, posted at 16.01.19 17:49:01 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 34) : this squad is informative but we cant read too much into it, Kobus can definitely help out at centre if needed though

    @SheldonK (Comment 33) : Ruan did seem to struggle when he captained in SR, he did ok when Captaining in the 2017 CC

    the Botha and Lewies combo didn’t work that well, two talented players but too similar maybe

    it’s tough to get Squad balance just right, a few years ago we had tons of exciting FH options and very poor lock options (as lewies was injured, Mouritz Botha and Marco Wentzel were over the hill, Hyron was still very young at that point, though he had a few SR games as we didn’t have any choose but to play him.

    Tyler Paul is our most effective 4, but lets see what GK can do in SR

    Now we have tons of exciting lock options and FH depth could be a issue (Robert, Curwin, LS, Andre the Giant in that order)

    We need to stop calling for a fetcher to be bought as it seems for years now that the team prefers to play with big blind side looking guys or converted 8′s. the closest we have is Stringer and his been ok thus far, he looked more effective for WP

    We should have a decent Super Sport Rugby Challenge team

    Finally, Really happy to see Ryno smith in pre season, that kid has talent, only issue is we have tons of back three depth

  • Comment 36, posted at 17.01.19 10:34:50 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 36) : Yeh its definitely going to be interesting. I would assume Paul and Botha would be the starting locks but Koegelenberg and Andrews pushing for a spot as well. And dont write off the youngsters in Van Der Mescht and Evans. I agree with the 6 position, Sharks will pick a big player there. AT flyhalf Rob will play unless he is injured, and if he is then Bosch will play. I cant see where Rhyno Smth would fit into the match day 23 to be honest even though i like him as a player.

  • Comment 37, posted at 17.01.19 11:38:05 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 36) : I see there is talk of the refs concentrating on body position at ruck time this season. I’m not sure though, if that’s for the NH or everyone. Supposedly the law states that the player trying to steal the ball before the ruck forms must have his shoulders above his hips, if not, will be penalised with a free kick. If this is clamped down on, I can’t see players trying to win the turnover much any more, because the “new” body position would open him up to head injury. My point is, I also can’t see much of a role for a Brussow-like player in the side then…

  • Comment 38, posted at 17.01.19 17:01:08 by Karl Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 38) : Interesting will it be classified as off the feet at breakdown?

  • Comment 39, posted at 17.01.19 18:05:30 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 39) : Doubt it. Off the feet is penalised with a penalty, where with the shoulders-below-the-hips this g, it’s only a free kick offense. The most surprising part for me is that apparently this has always been a rule, so the refs have only been told to concentrate on it more, yet I have all my years of playing, watching and coaching, I have never seen it being blown!

  • Comment 40, posted at 17.01.19 18:32:09 by Karl Reply

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  • https://www.alloutrugby.com/jackler-marx-illegal-2019/

  • Comment 41, posted at 17.01.19 18:36:20 by Karl Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 41) : This is the article on alloutrugby

  • Comment 42, posted at 17.01.19 18:36:46 by Karl Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 42) : interesting stuff

  • Comment 43, posted at 18.01.19 09:10:47 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • I see they say Patrick Lambie is hanging up his boots – too many hits to the noggin.

  • Comment 44, posted at 18.01.19 10:37:16 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Karl (Comment 38) : @coolfusion (Comment 39) : @revolverocelot (Comment 43) : ja one of those rules that the refs just stop penalising for just like the backline that must stay 5 meters away from the scrum (seems to only apply to the defending team), jumpers being played in the lineouts, scrummies putting the straight into the scrums, players before the ball at kick-offs, etc etc etc!!!!!!!!! All rules of the game that seems to not apply although it still found in the rule books!!!! :x

  • Comment 45, posted at 18.01.19 13:31:01 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 45) : I suppose world rugby realised at some point that their rule book is wayyy too thick, so only pick a handful of rules per season…

  • Comment 46, posted at 18.01.19 14:34:30 by Karl Reply

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  • Well all I can say is that refs can’t even police the basic rules that are 100 years old, this will only add to the frustration they already cause with bias and ineptitude.

  • Comment 47, posted at 19.01.19 07:52:17 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 46) : yip also have that idea!!!

  • Comment 48, posted at 21.01.19 09:31:43 by JD Reply
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