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Where are we at?


Written by Henk Terblanche (Bokhoring)

Posted in :Super Rugby on 11 Mar 2019 at 10:12

After the disappointment at Loftus, perhaps time to take a few deep breaths, step back and consider the state of our season so far.

After the first four rounds this is what the log looks like:

Team Pos. P W L D PF PA PD BP T BP -7 BP Ttl
Crusaders 1 4 4 0 0 141 84 56 1 0 1 17
Bulls 2 4 3 1 0 119 56 63 1 0 1 13
Rebels 3 3 3 0 0 87 72 15 0 0 0 12
Hurricanes 4 4 3 1 0 110 92 18 1 0 1 13
Sharks 5 4 2 2 0 96 70 26 2 1 3 11
Highlanders 6 4 2 2 0 107 107 0 0 2 2 10
Waratahs 7 3 2 1 0 78 67 11 0 1 1 9
Jaguares 8 4 2 2 0 105 103 2 1 0 1 9
Lions 9 4 1 2 0 101 104 -3 0 1 1 9
Stormers 10 3 2 1 0 38 68 -30 0 0 0 8
Brumbies 11 4 1 3 0 120 123 -3 1 2 3 7
Blues 12 4 1 3 0 76 93 -17 0 2 2 6
Sunwolves 13 4 1 3 0 90 119 -29 0 1 1 5
Reds 14 3 0 3 0 60 86 -26 0 1 1 1
Chiefs 15 4 0 4 0 87 171 -84 0 1 1 1

Looking at the log it is pretty certain that the Crusaders will be around the top of the log at the business end of the season. So the smart money must be on them to collect another title.

Sitting in 5th place all is not lost for the Sharks and there is still time to pull the season around. The question is how to go about doing it.

The Sharks can follow the Bulls example and revert to the Jake White playbook. The Bulls pressure their opponents into making mistakes, kick intelligently and either use the boot of Pollard to inflict death by a thousand cuts, or when it is on use players like Specman and Kriel to score tries. This strategy relies on a strong offensive defense that has managed to put away all three their SA opponents. Their forwards are also exhibiting very impressive handling skills to quickly transfer turnover ball to the dangermen on the outside. The question is whether they will be able to contain the Crusaders and Hurricanes and the resurgent Australian sides – especially when playing away.

The Sharks clearly want to play attacking rugby, and they already had 2 bonus points in the bag after round 2. All the more noteworthy that these games were both played in terrible heat. However since then the attack has looked decidedly pedestrian against the Stormers and Bulls defense.

In my opinion effective attacking rugby relies on the two M’s – generating Momentum and creating Mismatches.

In order to generate momentum with ball in hand against a strong defense, you really need to work hard. Momentum starts in gaining millimetres which then build into centimetres and metres, and then hopefully in a result on the scoreboard. I think this is where especially our forwards as a unit is coming short. They will need to up their work rate. Players need to work to get into the right places on the field, but we too often saw our attacking players being swamped by blue defenders.

The second issue for me is that Momentum requires Velocity. A 130 kg player that can bench press over 200 kg at zero velocity still has zero momentum. Players too often receive the ball from a standing start. Doing that in the face of some serious defensive line speed (often very suspicious, but that is how the refs are blowing it) is just asking for trouble. I would like to see more players running onto the ball from depth and also using different angles.

Then thirdly when rucks are formed, the ball needs to come out much faster for the next phase of attack to build on the bit of momentum that has been gained. You want to have the players run at a defense that is backpedaling – even if it is a couple of centimeters.

Lastly and probably most importantly you need to hold onto the ball if you want to build momentum. All good work is immediately undone if the ball is spilled.

There are obviously also ways of unlocking defenses via a clever kicking game, varying the point of attack, making the correct decision in each situation, etc. I wanted to focus on how one wins the gain line battle.

 



88 Comments

  • Thanks for the article I agree with everything you have written regarding the lack of momentum and we are not suddenly going to generate it against decent packs with the same players. We can try go more aerial and rely on our defense because we cant boss games that is where we are but Rob isnt really that type of 10 and if we play bosch at 10 we have to play ryno at 15 and he is not looking competent.

    All is not lost we will still most likely finish 8th but with 2 losses already on the board we would need to maybe lose only one more this year to have a realistic chance of winning super rugby and thats unlikely.

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.03.19 10:48:08 by Byron Wright Reply
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  • Problem to me is 3 of our main players think they are in Europe already..thought Dan played well but Akers and rob should rather just go to sale now already cos they clearly dont wanna be here anymore

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.03.19 11:08:41 by sharkbok Reply
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  • @sharkbok (Comment 2) : I dont think those three played badly but what message is it sending to have so many of your players signing with overseas clubs during a season? We won 2/2 before the announcement and lost 2/2 since.

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.03.19 11:12:07 by Byron Wright Reply
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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 1) : Even in that pack we have a couple of guys that can get us going forward – e.g. Akker, Dan, Coenie, Thomas. Getting Paul and JLDP back would also assist in that department. Hopefully the Ginger Ninja is still on our books – he could also add real value.

    I still think just by getting the current pack to work more as a unit with a couple of adjustments we will get better results.

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.03.19 13:54:41 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 4) : Yes you are right there should be enough grunt to at least look a bit better. Maybe the work ethic hasn’t been as good as It can be. I think phillip is due back about the same time a Jean luc and paul so we could inject some real quality but we need to be there or thereabout in two months time.

    Is Stringer injured? I really have never seen what Vosloo offers.

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.03.19 13:57:53 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 4) : Even if we can sort out go forward on momentum that only adresses on phase of play. These guys seem to have no other plan than crashing forward (which as you pointed out they don’t even execute properly) after crashing several time and the defensive wall getting more consolidated but also less permeable with each crash, there seems to be no further plan or larger plan/strategy to capitalize on that tactical move. We simply keep on bashing? It defeats the purpose 9 times out of 10 unless your up against weak and disorganized defense. You crashed crashed and disrupted them by forcing consolidation and shallow lines….now what? Sharks have no follow on tactics to that.

  • Comment 7, posted at 12.03.19 11:13:36 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 7) : One phase of play I meant to say.

  • Comment 8, posted at 12.03.19 11:14:56 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I agree with both bok and Byron. Yes we’re terrible at getting go forward because we cannot generate momentum most cases and yes we should rely less on that tactic since obviously do suck at it. Crash less, distribute or kick faster and more often. Crashing 5 times and losing more momentum each time and ultimately getting tackled back anf losing the ball. That’s been the song for the past 2 weeks.

  • Comment 9, posted at 12.03.19 11:19:11 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 9) : We have been varying halfhearted crashing with shoveling the ball sideways in the face of a committed spread out defense. Neither worked for us. Attacking kicks have paid some dividends but even then we have surrendered the ball more than we gained.

    What I am trying to get at is that our attack needs to be sped up – both with players hitting the ball at speed and at clever angles, faster clearing of rucks and having more options available for the offload / next phase.

    If you can put the defense on the back foot by either having to retreat or having to re-organize, then your decision makers (LS, RobJr, Am, etc.) can start manipulating the weak points or find empty space to kick into.

  • Comment 10, posted at 12.03.19 11:40:54 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Loosehead (Comment 6) : Damn it, Ward should be more judicious and have dropped that Marius van der Westhuizen on the pip, could have maybe reversed some of his childhood traumas.

  • Comment 11, posted at 12.03.19 12:23:56 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 9) : @coolfusion (Comment 9) : With our current locks and without Paul and Jean Luc we just don’t have the players to play such a one dimensional game because we don’t dominate physically. We cant really play wide because we also don’t have speed in the pack. I think you are correct that we need to be kicking more both attacking and defensively and try and crash in a slightly wider channel so there is some variety. I think we also need some more motivational speeches from Gary like we needed at a similar time last year.

  • Comment 12, posted at 12.03.19 12:33:28 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 10) : That shoveling was giving me a heart attack against the bulls seemed so similar to the stormers intercept.

  • Comment 13, posted at 12.03.19 12:34:51 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • The other time you have more space is from first phase, but then your forwards also need to give you a solid platform.

  • Comment 14, posted at 12.03.19 12:44:29 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 14) : I though we were getting a raw deal in the scrums from the ref so hopefully that is ok. Our line-out was fair but the maul was not a weapon at all.

  • Comment 15, posted at 12.03.19 13:00:44 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 15) : Due to this lottery with ref decisions at scrum time I would prefer if scrum penalties are replaced by awarding a free kick / new scrum to the non-offending party (in the ref’s view) 10 meters beyond the offending scrum. An scrum offense by the defending team on the 5m line would still result in a penalty.

  • Comment 16, posted at 12.03.19 13:53:02 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 16) : That is an excellent Idea push over opportunities remain in the 5/10 meter but everywhere else we limit another are for a ref to “interpret” . I also would like to see them work on how long the players take to set a scrum. I counted one against the bulls took nearly two minutes to engage that is without a collapse.

  • Comment 17, posted at 12.03.19 13:58:59 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 14) : Which currently does not happen or we overplay it and lose initiative.

  • Comment 18, posted at 12.03.19 14:20:52 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 18) : We scored an excellent try from a scrum against the Sunwolves

  • Comment 19, posted at 12.03.19 14:30:49 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 19) : Yes we did. Which shows me the guys have the depth if experience and capabilities to vary their play and be successful at many facets and tactics. It’s just a shame it’s not used to full effect. This is what pisses me off about the last two losses. These guys can do more than one trick.

  • Comment 20, posted at 12.03.19 14:35:00 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Is it only me that sees that our game always looks to have more rhythm, momentum and fluidity when the forth son .. Lious Schreuder comes off? Cameron Wright and Grant Williams give us fluidity. Watch what happened in the last 4 games when Lious Du Preez came off. Nick Mallet and Naas like saying 70 to 80% of your game is selection and the other 20 to 30% is coaching and preparation. Selection was also an Allister Coetzee blind spot. He may look good on the pitch but under match situation it’s something else. The gap between the 3 Bok scrumhalfs and him is so huge. Lious strikes me as a player that looks out for himself first, he would rather take 3 seconds longer to ensure that his pass is good or his box kick is good therefore impressing Rassie but killing our momentum. He forgets that Rassie is no fool and understands where momentum is lost or won..good quick rucking by one or two players, ball presentation by the player that went into the tackle and the speed of the scrumhalf to get the ball out before that ruck is compromised. Faf and now the Bulls scrumhalfs are excellent at this. If your scrumhalf is there it’s much easier for the ball carrier to quickly present the ball.

  • Comment 21, posted at 13.03.19 02:42:10 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 21) : One thing that stands out for me in your comment that makes little sense… If he’s taking the extra bit of time to ensure his pass or box kick is spot on, could that not be seen as being meticulous and ensuring he’s being accurate for the team? I agree that we need quick ball from certain rucks to unlock the defence, but it seems you have a personal dislike for Louis.

  • Comment 22, posted at 13.03.19 06:41:38 by Karl Reply

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  • Chiliboy pleads innocence: ‘I’ve done nothing wrong’
    2019-03-13 07:01

    Cape Town – Sharks hooker Chiliboy Ralepelle has pleaded his innocence as he finds himself at the centre of another doping investigation.

    Reports broke last week that Ralepelle had tested positive for a banned substance on January 17 after a random drugs test was undertaken at Kings Park.

    It was the third time in the 32-year-old’s career that he had allegedly tested positive for an illegal substance.

    Ralepelle had tested positive for methylhexanamine on the Springbok end-of-year tour all the way back in 2010, though it was later revealed that those tracings existed in some of the supplements supplied from the Boks themselves.

    Then, in 2014, Ralepelle was given a two-year ban after testing positive for the anabolic steroid drostanolone.

    This time, though, Ralepelle insists he has done nothing wrong.

    Speaking on Tuesday night on respected sports broadcaster Robert Marawa’s radio show, Marawa Sports Worldwide, Ralepelle said the substance that had been found in his system was Zenarol and that it was perfectly legal.

    Zenarol is a growth aid for livestock.

    “The Sharks have come out and said they are willing to support me as far as they are able to,” Ralepelle said.

    “Once you know you’re not guilty of anything, you’re at peace with yourself.

    “I know I did not take anything to the detriment of my career. I got offered a three-year contract at the Sharks and I asked for a six-month contract, because I have other plans.”

    What is going on here?

  • Comment 23, posted at 13.03.19 07:41:31 by Loosehead Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 22) : You have it right the speed needs to come in the delivery to the backline not the backline going half cocked getting rid of it. Yes Cam has a quick pass but Schreuder is not on the opposite side of the spectrum he is only slightly slower so there is not so much loss there. The forwards need to release quicker and protect their pivots. It happens so many times in loose play and especially our overworked malls where they lose momentum completely and hang on too long they either lose the ball in turnover or ref penalizes them or if they are lucky it’s a a hasty and pressured release. Just one example but it happens in other facets too.

  • Comment 24, posted at 13.03.19 08:10:31 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I reckon the team spirit is gone since Du Preez X 2 and Akker announced they leaving if that is the case then maybe tell them to go now. We can use the freed up salaries to sign Stander from WP and resign Burden. Also lets try get Bernhard Jansen Van Rensberg back. We just need a good blindside then. At least we start the rebuild now since this season is gone. Who can we get to play 7? What about Coetzee from province he can play across the loose trio?

  • Comment 25, posted at 13.03.19 10:01:43 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 24) : So you saying the Sharks forwards spend too much time shopping? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 26, posted at 13.03.19 10:45:32 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 25) : I reckon the coaching staff must first evaluate the attacking structure that is being used when playing against a committed organized defense. And also better monitoring of players’ work rate.

    You can get whoever and if they play in an unsuitable structure nothing will change.

  • Comment 27, posted at 13.03.19 10:49:06 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 27) : You are correct I think the players work rates haven’t been good which is an indication of team spirit.

    I appreciate that the attacking structure isn’t working and different players are not going to fix that but I am looking at the changes to try an improve the team spirit and desire and also try add some depth and balance.

    I envisage a new coaching structure next year so will be good to have the Du preez problem solved fully before then. We short two flyhalves once Rob leaves and a Blindside flank once Jean Luc goes, we may as well see who we can get in now in exchange for getting rid of players with one foot out the door.

    We still going to need a lock but we can look who is left post WC. Lets start looking at this like the lions have. We cant really hope to win Super Rugby once we have lost 2 before we even tour so lets get the jump on our next 3/4 year plan.

  • Comment 28, posted at 13.03.19 11:04:33 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 27) : Agree fully with that view. It needs to be sustainable otherwise the rebuild all the others went through counts for little and it leaves the new talent up the creek.

  • Comment 29, posted at 13.03.19 12:33:50 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 26) : That an effective analogy :)

  • Comment 30, posted at 13.03.19 12:35:39 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 30) : Or maybe we should contract them to sabs since crash testing seems to be to their liking :)

  • Comment 31, posted at 13.03.19 12:36:40 by coolfusion Reply

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  • But I do agree some culture and team talk is needed. Maybe they aren’t convinced of the quality side I think they are.

  • Comment 32, posted at 13.03.19 12:39:07 by coolfusion Reply

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  • If we look at the work these guys put in we know it’s not a lack of work ethic, they work damn hard. It just not effective.

  • Comment 33, posted at 13.03.19 12:44:32 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 22) : You miss understanding what I’m saying. I’m not questioning the speed of the actual pass. His speed of the pass is actually fine, I have no problem with it. My issue is the time it takes from when the ball carrier lands on the ground to the time the ball runner gets the ball in his hands after the scrumhalf has passed it. To further clarify what I am saying, read Dobson’s comment after they beat the Lions. He said Herschel Jantjies (scrumhalf) increased the speed of clearing and passing the ball by up to 4 seconds (could be wrong with the number) per ruck. You then need to comprehend what 4 seconds going forward means for the attacking side and 4 seconds less for the defending side to organize themselves. I don’t have a personal vendetta against him, I just fail to understand why he gets to the ruck that X seconds late and then takes another X seconds to ensure that at least 6 forwards have arrived and they have worked the ball back to him where Cameron and the other scrumhalf don’t do that. Look how quickly Faf De Klerk and Aaron Smith get the ball out to the receiving player. If you then understand momentum and timing, the ball receiver starts to understand that they ball is coming out in 2 seconds and can therefore anticipate his run and the team starts to have momentum and rhythm. Remember Charl Macleod, he was able to do that hence we were able to keep the ball for long periods of time. I am sure you have read opponent coaches saying that the Sharks employ a slow stop start game. The team doesn’t have rhythm hence the above normal knock-ons, the disorganized look and feel. You get that right then you able to introduce variety to your attack – decoy runners, mismatches, pick up and goes, blind side attack, even an offloading game as an additional attacking weapon (not your core attacking option).

  • Comment 34, posted at 13.03.19 14:41:33 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 34) : I understand exactly what you’re saying, and I agree with you that momentum is of utmost importance, but I cannot understand why you would think that he’d be purposefully slow to boost his Bok stocks

  • Comment 35, posted at 13.03.19 20:35:03 by Karl Reply

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  • Peyper winning another game for the stormers, poor jaguares just not getting anything their way the second half

  • Comment 36, posted at 15.03.19 20:19:11 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Lewies is having a great game for the Lions

  • Comment 37, posted at 16.03.19 16:56:44 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 37) : Yet another ex sharks player doing well in Johannesburg. Seems like the coaching staff have turned the culture in Durban toxic. Too many players doing better after leaving KZN

  • Comment 38, posted at 16.03.19 17:03:08 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 37) : Nice fight back by lions second half. Good that they could change their plans when needed. Lewies has a good chance if getting back to the player he was when he started playing with Oosthuizen.

  • Comment 39, posted at 17.03.19 13:45:29 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 36) : Peyper is an embarrassment – to himself.

  • Comment 40, posted at 18.03.19 10:23:22 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 38) : Interesting observation which I have obviously missed. Which other Sharks players are making it big in Johannesburg and even more interested in knowing which Sharks players left the Sharks at the end of SupeRugby and the Currie Cup in 2018 – I presume there must be many but other than Lewies I cant think of any others – maybe April?

  • Comment 41, posted at 18.03.19 10:27:11 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 39) : Sadly that Lewies had been AWOL for a long time – lets hope he keeps it up.

  • Comment 42, posted at 18.03.19 10:28:10 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 38) : BTW Lewies has not left the Sharks – he is on loan to the Lions.

  • Comment 43, posted at 18.03.19 10:33:19 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 42) : Well a change is as good as a holiday. I think if he gets enough game time,and being in foreign environment he will stretch himself again, to higher standards.

  • Comment 44, posted at 18.03.19 11:27:01 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 44) : Maybe the Lions and Sharks can swap squads each year, afterall there are some good Sharks men running the show at the Lions these days.

  • Comment 45, posted at 18.03.19 11:43:31 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 45) : I can think if a few sharks players who could benefit from getting out of their comfort zone.

  • Comment 46, posted at 18.03.19 12:00:44 by coolfusion Reply

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  • So it seems Jacques Vermeulen has signed with Leicester Tigers, obviously Akker and the Dup boys have signed abroad as well, but Curwin and Beast have yet to renew their contracts for next year. Hopefully the Sharks have a plan in place for 2020…

  • Comment 47, posted at 18.03.19 15:30:45 by Karl Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 47) : I believe the Dup twins are leaving end of 2020 Super Rugby season

  • Comment 48, posted at 18.03.19 16:08:17 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 41) : My reference was much broader than the previous season. If you have a look at the lions squad the last 4 years you would be amazed at the amount of ex sharks and sharks youth group players in their set up. The cronje brothers and Whiteley are the first that spring to mind. Even pat cilliers no too long ago makes another example. So my observation was not just rdp snr specifically but mainly post plum and white era .

  • Comment 49, posted at 18.03.19 16:11:31 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 43) : So we should be requesting his return seeing that we paid for mapoes’ entire medical rehab. Good news that he is not lost entirely

  • Comment 50, posted at 18.03.19 16:12:40 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 47) : Is something up with sharks camp and management? Even Ralepele who should be grateful he even has a berth, asked for a short term contract 6 months since he has plans…

  • Comment 51, posted at 18.03.19 16:15:52 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 48) : Makes me feel a bit better!

  • Comment 52, posted at 18.03.19 16:27:02 by Karl Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 51) : I think all we can do is speculate, but at the moment, it sure looks that way. It’s not nice to be supporting a team where there seem to be issues in the cloaks though…

  • Comment 53, posted at 18.03.19 16:29:02 by Karl Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 43) : @jdolivier (Comment 50) : It seems Lewies has also signed an overseas contract for next season…

  • Comment 54, posted at 18.03.19 17:52:28 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Karl (Comment 47) : I read Vermeulen signed for Exeter Chiefs?

  • Comment 55, posted at 18.03.19 17:54:21 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 54) : Harlequins, I believe?

  • Comment 56, posted at 18.03.19 17:55:09 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @pastorshark (Comment 56) : Would be great exposure for him. Suppose we can’t begrudge him that. Sucks for us, but I suspected he wouldn’t come back. Not for long.

  • Comment 57, posted at 18.03.19 17:59:14 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 57) : Sharks having their own load shedding woes….

  • Comment 58, posted at 18.03.19 17:59:58 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 55) : Highly likely that I’m mistaken. But he’s signed in England nonetheless

  • Comment 59, posted at 18.03.19 18:10:39 by Karl Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 49) : Yes there have been many over the years and particularly from Pat Lambies crop – Mark Richards, the 2 Cronjes, Pat Cilliers, Michael Rhodes were all surplus when they came out of the junior ranks and going back a long way.
    My point in bringing this up is the perception that the environment at the Sharks is “toxic” and it is particularly being used by some to besmirch the current situation under Teichman and Robert du Preez. This is clearly not the case as if it was you would have players clamoring to accept whatever offers are available – this was not the case. In fact I think last year was a year in which we did incredibly well at a holding onto players in a damn tough environment.

  • Comment 60, posted at 19.03.19 11:01:24 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 58) : Not only us – all the big unions, get hold of a Rapport and have a look.

  • Comment 61, posted at 19.03.19 11:02:27 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 50) : Seems like the Sharks and the Lions have a good thing going between them these days. That Mapoe shafted us more than once, on the field as well.
    I remember wondering what was going through his head when he heard that Straueli was going to be taking up his poat at the Lions as it was under him that Mapoe pulled his stunt at the Sharks.

  • Comment 62, posted at 19.03.19 11:09:54 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 62) : He seems happy at the lions.

  • Comment 63, posted at 19.03.19 12:13:25 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 60) : Yes we did hold onto key players, but know it seems a lot are jumping ship. This could be due to national selection. Could still be environment at the union. Garth April didn’t paint a nice picture of his departure. Look at the pride and joy on schrueders’ face scoring his first try for us last season. Know look at the lackluster attitude currently. Something is not right in the sharks camp.

  • Comment 64, posted at 19.03.19 12:15:57 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 60) : I was led to believe that that the guys that left for the Lions were the players who were more interested in living the “Life” and took playing rugby second. Not just the ones named but a couple others.

  • Comment 65, posted at 19.03.19 12:27:51 by durbsguy Reply

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  • What picture did Garth April paint of his departure. The guy should be on his knees thanking his lucky stars that the Sharks even held out with, do you remember his indiscretions I think it was twice that his off field discipline and attitude got him in the dwang and the Sharks stuck by him then when others would have probably cut him loose.

  • Comment 66, posted at 19.03.19 12:40:44 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @durbsguy (Comment 65) : Yep, much the same as what I heard. No doubting their talent, I saw them play as under 21′s and they were good.

  • Comment 67, posted at 19.03.19 12:49:14 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Just an update of “where are we at?” = 8th

  • Comment 68, posted at 19.03.19 13:54:51 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 64) : I also get the feeling there is something up at sharks. I can’t substantiate it though. But yes the player movement could be normal attrition (by SA standards) it could also be a combination of that and some internal issues. Nothing to say both can’t exist at the same time. But we will need to see how it plays out. Sharks are good at keeping info from fans, sometimes that’s actually a good thing. However some feel the more credence we give to the “poisoned waters” theory the more it could become self fulfilling. However if it is true, that attitude may be tantamount to hiding your head in the sand. What does it benefit us to know ether way? Not like we can do anything about what is or isn’t transpiring.

  • Comment 69, posted at 19.03.19 14:00:46 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 68) : We’re more comfortable at 10 or 12. 8 is still too close to the top half of the logs.

  • Comment 70, posted at 19.03.19 14:02:06 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 68) : You are probably happier with that position than you were 3 weeks ago but guess what you can still win the whole damn competition from there. Rather wish a 14th or 15th spot for the team.

  • Comment 71, posted at 19.03.19 15:29:42 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 63) : Especially when playing against the Sharks.

  • Comment 72, posted at 19.03.19 15:31:16 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Just read an article about structures at the Bulls..what a breath of fresh air. Please do yourself a favour and read it. Alan is talking about the little things that the new Skills Department is going to work on or is working on for example…if the scrumhalf is not clearing the ball quickly, they work on the angles he runs and how he approaches the ruck or how players are channeling the back or presenting it for the scrumhalf, if a player can’t step on both feet or pass properly to one side etc..it’s those little things that make or break a team. I call it the attention to detail that I have always felt Rob Du Preez doesn’t understand. It’s his third year in charge and still doesn’t know where the problem lies and how to fix it (trying to be positive here). Let’s hope he read the article and will start to focus on the little things that will give the team rhythm and momentum. We too professional to do the stop start directionless game employed which is so frustrating for all stakeholders. Things can still be fixed and two weeks in rugby is a long time if you know what and how to fix the problem. I hope he also gets his selections right going forward. A player like Hyron Andrews just doesn’t have the strength to be effective at rucking and tackling. Pepsi needs to start ahead of many people that are currently playing ahead of him.

  • Comment 73, posted at 19.03.19 17:27:16 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • Also read the article about the Sharks… Richardo Loubsher is saying all the right things… don’t want to get too excited. Will watch closely over the next few weeks. I’m really hoping they have identified where we losing the battles which eventually cost us the war, and have paid attention proper attention to them.

  • Comment 74, posted at 19.03.19 17:51:00 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 66) : Basically said rdp is a dictator, back office staff do not offer support and that they are treated as boarding school brats not athletes. Never allowed to express creativity, everything had to be Rdp’s way or the highway.

  • Comment 75, posted at 19.03.19 18:50:46 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 73) : is that the same Bulls structures that is cutting about 100 contracts because they “over contracted” players?!?!?!

  • Comment 76, posted at 20.03.19 08:19:56 by JD Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 75) : “Coach Rob’s mood changes daily and there is no grey area for him. Sometimes a player doesn’t like it when the coach comes straight up to him and says, “Listen, this is what you are doing wrong.” With Coach Rob, there is no space in-between and it’s either right or it’s wrong. But I wouldn’t say he’s one of my least favourite coaches because I played a lot of games under him prior to last season. It was tough playing only once for the Sharks during the 2018 Super Rugby season,” – seems as if his perception of a coach is coupled to the amount of game time under that coach.

    ” I asked the Sharks if I could go to Japan during the Currie Cup and they said, “No, we are going to need you for Currie Cup.” And I was like, “Yes, but everyone else is going to Japan (after Super Rugby) so why can’t I?” And then they just said if I go to Japan then I don’t have to come back (to the union). So I said to the COO of the Sharks, “I would rather head to Japan than stay put because I’m not getting backed at the Sharks anyway!”

  • Comment 77, posted at 20.03.19 09:21:53 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 74) : Where can one read these articles?

  • Comment 78, posted at 20.03.19 09:22:31 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 77) : I’m guessing this is Garth April? Seems like a bit of a snowflake. Doesn’t like being told he’s done something wrong… And the bit about others going so why can’t he, sounds a bit like an 8 year old brat…

  • Comment 79, posted at 20.03.19 09:26:43 by Karl Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 79) : Yip, and the part about the Sharks needing him for the CC obviously meant nothing to him – it was his chance to make his presence felt.

  • Comment 80, posted at 20.03.19 09:54:32 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Officials for the Rebels game: Rasta Rasivhenge assisted by Divan Uys and Aimee Barrett-Theron, with Marius Jonker as the TMO.

  • Comment 81, posted at 20.03.19 11:35:14 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Karl (Comment 79) : @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 80) : I’m not really interested in what he has to say as I really don’t think it’s worth the effort and giving him any further exposure! Sad little man who wants everything to go his way!!! Just remember he is a Springbok!

  • Comment 82, posted at 20.03.19 11:43:01 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 82) : True!

  • Comment 83, posted at 20.03.19 13:57:38 by Karl Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 79) : Ja I must agree he holds no credibility with me either. He hasn’t pulled his load and at his best still looked like he may it may not make the grade. I would rather have let him go anyways look at Ryno Smith, patient disciplined and to me a much better 15 only thing April has is a more exercised boot. Which is clearly not enough for the modern nr 15.

  • Comment 84, posted at 20.03.19 14:18:44 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 84) : Maybe it was the quick rise through the ranks from club rugby that swelled his head a touch? Who knows…? I for one am glad he’s gone because he always felt like he was the Sharks’ own Earl Rose. The rugby Earl Rose, not the golf club Earl Rose

  • Comment 85, posted at 20.03.19 14:37:30 by Karl Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 85) : April was very good on his day. He had some great games for the sharks also its not easy to make it to the pros from the club system. He did seem to have an attitude problem though and that is unfortunate because he could have been a good player. He may still pop up somewhere as an older wiser player and deliver some performances towards the back end of his career that make us think what he could have achieved if he was prepared to work.

  • Comment 86, posted at 20.03.19 15:22:34 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 77) : Always two sides to a story, very evident

  • Comment 87, posted at 21.03.19 07:49:24 by jdolivier Reply

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  • https://m.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/craig-burden-included-in-sharks-squad-for-rebels-20190321 still persisting with Rob jnr

  • Comment 88, posted at 21.03.19 11:30:04 by jdolivier Reply

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