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Sharks team to face the Jaguares


Written by Jan Dyman (JD)

Posted in :Sharks, Super Rugby on 11 Apr 2019 at 11:06

Ok so the Cell C Sharks’ team to face the Jaguares at JONSSON KINGS PARK on Saturday afternoon at 15h05 was announced.

With the announcement some of the”missing” players have emerged with Jean-Luc du Preez and John-Hubert Meyer both named on the bench.

Beast Mtawarira, Coenie Oosthuizen and Jacques Vermeulen have all been rested for this match.

This means Juan Schoeman and Thomas du Toit will get a chance to start with Mzamo Majola and John-Hubert Meyer now covering from the bench. Philip van der Walt also start in place of the rested Vermeulen at flank.

The backline that did duty against the Lions is unchanged and will have another chance to show us just how good they can be.

Now the Sharks must just build on the good performance! Let’s just hope the Jaguares come to play rugby and not revert to playing “negative” spoiling tactics to minimise the attacking ability of the Sharks!

The Cell C Sharks

  1. Juan Schoeman
  2. Kerron van Vuuren
  3. Thomas du Toit
  4. Ruben van Heerden
  5. Hyron Andrews
  6. Luke Stringer
  7. Philip van der Walt
  8. Daniel du Preez
  9. Louis Schreuder (Captain)
  10. Robert du Preez
  11. Makazole Mapimpi
  12. Andre Esterhuizen
  13. Lukhanyo Am
  14. Lwazi Mvovo
  15. Curwin Bosch

Replacements

  1. Fez Mbatha
  2. Mzamo Majola
  3. John-Hubert Meyer
  4. JJ van der Mescht
  5. Jean-Luc du Preez
  6. Grant Williams
  7. Kobus van Wyk
  8. Aphelele Fassi


276 Comments

  • We will probably get a lot if incentive from them to slow our game down to a forwards fist phase war. We must just not get sucked into their plan. They know how dangerous we are in the back and will do everything to delay or trick us into delaying that connection with the backs. If we play too long up front they will just slow us down enough to force errors and disrupt/limit any attack strategies and options. They longer we delay the more options dissapear.

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.04.19 11:11:54 by coolfusion Reply
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  • I like the back row

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.04.19 11:12:06 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • I like the loose trio and the backs…I am a little bit concerned about the front row, especially late in the game…but the props had to be rested sometime and I am looking forward to seeing what the backup players will do.

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.04.19 11:16:22 by pastorshark Reply
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  • I was really impressed with Kerron van Vuuren last week. Those line-out throws were absolutely spot on and our scrum looked quite solid.

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.04.19 11:20:18 by jakkalas Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 3) : I would hate us to loose by a penalty because our scrum is demolished in the last 5 minutes. Sharks need to make sure there is daylight between them and the Jags – I can’t handle another close finish that goes the other way

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.04.19 11:27:15 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Thanks JD good to see Johnie is still around and fit. Great news on Jean Luc, may be the end of Vermuelen for now which is unfortunate because he has been in good form but he is also leaving at the end of the season.

    Would be nice to have paul back as a 4 but for now Ruben is going well.

  • Comment 6, posted at 11.04.19 11:39:46 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 6) : We’re losing Vermeulen as well? Wow we may as well call 2020 a fresh rebuild then. This team had better make their mark, it may be years before we’re back to this level again. And we will probably have a new CEO and head coach at that time too.

  • Comment 7, posted at 11.04.19 11:50:57 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Lots of changes, all very interesting stuff

    Jags have been similar to us this season, consistently inconsistent

    They haven’t plated as well as they did last year, I think it may be because they have one eye on the WC

    This season’s SR games are seemingly warm up and matches for them

    hope we don’t underestimate them though, they do have a top three in the world loosie in Matera IMHO

    Happy to see Mzamo and Johnny, heard they did well against the lions in last Friday’s warm up game, Still haven’t seen a full squad of who played in that warm up game, If anyone has it I would appreciate if you posted it.

    Super happy with Ruben, his a beast, hyron is a classic 5, he needs a bakkies to his matfield

    pleased at how multi skilled Stringer is, he adds balance

    Always happy to see the ginger ninja

    Looking forward to this game, however I may miss it as I’ll be hiking

  • Comment 8, posted at 11.04.19 12:44:19 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 7) : Yip Exeter chiefs. That is why I get so upset when results are poor it is really this year or try again in three years time.

  • Comment 9, posted at 11.04.19 12:59:16 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 5) : Or in the last minute…don’t want that again! That ismyconcern. But hopefully we can repeat what we did last weekend…

  • Comment 10, posted at 11.04.19 13:15:12 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 7) : Yup…is it Exeter Chiefs? Or something like that…

  • Comment 11, posted at 11.04.19 13:16:59 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 9) : Ah, so I was right… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.04.19 13:18:52 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 8) : Where are you hiking?

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.04.19 13:45:15 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Just me that would love to see what Pepsi and Stringer can achieve in unison the last 15 minutes of the game

  • Comment 14, posted at 11.04.19 16:31:59 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 14) : How would Pepsi pull that off?

  • Comment 15, posted at 11.04.19 17:32:50 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 15) : Just think that having 2 “fetcher” type running loose forwards at the end of a game would be beautiful, works for the aussies with hooper and pocock, I know Pepsi buthelezi isn’t in the lineup, just think he has an amazing future

  • Comment 16, posted at 11.04.19 20:14:54 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 13) : Tranquility trail via the pipe track, going up Corridor ravine and down Kasteelspoort. Looks like rain so it should be a fun hike. Tough being a Shark out here in Cape Town, but the great vibe at the sharks supporters club in Newlands makes it all worth while

  • Comment 17, posted at 11.04.19 22:04:08 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 16) : Well it would certainly help with the pace of the game and atm quick front foot with fast recycling seems to be one of our strongest plays. However that being said one must maintain a balance if big strong defenders/carriers line breakers. It would be interesting to see, if we have a bit of points buffer at the end of the game.

  • Comment 18, posted at 12.04.19 07:24:21 by coolfusion Reply

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  • On a more serious note:

    I’m thinking of immigrating to the Netherlands, have anyone had experience immigrating and could share some advice?

    There are no shortage of agencies it seems, wonder which ones are reputable?

  • Comment 19, posted at 12.04.19 10:08:38 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 19) : What are the age limits for NL?

  • Comment 20, posted at 12.04.19 10:29:25 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 20) : not aware of one, though I figure it will vary dependent on what type of residency application you apply for, will research it.

  • Comment 21, posted at 12.04.19 11:41:59 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 19) : Do you have any Dutch lineage – not counting Jan van Riebeeck or Simon van der Stel?

  • Comment 22, posted at 12.04.19 13:04:11 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Did anyone watch the Stormers game, I see they had a good 41-24 win over the Rebels.

  • Comment 23, posted at 12.04.19 13:29:03 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 23) : This SR season has to be the kookiest one ever…. how do you confidently predict any game this year?

  • Comment 24, posted at 12.04.19 14:46:28 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Maybe we can solve some player issues by moving Bosch to 10 and buying Israel Folau for 15. It looks like he will be in the market soon.

  • Comment 25, posted at 12.04.19 15:01:59 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Proper rollercoaster of results, sows doubt in us fickle Sharks fans for tomorrows game.

  • Comment 26, posted at 12.04.19 15:03:23 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 25) : and he might stay in the market for a while!!!

  • Comment 27, posted at 12.04.19 15:52:25 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 27) : I’d buy him if I was an SA union. 3 year contract with early termination penalty clause.

  • Comment 28, posted at 12.04.19 16:19:13 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Wether man says it’s going to be a nice moderate day tommorow at the tank. Let’s hope the boys have turned a corner.

  • Comment 29, posted at 12.04.19 18:11:21 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I’m lucky enough to be driving the Bell truck again tomorrow at King’s Park… The good news is that I don’t recall the Sharks losing when I’ve been there. Bad news is that I have probably (hopefully not) just jinxed them!

  • Comment 30, posted at 12.04.19 21:09:29 by Karl Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 30) : enjoy it and hope you get plenty of driving time!!!

  • Comment 31, posted at 12.04.19 22:40:24 by JD Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 28) : yes he’s a super talented player but can’t see any major team offering him a contract as it will attract to much negative attention.

  • Comment 32, posted at 12.04.19 22:43:35 by JD Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 25) : Leave Bosch at 15, pollard is in the market come October, with jnr going, we can maintain a semi physical fly half. Can’t anyone clone Henry honnibal please

  • Comment 33, posted at 12.04.19 23:27:33 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 33) : don’t think the Sharks have the “budget” to buy Pollard!? Anyway think if he moves from the Bulls it will be up north.

  • Comment 34, posted at 13.04.19 08:50:31 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 34) : Talk of a R 20 million a year offer by Montpelier – I doubt SA Rugby + any union can match that

  • Comment 35, posted at 13.04.19 10:31:34 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 33) : If someone just dedicates time to this kid (Bosch) and his weaknesses they will reap great rewards. Too bad that visionary coaches are in such short supply.

  • Comment 36, posted at 13.04.19 13:03:18 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 36) : Bosch is a thinking player, which is an asset, maybe get pat lambie too teach him some defensive skills, pat was small but tackled props like they were grade schoolers. Bosch just maybe a Christian Cullen type fullback if given enough time

  • Comment 37, posted at 13.04.19 13:33:33 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 34) : Almost certainly true, but hey east, west, home best. Maybe Durban steals his heart, wouldn’t be a bad thing if he was an option

  • Comment 38, posted at 13.04.19 13:34:37 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 30) : thats awesome

  • Comment 39, posted at 13.04.19 13:40:32 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 37) : If he was properly mentored I think he would be a huge threat massive line speed way more than Pollard yes slightly smaller but faster and more agile and you can use him at 10 wing and 15.

  • Comment 40, posted at 13.04.19 13:50:03 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Not great start from the Sharks so far

  • Comment 41, posted at 13.04.19 15:07:49 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Jags lead 7-0

  • Comment 42, posted at 13.04.19 15:08:56 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 41) : Yes a bit sloppy and disconnected. Let’s see if they can tighten up their focus

  • Comment 43, posted at 13.04.19 15:10:14 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Please oh please let this not be the inconsistent sharks of the start of the season

  • Comment 44, posted at 13.04.19 15:11:02 by jdolivier Reply

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  • The Hyde version of the team showed up today.

  • Comment 45, posted at 13.04.19 15:11:48 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Too many skip passes. Need to consolidate better. Get the rhythm first.

  • Comment 46, posted at 13.04.19 15:12:29 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Need to settle down, be patient and build some momentum first

  • Comment 47, posted at 13.04.19 15:13:26 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Good scrum boys

  • Comment 48, posted at 13.04.19 15:14:01 by coolfusion Reply

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  • They killing us at the breakdown. Need cleaners to be more accurate

  • Comment 49, posted at 13.04.19 15:15:01 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 49) : He gives them the penalty immediately but Stringer has held on to a ball legally twice now for 15 seconds and lets them play………

  • Comment 50, posted at 13.04.19 15:15:57 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Bosch makes the break and Andrews scores

  • Comment 51, posted at 13.04.19 15:16:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 50) : Unfortunately you need to adapt to the ref

  • Comment 52, posted at 13.04.19 15:17:35 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Bosch creating nicely again. Yes boys. Keep the focus level heads please.

  • Comment 53, posted at 13.04.19 15:17:49 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Need more players running onto the ball. Too much shoveling ball sideways for my liking

  • Comment 54, posted at 13.04.19 15:20:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 54) : Yes and even then not committing the defenders very one on one. We need spaces

  • Comment 55, posted at 13.04.19 15:22:41 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Last week we piled the pressure patiently for the first 20 this week we look like we’re trying to force too much too soon. They need to get themselves into their pace and rhythm evenly.

  • Comment 56, posted at 13.04.19 15:25:00 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Thank goodness the Jags are making plenty of handling errors

  • Comment 57, posted at 13.04.19 15:26:00 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Louis and Rob are not having the best games so far

  • Comment 58, posted at 13.04.19 15:27:08 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 58) : At least Robs kicking is better today. 10-7

  • Comment 59, posted at 13.04.19 15:28:20 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 58) : Louis not focused. Won’t help getting front foot and good cycle if he is sleeping on the job.

  • Comment 60, posted at 13.04.19 15:29:05 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 57) : You can say that again. It’s been our saving grace…

  • Comment 61, posted at 13.04.19 15:30:13 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Use the set piece….come on ..

  • Comment 62, posted at 13.04.19 15:33:27 by coolfusion Reply

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  • How the fuck did we loose the ball at that maul

  • Comment 63, posted at 13.04.19 15:34:26 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Just awful….

  • Comment 64, posted at 13.04.19 15:34:32 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 63) : Schreuder asleep didn’t see that hand coming over.

  • Comment 65, posted at 13.04.19 15:35:32 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 65) : His brain is full of molasses today

  • Comment 66, posted at 13.04.19 15:36:56 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Intelligent plays missing. Too much one off not using runners on in midfield need to adapt quicker

  • Comment 67, posted at 13.04.19 15:40:35 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Matera scores a try after error by the Sharks. Slack defending from the Sharks

  • Comment 68, posted at 13.04.19 15:42:27 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 14-10

  • Comment 69, posted at 13.04.19 15:43:07 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Woo-hoo back to fucking useless in one week. Damn it’s lovely supporting them. How can they be so amazing last week and so kak the next. Jags are doing fantastic work disrupting our rucks and we just repeat the same thing. Will never work

  • Comment 70, posted at 13.04.19 15:43:47 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Going through the motions with no real plan

  • Comment 71, posted at 13.04.19 15:44:22 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Sharks work rate has gone to pot today.

  • Comment 72, posted at 13.04.19 15:45:57 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Bosch shit scared of contact today, there is no way on earth that matera out paces him, didn’t even run flat out to defend

  • Comment 73, posted at 13.04.19 15:46:02 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Need to kick more. The hands are not there for ranged ball in hand attack

  • Comment 74, posted at 13.04.19 15:46:03 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Jags finding gaps in our defense at will. Another try under the posts

  • Comment 75, posted at 13.04.19 15:46:51 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 21-10.

  • Comment 76, posted at 13.04.19 15:47:24 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • We suck again boys. Welcome to the shark tank

  • Comment 77, posted at 13.04.19 15:47:39 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Wow the jags are making us look amateur

  • Comment 78, posted at 13.04.19 15:47:39 by jdolivier Reply

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  • These Sharks are something else

  • Comment 79, posted at 13.04.19 15:48:04 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 77) : Rob snr coached them this week and this is what it provides.

  • Comment 80, posted at 13.04.19 15:48:15 by jdolivier Reply

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  • And now the lineout goes to pot as well

  • Comment 81, posted at 13.04.19 15:50:48 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • The workrate is a joke. They put in the effort for beast last week but now its back to not care approach.

  • Comment 82, posted at 13.04.19 15:53:25 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • This is why I am so cautious about raving about them when they win cause I know in just 7 days time a C team could rock up. Was worried about resting Beast and Connie at the same time. Ginger has been crap at 7.

  • Comment 83, posted at 13.04.19 15:53:35 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • Bosch must take it up himself his line is letting him down. At least get the metres. No plan no structure sharks taking the day off again. Rob needs to bring out the whip in the dressing room, no time for subtlety they need a hard talk.

  • Comment 84, posted at 13.04.19 15:54:09 by coolfusion Reply

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  • We bad in basically every facet of play. Rob having another stinker as well

  • Comment 85, posted at 13.04.19 15:54:41 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • Whole team need to up the work rate drastically. Need more options on attack, more effective cleaning at rucks, players running onto the ball

  • Comment 86, posted at 13.04.19 15:55:16 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 83) : Slow and no plan I agree. Not leading at all and with Schreuder stuck in a daydream as well.

  • Comment 87, posted at 13.04.19 15:55:21 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Rdp Jr is again the worst player in the half. That last try was his fault. WTF. No one should turn around and walk away in slow motion leaving that gaping hole in defense. Come on. Wake up man.

  • Comment 88, posted at 13.04.19 15:56:11 by sudhir Reply

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  • I dont think snr can motivate them. Last week was for Beast

  • Comment 89, posted at 13.04.19 15:56:13 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • 68 possession and territory and we are behind 21-10

  • Comment 90, posted at 13.04.19 15:56:37 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Bring on Jean luc and van Wyk wish Cam was here today…

  • Comment 91, posted at 13.04.19 15:57:04 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 90) : How much of that possession lost ball and slowing down ball through indecision. Kickers need to get this ball up for us.

  • Comment 92, posted at 13.04.19 15:58:46 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 91) : Grant Williams is not bad, let him snipe around the ruck and have fun, can’t be worse than Louis and rob jnr combo

  • Comment 93, posted at 13.04.19 15:59:22 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 87) : that one doesn’t understand his role on the field. The pace of fluidity is driven by him. Last week he was on point and today he has gone back to taking a breather whenever he gets to the ruck.

  • Comment 94, posted at 13.04.19 16:00:18 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 93) : Ja I suspect your right on that one.

  • Comment 95, posted at 13.04.19 16:02:47 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Playing as a bunch of individuals and a number not pulling their weight

  • Comment 96, posted at 13.04.19 16:02:54 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 95) : We should wait too long to make those 3 subs.

  • Comment 97, posted at 13.04.19 16:03:32 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Great comments by nick easter

  • Comment 98, posted at 13.04.19 16:03:46 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Been playing in our half way too much

  • Comment 99, posted at 13.04.19 16:05:32 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Clearly no-one listened to Easter. Kak defense. Matera scores his second

  • Comment 100, posted at 13.04.19 16:05:52 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Ok that’s it. We have no desire to win this.

  • Comment 101, posted at 13.04.19 16:06:15 by coolfusion Reply

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  • We are officially in deep kak

  • Comment 102, posted at 13.04.19 16:06:24 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 98) : all talk as usual from the Sharks. We get a turnover and Andre kicks the ball away. The instructions are to play in their half as opposed to keeping the ball in hand.

  • Comment 103, posted at 13.04.19 16:07:03 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • Bosch just not interested in committing.

  • Comment 104, posted at 13.04.19 16:07:06 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 104) : Too much hype….

  • Comment 105, posted at 13.04.19 16:07:34 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Bring on Jean Luc Du Preez and the reserve scrumhalf.

  • Comment 106, posted at 13.04.19 16:08:03 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 103) : They just don’t get the instructions. I pity the coach…

  • Comment 107, posted at 13.04.19 16:08:23 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 104) : Defense non existent but at least he makes some breaks

  • Comment 108, posted at 13.04.19 16:08:29 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 106) : nd van Wyk. Poor defense in the back

  • Comment 109, posted at 13.04.19 16:09:08 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 108) : But that’s ALL he’s interested in…..

  • Comment 110, posted at 13.04.19 16:09:36 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Their halfbacks are streaks ahead of ours today

  • Comment 111, posted at 13.04.19 16:11:43 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Schreuder off now please. He has no idea what he’s there for just shuffling.

  • Comment 112, posted at 13.04.19 16:11:55 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Kak kicks from Rob and Bosch

  • Comment 113, posted at 13.04.19 16:13:19 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • That was no late tackle.

  • Comment 114, posted at 13.04.19 16:14:10 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 113) : Ja I take it back. We could have used a kicking game if they had any plan with them.

  • Comment 115, posted at 13.04.19 16:14:32 by coolfusion Reply

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  • A walk in the park for the Jags today

  • Comment 116, posted at 13.04.19 16:15:02 by coolfusion Reply

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  • 3rd penalty jags win after the initial player is cleaned……….. Ref really not looking at orange jerseys, Am also harshly penalised.

  • Comment 117, posted at 13.04.19 16:17:34 by jdolivier Reply

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  • A first for the season. Rob is pulled off

  • Comment 118, posted at 13.04.19 16:17:47 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Jags doing to us what we did to the Lions

  • Comment 119, posted at 13.04.19 16:18:32 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Last week was a fluke. I don’t think they even know how they got their rhythm last week. There are no systems in this team.

  • Comment 120, posted at 13.04.19 16:18:52 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • Game over

  • Comment 121, posted at 13.04.19 16:19:11 by coolfusion Reply

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  • 36-10

  • Comment 122, posted at 13.04.19 16:19:30 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • We got schooled

  • Comment 123, posted at 13.04.19 16:20:07 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Latest dictionary entry sharks : shit, pathetic, absolutely overrated, uninterested in fans great belief in hype.

  • Comment 124, posted at 13.04.19 16:20:36 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 124) : Players too

  • Comment 125, posted at 13.04.19 16:21:03 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Finally – Fassi scores

  • Comment 126, posted at 13.04.19 16:21:26 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 125) : Referring to the players

  • Comment 127, posted at 13.04.19 16:21:50 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 118) : his dad is saving face. His only protecting his son from further embarrassment. I wish Bosch gets this backline to move and win this game so we see the back of Robert Du Preez jnr for good.

  • Comment 128, posted at 13.04.19 16:22:19 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • Good work from Bosch

  • Comment 129, posted at 13.04.19 16:22:22 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 36-17

  • Comment 130, posted at 13.04.19 16:22:58 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 39-17

  • Comment 131, posted at 13.04.19 16:26:47 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Would not have taken Kerron off.

  • Comment 132, posted at 13.04.19 16:26:52 by coolfusion Reply

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  • So he pings our 16 50m away from the action, but never checks any chasers from them. I hate blaming the ref but this twat is on Jaco peyper levels of biased

  • Comment 133, posted at 13.04.19 16:27:13 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 133) : That is small in comparison with the fiasco the players have put on….

  • Comment 134, posted at 13.04.19 16:28:05 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Sealing off but side entry at every ruck

  • Comment 135, posted at 13.04.19 16:28:30 by byron Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 134) : Bud just check the last penalty against Dan, this twat isn’t helping, we are kak, as usual, but ffs they don’t need the help

  • Comment 136, posted at 13.04.19 16:29:31 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Free for all at the rucks

  • Comment 137, posted at 13.04.19 16:31:28 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • And hands in the ruck

  • Comment 138, posted at 13.04.19 16:31:51 by byron Reply

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  • Allowing hands in the ruck

  • Comment 139, posted at 13.04.19 16:32:15 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Side entry at every ruck by creevy, last ruck don’t play it, jags play it, and get the rewards

  • Comment 140, posted at 13.04.19 16:32:57 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Sharks have forgotten to tackle today.

  • Comment 141, posted at 13.04.19 16:33:49 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • One hit wonder team……..

  • Comment 142, posted at 13.04.19 16:34:18 by Rvw Reply

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  • Okes get paid to play only one game in the season

  • Comment 143, posted at 13.04.19 16:34:44 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Best defense in the competition up until now, how the mighty have fallen. Why do they do this to supporters. Yet again no balls, no imagination. Rdp snr please fuck off, then fuck off some more, then fuck off again. You’re not worthy of coaching

  • Comment 144, posted at 13.04.19 16:36:06 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 144) : A bunch of players need to fuck off along with him. No pride in the jersey

  • Comment 145, posted at 13.04.19 16:37:59 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 145) : The forwards and kobus can stay

  • Comment 146, posted at 13.04.19 16:38:54 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Guys, we had our fun last week. These are the Sharks. They are unprofessional and expect things to just happen. Can’t wait for all the excuses. I’m calm and hope I remain this calm this week.

  • Comment 147, posted at 13.04.19 16:39:02 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 146) : Most of the forwards were MIA today as well

  • Comment 148, posted at 13.04.19 16:40:03 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • How was that not a penalty try

  • Comment 149, posted at 13.04.19 16:41:19 by byron Reply

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  • This ref is utter kak as well

  • Comment 150, posted at 13.04.19 16:41:31 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 140) : agreed. But hey when you are playing against a team this disorganized then those calls will go your way.

  • Comment 151, posted at 13.04.19 16:41:54 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 150) : He needs to fuck off back to NZ as well

  • Comment 152, posted at 13.04.19 16:42:21 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @byron (Comment 149) : Because the ref is an asshole

  • Comment 153, posted at 13.04.19 16:42:31 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Geez ref … Side and side entry

  • Comment 154, posted at 13.04.19 16:43:21 by byron Reply

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  • If a player rucks over the ball you cannot just walk in from the side

  • Comment 155, posted at 13.04.19 16:43:57 by byron Reply

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  • It’s a penalty.

  • Comment 156, posted at 13.04.19 16:44:23 by byron Reply

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  • Wow jags play from offside after our players ruck over them well fucking done ref, Joel stransky can fuck off along with rdp snr, one eyed commentary at its best

  • Comment 157, posted at 13.04.19 16:45:13 by jdolivier Reply

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  • And that the is hinging.

  • Comment 158, posted at 13.04.19 16:45:58 by byron Reply

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  • I am done until there is a new head coach. Guys who think all is well can enjoy. I am out

  • Comment 159, posted at 13.04.19 16:46:52 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • And that the s playing the ball in the ruck and going off feet

  • Comment 160, posted at 13.04.19 16:47:18 by byron Reply

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  • And it’s a ruck

  • Comment 161, posted at 13.04.19 16:48:37 by byron Reply

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  • Woeful, gutless, lazy, stupid

  • Comment 162, posted at 13.04.19 16:49:45 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Worst Sharks performance in years just after the best Sharks performance in years

  • Comment 163, posted at 13.04.19 16:51:46 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Think I will take a break from watching Sharks games for a while

  • Comment 164, posted at 13.04.19 16:52:28 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • We will win the currie cup this year, that performance cost each player their Springbok chance. #bringbackplum

  • Comment 165, posted at 13.04.19 16:54:32 by jdolivier Reply

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  • #bringbackplum

  • Comment 166, posted at 13.04.19 16:54:49 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Done with Sharks. My family cant cope with me anymore.

  • Comment 167, posted at 13.04.19 16:56:11 by Rvw Reply

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  • Why do we blame the ref this game was lost at 50 mins. Earlier… mentally…

  • Comment 168, posted at 13.04.19 16:57:33 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 168) : We lost this at the 5th minute, there was nothing on display from any team

  • Comment 169, posted at 13.04.19 16:59:00 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 169) : Any one not team

  • Comment 170, posted at 13.04.19 16:59:18 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 168) : Winning is a habit, so is losing, if you’ve lost as often as the sharks with dubious refs, then getting more than one marginal call against you brings the doubt and the losing habit to the foreground, were we the weaker team today, yes, were we 50 points bad, no. Kobus touched the posts on his break, try for us, they steal 7 balls illegally, 50m up field each time. These make losing 20 something to 17 the farce of today

  • Comment 171, posted at 13.04.19 17:08:11 by jdolivier Reply

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  • After supporting this team for 30 years i think it is time to give up this was possibly the worst performance ever i felt ashamed to be a sharks supporter

  • Comment 172, posted at 13.04.19 17:29:36 by Adrian Allison Reply

     
  • So…I had a funeral this afternoon. And I got home to the news.
    I give up…

  • Comment 173, posted at 13.04.19 17:34:08 by pastorshark Reply
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  • Please don’t blame the ref for this pathetic performance, the Sharks were pathetic and the Jaguars completely outplayed us. The balance of the loose forwards was very off, it was almost like having 5 locks on the field and then another 2 on the bench. All they did was try and bash it up in slow motion. Need some speed in the lose trio, players running angles, tipping it on. Not just bash it up and hope to get over the advantage line. The sharks got matched physically and didn’t have anything else to offer. This is nothing new. The sharks finished 8th in 2017, 8th in 2018 and I’m expecting them to get that 8th and last playoff spot in 2019 again, then get knocked out after travelling to play the crusaders. There has been no improvement in this team since Rob Du Preez took over. Bring in a kiwi coach. The Sunwolves coach Tony Brown should be free after next season. Or shop around, the coaching is pathetic.

  • Comment 174, posted at 13.04.19 17:47:23 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • @Rvw (Comment 167) : Try to keep calm. They actually not worth the emotions. We rant and rave and end up stepping on each other’s toes whenever such happens. Maybe a different approach is required…guys go to the stadium but instead of coming in.. they stay in the parking lot. Freeze Sharksworld for the rest of the season etc… getting pissed off is just not good for our health especially seeing that this team is not serious about us. Missed tackles, rucking and cleaning is an attitude thing. There were many tackles missed by the Sharks?

  • Comment 175, posted at 13.04.19 18:10:55 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 173) : String theory bud. String theory…..

  • Comment 176, posted at 13.04.19 18:15:23 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Just wondering how much the team made betting against themselves at the bookies and dishing up this. Match fixing is alive and well and the sharks are leading the way

  • Comment 177, posted at 13.04.19 18:34:58 by jdolivier Reply

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  • I’m pissed off with the pathetic effort shown by most of the Sharks players today. That display was disrespectful to the jersey and fans. I don’t mind losing to a team that is playing better than us on the day but to give up that easily is unacceptable. No commitment on defense. No structure or leadership on the field. Time to make the players accountable.

  • Comment 178, posted at 13.04.19 19:05:47 by sudhir Reply

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  • After a massive team effort last week, Sharks went back to Kung Fu movie villian rugby. Where the hero is surrounded by 15 villians where 14 politely wait while 1 is dispatched by the hero.

  • Comment 179, posted at 13.04.19 19:09:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • worst game i have been to in years.
    We played appallingly,our backline tackling was abysmal,Bosch and Fassi can’t play together, they are both seriously ineffective tacklers.
    Schreuder is another enigma his service is pedestrian, our replacement front row were an embarrassment .
    But having said that the Argie 10 who i think is only 19 had one of best games of rugby i have seen in all my years at KP
    He was magnificent, saw him last week come on the field in his first ever Super game against the Bulls,immediately catch ball and score and then convert it,7 points in 2 minutes of play.
    Good to see Jean Luc back otherwise what seriously shit afternoon.

  • Comment 180, posted at 13.04.19 19:13:17 by The hound Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 164) : @pastorshark (Comment 173) : sad to say but I also reached the RobOtto point!!! Will always love the Sharks but can’t take this type of performances anymore!!! Think it’s time to step away and take a break!!!

  • Comment 181, posted at 13.04.19 19:20:50 by JD Reply
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  • Sigh…

  • Comment 182, posted at 13.04.19 19:32:35 by pastorshark Reply
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  • @RuckingFun (Comment 174) : a team does not have 60 Percent possession and territory and end up 50+ poi ta down without assistance.
    Ref completely got the rucks wrong today and he had no idea what was happening in the scrum. He referred no decision for review even when he was 40m behind play.

  • Comment 183, posted at 13.04.19 19:36:35 by byron Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 180) : Lol… shame, Louis doesn’t understand his role. I’ve always felt he thinks it’s about him. He takes his time, ensuring that the pass is perfect as opposed to speeding up the game and giving the team a flow and rhythm.

  • Comment 184, posted at 13.04.19 19:50:26 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • The Sharks are now firmly a meme. Other teams, even lowly teams like Blues and Chiefs put together two or three wins in a row, but not our boys, that would make too much sense.

  • Comment 185, posted at 14.04.19 08:49:03 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • Players need to be docked their April salary and made to pay back the tickets of those who came to support them.

  • Comment 186, posted at 14.04.19 11:07:00 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • There were quite a lot of people from our community at the game yesterday. Today at church I picked up something that the Sharks should be very concerned about. It is this: some of their biggest supporters are actually not even angry about yesterday; they are just like: I’m not doing that again…

  • Comment 187, posted at 14.04.19 12:54:00 by pastorshark Reply
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  • The management should show the team that played yesterday what every media article says about their performance. Not flattered at all.

  • Comment 188, posted at 14.04.19 12:55:32 by sudhir Reply

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  • Bosch and Fassi are always highlighted for their defense inadequacy but the worst offender yesterday was Rob Jr followed by Mvovo and Esterhuizen. Look back at the 1st 3 tries and you will see Rob watching the ball carrier run instead of tackling him first time.

  • Comment 189, posted at 14.04.19 13:04:08 by sudhir Reply

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  • If anyone on this site knows or can communicate with the Sharks management please ask them to get Fassi to stop doing that hop skip jump crap that he does. Thanks.

  • Comment 190, posted at 14.04.19 13:11:36 by sudhir Reply

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  • Congratulations to the Blitz Boks for winning the Singapore final after trailing the Fijians 19-0 and scoring 20 unanswered points.

  • Comment 191, posted at 14.04.19 13:33:37 by sudhir Reply

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  • @sudhir (Comment 190) : I know I’m harping on Schreuder. But if he had more direction and a plan there would have been less pressure on the backs and players wouldn’t have been improvising as much as they did. Even Rob who received some poor service from his scrummy and ended up with reduced options. A couple if times I saw the midfield standing dead still with no idea what to do with the kind of ball they got apart from crashing and trying to create out of nothing. A bunch of predictable skip passes trying to alleviate the congestion caused by pivots who were just shoveling and selling the midfield.

  • Comment 192, posted at 14.04.19 14:00:46 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 192) : I agree with you but these are professional athletes who know what they have to do on the field but just didn’t show the commitment and pride that was required. We had players jogging after their opponents once beaten whereas the jags never gave up. The van Wyk /Bosch kick ahead towards the end of the game is a great example.

  • Comment 193, posted at 14.04.19 17:38:02 by sudhir Reply

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  • @pastorshark (Comment 187) : I also decided that i’m not going to get upset about what happened yesterday. I can actually get my Saturday’s back cause I actually watch the other 5 SR games during that weekend to try see how the outcomes impact the Sharks on the log and whether we can beat them based on their strengths and weaknesses. In other words.. such a performance doesn’t just have a potential of affecting gate tickets at Johnsons Kings Park but affecting SR viewer numbers from our side of the world. I can really do better things with my time… find a new hobby.

  • Comment 194, posted at 14.04.19 22:47:06 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • Yowzer, that was a manic weekend.Still breathing though.

  • Comment 195, posted at 15.04.19 08:30:30 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • So we flew to Durban from Jhb and thought I’d introduce my 4 year old son and almost 2 year old daughter to live rugby in the same stadium my dad introduced me to my first live rugby game. They enjoyed the snacks, drinks, facepaint and shirts I got them. My daughter freaked out when she saw Sharkie, not in a good way but more in a holy hell what are you kind of way poor thing. They both enjoyed the run on the field afterwards and i could chuck a ball around with my kids on the grass like my dad did with me years ago.So the saturday wasn’t wasted in that aspect, very good family time and pretty sure they loved the place if not the rugby.

    That said, I thought we’re in for a hiding from the first ruck. Not one of the Sharks looked psyched to be on the field, it looked like we were down by 30 before kickoff looking at their body language. No urgency, direction or aggression shown at all. It’s sad to see the Jaguares just rip apart our defence as if there are none there, but the guys didn’t even try. The only reserve who looked like he gives a shit was Cobus van Wyk, who was energetic and you could see he’s giving his all.

    When the mass subs happened the crowd cheered when Rob Jnr was taken off which must suck for him. But looking at the bench when the starting guys came off were interesting (got tickets right behind the bench, first row). They looked quite sulky, just staring into the distance, not watching the game, not trying to support the guys on the field, no nothing. They started cleaning their space before the hooter and chucked full bottles of water and powerade in the trash which was interesting to say at least and each guy just took his own bottles, no more. Think the physio or doc did the final sweep to clear up the rest of it after they trudged off.

    I don’t know what happened during this week to lead to this but something surely isn’t right. If we have a mental coach they need to be fired immediately and if we dont, get one. Rob Snr won’t get his contract renewed and he knows it and he doesn’t deserve it. Let him see it out, don’t pay him out as we don’t have the cash lying around. Losing rob jnr this year will be a blessing actually, and when the twins go end of 2020 rob snr will lose all interest in the job in any case. I hope management has a succession coaching plan in place.

    The disappointing thing is that Rob Snr is going to make 3 changes to the run on squad. Coenie and Beast come back and Jean-Luc to start. He doesn’t believe in rotation as a policy as he’s playing the same guys into the ground same as last two years.

    My worst rugby memory is the bulls stealing the Super Rugby trophy from us and I was there to see it with my dad. I actually cried seeing it as it hurt that much. This thumping isn’t even causing a vague sense of disappointment. They’ve lost the right to expect anybody to be upset at them. No wonder the stadium is empty and you can buy golden zone tickets by the bucketfull at the game. Rob Snr hasn’t changed one thing since getting the job. Always big talk before the season, always the same thing during the season. No rotation, bad discipline on the field and big bursts of not giving a damn by the players.

  • Comment 196, posted at 15.04.19 09:24:04 by Dragnipur Reply
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  • @Dragnipur (Comment 196) : I rage quit as a supporter on Saturday and here I am crawling back onto the boards.

    I loved reading your comment because it is so close to my own experience. My dad has been as season ticket holder for over 35 years and took me to the game as a youngster and ever since. We too were at the 2007 game and yes the memory still hurts. I now take my daughter along to games and we always enjoy the atmosphere and the people. Thankfully we don’t go so much for the rugby on offer.

    After more than 35 years we took a decision at the start of this season to let our two gold zone tickets go. My dad addressed a long very polite letter to the sharks outlining some of our issues. He did not even receive a response. I am almost certain we would have kept those tickets if someone bothered to even give a basic standard response but no one even replied.After the losses started adding up he gets a call to ask if he is renewing his tickets this year. He was not pleased.

    Though many on here still believe all is well I do not.

    Province fan on a different forum suggested that Snr’s contract is until the end of next season and we don’t have the money to buy it out so buckle up chaps we get to enjoy more of what we have seen over the last few home games. It is clear to me that the lions game was the players playing for Beast but they will not play for Du Preez.

    On the Rob at 10 issue I have been pretty vocal on calling for him to be dropped but what damage is Snr doing to the chap when he exposes him to what we saw on Saturday where the crowd turned on him.

    Where do we go from here? Where is some feedback from the Sharks themselves on taking 50 points at home? How long are player out injured for? What is happening with Gary? Don’t think its just the players who no longer care it seems like the whole organisation.

  • Comment 197, posted at 15.04.19 09:48:33 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • Oh boy, I see its ladies day at Sharksworld again today. :twisted: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 198, posted at 15.04.19 12:04:05 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 198) : ha ha they dont call us Emoworld for nothing

  • Comment 199, posted at 15.04.19 12:07:51 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 198) : Clearly the players had a synchronized cycle on Saturday

  • Comment 200, posted at 15.04.19 12:38:14 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 199) : :lol:

  • Comment 201, posted at 15.04.19 13:00:38 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 200) : Nothing like being in tune with your brother players. :lol:

  • Comment 202, posted at 15.04.19 13:05:55 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Suggestion… if the guys can play that well for Beast against the Lions, shouldn’t we try Beast as captain again? Louis is just not working. From the outiside it doesn’t look like he has full control of the team.

  • Comment 203, posted at 15.04.19 16:19:09 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 203) : Question. If they played well for Beast one week and lose terribly the next. Should we assume they cannot find anything else but beast to unite them and play for? Not for each other not the jersey not the fans and most definitely not for the coach….

  • Comment 204, posted at 15.04.19 17:48:18 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I think the players need to find something to play for. Pastor is right there is a mental component missing and they need to address it. The talent is definitely there.

  • Comment 205, posted at 15.04.19 18:15:07 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 204) : i think it’s clear that they don’t like Rob and therefore don’t play for him, and are so poorly coached that they have nothing to fall back on when guys are 1 to 2 % off their game. Fleck may also be a kak coach but at least his players give him 100% every week. They get beaten by better coached teams. I have always said that with the Stormers you need to tackle and ruck them so hard in the first 20 minutes of each half that they lose belief and then the coaching and tactical flaws will surface. With us…. the coaching flaws are part of our DNA. So if one or two payers in key positions are not in the mood… the Sharks get chowed from the first minute of the game such that the opponent doesn’t have to have a sustained attack..I can see within 5 minutes whether we getting chowed today or not.. We then become our own worst enemies, dropped balls, dirty play, yellow cards, off the ball stuff, late tackles, missed tackles etc…

  • Comment 206, posted at 15.04.19 22:42:17 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • So Gavin Rich reckons Rob is set to start at 10 again this weekend to try and regain his confidence.

    Honestly if he wasn’t the coaches son would a coach really care when we are more than half way through the season and the player is leaving the sharks in just over two months?

  • Comment 207, posted at 16.04.19 08:34:13 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 207) : Once again, who do you want starting at 10 and who do you want at 15.

  • Comment 208, posted at 16.04.19 08:59:03 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 207) : Quick question – why did Sale Sharks buy him (it cant be because he is the coaches son, can it)

  • Comment 209, posted at 16.04.19 09:00:43 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 206) : Another stupid and simple question – were they poorly coached against the lions at Ellis Park?

  • Comment 210, posted at 16.04.19 09:02:39 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 210) : I want Bosch at 10 with Fassie at 15 not because Bosch is better at 10 than 15 but because Rob is playing terribly. I don’t even care if Andre plays 10. Rob has been so awful I am pretty sure beast could replace him at 10.

    We don’t really look at coaches on a one off game(a 50 pointer at home is difficult to ignore) or at least we told not to so then lets look at how we are doing for the season(a season that Rob said we would win the title and there would be no excuses if we didn’t) 4/8 and 1/4 at home that is pretty poor for a settled side with a settled coach. Add to that the lions game was also a celebration of a respected stalwart and we can see that the motivation for the lions game may not have come from the coach.

    Sale bought Rob because he is a good player. I am not denying that but he is playing terrible rugby and I don’t really see why we should continue to lose while he regains his confidence when he is leaving in two months? Is the hope that it comes back so he can challenge to start at Sale?

    So some questions here for you.

    Are you satisfied with the results? If you are not then what do you suggest is the issue?

  • Comment 211, posted at 16.04.19 09:17:09 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • Why do players have to play for someone else? What has happened to professionalism and pride in one’s work?

  • Comment 212, posted at 16.04.19 09:46:42 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 212) : i agree and a good management structure should reinforce that exact thing

  • Comment 213, posted at 16.04.19 09:52:27 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • Not a huge fan of Rob Sr, but I am putting this loss square on the players. We are talking about 23 highly paid professional adults here – not an U9 primary school team.

  • Comment 214, posted at 16.04.19 10:09:25 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 214) : You usually see that lack of effort from an unhappy side. This seemed like more than the usual we are the greatest after one win problem.

  • Comment 215, posted at 16.04.19 10:25:16 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 212) : That is first prize. However our argument is they don’t have that nor any of the other maybe lesser reasons either. Or so it seems. Remember our perspective is from the outside. Whatever the cause the problem is the same the outcome us the same. Even the assistant coach said at halftime last week they lack the desire…. really? Us that serious that you have a good team but have lost 3 games against lesser teams and at half time in premier match your coach points out you lack desire…that’s a BIG red flag…if not now, then WHEN do you plan on getting a fire lit under your arse? Fully agree they are professional players. It’s absolutely disgusting that they have to be begged and coaxed to do their job. Half time in a hard game and you just some how just can’t seem to feel the need to wake up…. pathetic…

  • Comment 216, posted at 16.04.19 10:33:55 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 211) : Am I satisfied with the results, damn right I was with the Lions win but was fully miffed with the Jaguars game, but Im also not so obsessed and eaten up with some form of negativity to realise that on any other day we would have beaten both the Stormers and the Bulls at home. Hey but thats just me.

  • Comment 217, posted at 16.04.19 11:58:18 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Just a thought, for all those that are stating it as fact that our Ellis Park performance was purely down to the guys playing for Beast then it means that from here on any game we play that includes Beast in the team we can expect similar results as from here on in every game that Beast plays will be a milestone.

  • Comment 218, posted at 16.04.19 12:01:37 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 217) : Stormers yes, but for some weird reason we have not managed to beat the Bulls in Super Rugby in the past 5 years

  • Comment 219, posted at 16.04.19 12:21:37 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 219) : I know – it sucks but I know that if the damn TMO had said that Dans try was legit we would have won that one.

  • Comment 220, posted at 16.04.19 13:12:14 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 211) : What is the issue????

    I would say a big part of the issue could be the general negativity, apathy and malaise of the Durban rugby going public – its just is not there anymore.Who wants to play in front of empty stands week in and week out – I cant imagine that it can be a pleasant and uplifting experience for players and fans alike.

    I would honestly consider playing all home games at a modified and upgraded Woodburn stadium in Pietermaritzburg. I think the crowds will come, it will be intimate and the players will feed off that.

  • Comment 221, posted at 16.04.19 13:18:15 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 221) : Ellis Park and Loftus are also empty. Have been for more than just this year. Yet lions have made semi’s.

  • Comment 222, posted at 16.04.19 13:30:45 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 222) : But you could have a point with the PMB stadium. They may just be starved for entertainment and the Burbs guys might consider going to the game a day trip road trip.

  • Comment 223, posted at 16.04.19 13:32:43 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 223) : Durbs even… not Burbs…

  • Comment 224, posted at 16.04.19 13:33:10 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 221) : I would be pretty keen for some games at woodburn but the lions made three consecutive finals playing in front of no one so i dont blame the fans.

  • Comment 225, posted at 16.04.19 13:42:27 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 225) : Yup. My point too, although I can’t recall how many of the finals were at EP, but the build up games to finals were definitely very little supporters.

  • Comment 226, posted at 16.04.19 13:50:24 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 225) : Even using MM stadium. It may attract even if just as novelty…

  • Comment 227, posted at 16.04.19 13:51:37 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 226) : a veey valid point. Yes MM would be novel but k went to the warm up game against bordeaux there and it was a disaster for kickers. The arch creates a funnle of wind that made one kick go about 5 meters backwards. They can pretty much play anywhere but when you take 50 points at home your fans arent going to keep paying to see it.

  • Comment 228, posted at 16.04.19 13:56:33 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 222) : @Byron Wright (Comment 225) : Yes Ellis was empty but as the season went so the fans started coming in. Also we must remember that the Lions players had been together for ages and were very used to playing for each other in totally empty stadiums.

    All stadiums are emptying out, even Newlands is battling but I think fortunatly for them the Lions, Bulls and Stormers can in many cases call on players that are historically from their feeder areas whereas in many cases the Sharks have to buy in players en masse (and when homegrown talent does comes along they are treated like crap by the fans – read du Preez) which would make their motivation that much harder when playing in front of smaller crowds.

  • Comment 229, posted at 16.04.19 15:45:54 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 228) : “Fans” are already not pitching. Maybe its time to call a halt to Sharks Super Rugby in Durban, I think far more purchase could be made by moving the franchise to Port Elizabeth, at least then half of the players can go home for the Sunday Roast.

  • Comment 230, posted at 16.04.19 15:58:20 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 229) : As this seasons went on the lions were already winning and kept on winning. Before and after the fan numbers started going up. Not win Lose win lose. The comparison does not hold dude.

  • Comment 231, posted at 16.04.19 16:16:39 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 231) : Maybe we’re better off comparing to cheetahs….

  • Comment 232, posted at 16.04.19 16:17:55 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 231) : Im not the one who brought the comparism up – you did but you said that they had constantly empty stadiums.

  • Comment 233, posted at 16.04.19 16:27:58 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Team release against Reds
    Cell C Sharks
    15. Curwin Bosch
    14. Sbu Nkosi
    13. Kobus van Wyk
    12. Andre Esterhuizen
    11. Lwazi Mvovo
    10. Robert du Preez
    9. Louis Schreuder (c)
    8. Daniel du Preez
    7. Jacques Vermeulen
    6. Philip van der Walt
    5. Hyron Andrews
    4. Ruben van Heerden
    3. Coenie Oosthuizen
    2. Kerron van Vuuren
    1. Beast Mtawarira

    Replacements
    16. Fez Mbatha
    17. Juan Schoeman
    18. Thomas du Toit
    19. Tyler Paul
    20. Jean-Luc du Preez
    21. Cameron Wright
    22. Marius Louw
    23. Aphelele Fassi

  • Comment 234, posted at 16.04.19 17:00:49 by Julesgr8ter Reply
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  • @Julesgr8ter (Comment 234) : And another start for Rob jnr, seriously

  • Comment 235, posted at 16.04.19 17:59:59 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 233) : Ja but doesn’t hold. They were still winning even in those empty ones. So they didn’t mind playing empty and still playing hard. :)

  • Comment 236, posted at 16.04.19 18:07:36 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 235) : You’re surprised? Now the du preez who should be starting is JL. Why isn’t he is he still carrying?

  • Comment 237, posted at 16.04.19 18:09:31 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Julesgr8ter (Comment 234) : The Sharks made a team announcement on a Tuesday???!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: Besides that shock, we have Cam, Sbu, and Tyler back from injury with no information provided at all. I see the Sharks well oiled PR machine is as strong as ever. :evil: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 238, posted at 16.04.19 19:08:43 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 237) : I agree, I would like to see JLdP start with Vermuelen “rested” and Stringer on the bench, or Pepsi, Dan has played every minute of every game if I’m not mistaken, and could use a rest. I don’t think Rob has ever used Phillip at 8 before, even though that is his best position, so I don’t expect he will move him to 8 when JLdP comes on, so expect Dan to play another 80.

  • Comment 239, posted at 16.04.19 19:14:13 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Luke Stringer should not have been dropped. He does a lot of the donkey work and is a great linking player whose pace also adds balance to the loose trio. Dan, JL, Vermeulen and van der Walt are all big heavy players who will be affected by the Durban heat. Rob jnr needs to earn back his spot and should have been dropped based on his recent poor performances. Ryno had 1bad game against the Bulls and has not made the squad since. Coach needs to take the criticism that is going to come if Rob has another bad day.

  • Comment 240, posted at 16.04.19 20:17:07 by sudhir Reply

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  • Dan has been playing the role JL normally does since the currie cup and has been the most physical player in the team. I would only rest him once JL has regained some of his form and match fitness.

  • Comment 241, posted at 16.04.19 20:26:54 by sudhir Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 238) : I was hoping the Sharks could tell us before the game which version (mentally) of the team they will be sending on the field, but I would settle for an injury report. Was promised one, but as most of these players are now back in action I guess Sharks PR decided it to be unnecessary.

  • Comment 242, posted at 17.04.19 08:25:19 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 242) : I don’t think it really matters against the reds. A decent supersport challenge side would beat them at home.

    A win wont really make much difference if we back it up with more losses, which is looking likely as we tour after this. The lack of injury updates to me is a sign of a no care, bare minimum approach from the sharks which is also manifesting on the field.

  • Comment 243, posted at 17.04.19 08:35:27 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 243) : You know you are talking about the sharks Right? Never say never.

  • Comment 244, posted at 17.04.19 09:06:44 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 244) : I know as I was typing that I was a bit nervous but I reassured myself that this is a win week and the rubbish comes next week again.

  • Comment 245, posted at 17.04.19 09:08:46 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 245) : Hmm it is long weekend so that might affect our “cycle” as well. Let’s see who shows up. I’ll give you my feedback who that is, after 10 mins into the game.

  • Comment 246, posted at 17.04.19 09:14:24 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 236) : Yep, that was my point exactly, they came from rock bottom (as a group) playing for each other in front of the grounds keeper and their dog.

  • Comment 247, posted at 17.04.19 09:14:36 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 238) : Friday game – I think they pulled the same stunt when we played the Lions.

  • Comment 248, posted at 17.04.19 09:16:01 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 246) : Thats true and the players will most likely be saving themselves for the easter egg hunt after the game. As you say it wont take more than 10 minutes to know. I was at the 5-6 loss against the reds years ago and I feel I may be put through that again.

  • Comment 249, posted at 17.04.19 09:17:57 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @sudhir (Comment 240) : I wonder if Stringer isnt maybe injured. Coach has got broad shoulders and a thick skin.

  • Comment 250, posted at 17.04.19 09:22:57 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 245) : Why the negativity – remember as long as Beast is in the team then the players will do it for him and the new milestone he reaches going forward. Let them enjoy the Easter egg hunt,

  • Comment 251, posted at 17.04.19 09:27:56 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Pastorshark can we please have the team thread.

    Leaving this important task up to anyone else but yourself is just jinxing the team (sorry JD, I know you did not mean it)

  • Comment 252, posted at 17.04.19 09:32:37 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 247) : That’s perhaps the key. Playing for each other is not something we do. The sharks for most players is a way station. There are only a few men who are true bloods the rest are earning a pay check it experience to go earn a better pay check. Sadly this is not the team and culture we watched claw their way out of the B leagues all this years ago. Last big the dying breed is leaving it left… Lambie Odwa Mvovo Beast Thomas of which Lambie and Odwa also gone and beast nearing retirement ….

  • Comment 253, posted at 17.04.19 09:57:01 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 253) : Sorry auto correct all over me today….

  • Comment 254, posted at 17.04.19 09:58:05 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 253) : There you go, and that ties in to my earlier post that when you are on “foreign soil” the empty stands make it just that bit harder to get into things. A full stadium of passionate supporters will at least lift and carry those already not fully in the fold. I really think that our rugby needs to move to a small, intimate venue to at least preserve the feeling of playing to a sell out crowd.

    I dont want it to be like this but the reality is that game day attendances are down year on year and something has to be done – I cant see attendances improving on a permanent basis so would rather look at other plans that will give the same feeling. Soon less is going to be more in the SA context of watching rugby.

  • Comment 255, posted at 17.04.19 10:10:42 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Julesgr8ter (Comment 234) : Where is Lukhanyo Am?

  • Comment 256, posted at 17.04.19 10:34:21 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • The lions 2016 final side had 4 home grown players.

  • Comment 257, posted at 17.04.19 10:42:53 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 237) : Possible, have to feel for poor Stringer too, he has been a breath of fresh air for the team. Very unbalanced loose trio again, with an out of form, low in confidence flyhalf, coupled with a scrumhalf that could make a cup of coffee between passes. Anyone remember the disgraceful 6-5 loss at kp some years back. Seems like Rob snr wants a repeat

  • Comment 258, posted at 17.04.19 11:05:32 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 258) : Now watch exactly the same team do something different…and completely flabbergast us all. This is not funny, it smacks of a huge problem in coaching, leadership, morale, discipline…..pick one, or many…..

  • Comment 259, posted at 17.04.19 12:10:55 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 257) :Quiete possibly, but how many from surrounding areas which have similar climates and cultures – the point with that Lions side is that they came from scratch together – they were castoffs / left overs and had only themselves and their team to play for.

  • Comment 260, posted at 17.04.19 12:41:23 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 259) : Maybe its just a 2019 thing – all teams seem to be going through it.

  • Comment 261, posted at 17.04.19 12:43:09 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • When are you guys going to start a fire the coach Facebook page again – it helped last time round? :twisted:

  • Comment 262, posted at 17.04.19 12:46:11 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 261) : Ja can’t argue there. At the moment I think you can take a consistent griekwas team and win SR.

  • Comment 263, posted at 17.04.19 12:51:01 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 261) : Crusaders have been pretty consistent as usual – 7 wins + 1 draw out of 9 games, 34 log points and PD of 121

  • Comment 264, posted at 17.04.19 12:58:06 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 264) : Ja but they dont count – who did they draw against?

  • Comment 265, posted at 17.04.19 13:34:29 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 265) : Draw was because of their match against the Highlanders canceled due to the shootings in Christchurch

  • Comment 266, posted at 17.04.19 13:38:00 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 266) : Ah, ok,thanks.

  • Comment 267, posted at 17.04.19 14:03:17 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • https://www.iol.co.za/sport/opinion/what-is-really-going-on-at-the-hot-now-cold-next-sharks-21479760

    Good read by a top Journo

  • Comment 268, posted at 17.04.19 15:54:49 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 268) : But all he does is regurgitate social media “gurus” thoughts – thats hardly top journalism from a top journalist – one would expect a bit of digging and concrete answers not just more speculation .Mike Greenaway is much better than this rehash of Sharksworld contributors thoughts.

  • Comment 269, posted at 17.04.19 16:54:36 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 259) : Option e: all of the above

  • Comment 270, posted at 17.04.19 17:15:29 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 270) : I think even the coach is saying “surprise me and play the things we trained”

  • Comment 271, posted at 17.04.19 18:10:27 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 271) : More like: Ignore the last 2 years of my coaching and do that stuff you did against the lions

  • Comment 272, posted at 17.04.19 18:20:37 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Ewn reports v Wyk is starting midfield with Essie?

  • Comment 273, posted at 17.04.19 18:31:24 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 272) : I don’t attribute last week to the coach.

  • Comment 274, posted at 17.04.19 18:33:07 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 274) : Not a single employee of the sharks came to the party last week

  • Comment 275, posted at 18.04.19 09:08:34 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 275) : True.

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