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Beast out with knee injury


Written by Henk Terblanche (Bokhoring)

Posted in :Super Rugby on 30 Apr 2019 at 16:11

Thomas du Toit starts at loosehead in place of Beast who reportedly flew home with a knee injury. Schreuder starts at 9 and captains the side, with Ruan Botha swapping places with Hyron Andrews (who has clocked up the second highest playing time after Dan du Preez). Mzamo Majola and John-Hubert Meyer come into the squad to deputize at loosehead and tighthead respectively.

15 Aphelele Fassi, 14 Sbu Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Andre Esterhuizen, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Curwin Bosch, 9 Louis Schreuder (c), 8 Daniel du Preez, 7 Jean-Luc du Preez, 6 Philip van der Walt, 5 Ruan Botha, 4 Ruben van Heerden, 3 Coenie Oosthuizen, 2 Kerron van Vuuren, 1 Thomas du Toit
Replacements: 16 Akker van der Merwe, 17 Mzamo Majola, 18 John-Hubert Meyer, 19 Hyron Andrews, 20 Jacques Vermeulen, 21 Cameron Wright, 22 Robert du Preez, 23 Marius Louw



70 Comments

  • Thanks for the info. I can’t help but feel that if the Sharks really pitch up for this game they could sneak it by 5. On the other hand, if they don’t, it’s another 50 point drubbing! Hopefully they can give the Saders a go!

  • Comment 1, posted at 30.04.19 16:34:46 by Karl Reply
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  • Pretty good starting XV, the bench has me worried, although I’m pleased to see JH Meyer on the bench.

  • Comment 2, posted at 30.04.19 16:43:48 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • I feel for kobus van wyk

  • Comment 3, posted at 30.04.19 16:47:00 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 3) : Agreed, last year on tour he scored a good try against the crusaders, he just seldom gets picked. Although, Rob started Bosch at 10 in back to back games, that’s something to put in the positive column.

  • Comment 4, posted at 30.04.19 17:01:13 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • That is a lot of Afrikaans beef from 1 through 8. If they’re switched on and lay a foundation, the backs can score a few tries. Just hope our intensity on defence hasn’t slipped since last week.

  • Comment 5, posted at 30.04.19 17:04:48 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • Damn!! Losing Beast is a big blow. I do like the look of the lock pairing though.

  • Comment 6, posted at 30.04.19 17:08:15 by Choochi Reply

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  • Pity about the injury to Beast but good team announced. I would however have liked to see Luke Stringer and Tyler Paul on the bench but coaches have their plan and picked those who they feel are the best suited to implement it. Good luck guys. Let’s see another performance like the one at Ellis Park and end the Crusaders unbeaten home run. After all we managed to beat them with 14 men a few years back. No real reason to believe that we can’t do it again. Go Sharks.

  • Comment 7, posted at 30.04.19 17:15:57 by sudhir Reply

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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 4) : Maybe next he will give Cam Wright more than 10 minutes a game

  • Comment 8, posted at 30.04.19 17:18:54 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 4) : The reason why it’s sad, kobus gives 100% each match. Pretty sure he will accept being an impact player also. His commitment and dedication to the team is invaluable

  • Comment 9, posted at 30.04.19 17:19:23 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Many pundits recon sharks will walk this one and limit injury and firepower for the next winnable one.

  • Comment 10, posted at 30.04.19 18:25:37 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 4) : I think he may realize if he wants a viable 10 left for next year he should put more faith in Bosch.

  • Comment 11, posted at 30.04.19 18:27:37 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 3) : Still say sharks should mould him into a terreblanche at 15.

  • Comment 12, posted at 30.04.19 18:28:43 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Guess we’ll only know how bad beast injury is end if week. Boks will probably call for him to be removed anyways. Is the bok rest policy a mandatory thing?

  • Comment 13, posted at 30.04.19 18:36:13 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 9) : Can see Stringer going that way too. It is sad.

  • Comment 14, posted at 30.04.19 18:44:27 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 11) : wonder if this will keep him at the sharks.

  • Comment 15, posted at 30.04.19 21:35:49 by durbsguy Reply

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  • This page is a rreal three ring circus, one win on tour and the same guys who were calling for the Sharks to be replaced in Super rugby a week ago by the Border Bulldogs , are now confidently predicting we will win in Christ Church on a ground on which the Crusaders are currently on a 25 game winning streak, against all comers.
    Mark my words if by some bizarre reason we fail to win the same flakes will be baying for the coaches head, the return pf Gary Gould,Kevin Putt,and the favourite chestnut Jimmy Stonehouse.
    I for one believe we can win and I remember being heavily castigated here, especially by the old guru of this sight when i had the audacity to suggest we could winch last time we did, and it was with 13 men on the field not 14.

  • Comment 16, posted at 30.04.19 23:28:08 by The hound Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 12) : Hell yes

  • Comment 17, posted at 01.05.19 08:06:30 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 14) : Stringer needs one season of patience, the dup Brothers seem destined to leave

  • Comment 18, posted at 01.05.19 08:07:15 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 18) : They have reportedly signed up with the parent company from end of 2020 Super Rugby season

  • Comment 19, posted at 01.05.19 08:49:29 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Crusaders: 15 Will Jordan, 14 Sevu Reece, 13 Braydon Ennor, 12 Jack Goodhue, 11 George Bridge, 10 Mitch Hunt, 9 Bryn Hall, 8 Kieran Read, 7 Matt Todd (c), 6 Jordan Taufua, 5 Scott Barrett, 4 Mitchell Dunshea, 3 Michael Alaalatoa, 2 Codie Taylor, 1 Joe Moody.
    Subs: 16 Ben Funnell, 17 Isi Tu’ungafasi, 18 Oliver Jager, 19 Luke Romano, 20 Ethan Blackadder, 21 Mitchell Drummond, 22 Brett Cameron, 23 Tim Bateman.

    Perhaps Sandor maybe right again – last time the Sharks beat the Saders first choice Dan Carter was on extended leave and Slade had a mare

  • Comment 20, posted at 01.05.19 08:56:34 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 20) : That is still a very formidable saders outfit, our pack does have the upper hand when it comes to brute force. Sharks love playing away from home especially against the kiwis. Strange things have happened this season, so a 3 point squeak or a 50 point blow out, let’s see which sharks team shows up

  • Comment 21, posted at 01.05.19 10:19:44 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 21) : I would not bet anything I am not prepared to loose on a Sharks win. I will settle for a good performance from the Sharks where everyone puts in their best – regardless of the result.

  • Comment 22, posted at 01.05.19 10:29:04 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 18) : Looks that way. But yes patience and he probably will see some field time. Tough NZ teams are also tough on injury stats. Unfortunately.

  • Comment 23, posted at 01.05.19 12:19:21 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 22) : I think it’s what most want. And maybe an added benefit of no injuries.

  • Comment 24, posted at 01.05.19 12:20:39 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 24) : I actually agree with the coach on this one. They should just show they behave the basics sorted or perfected. We just need to see something solid that they can retain and build on. Apart from the Crusaders strong disciplined basics should be able to handle most teams in this year’s comp. No one has shown any real consistency so if we can show that week in and week out we can bring out flair in the knockouts.

  • Comment 25, posted at 01.05.19 14:31:58 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 16) : :grin:
    “Clowns to the left of me,
    Jokers to the right, here I am,
    Stuck in the middle with you”

    What next, Lambkins to coach the Sharks?

  • Comment 26, posted at 02.05.19 10:21:53 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 26) : Beast be new coach, captain,manager,PR and marketing executive and also to take over the running of this page.

  • Comment 27, posted at 02.05.19 10:35:22 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 27) : Thats a win,win,win,win,win situation…….What could go wrong?

  • Comment 28, posted at 02.05.19 10:53:10 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 25) : I agree this week the expectations are low and its about building a foundation and hopefully getting a win over the chiefs. I would love a win over the saders but a competitive loss with few errors will be fine. I am interested if the line-out will perform without Hyron, he calls it very cleverly and understands Keiran well. We do need Ruan’s physicality though so lets hope it goes ok. (luckily no Whitelock).

    We will need to kick accurately and have a solid set piece to have a chance. Our defense is good when the mindset is right.

    Can the sharks also work on a channel one quick scrum ball because when we under pressure in the scrums we really struggle to get it out fast.

  • Comment 29, posted at 02.05.19 11:14:42 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 27) : At least then we may get some reports on injured players.

  • Comment 30, posted at 02.05.19 11:20:08 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 30) : ha ha true and maybe even get Rob Dylan interested again.

  • Comment 31, posted at 02.05.19 11:23:20 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 28) : They may revoke his visa,Xenophobiha is rife in the last outpost.

  • Comment 32, posted at 02.05.19 11:44:19 by The hound Reply
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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 29) : Well we will have to decide if we are going to be playing 80 minutes of line- outs or 80 minutes of rugby. Hyron has one good point but many drawbacks. That kid needs more bulk/muscle if he wants a sustainable career at lock.

  • Comment 33, posted at 02.05.19 11:54:24 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 29) : Ja we may get lucky with a bunch of stars missing in the Saders lineup this week. But like you said all I want to see is if they can actually play the basics required for this level. Which I’m not so sure of from week to week…

  • Comment 34, posted at 02.05.19 11:58:36 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 33) : I agree and thats why I have said lock is a weakness of ours since before the season started. A player like Lood has it all whereas we making compromises either in the loose or at line-out. I wonder if Van Heerden could make the switch to 5 he has the athleticism for it.

  • Comment 35, posted at 02.05.19 12:07:08 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 32) : Beast has been a SA citizen for a few years already.

  • Comment 36, posted at 02.05.19 12:14:31 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 35) : I’m sure he can and wants to. He said in an article last year when he was still at bulls he wants to go for the nr5 jersey.

  • Comment 37, posted at 02.05.19 12:28:13 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 37) : Well then lets hope we have the solution in house. He must have picked up some stuff from them about lineout play. They usually have a very strong lineout

  • Comment 38, posted at 02.05.19 12:31:13 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 37) : But we need to look at nr 4. So who should we bet on for future 4 and 5 is the question? We have some great stocks in Koegies and Tyler Paul as well.

  • Comment 39, posted at 02.05.19 12:35:00 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 39) : For me Tyler Paul is an excellent 4 I could see him as a bok 4.

  • Comment 40, posted at 02.05.19 12:40:00 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 40) : I like Tyler when we have the luxury I would like to see the mobility if a lineup with phepsi stringer Paul van vuuren Thomas du toit. Don’t know who to pick for th. I like Coenie’s workrate but he will have to be fitter for us to see that.

  • Comment 41, posted at 02.05.19 12:44:04 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 41) : The point being I would like to see what we can do behind a fast mobile forward pack with quick recycling. Add some fast intelligent linking to the backs, we could see a killer pace game. Would be fun.

  • Comment 42, posted at 02.05.19 12:46:01 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 39) : And JJ too. Man I wish we could get guys like Teichman and Andrews to get these guys into some deep training.

  • Comment 43, posted at 02.05.19 12:56:54 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 43) : I see Mark Andrews attends the games from time to time as a fan wiith his family. With the lack of cash available It would be nice to try get some of these guys in on an ad hoc basis to introduce something different from time to time thereby adding to the coaching without inflating the bill.

    I see old Rob is calling critics cockroaches! imagine this guy actually won more games than he lost currently 21/43 in super rugby for a 48% win record

  • Comment 44, posted at 02.05.19 13:12:06 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 44) : I have a feeling that cockroach comment is directed to ex players and such, who criticized the lack of direction and results after 3 years in the drivers seat with arguably one of the best teams on book in terms of talent and a settled coaching squad. But I guess with all that, expecting a team to do more than scrape by or even present any kind of threat to the log leaders is expecting too much. I wonder if the Crusaders hold themselves to the same low standard. If so maybe we DO have a shot.

  • Comment 45, posted at 02.05.19 13:20:39 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 45) : He also had a go at the journalists for being uninformed, this from a guy who gives 2 minute pressers and a union that doesn’t even give injury updates.

  • Comment 46, posted at 02.05.19 13:32:12 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 46) : Well then I would say he is being accurate in using the term? May also prompt the question why not inform everyone then? Kill the speculation by being more transparent. Easy.

  • Comment 47, posted at 02.05.19 14:05:53 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 47) :The use of the term may be correct but relying on your own negligence as a defense is not really acceptable.

    I think experienced journalists like Rich and Greenaway have enough sources to be well informed notwithstanding his attempts to keep them in the dark.

    I would hope for some sort of transparency or even a response to the speculation but all we get is how well things are going and how if we would only take our chances we would win. Its insightful stuff that.

  • Comment 48, posted at 02.05.19 14:19:01 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 44) : “All the cockroach commentary on social and uninformed opinions of journalists have not affected us,” Du Preez told Netwerk24 earlier this week as his team prepared for Friday’s match against the Crusaders in Christchurch.”

    You are putting words in Du Preez’s mouth, cockroach commentary is very different from calling someone a cockroach although I suspect that those that do make these comments could just as be called roaches. (thats my view not Du Preezs) Hey, if the shoe fits…..

  • Comment 49, posted at 02.05.19 16:16:44 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 49) : So you reckon Sharks supporters should just shut up and not whinge when the players do not rock up mentally for a game like against the Jaguares or make mistake after mistake like against the Bulls, Stormers and Reds at home.

    Basically like 150% supporting your son with little ball sense (and his mates with even less) playing for the U/14C team because he is your son? Never really expecting much i.t.o. results from them?

  • Comment 50, posted at 02.05.19 17:12:27 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 50) : ” Cockroach commentary”, what dont you understand about that? :shock:

  • Comment 51, posted at 02.05.19 17:16:11 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 51) : @Bokhoring (Comment 50) : A coach who loses more than he wins in super rugby shoulndt get so angry at criticism and start insulting those who questioned him.

  • Comment 52, posted at 02.05.19 17:20:04 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 51) : i am not sure if he means those who offer the critical commentary are cochroaches or they speak cockroach? You tell us

  • Comment 53, posted at 02.05.19 17:29:19 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 51) : I have never heard of the term “cockroach commentary” before – so I honestly don’t know what that means. Would you classify Watson’s open letter under that category?

    I would hope he refers to nasty personal attacks on him or individual players. That I agree is not on.

  • Comment 54, posted at 02.05.19 17:40:06 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 53) Neither, you know what he means.

  • Comment 55, posted at 03.05.19 08:24:28 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 44) : @coolfusion (Comment 45) : @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 49) : @Bokhoring (Comment 50) : this type of thing is exactly why I decided to move on!
    One excellent performance (against the Lions) in a season of total inconsistency does not make your team a champion side! To be brutally honest the performance against the Tahs was also not great and if the Tahs played better we would have lost that game!
    If you think on the current performances produced by the Sharks that this team is championship material you are in denial!!! Yes the Sharks have the players to be challenging for the trophy and that is also the reason for my and I believe other peoples frustration with the whole setup!!! All the players in the squad need to step up and start delivering the type of performances we all know they are capable of!!!
    Anyway that is the opinion of this cockroach!!!

  • Comment 56, posted at 03.05.19 08:26:12 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 56) : I agree with you roach boy.. ;)

  • Comment 57, posted at 03.05.19 08:33:09 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 54) : Its the first time I have heard the term but its not hard to fathom that he is referring to comments that overstep the boundaries of civility and decency – have a read on this site there are a few on here and no one seems to bat an eyelid at them. Its actually a good term for such comments.

    Robert du Preez has been coaching and playing rugby long enough to know that criticism comes with the job, even more so when his 3 sons are playing for him – he can take criticism, as can any coach. I really dont think that bugs him.

    There was nothing wrong with Tony Watsons open letter, I do question the timing of it (as the team embark on their overseas tour – not cool) I also question his putting Pat Lambie forward as a coach especially after his taking on of Saad for Smits appointment and takes on Teichmans appointment. Maybe Tony wants a position on the board.

  • Comment 58, posted at 03.05.19 08:51:25 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 56) : A cockroach would have begged one of the players sons to rape his own mother – I dont think you would identify with that, but if you do then by all means call yourself a cockroach.

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 58) : I don’t think it was very smart of him to use the term “cockroach” in there – firstly it can and has been turned into “he called the supporters cockroaches”, and secondly it has serious negative connotations – “Rwanda anyone?” He could have used vile, nasty, disgusting, etc

    He has already put himself in a difficult position regarding continuing to back his out of form son – accusations of nepotism now even being used by Mike Greenway (a usually very pro-Sharks journalist). I am personally not on the Bosch at 10 bandwagon (he does most damage from 15 IMO), but it is clear that Rob Jr is seriously buggered and can really do with a proper break. Huge mistake to let him play for Sale in the off season.

    This is really like watching a train wreck happening in slow motion. It is not going to end well for the Sharks

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 58) : Some people do say terrible things but that is not unique to Rob and I have seldom heard a coach have a go at critics in the manner that Rob did, others have but it is not common and Cockroach is a bad term for a couple reasons. He also had a jab at the press who have been quite good to Rob the last three years in my view.

    He should be taking some responsibility for his below 50% record instead of complaining that people are criticizing him.

    If he said he has an issue with some vile things fans are saying then fair enough but he didn’t say that.

  • Comment 61, posted at 03.05.19 09:14:38 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 60) : Maybe not the best choice of words and I think he probably regrets them considering the blow up about it but hell cockroach encompasses vile, nasty and disgusting so nicely. :mrgreen:

    Rob jnr is knackered but who else do we have if you want to play Bosch at 15.

    As far as the nepotism thing goes I dont think that phases him to much as he went through it last year with Dan.

  • Comment 62, posted at 03.05.19 09:17:16 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 59) : Getting a bit harsh there? Whether or not Rob is being evasive and hiding behind ambiguity and thinly veiled insults and retaliation to remain in his own little universe, then so be it. But the responses to each other is getting out of hand. We can hide behind technicality and semantics but that bunch of words including rape and mother’s, no matter what the order or intent just feels like a personal offensive.

  • Comment 63, posted at 03.05.19 09:19:49 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 62) : At this stage the Sharks have no choice but to play Bosch at 10

    There would also be the really “out-of-the-box” of letting Cam play 10 for a few games :roll:

  • Comment 64, posted at 03.05.19 09:21:45 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 61) : Do you seriously take his cockroach comment as aimed at normal fair criticism, cmon man you are just looking for a stick to hit him with.

  • Comment 65, posted at 03.05.19 09:22:03 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 59) : Guilty as charged on that one – should have done a better job of moderating there. That comment is now removed, and we will try and do a better job in future.

  • Comment 66, posted at 03.05.19 09:24:17 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 63) : There is a reason I put it in there – because they are the words a blogger posted on this site, which we all read and you know what, not one of you bothered to call him out on it but instead were happy to engage further with him/her.

    So that is the context I am coming from regarding Du Preezs cockroach comment, I fully understand it.

  • Comment 67, posted at 03.05.19 09:33:17 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 66) : Maybe you should leave the comment there (repost it here even) so that people can actually get where Robert du Preez is coming from – it will give some insight into his comments.and frustration.

  • Comment 68, posted at 03.05.19 09:37:36 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • Jeepers that was a real mood killer.

    Anyway Im out of here until I have had a chance to watch the recorded game.

  • Comment 69, posted at 03.05.19 09:43:09 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 67) : I didn’t read that. So I apologise if I have the cat by the tail. But wow that kind if word combination just way out if line for an adult. Whoever he was needs to re- prioritize the importance of a game. A good thing the sharks play the way they do maybe it teaches us not to invest too much into what is after all just a game….a pass time…

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