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Team for the Chiefs


Written by Henk Terblanche (Bokhoring)

Posted in :Super Rugby on 9 May 2019 at 10:11

Rob Sr bringing in a couple of fresh players into the squad makes a lot of sense – that defensive display against the Crusaders would have emptied a lot of tanks. Dan, Van Heerden and Esterhuyzen deservedly all get a rest. Van der Walt gets a chance at 8 with Vermeulen at 6. Kerron is fortunately available to start, but Akker has been dropped (can’t be rested – so I assume an injury?) from the squad with Mbatha taking his place. Louw will run at 12.

I would have liked Wright to get another chance to start and would not mind seeing a starting trio of Stringer, JLDP and PVDW.  I am also not a fan of the Andrews / Botha lock combo – both too similar, but all in all still a strong Sharks squad.

1 Thomas du Toit
2 Kerron van Vuuren
3 Coenie Oosthuizen
4 Hyron Andrews
5 Ruan Botha
6 Jacques Vermeulen
7 Jean-Luc du Preez
8 Philip van der Walt
9 Louis Schreuder (C)
10 Curwin Bosch
11 Makazole Mapimpi
12 Marius Louw
13 Lukhanyo Am
14 Sbusiso Nkosi
15 Aphelele Fassi
Replacements

16. Fezokuhle Mbatha
17. Mzamo Majola
18. John-Hubert Meyer
19. Tyler Paul
20. Luke Stringer
21. Cameron Wright
22. Robert du Preez
23. Kobus van Wyk



336 Comments

  • I assume Akker was “rested” because he cost us too many lineouts last week. Dont think an injury was the problem. As for Rob jnr I think he’s only on the bench to make up numbers. I reckon he only plays in the last 10 to 15 minutes bar anything happening to Bosch
    Rob jnr needs a solid rest when the boys get back home. Still rate him, just over played and lacking confidence atm.

  • Comment 1, posted at 09.05.19 10:23:14 by Keagan_Sharks Reply
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  • Nevermind, perhaps Akker is injured, Fez was called up as he wasn’t included in the original squad. Wonder what the junior boks think of that.

  • Comment 2, posted at 09.05.19 10:35:47 by Keagan_Sharks Reply
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  • Squad pretty much as expected. Players have to be rested but we are nowhere near good enough shape to pull more of the key guys out. So selection makes sense. Hopefully we can build a strong enough platform early by enough to afford guys like stringer, wright van Wyk, Mbatha some longer game time not just 10 mins.

  • Comment 3, posted at 09.05.19 10:44:55 by coolfusion Reply
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  • Not many comments as yet… Fear of being lampooned by the Hound? Hehe

  • Comment 4, posted at 09.05.19 11:52:21 by Karl Reply
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  • @Karl (Comment 4) : Friend” just because you are paranoid it doesn’t mean that they are not going to get you’
    ‘Dr Hunter S Thompson.

  • Comment 5, posted at 09.05.19 12:09:51 by The hound Reply
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  • Akker came home with a shoulder niggle

  • Comment 6, posted at 09.05.19 12:20:13 by Baylion Reply

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  • Ok, so Dan is being rested and to tie in with a thought on the previous thread, who will take over the captaincy if necesary?

  • Comment 7, posted at 09.05.19 12:53:14 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Karl (Comment 4) : @The hound (Comment 5) : Enjoyed both the comment and reply!

  • Comment 8, posted at 09.05.19 12:55:20 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • I understand the need to rotate but it makes me even more nervous about the game. I wonder what was wrong with Kerron that took him off the filed in the 2nd minute but he is fit to play the next week? Hope we not risking him with a potential concussion. I know we don’t have much else left but he is only 23 and needs that noggin for hopefully a long career and beyond.

    I think the commentators said he went off for a HIA?

  • Comment 9, posted at 09.05.19 12:58:53 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 9) : Probably a precaution more than anything. He is after all the hooker we need to look after very carefully.

  • Comment 10, posted at 09.05.19 13:03:46 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I see the bulls are practically giving away tickets at R20 each. I wouldn’t go even if they were free. That stadium is very poorly managed and planned for matchday. They wouldn’t be able to handle it even if they did get 50%

  • Comment 11, posted at 09.05.19 13:05:49 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 9) : I’m also a little nervous. Rotation is very necessary and good in the long run. But I am concerned about the net loss of physicality in our pack. Andrews in for vanH (I’m not even sure about Andrews at 4,would have gone with Paul), Vermeulen in for Dan and Stringer in for Vermeulen…..we lose physicality with each of these changes. If we wanted to implement the same tactics as last week, every guy in the pack needs to step up a little more than last week.
    True, each of the incoming players bring new energy and positives….. Still a little nervous.

  • Comment 12, posted at 09.05.19 13:12:07 by Rienke36 Reply

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  • Much as I like both Hyron and Ruan, a combo of the two of them just does not work, we have seen it fail countless it’s

  • Comment 13, posted at 09.05.19 13:14:45 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @Rienke36 (Comment 12) : Agree fully on the loss of physicality we have surrendered a lot in one [email protected]revolverocelot (Comment 13) : Agree Ruan couldn’t even work with Lewies because we lacked physicality and Hyron is even less physical than Lewies. Paul would have been a lot better move imo.

  • Comment 14, posted at 09.05.19 13:46:05 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 5) : Well played. 1-0

  • Comment 15, posted at 09.05.19 13:53:51 by Karl Reply

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  • Might be a good time to make an offer to Folau? We can move Bosch to 10 permanently. Have Fassi understudy wing and FB. ;)

  • Comment 16, posted at 09.05.19 14:20:14 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 14) : Fox credits Hyron with 76 completed tackles (in 747 minutes) – 9.8 minutes between tackles, Ruan with 42 completed tackles (in 284 mins) – 6.8 minutes between tackles, Ruben with 67 (in 484 mins) – 6.8 minutes between tackles. Compared to our top tackler totalwise Dan – 106 tackles (873 mins) – 8.2 minutes between tackles

    None of these guys can touch Juan Schoemann (5.7 minutes between tackles over 216 mins) and Thomas du Toit (6.1 minutes between over 386 mins)

  • Comment 17, posted at 09.05.19 14:45:26 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 17) : Thanks for the stats makes for some interesting reading. Especially comparing Hyron with Ruben and Ruan as they should all be defending in the same areas and shows that hyron isnt working as hard defensively. I suspect that the props are defending close to the ruck where there is more traffic

  • Comment 18, posted at 09.05.19 15:08:50 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 17) : I saw that, its from an Auusie site so regarding the fatties, they probabbly take the engage call at scrum time as a tackle, a reset scrum as a missed tackle and a completed scrum as a successful tackle.

    But those are seriously good stats for the props – no one can say they are shirking their duties.

  • Comment 19, posted at 09.05.19 15:10:09 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 18) : He has obviously played for longer stretches – easier to put in plenty tackles if you only playing for 25 mins at a time. His count is about the same as Beast at 9.6.

    The question would be how many of those are dominant tackles – driving players back.

  • Comment 20, posted at 09.05.19 15:28:32 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 17) : very interesting. Stats don’t always tell the full story, but it gives perspective on the work guys do that often goes unnoticed. PvdW is also up there with 5.9 minutes between tackles (49 completed). I noticed that Thomas, Akker and Coenie are high on the missed tackle count as well, unfortunately. But Van Heerden deserves a rest. The man is killing it with 7.22 minutes between tackles and a 96% tackle completion rate. Hyron has big boots to fill.

  • Comment 21, posted at 09.05.19 15:38:44 by Rienke36 Reply

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  • @Rienke36 (Comment 21) : One good thing I noticed is that everyone’s overall tackling work rate has improved from the last time I checked.

  • Comment 22, posted at 09.05.19 16:20:21 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 3) : Any ideas on when Pepsi will be back in the squad? Had an impressive work rate in the pre-season games

  • Comment 23, posted at 09.05.19 21:13:24 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 16) : Why not, experienced and one of the best players under the high ball in world rugby

  • Comment 24, posted at 09.05.19 21:14:33 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 23) : After the Junior World Champs he is captaining the SA team.

  • Comment 25, posted at 09.05.19 22:07:37 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 24) : Yup, he can bring along all the Pac Islanders who are pissed off at Rugby Australia for their treatment of Folau. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 26, posted at 09.05.19 22:09:55 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Probably quite critical for the Sharks to win this one – seeing as we still have two home games left :mrgreen:

  • Comment 27, posted at 10.05.19 07:45:18 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Keen to see how Lo and Am go as the centre pairing for this game. Lots of pace in the back line.
    Let’s hope our defense is up to the pace of the Chiefs attack. Good to also see Tyler Paul back.

  • Comment 28, posted at 10.05.19 09:38:22 by Choochi Reply

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  • The Cell C Sharks XV to take on WP in durban at Jonsson KINGS PARK KP1 on Friday afternoon in a third round SuperSport Challenge

    1. James Scott
    2. Cullen Collopy
    3. Roger Zondi
    4. Lunga Ncube
    5. Andrew Evans
    6. Adam Mountfort
    7. Wian Vosloo
    8. Kwanda Dimaza
    9. Zee Makabela
    10. Murray Koster
    11. Leolin Zas
    12. Jeremy Ward (Captain)
    13. DJ Falconer
    14. Lwazi Mvovo
    15. Rhyno Smith

    Replacements

    16. Connor Botha
    17. Tian de Jager
    18. Jeandre Labuschagne
    19. Vian Fourie
    20. Damian Stevens
    21. Inny Radebe
    22. Sicelo Tole

    I sort of thought our second team would be more formidable this season but call ups to the baby boks, first team call ups, injuries have made it a mix bag, Not sure if SS are still broadcasting any of these games

  • Comment 29, posted at 10.05.19 10:33:37 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 29) : Thanks for the info. Damian Stevens, is that the scrum half that played Varsity Cup a few years ago?

  • Comment 30, posted at 10.05.19 10:57:54 by Karl Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 30) : Unless it’s a scrummie with the exact same name this is Damian Stevens is the scrummie from namibia, he joined us in early 2016, came to us from the WP high performance centre, he did play varsity cup for UWC.

    I didnt realise he came back durbs as he had left us for griquas and then boland, I guess everyones coming home Inny, Burden and now him.

    His got a reasonably up to date Wiki page.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damian_Stevens

    I spoke Damian toward the end of 2016 at the sharks supporters club in Newlands cape town after a game, he said that it was hectic at the high performance centre as everyone was really good.

  • Comment 31, posted at 10.05.19 11:26:20 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 29) : Did you make the Zim game in Cpt last weekend, what were your thoughts on the game / players / etc?

  • Comment 32, posted at 10.05.19 11:56:33 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 26) : Ja, unfortunately we can’t really ask them to bring a good line jumping physical lock. They don’t seem to produce too much if those.

  • Comment 33, posted at 10.05.19 12:34:45 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 31) : My bad… Donald Stevens was the guy I was thinking of. Played for Maties back in ’09, but looked like he could have been The Hound’s flatmate in varsity…

  • Comment 34, posted at 10.05.19 12:41:55 by Karl Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 25) : Thanks

  • Comment 35, posted at 10.05.19 13:00:27 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 26) : NZ have been raiding the pacific islands for years, maybe time we top up on our depth too

  • Comment 36, posted at 10.05.19 13:01:13 by jdolivier Reply

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  • For those who were wondering where and when Radebe would be included again…..https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/rugby-challenge-preview-inny-radebe-makes-sharks-return/

  • Comment 37, posted at 10.05.19 13:13:35 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 33) : So we will have to compliment our Pac Isl Sharks with a few South Africans :mrgreen: :razz:

  • Comment 38, posted at 10.05.19 15:30:08 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 36) : Both Aus and NZ. Aus destroyed any chance they might have had this year by sacking Folau, they offered him 1 million AUD to not play, and he turned it down. He wants to play, and I really do believe that any team that is willing to take him on with the surrounding contraversy will find many very good rugby players world wide who feel frustrated at having to silence and apologize for their support of Folau who might come with him.

  • Comment 39, posted at 10.05.19 15:34:58 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 39) : If you are aware of anyone that has Teichmans’ ear, let thim drop that off and we can hope for the best. I honestly wouldn’t mind a player like folau being in and around our setup. His aerial skills and attacking lines could only benefit us

  • Comment 40, posted at 10.05.19 15:52:17 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Anyone close to the Supersport rugby challenge that can give scores

  • Comment 41, posted at 10.05.19 15:53:13 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 40) : He is a superstar in three codes, and certainly one of the very best fullbacks in the world.

  • Comment 42, posted at 10.05.19 16:01:08 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 41) : Sharks 13 – 21 WP at halftime.

  • Comment 43, posted at 10.05.19 16:07:32 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 44) : Thanks

  • Comment 45, posted at 10.05.19 16:15:42 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 43) : Very frustrating that school rugby(which is essential) gets broadcast but not the Supersport challenge

  • Comment 46, posted at 10.05.19 16:18:51 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Yes please, 1 Israel Folau to go, any day of the week thank you.
    Not having Folau at the World Cup will rob many fans of something that they
    paid good money to see.

  • Comment 47, posted at 10.05.19 17:18:05 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • So Province won that game 47- 20. This home ground curse is spreading.

  • Comment 48, posted at 10.05.19 17:20:03 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 47) : I want real sharks homegrown please….

  • Comment 49, posted at 10.05.19 17:48:45 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 49) : I haven’t been looking at the up and coming stocks in years now. What’s looking good at the academy these days?

  • Comment 50, posted at 10.05.19 17:50:05 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 46) : Even more frustrating I’m sure that I’m in America giving you updates. ;-) :mrgreen:

  • Comment 51, posted at 10.05.19 18:22:20 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 51) : Sharks guard their info better than the NSA

  • Comment 52, posted at 10.05.19 18:23:48 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 47) : You are so right Salmo, As far as I know, sporting stars get banned when they do something illegal or cheat in their sport, but for expressing a belief….it’s just shocking, and so short sighted of Rugby Australia. I get the impression they are being led around by the nutty president they have Ralene ??? and the CEO of Quantus, led right to rugby failure.

  • Comment 53, posted at 10.05.19 18:26:23 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 51) : Sitting in Lusaka, hence the request

  • Comment 54, posted at 10.05.19 18:54:46 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 51) : But yes…….

  • Comment 55, posted at 10.05.19 18:55:13 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Man I can’t even remember the last time I saw a sharks game, nevermind live even on TV . Definitely won’t be renewing my season tickets for next season. Even my little brothers don’t enjoy going to games anymore sigh.

  • Comment 56, posted at 10.05.19 19:00:51 by Poisy Reply
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  • Pollard making one mistake after the other. Cost a try as well.

  • Comment 57, posted at 10.05.19 19:29:48 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Second bad mistake by Pollard resulting in a try.

  • Comment 58, posted at 10.05.19 19:37:54 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Mo unga punishing bulls tonight…

  • Comment 59, posted at 10.05.19 19:38:30 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 59) : All of a sudden we look much better than the home results……………

  • Comment 60, posted at 10.05.19 19:48:09 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 60) : Well it may be me but last week’s crusaders looked much better even with men missing bulls exit kicking is awful. Pollard has no clue what he’s doing tonight. Bulls should have been doing much more with what they were getting in first 20. Saders building some momentum now. I can’t see less than 20 points difference here

  • Comment 61, posted at 10.05.19 19:53:25 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 61) : Bosch for Springboks 10. Seriously, this just shows how good the sharks can be

  • Comment 62, posted at 10.05.19 19:55:17 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Much more of this and those Bulls supporters will be demanding their 20 bucks back.

  • Comment 63, posted at 10.05.19 19:56:34 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 62) : Ja look Hannelie Pollard does not look anything like a bok FH tonight.

  • Comment 64, posted at 10.05.19 19:57:07 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 63) : Ha! I just said exactly the same thing out loud a minute ago. I’d ask for my petrol money back too!

  • Comment 65, posted at 10.05.19 19:57:54 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Let’s make a call how many more minutes before the bulls give up completely. There is no direction and planning in that backline at all.

  • Comment 66, posted at 10.05.19 19:59:14 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I say 55 minutes floodgates wide open. Free for all.

  • Comment 67, posted at 10.05.19 20:00:48 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Hannelie pollard, that is funny.

  • Comment 68, posted at 10.05.19 20:14:27 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Saders gave 10 penalties already. Last week Sharks almost won the game already with less. Bulls still at 6.

  • Comment 69, posted at 10.05.19 20:30:51 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Bulls look tired

  • Comment 70, posted at 10.05.19 20:35:51 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 70) : They’ve had to make a million tackles.

  • Comment 71, posted at 10.05.19 20:40:35 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 70) : Bulls look shit.
    Even with the three amigos,Toilet Peyper,Crooked Seconds and Starving Marvin doing everything to keep them in the game, they are hopeless.
    This is at altitude against a team that has travelled from New Zealand,

  • Comment 72, posted at 10.05.19 20:46:41 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 72) : My thoughts your words

  • Comment 73, posted at 10.05.19 20:48:28 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 72) : They really couldn’t have paid for a more biased reffing panel

  • Comment 74, posted at 10.05.19 20:49:11 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 74) : The commentators are worse,

  • Comment 75, posted at 10.05.19 20:51:00 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 75) : I’ve been bitching about Joel do you remember my kick stransky for years as a commentator

  • Comment 76, posted at 10.05.19 20:51:53 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 71) : Ironically the tackle count is far closer than you believe. Saders have made the bulls miss more.

  • Comment 77, posted at 10.05.19 20:53:12 by Dunx Reply

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  • Speckmann should play scrum half

  • Comment 78, posted at 10.05.19 20:56:19 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 78) : He did look good supporting there when the Springbok, papier, was nowhere

  • Comment 79, posted at 10.05.19 21:02:09 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Dunx (Comment 77) : And ironically the possession way closer than you’d think. Pollard absolutely awful all his decisions all his defense all his tactical play….and he was the biggest talker about unacceptable standards before the game. Today he was their biggest liability. Hmm. Boks are going to miss Lambie.

  • Comment 80, posted at 10.05.19 21:04:41 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Dunx (Comment 77) : What was the Saders penalty count? Surely more than last week?

  • Comment 81, posted at 10.05.19 21:05:40 by coolfusion Reply

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  • What do these guys do with the free phone? Convert it to cash and buy food for some street kids donate it in the players name. Or refund some bulls supporters their 20 bucks.

  • Comment 82, posted at 10.05.19 21:08:40 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 37) : thanks for bringing this to our attention, not sure how many people still work at SA rugby mag on the website side of things but the WP game will be the third game in a row that Inny is in the match day squad so he made the return sometime ago

    Strange how they missed that, rugby being their job and all

  • Comment 83, posted at 10.05.19 22:27:47 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 32) : yes I was fortunate to make it

    Team played well, seemed focused, the senior player with super rugby and cc experience seem to be very vocal, ryno Smith especially, the former Lions lock MB Luseseni did well for us

    Being an away game for the sharks the team seem to have good vibes

    Playing on that ground also made the game feel like a big occasion, it’s a very intimate venue, must better than playing in a huge empty stadium

    I would have hoped we could win the SSRC this year but I don’t think we have the depth due to Baby bok call ups, call ups to senior squad, injuries etc, this tournament is made for pumas and griquas as they can really focus on it and use it as a string board to a good cc season

  • Comment 84, posted at 10.05.19 22:35:29 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • I managed to catch the YouTube highlights now of the Bulls game and one thing that stands out for me in that 5 minute package is Pollard’s lack of commitment/urgency. In the one try, the no. 4 lock is being chased down by Snyman and the Bulls 15, but in the background you see Pollard walking. In the try where the bounce of the ball beat him, you can see him in the background walking and waving his arms around like a petulant child, before Mounga has even scored! I know you can’t do much in the way of analysis from a highlights package, but it didn’t look very good…

  • Comment 85, posted at 11.05.19 07:31:51 by Karl Reply

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  • How did we manage to lose to these guys – twice?

  • Comment 86, posted at 11.05.19 07:41:13 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Poor tactical kicking from Bosch. Needs to find grass

  • Comment 87, posted at 11.05.19 09:44:46 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Not to be that guy, but since when does a penalty advantage remain for 40m

  • Comment 88, posted at 11.05.19 09:45:15 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 87) : Emulating Hannelie pollard

  • Comment 89, posted at 11.05.19 09:45:40 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Kicking from hand not that great from Bosch thus far

  • Comment 90, posted at 11.05.19 09:45:42 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • Chiefs 3-0

  • Comment 91, posted at 11.05.19 09:45:42 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Can we pass to players running onto the ball?

  • Comment 92, posted at 11.05.19 09:48:07 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Ruan Botha strong in tackles. Of course the referee doesn’t call out chiefs slowing down ball when Sharks on attack

  • Comment 93, posted at 11.05.19 09:48:39 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • Or not pick the guy standing still

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  • Thomas off with what looks like a knee injury

  • Comment 96, posted at 11.05.19 09:49:41 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 96) : Horrible news

  • Comment 97, posted at 11.05.19 09:50:33 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Majola does well in his first scrum

  • Comment 98, posted at 11.05.19 09:51:06 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Just hook the damn ball

  • Comment 99, posted at 11.05.19 09:53:23 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Good build up and then we drop the ball.

  • Comment 100, posted at 11.05.19 09:56:05 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Wow, rent a ref

  • Comment 101, posted at 11.05.19 09:57:13 by jdolivier Reply

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  • LS must hurry up behind the rucks

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 101) : I don’t think the chiefs have even been penalized yet

  • Comment 103, posted at 11.05.19 09:59:23 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • Bosch and Fassi wants to run

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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 103) : Nope, every ruck they slow down, collapse the maul win the scrum, back off in scrum engagement get the free kick. Rips the ball in the tackle from offside, get the scrum

  • Comment 105, posted at 11.05.19 10:02:22 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Certainly not the same team that showed up against the crusaders.

  • Comment 106, posted at 11.05.19 10:06:10 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Chiefs score under the posts after Chiefs prop simply busts through the Sharks

  • Comment 107, posted at 11.05.19 10:06:25 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Louis Schreuder playing in a bubble of treacle tonight. Slows every ruck down until ref tells him to play

  • Comment 108, posted at 11.05.19 10:07:37 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Terrible tackling they just keep pumping through no one taking the legs out.

  • Comment 109, posted at 11.05.19 10:07:41 by coolfusion Reply

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  • We should mall everything in their half. 3 points not going to do it with our porous defense

  • Comment 110, posted at 11.05.19 10:10:09 by jdolivier Reply

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  • 10-3

  • Comment 111, posted at 11.05.19 10:10:38 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Andrews scores a magnificent try

  • Comment 112, posted at 11.05.19 10:11:38 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Nice hyron, Louis back to watching paint dry

  • Comment 113, posted at 11.05.19 10:11:38 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Good work Nkosi

  • Comment 114, posted at 11.05.19 10:12:01 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Our back 3 looking for work tonight

  • Comment 115, posted at 11.05.19 10:12:48 by jdolivier Reply

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  • 10 all

  • Comment 116, posted at 11.05.19 10:13:06 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Man I love that Nkosi under a high ball….

  • Comment 117, posted at 11.05.19 10:13:11 by coolfusion Reply

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  • That’s great hands for a forward … Just saying ;p

  • Comment 118, posted at 11.05.19 10:13:18 by byron Reply

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  • Too easy that try

  • Comment 119, posted at 11.05.19 10:15:21 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Chiefs strike back unfortunately. Our defense not great tonight

  • Comment 120, posted at 11.05.19 10:15:33 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Ag come on Sbu…you just made a try now you want to give it back?

  • Comment 121, posted at 11.05.19 10:15:44 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 120) : That didn’t take much. Terrible holes in sharks defense. Like no one is even thinking.

  • Comment 122, posted at 11.05.19 10:17:01 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Stop going posts, ref hardly penalizing chiefs, go for the maul, we have the better pack

  • Comment 123, posted at 11.05.19 10:18:39 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 122) : Bosch as good as he is on attack is a zero on defense

  • Comment 124, posted at 11.05.19 10:19:09 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 123) : Yes

  • Comment 125, posted at 11.05.19 10:19:27 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 124) : Well it’s not just him tonight, which is what worries me.

  • Comment 126, posted at 11.05.19 10:19:58 by coolfusion Reply

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  • So ref absolutely misses their hooker slowing our ball down with momentum on our side. Then the offsides with Louis passing to sbu. We’re going to have to be spectacular in the 2nd half to win this

  • Comment 127, posted at 11.05.19 10:22:25 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Fuck but we are poor on attack losing shape. Doesnt help that 9 believes in fair play to let the defense set

  • Comment 128, posted at 11.05.19 10:22:29 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 128) : Louis is slow as shit, but they are slowing our ball down every ruck and ref just leaves it

  • Comment 129, posted at 11.05.19 10:23:11 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 127) : what’s difference a ref makes

  • Comment 130, posted at 11.05.19 10:23:30 by byron Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 127) : Ref is kak but his decisions will stand. Sharks need to adapt

  • Comment 131, posted at 11.05.19 10:23:40 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 127) : I don’t see Louis staying on past 55 not if we want to have a chance. Let’s see what Rob does probably leave louis in till 70 mins and brings his son on at 60 and move Bosch. Wouldn’t surprise me.

  • Comment 132, posted at 11.05.19 10:24:49 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 129) : Plenty of rucks where ball available and LS just leaving it

  • Comment 133, posted at 11.05.19 10:24:57 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 132) : He done dumbass things like that before.

  • Comment 134, posted at 11.05.19 10:26:00 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @byron (Comment 130) : Not blaming the ref, we should do the same. RSA teams struggle to adapt. If he is blowing one team a certain way, logic would suggest that both should try it

  • Comment 135, posted at 11.05.19 10:26:31 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 132) : Rob Sr will stay to the plan he worked out in Jan. Rob Jr on at 55 and Cam on at about 65

  • Comment 136, posted at 11.05.19 10:27:10 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 132) : Cam on now, any chance that sbu can take fullback and kobus can also come on

  • Comment 137, posted at 11.05.19 10:27:18 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Sharks need to be able to catch and hold on to a ball. We really do smash into their space well but handling is awful.

  • Comment 138, posted at 11.05.19 10:27:46 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 136) : I guess Jr on the bench is too much change for him already

  • Comment 139, posted at 11.05.19 10:28:45 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @jdolivier (Comment 137) : I would not change the back 3. Fassi doing

  • Comment 140, posted at 11.05.19 10:29:28 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 140) : Fassi is electric on attack, his defense late game concerns me. Sbu is sublime today. Mapimpi also looking hard for work. If the rest of the boys can follow their example we can win with a bonus point

  • Comment 141, posted at 11.05.19 10:31:15 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 137) : Fassi holding his own and he has a better boot. So no. Besides Sbu is playing fullback and wing today anyway. Our problems lie elsewhere.

  • Comment 142, posted at 11.05.19 10:31:20 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Absolutely no release there ref

  • Comment 143, posted at 11.05.19 10:35:32 by byron Reply

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  • And back

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  • Shreuder back to rubbish form again. I woul target him the whole time behind the rucks/scrums. So slow.

  • Comment 145, posted at 11.05.19 10:37:00 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Majola is doing well so far

  • Comment 146, posted at 11.05.19 10:40:16 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • And another mistake stops a promising build up

  • Comment 147, posted at 11.05.19 10:42:36 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Predictable. Fassi off and Rob on

  • Comment 148, posted at 11.05.19 10:43:24 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 147) : Story of this whole game….

  • Comment 149, posted at 11.05.19 10:43:38 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Ja the idiot is putting his kid in. Not taking Schreuder off. The terrible two back together.

  • Comment 150, posted at 11.05.19 10:45:13 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Bosch struggling under the high ball and the Chiefs know it

  • Comment 151, posted at 11.05.19 10:47:39 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 151) : Ja Rob will sacrifice anything to get Jnr in I just wish the clown would put Cam in.

  • Comment 152, posted at 11.05.19 10:48:48 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Sharks need to strike now

  • Comment 153, posted at 11.05.19 10:50:01 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Try for Botha

  • Comment 154, posted at 11.05.19 10:52:17 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • If they don’t now we will know how this ends.

  • Comment 155, posted at 11.05.19 10:52:56 by coolfusion Reply

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  • 20-17 Sharks lead

  • Comment 156, posted at 11.05.19 10:53:13 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 152) : Rob jnr has done a lot for us, this is not his season, let him go hone his skills across the pond. Bosch doing well

  • Comment 157, posted at 11.05.19 10:54:54 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Be brave and kick for the corner. No – we will take the 3

  • Comment 158, posted at 11.05.19 10:56:37 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Get Cam on please. Schreuder is placing everyone under pressure on defense and killing all our tempo and momentum on attack.

  • Comment 159, posted at 11.05.19 10:57:04 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 158) : Louis schrueder school of predictable plays

  • Comment 160, posted at 11.05.19 10:58:19 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Schreuder keeps trying these little kicks, keeps failing.

  • Comment 161, posted at 11.05.19 10:58:23 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 159) : Not 65 minutes yet

  • Comment 162, posted at 11.05.19 10:58:30 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • We need Cam and Stringer on the field

  • Comment 163, posted at 11.05.19 10:59:22 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Wtf Louw?

  • Comment 164, posted at 11.05.19 11:00:31 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Why risk it? Take the ball take the tackle protect the ball.

  • Comment 165, posted at 11.05.19 11:01:14 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 163) : Hell yes

  • Comment 166, posted at 11.05.19 11:01:59 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Cam on at 63:51. How revolutionary

  • Comment 167, posted at 11.05.19 11:02:02 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • How is that a Chiefs penalty?

  • Comment 168, posted at 11.05.19 11:03:33 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • That penalty went the wrong way …. Geez holding on

  • Comment 169, posted at 11.05.19 11:03:43 by byron Reply

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  • Mapimpi steals another ball legally, ref decided to go with the home team, how revolutionary

  • Comment 170, posted at 11.05.19 11:03:54 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Dangerous entry into ruck ref!!!!!

  • Comment 171, posted at 11.05.19 11:05:01 by byron Reply

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  • Robbed in 3 minutes

  • Comment 172, posted at 11.05.19 11:05:52 by byron Reply

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  • We are going to lose this game due to an unimaginative captain and coach

  • Comment 173, posted at 11.05.19 11:06:20 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Terrible tackle from cam let’s chiefs score

  • Comment 174, posted at 11.05.19 11:06:40 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 173) : And a kak ref

  • Comment 175, posted at 11.05.19 11:06:42 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Sharks still lead 23-22

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  • Wtf

  • Comment 177, posted at 11.05.19 11:08:06 by byron Reply

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  • And the Chiefs score a try from the kickoff. Shows what playing at full speed can do

  • Comment 178, posted at 11.05.19 11:08:35 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Bosch does not do defense

  • Comment 179, posted at 11.05.19 11:09:03 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 178) : Another missed tackle by cam that’s 2 for 2 on chiefs tries

  • Comment 180, posted at 11.05.19 11:09:27 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 180) : Tackle was missed by Botha. Cam was a bit far away to make that one

  • Comment 181, posted at 11.05.19 11:11:17 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Cam missed that one.

  • Comment 182, posted at 11.05.19 11:11:27 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Chiefs not retreating at that maul.

  • Comment 183, posted at 11.05.19 11:13:57 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 6 minutes to win this, come in boys

  • Comment 184, posted at 11.05.19 11:14:44 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Kerron not cycling back as he went exposed on the side. That’s inexperience.

  • Comment 185, posted at 11.05.19 11:18:21 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Ruan Botha man of the match for me.

  • Comment 186, posted at 11.05.19 11:19:11 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • The handling! even on slow ball. What have they been training with beach balls?

  • Comment 187, posted at 11.05.19 11:22:02 by coolfusion Reply

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  • So 5 offsides at the end left to give them the game fuck you ref, well fucking played. This is just another massive outcry for neutral refs

  • Comment 188, posted at 11.05.19 11:22:27 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Well no clean record for us then.

  • Comment 189, posted at 11.05.19 11:22:47 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Can we just get some players running onto the ball once in a while?

  • Comment 190, posted at 11.05.19 11:23:23 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Well we should definitely keep Schreuder starting else we’re in danger of actually winning some games.

  • Comment 191, posted at 11.05.19 11:25:02 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 191) : We had quicker ball with Cam but still passing to static players. Sharks need to sort out the basics of attacking shape first

  • Comment 192, posted at 11.05.19 11:26:24 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Chiefs had a kak defending record before tonight. We make it to easy for other teams to defend

  • Comment 193, posted at 11.05.19 11:27:34 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Oh well. 7 points from a 3 match tour is not too shabby

  • Comment 194, posted at 11.05.19 11:29:32 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 192) : The players come to a standstill when your scrummy takes this long. Eventually everyone adapts to that way if playing and no one bothers to run any plays where guys run on to the ball anymore. The damage he does is far reaching active and passive. But what can we do? Wright will need a full season of regular starts to get sorted out and settled we don’t have that time we don’t have the coach who can think that far. So our best bet is hope and pray Schreuder wakes up and someone teaches our players some handling.

  • Comment 195, posted at 11.05.19 11:31:35 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 194) : 8 points lost by less than 7

  • Comment 196, posted at 11.05.19 11:33:17 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 196) : Nevermind a draw is 2 Apologies. Should have been 9 points

  • Comment 197, posted at 11.05.19 11:34:04 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 194) : Funny how “oh well..” or “At least..” Has become our standard… Bad coaching blind deaf and dumb on selection/replacement poor defense poor handling. Sharks simply don’t win the games they should be winning.

  • Comment 198, posted at 11.05.19 11:36:21 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 198) : Get a coach like white back, he is just as predictable, but oh well will never be accepted in his reign

  • Comment 199, posted at 11.05.19 11:37:46 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Ate you guys listening to the cockroaches comments on supersport on Rob constantly shifting Bosch to give his son a go? Apparently 80% of the rugby world is a cockroach….if you don’t agree with our clown coach…

  • Comment 200, posted at 11.05.19 11:40:12 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Well probably never see Bosch next to Faf unless the Sharks are able to buy him. But wow what a prospect that would have been.

  • Comment 201, posted at 11.05.19 11:47:49 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Quite a successful tour agents all things considered. It will be those ridiculous losses at home that have been our Achilles heal.
    Rob jnr did quite well when he came on. Curwin needs some work under the high ball. We also need patience on attack. Marius struggles when he starts games and his defense in the midfield wasnt great. We missed Andre there.

  • Comment 202, posted at 11.05.19 11:47:54 by Keagan_Sharks Reply

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  • @Keagan_Sharks (Comment 202) : Rob Jnr did only one thing when he came in. He disrupted the man who was winning almost winning the game at flyhalf. Please show me what coach does this game after game. Last week on the cusp of winning same thing. Disrupt the backline. Don’t replace the obvious problem player the scrumhalf no displace your star attacker.

  • Comment 203, posted at 11.05.19 11:50:55 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 203) : Oh and at the same time you damage Fassi’s game as well. And then we wonder why the kid isn’t ready yet or moan about his shortcomings. Take Jnr out if the matchday squad and see if Rob still makes this call? No he won’t. Because he would rather lose the game rather than leave his boy out.

  • Comment 204, posted at 11.05.19 11:55:03 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Man, I’m disappointed in the loss. So close but yet so far. Hats of to Hyron. I was concerned about his selection before the game, but he did really well. Also, a big ups to Majola, having to come on for the Tank so early in the game. Tank’s injury had the potential to derail our forward-game, but all of the front row put in a massive effort to make up for the time Tank wasn’t able to complete on the field. I would stick my neck out to say we didn’t see the effect of having one less prop than usual? Heroic effort by the big men in my books.

  • Comment 205, posted at 11.05.19 12:36:47 by Rienke36 Reply

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  • It was beautiful to see the long line out throws to PvdW at the back! I can’t recall us doing that much so far this season? (forgive me if I’m wrong). Good accuracy and skill from Van Vuuren and PvdW. It adds an arrow to the bow and can be used as an attacking platform going forward.

  • Comment 206, posted at 11.05.19 12:50:09 by Rienke36 Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 204) : I dont agree with the sub but Rob cam on and did well. Is Curwin so fragile he cant committ to the high ball under pressure. The players made the mistakes on the field today not the coach.
    Everyone calling the coaches head please offer a realistic solution in the current SA environment. There is a player drain, no money and ludacris politics. If you okes are keen on another “building phase”, have at it. The players need to take some responsibility here. We putting plenty of phases together and dropping the ball at the last minute. I think the team and coaches need some mental coaching to sort things out.

  • Comment 207, posted at 11.05.19 13:21:09 by Keagan_Sharks Reply

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  • @Keagan_Sharks (Comment 207) : Ja that last minute drop is whats so heartbreaking. The buildups to it is really beautiful hard worked moves. I wonder if the impatience just gets to them at the end. Maybe over anticipation…

  • Comment 208, posted at 11.05.19 13:43:11 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I still say Tyler Paul could be our answer at 8 if they train him.ginger is on and off and Dan may not be around.

  • Comment 209, posted at 11.05.19 13:47:45 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 208) : 100% you can see the frustration with the boys as well. Compare it to how patient the NZ teams are on attack. If we can focus in the red zone coupled with our pressure and physicality, we are a huge threat to any team.

  • Comment 210, posted at 11.05.19 13:52:13 by Keagan_Sharks Reply

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  • @Keagan_Sharks (Comment 202) : 4 overseas matches … 2 wins, a draw and a losing bonus point. If you ask anyone at the start of the season if they’d take that the answer is bloody hell YES

  • Comment 211, posted at 11.05.19 13:55:10 by byron Reply

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  • @Keagan_Sharks (Comment 210) : If you ask me Schreuder adds to the pressure on the line his slow delivery shrinks that initiative gap so much quicker delivery could see some better options and less pressure. They were on top of our attackers so quickly the backline gets smothered.

  • Comment 212, posted at 11.05.19 14:02:38 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Love it how the uneducated here immediately tear into the coach as soon as we drop point .
    I prefer listening to more credible opinions,
    Last night after the Bulls game when the top coach in the tournament Scotty Robinson was interviewed on the field I think it was by that air head blonde and asked about his team’s performance against the Sharks previous week .
    He said to his credit, that the Crusaders came up against a team with an excellent game plan who had the ability and the fitness to execute it
    Now for me a coach’s job is to develop a game plan and prepare the players to execute it.
    Its not his job to make sure the players can catch a ball their respective under7 coaches were supposed to do that.
    This is still a young team, but unfortunately the cockroaches are going to pull it apart before its allowed to grow.

  • Comment 213, posted at 11.05.19 14:07:52 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 213) : I love how a season ticket comes with a free degree in rugby.

  • Comment 214, posted at 11.05.19 14:09:56 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 214) : Oh and how Jean de Villiers ndugani and every SS commentator making the same comments also qualify as uneducated. And Tony Brown and and and…

  • Comment 215, posted at 11.05.19 14:12:15 by coolfusion Reply

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  • The number if cockroaches are growing. But fortunately we have some super educated people who will have us hold on to a 3 year losing “plan” . 3 years. 3.

  • Comment 216, posted at 11.05.19 14:13:59 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Gary Gold is still ahead in wins at this stage of SR in 2016. He got 1.5 years. No one seemed to mind him leaving early.

  • Comment 217, posted at 11.05.19 14:18:51 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Think you need to get your matric, first before you are qualified to have an opinion, so why don’t you wait till you get yours trust me 4 years flashes by in an instant ,in the bigger scheme of things.

  • Comment 218, posted at 11.05.19 14:28:08 by The hound Reply
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  • @The hound (Comment 218) : Think you need to speak with someone who else. not someone who actually has degrees besides a season ticket. Shall we compare Jake White who had 1 year perhaps with dick Muir or Plumtree at year 3 ?

  • Comment 219, posted at 11.05.19 14:35:50 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Keagan_Sharks (Comment 210) : That patience is probably legendary. I can think of any teams who can keep it together like that till the last 30 seconds if a game. Even today an underperforming team kept that supreme composure to beat an obvious favorite in terms of raw ability. I must agree. No one has heads like the NZ boys in that space.

  • Comment 220, posted at 11.05.19 14:50:10 by coolfusion Reply

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  • I say drop Laubscher drop cockroach du Preez and try our best to lure Ackerman.

  • Comment 221, posted at 11.05.19 14:52:00 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 213) : 2 moments of lack luster defence cost us the match, not the coach, you are correct. Just wonder if that old saying: you play the way you practice, might not also be a contribution

  • Comment 222, posted at 11.05.19 15:06:03 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 217) : I still want dick and Plumb back, so bad

  • Comment 223, posted at 11.05.19 15:07:00 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 223) : Personally I would like to see what a guy like Ackerman can do. If it were possible he is proving at Gloucester that what he did at Lions was not just a once off.

  • Comment 224, posted at 11.05.19 15:50:23 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @The hound (Comment 218) : Dude. I think my replies are out of line. You have your views I have mine. You can berate me for mine all day. I’m disengaging. So I apologise and I’m leaving it now.

  • Comment 225, posted at 11.05.19 15:52:28 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Watching the waratahs vs the lions, amazing the difference it makes when forwards get the ball at speed, not standing still

  • Comment 226, posted at 11.05.19 16:29:57 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 224) : He might bring the militarily type of discipline needed for the boys to take this shit seriously

  • Comment 227, posted at 11.05.19 16:31:06 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Sloppy Seconds must be the worst most brazenly biased moron ever to referee a rugby game,he can’t possibly be the best we can do

  • Comment 228, posted at 11.05.19 16:41:26 by The hound Reply
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  • Seconds revenges our loss by giving the lions the game.

  • Comment 229, posted at 11.05.19 16:49:43 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 226) : Such a simple concept

  • Comment 230, posted at 11.05.19 20:09:48 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Keagan_Sharks (Comment 207) : Agree with you. But why sub Fassi at minute 50? Was it Rdp decision or Braam? If it’s Rdp then he must accept all the criticism that comes his way. It seems like this was pre planned to give jnr game time to run into form as the same happened last week. Fassi was pissed off. Why take off 1 off your major attacking threats? The chiefs were glad to see him sub as he and Bosch were giving them serious concerns. So while I think that Rdp is a good coach he needs to acknowledge that the way he is handling his son’s lack of form is hurting the team and himself as coach. Jnr should have been sent to play Supersport competition for the sharks to rediscover form not try to do it in Australsia at the expense of Fassi and Bosch.

  • Comment 231, posted at 11.05.19 20:22:54 by sudhir Reply

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  • Well done to Mzamo Majola today. He really stepped up when needed and scrummed very well. The forwards looked a bit flat today. Perhaps the suffering the effects of the incredible effort against the Crusaders. So 1 loss on tour is not a bad result. Well done guys. Enjoy the rest and klap the lions again in 2 weeks.

  • Comment 232, posted at 11.05.19 20:29:36 by sudhir Reply

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  • @sudhir (Comment 231) : I agree fully. There might be something said though for a coach wanting to help a player back to form. But the stakes needs to be the higher consideration. It may also be contrary to my expressed views but Rob snr is still a relatively new coach at this level. He may well mature in time. Doesn’t help us though.

  • Comment 233, posted at 12.05.19 12:46:46 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @sudhir (Comment 232) : We have many guys who have stepped up Majola Stringer Bosch Kerron Tyler Paul. Must say that Majola handled the pressure much better than I expected.

  • Comment 234, posted at 12.05.19 12:48:21 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 234) : Don’t forget about both fassi and mapimpi, both have been iffy on defence in the past. Mapimpi also has now stolen more balls at ruck time than hyron andrews

  • Comment 235, posted at 12.05.19 15:19:54 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 235) : Ha if given time and security of position they will improve.

  • Comment 236, posted at 12.05.19 15:20:49 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 236) : What I was trying to say is that there is a bunch of players really giving it their all. The lions game couldn’t have been a fluke, everyone just has to click at the same moment. For that, the coaches need to get them working towards the goal.

  • Comment 237, posted at 12.05.19 17:16:36 by jdolivier Reply

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  • I get the idea that we slow down the game because the guys do not want to make mistakes. Likewise players (especially forwards) prefer to receive the ball from a standing start – again due to possibly not feeling confident that they will be able to run onto the pass without making a handling mistake

  • Comment 238, posted at 12.05.19 19:03:02 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 238) : Might be the case, but their profession is rugby, they should have that skill or get the skill coached

  • Comment 239, posted at 12.05.19 19:39:09 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 238) : The ironic thing is that most if the handling errors were on slow ball. No U think they should get their skills and confidence up. That fast game worked very well for them and it’s great to watch. I still say they would be able to decide which options they want if that Ball was delivered quicker by the pivot.

  • Comment 240, posted at 13.05.19 07:40:05 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 240) : For sure, I want more of what we did in the Lions game. The Sharks have some serious strike weapons in Mapimpi, Fassi, Bosch and Nkosi. We need to find ways to have them run at disrupted defenses.

  • Comment 241, posted at 13.05.19 07:59:03 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Just read that Coenie is also on his bicycle, riding north to join up with fellow teammates at Sale Sharks

  • Comment 242, posted at 13.05.19 10:02:01 by Choochi Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 53) : Yep Rugby Australia are really mangling this one, Folau not only expressing a belief that he will tell you comes from the most sold and read book of all time. What next?

  • Comment 243, posted at 13.05.19 10:27:07 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 49) : Who doesnt? Homegrown is what you have in your coach and his son and you are not too appreciative of them, and in the meantime you would pass on getting Folau – hmmm maybe your thing with Du Preez is just personal then.

  • Comment 244, posted at 13.05.19 10:32:01 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 215) : Last I saw Tony Brown was thinking that Rob du Preez should have been in the Bok squad.

  • Comment 245, posted at 13.05.19 11:09:18 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 152) : How did that work out?

  • Comment 246, posted at 13.05.19 11:11:34 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @sudhir (Comment 231) : And if it was Braams decision, would all be good then? BTW how did RduP play?

  • Comment 247, posted at 13.05.19 11:31:11 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 244) : Homegrown doesn’t mean anything homegrown goes. Non performing home grown is exempt do I have to explain all the basic qualifiers? If you’re going to debate don’t waste most of the time pulling things out if context. No one has time for explaining basic non negotiables. If ALL homegrown is acceptable then why have any form of selection at all. Let’s take anyone who ever played a day’s rugby in KZN. Let’s not be silly in our arguments….and as for my disapproval with the du Preez being personal…that seems to be your comeback for everyone who has an opinion on the du preez that doesn’t conform with yours. Let’s put forth some opinions not opinions on other people’s opinions then jump to tour go-to foregone conclusion….it must be personal…. Who cares who coaches the sharks as long as they grow and win and get on top of their peers and stay that way.

  • Comment 248, posted at 13.05.19 12:19:08 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 247) : Wow that’s a silly argument. I’m seeing a pattern with your logic. It’s not at all relevant or mature. How would it be braams decision? Rob snr is the head coach. All decisions have to be finally approved by him. All accountability belongs to him. Everything seems to be a personal vendetta and can never have any other motivation like comparing and measuring and rationalization? You know Sudhirs questions and mine were asked live by the SS commentators as well? All 3 asked that question. Many journos asked the same question in writing. Do we all have it in for Rob by questioning the decisions?

  • Comment 249, posted at 13.05.19 12:25:13 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Watched the 2012 semi between the Sharks and Stormers at Newlands, what a game and a good reminder of how good guys like Bressler, Daniel, Kankowski, Michalak. Marcel Coetzee was and still is such a talented hard grafting player that it really is travesty that Rassie Erasmus cant see his value.

  • Comment 250, posted at 13.05.19 12:31:13 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 246) : Hindsight is 2020…that’s a lame move…let’s all comment after the game….as to your question it works about as well as heineke Meyer putting Lambie in at 70 minutes after letting Pollard and Jantjies Royaly mess up then saying….and how did that work out for you? And how did the whole game with all the added pressure and slow ball work out? And how will it work out in future if Cam never gets time?

  • Comment 251, posted at 13.05.19 12:34:05 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Choochi (Comment 242) : Someone at Sale is building a working sharks team. Next to go probably Bosch Nkosi maybe someone is smart enough at sale to see a future investment in Fassi. Looks like the sale procurement office has found a good fishing ground at the sharks.

  • Comment 252, posted at 13.05.19 12:42:53 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 248) : So basically the homegrown has to be better than Folau and Du Preez for that matter, so in the meantime what is your strategy if you are willing to reject Folau for homegrown but have no one close to that standard. I dont recall telling anyone else that their comments on Du Preez are personal, maybe yours arent but the veracity makes one wonder but so what anyway?

  • Comment 253, posted at 13.05.19 12:44:54 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 253) : Wow. I’m not going there you cannot build the other man’s argument in your own mind then present it to him as his words. Then attack that misconcieved picture you built. I said I would like homegrown talent if I could have it. No one said he must be better than Folau nor du Preez since that comment at that time was only about Folau. Where did du Preez come into that specific comment? Also no one said du Preez was never any good nor will be again. He is just not good now. And he should not be replacing the hard working and better performing guys now. Especially since he is out if form especially since he is leaving and we need to prefer those we will try to keep, especially since our players are draining. But I’m done with this now. When you understand debate let’s talk. Let’s bring facts stats or some well reasoned rationale. K look forward to that.

  • Comment 254, posted at 13.05.19 12:53:59 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 249) : Well it was a genuine question, as if someone was to get “blamed” for bringing junior on.

  • Comment 255, posted at 13.05.19 13:03:40 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 254) : Btw how did RduP play?

  • Comment 256, posted at 13.05.19 13:05:35 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 254) : So would you take Folau if he was available or not?

  • Comment 257, posted at 13.05.19 13:06:32 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 252) : True, I believe its being built around the Du Preez family. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 258, posted at 13.05.19 13:33:09 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 251) : Im a Wright fan, just couldnt let the opportunity go by though. Anyway the loss must be placed squarely on the coaches shoulders and not on a bunch of iffy tackles from the chosen ones. :twisted:

  • Comment 259, posted at 13.05.19 13:37:56 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 243) : So you reckon no pork and millions of teenage boys better watch out then?

  • Comment 260, posted at 13.05.19 13:38:28 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 260) : I dont reckon anything, he is probably referencing me with his tweet. Im OK with that, I get where he is coming from though and he is welcome to speak out what are obviously his convictions which he feels strongly about.

  • Comment 261, posted at 13.05.19 14:34:50 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • It’s funny how in school we are taught to look up to and be grateful to the people who were so convicted of their religious beliefs that they were not only persecuted to death for speaking up for it, but eventually had to flee their countries and conquer tough frontiers at the expense of many lives to live and follow those beliefs. Yet now one guy who dares doing that same thing is being destroyed for doing the same thing.

  • Comment 262, posted at 13.05.19 14:58:21 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 261) : Free speech is fine and well, but it does leave his employer a bit in the lurch – seeing that the CEO of one its main sponsors is openly gay?

    People are entitled to their opinions, but must also realize these carry consequences – especially when you are a high profile representative of an organization.

    I respect that the guy feels so strongly about his beliefs, but I can also fully understand that Australian Rugby had to act.

  • Comment 263, posted at 13.05.19 15:01:14 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 263) : I get it but now they are making a bigger splash with their shoddy handling of it. Its not going away in a hurry and their trying to get him to take a pay was another stuff up on their part. .

  • Comment 264, posted at 13.05.19 15:32:40 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 263) : @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 264) : Look bottom line is you can’t reasonably say we are excluding Folau because Rugby Australia is an inclusive sport, which is exactly what they said. They’re excluding him because he didn’t meet their inclusiveness standards. Not to mention the fact they have been lying all along saying he violated a clause in his contract which doesn’t exist. There was no social media clause in his contract as they kept claiming, now the charge has changed from breach of contract to breach of RA standards or something like that. The tide is changing on this, the reason it is taking them so long to give a final resolution is that they are trying to figure out how to keep him in the game and get out of this while saving face. They are f……cked.

  • Comment 265, posted at 14.05.19 01:48:57 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 263) : Yup and without Folau, the Wallabies will suck so badly no Australian supporters will fly Quantus to the RWC in Japan. So a real win/win for everyone here right?

  • Comment 266, posted at 14.05.19 01:51:15 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 263) : Also, how do you think the other sponsors feel about having invested a lot of money in a team whose chances are shot because one of the sponsors didn’t like what the best player in Aus said. I’m sure they’re not too happy about that, when you kowtow to one you’re bound to piss off or lose another. Very poorly handled by RA, simple as that, and it is going to cost them.

  • Comment 267, posted at 14.05.19 02:04:41 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 263) : I also believe that Ralene Castle (Head of RA) has a vendetta against Folau and is using the CEO of Qantas as an excuse. Come on, he may be gay, but he is a businessman, and what’s most important is that his company’s name is on a
    “winning” jersey that gets a great deal of television coverage, not what one of the players said, believe me he didn’t become CEO because of thin skin.

  • Comment 268, posted at 14.05.19 02:21:12 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 268) : Where would you draw the line when a representative of your organization starts publicly targeting certain groupings? Would you be OK if he was anti-Semitic or openly racist?

    I find his post pretty offensive – my cousin is gay, married and she is definitely a more decent church going person than me. Does she deserve to be grouped with drunks and fornicators?

    He can say what he wants, but its up to RA if they want to be associated with what he is putting out on social media. This is not the first incident BTW.

    Pity – he is probably the worlds best fullback at the moment

  • Comment 269, posted at 14.05.19 08:23:59 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 268) :I havent been following the saga that closely to know who is who and what, I thought Castle was the gay party in this, I didnt realise it was the Qantas CEO which now really compounds the issue with his airline more than happy enough to fly to and form partnerships with countless countries that have jail terms and even the death penalty for homosexual acts. Hypocrisy all round here – Castle should immediately tell Qantas to shove their sponsorship. I think you are right, its a fight Qantas would not want because now their association with anti-homosexual countries (and there are many) is being brought into question.

  • Comment 270, posted at 14.05.19 08:35:15 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 269) : I take serious offence at the blatant bigotry towards us drunks on display in your post…

  • Comment 271, posted at 14.05.19 12:04:20 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 271) : I was waiting for it. :lol:

  • Comment 272, posted at 14.05.19 12:22:52 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 271) : Never said I don’t partake in a bit of drinking and fornicating :mrgreen:

  • Comment 273, posted at 14.05.19 12:48:56 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • So Coenie gone as well. Entire front row to replace although I hope that we convince Beast to keep going. We better be looking for a Bruiser as well because the twins are leaving end of next year.

    I hope we have been saving up to replace some of these guys because I like Johnny and Schoeman but lets be real they no beast and Coenie and we going to need more than Inny radebe and Ryno Smith as backup at 10. Also can burden be relied on as a backup 2?

    1)Schoeman/Majola
    2)Kerron/Mbatha/Burden
    3)Thomas/ Johhny
    4)Ruben/Van der Mescht
    5)Botha/Andrews
    6) Philip/Stringer
    7) Jean Luc/Paul
    8) Dan /Buthelezi
    9) Wright/ Schrouder
    10) Bosch?/Radebe
    11) Mapimpi/Mvovo
    12)Estherhuisen/Louw
    13) Am/WArd
    14)Nkosi/Van Wyk
    15)Fassi/Smith

    Backline other than flyhalf is still looking good.

  • Comment 274, posted at 14.05.19 13:07:29 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 274) : Some positions looking rather thin, but as an experiment I’d try to retread van Wyk as Fullback where he can rotate with Fassi.

    Is it confirmed the twins are shipping out at the end of 2020, or is that just the favourite conspiracy theory currently? The hound knows a lot about them, perhaps he’ll know???

  • Comment 275, posted at 14.05.19 13:36:22 by Hulk Reply

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  • ah crap just saw on Sa rugby mag website:

    The Sale Sharks have confirmed the signing of loose forwards Jean-Luc and Dan du Preez on loan deals ahead of the 2019-2020 season.

    We all know this means trial run prior to contract.

  • Comment 276, posted at 14.05.19 13:38:58 by Hulk Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 263) : There is so much antisemitic ranting on social media, so no, I wouldn’t give a shit. If I got worked up every time someone said something antisemitic, I wouldn’t have time for anything else. Everyone preaches tolerance, but aren’t willing to tolerate someone else’s views.

  • Comment 277, posted at 14.05.19 13:50:37 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 270) : Yup, absolutely right, which is why I don’t think Qantas is behind it, Castle is using them as an excuse.

  • Comment 278, posted at 14.05.19 13:52:05 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Hulk (Comment 275) : Even there permanent contracts from 2020 are confirmed so yip. I agree on Van Wyk needing to be used more just not sure he can play FB but if we dont try we will never know and Terblanche did it with great success.

    That team is not winning anything next year.

  • Comment 279, posted at 14.05.19 14:05:01 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 279) : Well Terblanche was who I was thinking about when I thought van Wyk could make the move. He’s quick, defensively sound just not so sure how good his boot is but I feel he can make the switch. It’s not like he’s getting much time at wing or 13.

  • Comment 280, posted at 14.05.19 14:18:52 by Hulk Reply

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  • So the Bulls are now swapping Pollard for Morne Steyn. Seems like pretty much every SA franchise will start from scratch.

  • Comment 281, posted at 14.05.19 14:29:15 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • “The 23-year-old Du Preez twins – Jean-Luc and Dan – will follow their brother Robert to Manchester for the start of the 2019/20 English Premiership season before returning to South Africa to play for the Sharks in Super Rugby in 2020.”

    Eish

  • Comment 282, posted at 14.05.19 14:38:12 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Hulk (Comment 280) : The thing about terblanche was he was so good under the high ball but I am all for it we need another FB and he isnt getting gametime as you say so lets try it. We not buying anyone so lets see if we have some player who we can utilize better.

  • Comment 283, posted at 14.05.19 14:52:26 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 281) : Swapping?? Is Pollard retiring then? Is Morne Steyn still playing rugby?

  • Comment 284, posted at 14.05.19 15:52:13 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 284) : Pollard going to Montpellier and talk of Steyn coming back to Bulls

  • Comment 285, posted at 14.05.19 16:19:54 by Julesgr8ter Reply
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  • Steyn has got legs, thats for sure if he is still playing top flight rugby.

  • Comment 286, posted at 14.05.19 16:53:34 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 277) : Just to be clear I am not saying Folau should not have the freedom to say what he wants – how offensive I may find his version of Christianity. The question is what a company / organization like RA should do when a high profile representative of the organization publishes opinion / material on social media that is offensive to some segment of society. Obviously if they agree with his view then nothing to do, but if they don’t – what should they do? Just let him continue and effectively tacitly agree with him, or try and get him to moderate what he puts out in public?

  • Comment 287, posted at 14.05.19 17:22:45 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 287) : It’s really quite simple, do what every organization has done in the past, put out an announcement that the opinions of their employee(s) does not reflect the views of the organization. And they can even criticize their employee’s opinion, but they really should not have a right to control what an employee says during the time they are not working.

  • Comment 288, posted at 15.05.19 00:45:57 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 287) : Rugby Australia have a huge public platform, so there is no problem for them to get out their views and ensure the public knows they don’t agree with or endorse Folau’s views, it really is a simple solution, and may actually make an effective point by taking this stance without anyone losing their livelihood.

  • Comment 289, posted at 15.05.19 00:47:41 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Add PvDW to the exodus he has signed for Newcastle it was really a Super Rugby win this year or forget about it for 3/4 more years.

  • Comment 290, posted at 15.05.19 15:10:27 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 290) : Its not going to get any easier for the unions or us fans, good young players will grow, get exposure and within one or 2 seasons of showcasing their potential they will have been snapped up by a foreign club. Easy pickings down south these days. Its sad.

  • Comment 291, posted at 15.05.19 16:28:40 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 274) : I think the Sharks have long term replacements for those leaving. Guys like Evan Roos , Dylan Richardson and Celimpo Gumede will cover the loose trio along with Buthulezi. Hanro Jacobs is like a young Coenie. The backline has Muller Dup and Taheer Abrahams covering fullback/wing and sanele Nohamba 9/10. These guys are however very young and need to be well managed and developed.

  • Comment 292, posted at 15.05.19 19:12:33 by sudhir Reply

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  • @sudhir (Comment 292) : In the future we’ll definitely be seeing more and more of our youngsters leaving even before making names for themselves. I read an article that the British and French have been sending scouts to Craven Week for the last few years and I personally know of at least one promising young lock, still 17yrs old, that’s off to France after matric.

  • Comment 293, posted at 15.05.19 19:54:15 by Karl Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 290) : Inside info? Can’t find any mention of this yet in the usual places online

  • Comment 294, posted at 15.05.19 22:24:04 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • There’s a lot of talented youngsters who do not make craven week squads because they don’t attend the elite schools. If players are being poached by international teams from these schools then maybe scouts should look at the lesser known schools for talent.

  • Comment 295, posted at 16.05.19 09:43:54 by sudhir Reply

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  • @Rienke36 (Comment 296) : https://www.iol.co.za/sport/rugby/coenie-to-prop-up-mancunian-sharks-23182479

  • Comment 296, posted at 16.05.19 09:50:29 by Rienke36 Reply

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  • @Rienke36 (Comment 297) : IOL included him in this article, but I haven’t seen it confirmed by the clubs.

  • Comment 297, posted at 16.05.19 10:07:48 by Rienke36 Reply

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  • @Rienke36 (Comment 297) : Thanks

  • Comment 298, posted at 16.05.19 10:18:56 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 291) : Exactly! very worrying time for the local game in SA.

  • Comment 299, posted at 16.05.19 12:12:17 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 294) : @Rienke36 (Comment 296) : thats where i saw it as well. I try find Mike’s articles because he is usually pretty accurate.

  • Comment 300, posted at 16.05.19 12:13:34 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Rienke36 (Comment 296) : Well the story is not completely accurate as it includes Jean-Luc and Dan being lost to the Sharks from this year, but they are expected back for SuperRugby next year.

  • Comment 301, posted at 16.05.19 14:48:27 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • First game of the weekend not going the Sharks way – Jags beat the Canes 28-20 in NZ to end up second on the log.

  • Comment 302, posted at 17.05.19 11:21:04 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • And neither did the second – Bulls beat the Rebels 32-17. After the weekend all the SA teams would have completed 12 games. If the Lions manage to beat the Highlanders the Sharks will be 4th on SA conference and 7th on the overall log.

    We can’t really afford to drop any games in the last stretch.

  • Comment 303, posted at 17.05.19 13:44:01 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Looks like Israel Folau is available now. Would be a good addition to the sharks back three. He may not be popular right now but rugby has has much worse thugs, rapists and others in the past, celebrated thanks to their onfield skills.

  • Comment 304, posted at 19.05.19 17:32:51 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 304) : Agreed

  • Comment 305, posted at 20.05.19 11:04:36 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • ruan botha gone next year to london irish

  • Comment 306, posted at 20.05.19 12:49:43 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • 5 of the starting 8 forwards from this match are leaving at the end of the season that is pretty hectic. We going to have to really alter our style of play because we looking at a very light weight pack next year more suited to a faster game plan.

  • Comment 307, posted at 20.05.19 14:24:27 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 307) : How do you arrive at 5 – Akker, Coenie, Botha confirmed. PvdW unconfirmed. Twins will be back for 2020 season, but will likely leave at the end of 2020.

  • Comment 308, posted at 20.05.19 15:48:46 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Does anyone know how Izzy Folau feels about playing lock?

  • Comment 309, posted at 20.05.19 16:34:10 by Karl Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 309) : That would probably depend who is playing 8th man. ;-) :twisted:

  • Comment 310, posted at 20.05.19 16:54:56 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 310) : And who his props and hooker are. :mrgreen: :twisted:

  • Comment 311, posted at 20.05.19 17:28:38 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 311) : Speaking of hookers… I know of one who’s out of a job as well… We can take in all the Aus outcasts!

  • Comment 312, posted at 20.05.19 19:04:32 by Karl Reply

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  • By hooker I mean the guy that wears the number 2 jersey on the rugby field. Get your minds out of the gutters!

  • Comment 313, posted at 20.05.19 19:05:17 by Karl Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 312) : @Karl (Comment 313) : I know prostitution is legal in all of eastern Aus….but….. :shock: :shock: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 314, posted at 20.05.19 20:33:27 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Karl (Comment 313) : Personally all I want to see on my hooker’s back is a tramp stamp :mrgreen: :shock: :twisted:

  • Comment 315, posted at 20.05.19 20:39:16 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Karl (Comment 312) : Yup, and all the pissed off Christian Pacific Islanders :mrgreen:

  • Comment 316, posted at 20.05.19 21:04:02 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 315) : Haha, vuilgat

  • Comment 317, posted at 20.05.19 22:16:51 by Karl Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 317) : :mrgreen: I didn’t start this discussion about outcast hookers.

  • Comment 318, posted at 20.05.19 23:41:30 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 308) : i didnt count the du preez’s but did count pvdw(newcastle) and vermuelen (exeter)

  • Comment 319, posted at 21.05.19 06:35:58 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • Don’t want to pour salt on an open wound but I also expect Bosch, Andre, Am, Nkosi and Mapimpi will leave when their contracts expire.
    Maybe time to try and sign Morne Steyn as he is keen to return to SA?!

  • Comment 320, posted at 21.05.19 09:12:53 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 320) : We can’t even do that! He’s going back to Loftus… I wonder if Earl Rose is keen for another run

  • Comment 321, posted at 21.05.19 10:53:50 by Karl Reply

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  • I see Richie Mounga and George Bridge are also in some hot water…

  • Comment 322, posted at 21.05.19 11:03:51 by Karl Reply

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  • Beast and Akker out thomas a doubt.

    Who is backup after majola? Still love the concept of some random prop being called up from club rugby to sit on the bench. What a moment that would be for the guy but I suppose we go to the supersport challenge or u19.

  • Comment 323, posted at 21.05.19 14:31:33 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • The way its going SA will only be able to field one team in Super Rugby (like the Jags). We now have 23-25 year olds leaving to go make money up north.

  • Comment 324, posted at 21.05.19 15:17:54 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 324) : You have to feel for the Bulls – they are losing all their locks plus the 7/8 that could be used at lock:

    Lood de Jager (Sale Sharks, England)
    RG Snyman (Honda Heat, Japan)
    Jason Jenkins (Canon Eagles, Japan)
    Hanro Liebenberg (Leicester Tigers, England)
    Eli Snyman (Treviso, Italy)

  • Comment 325, posted at 21.05.19 15:20:00 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 325) : Makes their decision to sell Ruben look silly.

    We heading back to the amateur era virtually where we will mix local youngsters and maybe some club players to form the sides. Will be entertaining still I am sure and every so often we will get a very decent team but they going to have to look at their ticket prices in that model.

    Also not sure you can command the TV revenue where the quality is clearly in the north.

  • Comment 326, posted at 21.05.19 15:30:06 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 323) : Well last season there were 2 brothers that were very highly rated youngsters once upon a time playing for Crusaders in Dbn north. Surely if injuries persist they’re not far off the radar. Kenny and George van Niekerk

  • Comment 327, posted at 21.05.19 15:36:58 by Karl Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 321) : The only run that Rose is capable of these days is a short sprint out of his nearest golf clubs doors.

  • Comment 328, posted at 22.05.19 12:04:11 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 328) : ha ha he does have quick hands though

  • Comment 329, posted at 22.05.19 12:07:02 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • Looking at Steve Haag’s Photos and website is always worthwhile.

    https://stevehaag.photoshelter.com/gallery/21-05-2019-PM-Sharks-Training/G0000BdeBvHEBjfE/C0000Yz7r1cCqA60

    ://twitter.com/STEVEHAAGSPORT (suggest you guys follow him if you on twitter)

    from the photos we can have a pretty good crack at the starting side for Saturday:

    1)Majola
    2)Kerron
    3)Coenie
    4) Van Heerden
    5)Botha
    6)PvDW
    7)Jean Luc
    8)Dan
    9)Schrueder
    10)Bosch
    11)Mapimpi
    12)AE
    13)AM
    14)Nkosi
    15)Fassi

    There are also some interesting photos of the reserve and squad players as well. We have Schoeman back in training as well as Burden and then there is Terra Mtembu

  • Comment 330, posted at 22.05.19 12:13:39 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 330) : Terra???? hasnt he had to call it a day?

  • Comment 331, posted at 22.05.19 12:46:04 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 331) : I would have with the amount of injury troubles he has had but he is back and I really hope he gets a couple injury free seasons to end his career.

  • Comment 332, posted at 22.05.19 12:52:47 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 332) : Yeah, thats why I thought he had called time on his career. Great for him that he is persevering. Did he go to the Kings for a stint

  • Comment 333, posted at 22.05.19 13:17:22 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 333) : I dont think so but I may be wrong. I think we sent Astle, Coetzee(hooker), Vulindlu and Sithole their way over the years.

  • Comment 334, posted at 22.05.19 14:26:55 by Byron Wright Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 332) : Terra is a hard worker, him and Pepsi. Nice to know we have these players in the fringes

  • Comment 335, posted at 22.05.19 16:08:22 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Byron Wright (Comment 330) : thanks for the reminder, I havnt had a look at his website in some time

    Glad to hear tera is back, we may find that his ability might be limited after all those injury lay offs but his vital to the team while his still around for the experience, the only reason why there’s speculation that we may have loaned him to the kings is because that was discussed as a option here when his most recent injury was announced

    Even though the lions won’t have Whiteley I wonder Bout our chances against them this weekend

    I Will have to see both team sheets before putting a pick in on superbru

    Is there a prize this season for our superbru pool?

  • Comment 336, posted at 22.05.19 20:10:53 by revolverocelot Reply

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