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Mapimpi starts in Wellington


Written by Henk Terblanche (Bokhoring)

Posted in :The Rugby Championship on 24 Jul 2019 at 07:50

Mapimpi, PSDT and Etzebeth remains into the starting team with the rest of the places reserved for the players that flew across earlier. Kwagga Smit will get a chance to prove that he can fit in at test level.

Great to see Frans Steyn on the bench again. In my opinion the Boks will stand zero change at the World Cup unless Steyn starts at inside centre.

Louw (who had one of his best games against the Wallabies) gets the loose forward bench spot ahead of Coetzee and Elstadt.

Thor captains the team even though Etzebeth is a starter.

15 Willie le Roux, 14 Cheslin Kolbe, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handre Pollard, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen (captain), 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Kwagga Smith, 5 Franco Mostert, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Malcolm Marx, 1 Steven Kitshoff

Substitutes: 16 Bongi Mbonambi, 17 Tendai Mtawarira, 18 Trevor Nyakane, 19 RG Snyman, 20 Francois Louw, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Frans Steyn, 23 Jesse Kriel



42 Comments

  • Clearly the Boks aren’t too worried about defence out wide and went with strike runners instead, so hope they create space for them. Nice to see Franco Smith come out of retirement and coaching and move into the lock position :mrgreen:
    I will be very interested to see how Kwagga Smith goes as I don’t believe the Boks do their best with smaller loose forwards but willing to be proven wrong

  • Comment 1, posted at 24.07.19 08:04:35 by SheldonK Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 1) : Well spotted. That is what you get if you copy and paste from supposedly professional news sites :oops:

  • Comment 2, posted at 24.07.19 08:15:18 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Not the team I would have chosen but to make one or two changes I’d have:
    Steyn and de Allende swapped around
    Start Coetzee and had Kwagga on the bench
    I’d have preferred Nkosi to start with Kolbe on the bench but if we must start Kolbe I’d definitely have Nkosi on the bench to come on for the last 20 minutes when NZ like to run the opposition ragged and I don’t have much confidence in Kolbe stopping a big NZ wing on his way to the try line.

  • Comment 3, posted at 24.07.19 08:33:53 by Hulk Reply

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  • anyone have any update on Jaco Kriel

    I follow the English league fleetingly

    Last I saw he was playing in the semi-final for Gloucester.

    to me, he seemed our best option at openside along with Kolisi (due respect too Louw and Marcell)

    Is he not being picked or just injured?

    Side note: maybe the sharks should try and recruit Roelof Smit, that’s a quality opensider when fit.

  • Comment 4, posted at 24.07.19 12:40:10 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 4) : Last I saw Jaco Kriel was still playing for Gloucester and doing fairly well but they run big squads there so doesn’t always play. But yeh would have liked to see more of him, he is quite injury prone though.

  • Comment 5, posted at 24.07.19 12:56:05 by SheldonK Reply

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  • I really don’t understand Rassie’s obsession with 3.FM & 12.DDA. Perhaps they surprise us who knows.
    But otherwise a really good team. Stoked Kwagga gets a go.

  • Comment 6, posted at 25.07.19 08:35:31 by Choochi Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 5) : I see he only played 8 games for Gloucester last season

    thus his, not a front line option I guess

  • Comment 7, posted at 25.07.19 10:31:06 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @Choochi (Comment 6) : I’m ok with DDA at 12, his actually affective now

    Well, he was, then he wasn’t, then he found his form again.

  • Comment 8, posted at 25.07.19 10:32:55 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • @revolverocelot (Comment 8) : So would you choose DDA in a Bok jersey over/ahead of Frans Steyn or Jan Serfontein (if fit). He was decent in SR for the Stormers, but just hasen’t lifted his game for the Boks lately. The last time he was any good for the Boks was when he first burst onto the scene, and I guess then he was an unknown entity to most at that level. But that’s just my personal choices.

  • Comment 9, posted at 25.07.19 10:53:27 by Choochi Reply

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  • @Choochi (Comment 9) : Frans Steyn all the way

  • Comment 10, posted at 25.07.19 12:47:20 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • It’s quite strange to see how even pundits extrapolate from the aus game to predict a strong showing by the bike against New Zealand. I can’t confidently draw any definite parralells here. Two very different opponents being challenged by two different bok teams. What evidence does anyone have that this team will connect at any level close to the “b” team and what guarantees of such sparkling individual performances and even the individuals themselves have changed. I think expectations are based on smoke at the moment.

  • Comment 11, posted at 25.07.19 13:38:39 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 11) : Bike = Bokke.

  • Comment 12, posted at 25.07.19 13:39:41 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 11) : Very interesting selection by the All Blacks, they definitely seem to be trying a few things. Suppose you can when you have quality depth

  • Comment 13, posted at 25.07.19 14:22:25 by SheldonK Reply

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  • 1. Joe Moody
    2. Codie Taylor
    3. Owen Franks
    4. Brodie Retallick
    5. Samuel Whitelock
    6. Shannon Frizell
    7. Matt Todd
    8. Kieran Read (c)
    9. TJ Perenara
    10. Richie Mo’unga
    11. Rieko Ioane
    12. Sonny Bill Williams
    13. Jack Goodhue
    14. Ben Smith
    15. Beauden Barrett

    Reserves: 16. Dane Coles, 17. Ofa Tuungafasi, 18. Angus Ta’avao, 19. Vaea Fifita, 20. Dalton Papalii, 21. Aaron Smith, 22. Anton Lienert-Brown, 23. George Bridge.

    This is, for me, a very, very good AB’s team and although I’m not a Bok supporter, I’m hoping they can show some consistency in their performance, which means their first-stringers can cope with some pressure put on them by the b-side’s good win last week.

  • Comment 14, posted at 25.07.19 14:23:42 by Karl Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 13) : I think they’re also not very flustered by these way out there predictions and comparisons that aren’t really substantiated. So they’re experimenting probably to throw the boks off on match day. Boks will go in expecting a certain opponent and pattern and the change may be enough to throw them for long enough to lose momentum and not build a strong platform early.

  • Comment 15, posted at 25.07.19 14:35:23 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 13) : Could prove a clever tactical change in shape.

  • Comment 16, posted at 25.07.19 14:36:07 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 14) : They are definitely expecting a lot of force in midfield by the looks of it.

  • Comment 17, posted at 25.07.19 14:37:20 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Expect to see Smith and Barret switching positions during attack and defense. They are preparing for a tough mid and many high ball contests.

  • Comment 18, posted at 25.07.19 14:42:23 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 14) : I think they are trying to see if they can fit Mo’unga and Barrett in the same team against a decent opposition. Also don’t think they have a clear idea of who will play right wing and full back, Ben Smith will be one but which position isn’t clear. Their loose forward combo is interesting indeed…think they giving the guys that played Argies a break after a tough physical encounter.

  • Comment 19, posted at 25.07.19 16:01:41 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 19) : If I were coach, I’d definitely try to get BB and RM in the same side! I’d probably also go with that Lam kid at 14 if the above doesn’t materialise, although then both wings would be very similar players and not really the formula of 1 big and 1 small that the AB’s have used in the past.

  • Comment 20, posted at 25.07.19 16:34:15 by Karl Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 11) : There are strong comparisons to the team that beat the AB’s in the Cake Tin last year, and which basically dominated the Blacks for 60 minutes in the return fixture in SA. So I would say there is reason to be optimistic. The addition if Kwagga is an interesting one, and could be a masterstroke. Bench arguably stronger than last year with Frans Steyn on the bench.

  • Comment 21, posted at 26.07.19 06:01:53 by KingCheetah Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 20) : Lam can blow hot and cold, he had one very good season mixed in between some very mediocre ones. I think their preference will be to play Jordie Barrett on the wing, or Sevu Reece against lessor opposition

  • Comment 22, posted at 26.07.19 08:16:27 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @KingCheetah (Comment 21) : That may be but comparisons I refer to is people and articles referring to the “b” team. See my post. The reference to the cake tin I haven’t commented on. But if I must, yes there are similarities in the player names competing. Also reference to Rassie reusing some recipes which may be a mistake since NZ are looking at disrupting their own structure possibly for exactly this reason. That being said one can only hope Rassie planned for quick adaptation by the team if this is the case. But this being SA….adapting is not very strong in our DNA…that’s as much as I’ll venture without seeing how much ingenuity and innovation he’s built in.

  • Comment 23, posted at 26.07.19 12:31:12 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 23) : I hope that bench introduced some fresh flavour if the cake tin recipe is discovered to be stale.

  • Comment 24, posted at 26.07.19 12:37:24 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @coolfusion (Comment 24) : I can see Steyn, Jantjies and Louw accomplishing this depending on when where they are injected.

  • Comment 25, posted at 26.07.19 13:30:55 by coolfusion Reply

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  • The smaller guys doing well – Kolbe and Kwagga punching above their weight. Pity the Boks don’t have enough variation on attack to have used their dominance in the first half

  • Comment 26, posted at 27.07.19 10:40:30 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • South African teams need to look at improving our ruck speed – starts with ball presentation

  • Comment 27, posted at 27.07.19 11:06:08 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Mapimpi is struggling of defense

  • Comment 28, posted at 27.07.19 11:11:06 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Ref and AR missing a clear knock

  • Comment 29, posted at 27.07.19 11:13:27 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • RG great player but sometimes really stupid

  • Comment 30, posted at 27.07.19 11:15:49 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Jantjies scores against the All Blacks. Man is on fire

  • Comment 31, posted at 27.07.19 11:22:27 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Boks burgle a draw

  • Comment 32, posted at 27.07.19 11:23:48 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 32) : So was it a cookie cutter of the last cake tin trip?

  • Comment 33, posted at 27.07.19 12:16:50 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 31) : Remember when Hougaard was still incumbent and faf the newer guy? Faf had been very unsettled and many times his own enemy. Then he had a very good game or two started getting much media love and suddenly a world class player. Is the much love also pumping Jantjies confidence enough tough differentiate him a bit beyond the rest of the pack?

  • Comment 34, posted at 27.07.19 12:21:17 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Frans Malherbe was pretty poor. Beast looking very good, scrumming like a machine.

  • Comment 35, posted at 27.07.19 13:26:12 by DBOY Reply

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  • Just my take on the weekend…
    Malherbe is too unfit and we need to look at Nyakane as first choice with someone else like Coenie on the bench.
    Our lineouts were woeful and very predictable and slow, and we couldn’t set up a maul.
    I was actually impressed with Kwagga and how he was used, I had my doubts but thought he did nicely.
    Backline defense was good barring Mapimpi, he really cant shoot out the line like that, but Dyanti does the same so hope its not a coached thing as its a glaring error.
    All Blacks really came out firing after half time but Boks did really well to contain them.
    I really do think that Steyn coming off the bench gives a bit of a fear factor for opposition.

    And just watching on the weekend- the Boks could do worse than having a look at William Small-Smith…talented, can defend and has good pace.

  • Comment 36, posted at 29.07.19 08:48:37 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 36) : It seems with all the emphasis on “expansive rugby” South Africans have lost the art of mauling.

  • Comment 37, posted at 29.07.19 09:26:31 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 36) : Congrats to the Boks. Yep, Malherbe is a liability. What about Mr Incredible, Vincent Koch, you don’t rate him? I do think that shooting up is a part of the game plan, but they’ll definitely have to adapt, because those little dinks in behind the line could be deadly if the attack is deep enough

  • Comment 38, posted at 29.07.19 10:39:38 by Karl Reply

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  • @Karl (Comment 38) : I forgot about Koch, yes id probably take him over Coenie to be honest. And if the wing shooting in is part of the gameplan its a huge mistake and will cost us.

  • Comment 39, posted at 29.07.19 10:58:32 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 39) : I think the best option would be for the D to rely on the 9, and have him make the call, then you’d alternate, either 9 shoots up and wing hangs back or the d line rushes up and 9 sweeps. This would obviously mean that the 9 would need to be in Faf’s form from 2018 and the communication would have to be slick and decisive.

  • Comment 40, posted at 29.07.19 13:46:58 by Karl Reply

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  • Interesting analysis and this dude is quite funny

  • Comment 41, posted at 02.08.19 16:09:38 by Choochi Reply

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  • @Choochi (Comment 41) : Human being attached to Jack Goodhue’s hair – Bwahahaha

  • Comment 42, posted at 03.08.19 11:29:20 by Bokhoring Reply
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