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Powerful Bok pack and bench for Japan


Written by Henk Terblanche (Bokhoring)

Posted in :RWC 2019 on 17 Oct 2019 at 08:30

This is clearly a team that plans to take on the fleet-footed Japanese team using the powerful Bok pack to prevent them from getting their high speed attacking game going. Lood starts next to Etzebeth with Snyman and Mostert on the bench.

The question will be if the Japanese can repeat what the All Blacks did in the opening game against the Boks – patiently probing SA’s rush defense until the cracks opened and they capitalized on any opportunity. The Japanese do not have the experience of the All Blacks but they certainly will not lack for belief especially with a very passionate crowd behind them.

The Boks should use their forward power to push for scrum penalties, maul the Japanese all day long and use their big runners to punch holes in the Japanese defense. Hopefully Rassie has learned the lessons of Brighton where the Japanese operated in tandem with low tacklers to cut the big Bok one off runners down and then using the second player to tackle on the ball or poach the ball at the breakdown.

This will be a fascinating match up between two completely different playing styles – power vs speed.

15 Willie le Roux, 14 Cheslin Kolbe, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handre Pollard, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siya Kolisi (c), 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 RG Snyman, 20 Franco Mostert, 21 Francois Louw, 22 Herschel Jantjies, 23 Frans Steyn.



88 Comments

  • I have a bad bad feeling about this……………………. hope I’m wrong but personally I don’t think this is the strongest match day squad!!!

  • Comment 1, posted at 17.10.19 14:57:58 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 1) : My thoughts are that we will win , however Japan will have their moments in the match

    Most likely Wales (possibly France) in the semi, Wales will be very tough to get past, France (see Japan) and then we have the best chance in the final against England, Ireland or NZ in the final may be a bridge to far for us.

  • Comment 2, posted at 17.10.19 22:20:28 by revolverocelot Reply

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  • A Bok win will depend of their error rate and penalty count. If the Boks limit their errors then they should win comfortably. Japan will rely on the Boks making errors and trying to capitalise on those. I also think Wales will be waiting in the semi…

  • Comment 3, posted at 18.10.19 08:42:03 by SheldonK Reply

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  • The Springbok plan is clearly to achieve dominance up front, aggressive defense when Japan on attack. The thing is, a mistake like a high tackle on an already short and ‘dipping’ Nipponese, or a spear tackle by accident and the team is in trouble.

  • Comment 4, posted at 18.10.19 09:00:16 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 1) : Agreed, I also think the replacement philosophy is limited…Jantjies and Frans as only backline players. Would have preferred Nkosi to Mapimpi.

  • Comment 5, posted at 18.10.19 09:02:20 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • @SeanJeff (Comment 5) : Also no very mobile loosies one could squeeze into the backs in a pinch. The likes of Kwagga or Jaco Kriel could have been useful there.

  • Comment 6, posted at 18.10.19 09:05:25 by Karl Reply

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  • Also query some of Erasmus dodgy selections, but the Boks should have this one.Since the first game weeks ago against the A.B’s Boks have hardly raised a sweat against sub standard oposition Japan on the other hand have had to play four incredible tough teams.The Japs don’t have a huge lot of talent in reserve and have had to keep best team on field for most of the games.Boks on the other hand have been able to play third choice players out of position and still win.
    We should have the fresher players be very surprised if we lose ,the semi will be a different story.
    France,England and New Zealand are all also one game fresher

  • Comment 7, posted at 18.10.19 10:52:33 by The hound Reply
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  • Im fairly confident that a dodgey red card for a dubious high tackle is going to determine at least one match during the world cup playoffs…just wonder which team it will affect…

  • Comment 8, posted at 18.10.19 12:10:24 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 8) : Watch the French refs…..

  • Comment 9, posted at 18.10.19 13:06:35 by Hulk Reply

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  • The All Black – England semi is going to be a cracker of a game. Both managed to get passed their opponents with hardly breaking a sweat.

  • Comment 10, posted at 19.10.19 14:04:44 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Both had an extra week off and had played one match less

  • Comment 11, posted at 19.10.19 16:16:48 by The hound Reply
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  • Jaco toilet peyper missing offsides red shirts like his blowing a lions game, what a match France VS Wales so far

  • Comment 12, posted at 20.10.19 09:45:12 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 12) : *He’s

  • Comment 13, posted at 20.10.19 09:48:34 by jdolivier Reply

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  • French flair is on fire in Japan today

  • Comment 14, posted at 20.10.19 09:54:11 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Stupid red card for French lock loses them the game

  • Comment 15, posted at 20.10.19 11:13:15 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • The box kick tactic is not working. How long are we going to continue with that?

  • Comment 16, posted at 20.10.19 12:42:28 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • We cannot win this game by just tackling

  • Comment 17, posted at 20.10.19 12:43:07 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • This is not looking good for SA

  • Comment 18, posted at 20.10.19 12:45:06 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 16) : Agree. We have 18% possession. All de Klerk pissing away the ball. If you lose 10 box kicks Arial contests in a row you know it’s kicker or gathering it both. Change tactics. I think we will do better with Jantjies on faf is wasting our time we need to be pulling ahead and hitting our stride by now.

  • Comment 19, posted at 20.10.19 13:02:10 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Major oppo stuffed up by Am

  • Comment 20, posted at 20.10.19 13:04:48 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 19) : Reinach would’ve been a better start, faf and Willie have been kak all world cup

  • Comment 21, posted at 20.10.19 13:07:10 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Our best attacking player has touched the ball once

  • Comment 22, posted at 20.10.19 13:08:57 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • How was the Japanese defense not offside at that maul?

  • Comment 23, posted at 20.10.19 13:11:26 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Fucking hell Willie is the textbook definition of pathetic

  • Comment 24, posted at 20.10.19 13:11:46 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 23) : Homeground advantage

  • Comment 25, posted at 20.10.19 13:12:17 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 24) : Should have gone with Nkosi at 14 and Kolbe at 15

  • Comment 26, posted at 20.10.19 13:13:28 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 26) : Zero arguments, also reinach to start

  • Comment 27, posted at 20.10.19 13:14:27 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Boks have fucked up 3 try scoring opportunities

  • Comment 28, posted at 20.10.19 13:15:19 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Delleande should have been awarded a try there

  • Comment 29, posted at 20.10.19 13:16:37 by byron Reply

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  • Faf is all over on defense but we have not once benefited positively from one of his box kicks

  • Comment 30, posted at 20.10.19 13:16:38 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Of we continue with this braindead box kick plan I am going to start supporting Japan. I dont mind if it was working – but it is not

  • Comment 31, posted at 20.10.19 13:23:35 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Arms around the neck – should have been a yellow

  • Comment 32, posted at 20.10.19 13:33:08 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Willie is having a kak game. Another try fucked up

  • Comment 33, posted at 20.10.19 13:37:15 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 33) : Willie has had a kak world cup, frans steyn can play fullback, take Willie off

  • Comment 34, posted at 20.10.19 13:38:45 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Kick for the corner and maul. We need a try to put the fire out of Japan

  • Comment 35, posted at 20.10.19 13:39:26 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Please take faf off what the actual fuck rassie

  • Comment 36, posted at 20.10.19 13:48:27 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 36) : Problem is he is playing to plan

  • Comment 37, posted at 20.10.19 13:48:54 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Barnes not good enough to ref at this level

  • Comment 38, posted at 20.10.19 13:49:13 by byron Reply

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  • Kick for the corner and close out the game

  • Comment 39, posted at 20.10.19 13:50:02 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 37) : So take rassie off, this plan will result in a 50-0 trouncing against any decent opposition

  • Comment 40, posted at 20.10.19 13:50:10 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Barnes is very lenient on Japan

  • Comment 41, posted at 20.10.19 13:52:52 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • So around the neck in the air isn’t red, maliciously grabbing the head isn’t either, what rules apply today

  • Comment 42, posted at 20.10.19 13:59:28 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Finally

  • Comment 43, posted at 20.10.19 13:59:33 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • 21-3

  • Comment 44, posted at 20.10.19 14:00:28 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Ok take Faf off now please. We have the buffer.

  • Comment 45, posted at 20.10.19 14:01:25 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Game is not over

  • Comment 46, posted at 20.10.19 14:03:27 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Now it is ovet

  • Comment 47, posted at 20.10.19 14:04:57 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Great vision from Pollard to take the gap and not kick the turnover ball

  • Comment 48, posted at 20.10.19 14:06:03 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Mapimpi 2 – Ferraris 0

  • Comment 49, posted at 20.10.19 14:06:20 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Please take Faf off now

  • Comment 50, posted at 20.10.19 14:07:18 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • De Allende has been monstrous on defense today

  • Comment 51, posted at 20.10.19 14:07:53 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Shoulder charge on Pollard goes unpunished

  • Comment 52, posted at 20.10.19 14:09:20 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Barnes really having a shocker

  • Comment 53, posted at 20.10.19 14:10:14 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 52) : 3 yellows and a red missed by Barnes

  • Comment 54, posted at 20.10.19 14:10:37 by jdolivier Reply

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  • Brutal defense, forward power and great finishing from Mapimpi wins the game for us

  • Comment 55, posted at 20.10.19 14:38:34 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • All I can say is with Faf and Willie in current form, and with this idiotic box kicking (which every rugby commentator and critic and ex player completely baffled) plan we will not progress past Wales. I recall everyone getting up in arms about hougaard doing the same thing and yet the coach is not once reprimanding faf. In fact it rather seems like faf is following an instruction or game plan to execute these pointless and dangerous kicks which he hasn’t and will not master in this year. 17 kicks from hand 17 of them box kicks. 0 of them successfull 100% of them wasting time and losing possession. Is Erasmus a complete idiot?

  • Comment 56, posted at 20.10.19 19:21:24 by coolfusion Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 55) : Yup we only bullied a win. Next week we won’t have that weak fallback.

  • Comment 57, posted at 20.10.19 19:22:13 by coolfusion Reply

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  • Rassie is supposed to be a master tactition. So how is Faf in this team? When he came off, he was high fiving all the players; i’m surprised no one slapped him!

  • Comment 58, posted at 20.10.19 21:34:37 by dawj Reply

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  • So there seems to be a lot of people voicing their concerns over le Roux and his performances so far, with many calling for the Kolbe shift to 15 and Nkosi coming in at 14.

    I was a big supporter of this but so late in the tournament I’m concerned about playing untested combinations. Kolbe has been fantastic this year, he’s making his tackles, been solid under the high ball and his attacking play brilliant, but still feel the time came and went to try the above combo and we now need to accept the back 3 we have.

  • Comment 59, posted at 21.10.19 07:29:39 by Hulk Reply

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  • Beast and the Boks very lucky to escape a red card- a red card could well have lost this for the Boks and think if he went TMO it would be red so we can all thank Wayne Barnes.
    In terms of the tactics…its interesting how every single coach since Jake White has resorted to this tactic when the pressure is on, they all talk a good attacking game and they employ it against the minnows but as soon as the big games come along then its box kick and chase, every coach has done the same and every scrumhalf gets crucified as a result.
    Are our players not fit enough to play ball in hand against the better teams or are the coaches just to worried about handling mistakes giving the oppositions chances. Either way I cant see this tactic changing, and Wales are much better than us at contesting, winning and counter attacking off high bombs.

  • Comment 60, posted at 21.10.19 08:31:31 by SheldonK Reply

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  • All that this game showed is that we are really poor at executing box kicks (both the kick and the chase and contest) and even poorer at receiving box kicks (Unless its Kolbe or Pollard taking the catch we have problems)

  • Comment 61, posted at 21.10.19 09:25:16 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Hulk (Comment 59) : Worry with Kolbe is that he looks very uncomfortable with that ankle.

  • Comment 62, posted at 21.10.19 09:26:27 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 60) : Beast tackle was only yellow as the player landed on his arm/shoulder and not his neck/head. If the tackle was deemed so bad that it deserves a red card he would have been sighted. That said I think it was a “brain fart” moment that could have easily cost the Boks dearly!

  • Comment 63, posted at 21.10.19 10:59:48 by JD Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 60) : I know that Faf is playing to the game plan as decided by the coach but his execution of the box kick is the problem! It is either to far to be contested or straight up in the air (almost landing on his own head)!!!

  • Comment 64, posted at 21.10.19 11:02:39 by JD Reply
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  • @coolfusion (Comment 56) : @dawj (Comment 58) : @Hulk (Comment 59) : @SheldonK (Comment 60) : @Bokhoring (Comment 61) : ja unfortunately I can not see Rassie making any changes to the team or tackicks!!! So as I see it we have a chance of beating Wales but will struggle to beat England or NZ with this kick and pray tactics!!

  • Comment 65, posted at 21.10.19 11:08:23 by JD Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 62) : Personally I would take a chance and “rest” Kolbe for the Whales match to ensure he’s 100% ready should we reach the final. But like I previously said I can’t see Rassie changing anything for the remaining games.

  • Comment 66, posted at 21.10.19 11:24:43 by JD Reply
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  • @JD (Comment 63) : Ive seen TMO’s suggest Red Cards for far less than Beasts tackle. Trust me he is very lucky. The tackle on Vermuelen that earned a red card was very similar. We are lucky that Wayne Barnes was level headed as majority of the crowd were baying for Red.

  • Comment 67, posted at 21.10.19 11:37:47 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 67) : The challenge on mapimpi was red, kolbe head gear grab was yellow, louw had a shoulder charge clean out that he got off without a word said. Barnes missed a lot

  • Comment 68, posted at 21.10.19 12:29:33 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @jdolivier (Comment 68) : Was he feeling guilt for not giving Beast a red perhaps as all those incidents were in 2nd half if not mistaken?

  • Comment 69, posted at 21.10.19 12:42:41 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Boks better prepare for an aerial deluge. For a team that uses the box kick and chase as primary “attacking” play we are actually surprisingly poor under the high ball. Wales would have noticed that. Expect them to use box kicks, up and unders and cross kicks to good effect.

  • Comment 70, posted at 22.10.19 09:05:15 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 70) : And both Bigger and their scrumhalf Davie are very good at it. More of my concern is Jerome Garces, he has the ability to completely ruin a game and the better side may not win.

  • Comment 71, posted at 22.10.19 09:39:56 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 71) : Question is who will he hate more – the Welsh who were very lucky to squeeze France out of the WC, or SA for producing Jaco Peyper who may now be more popular with Sharks fans than French fans after his photo lapse?

  • Comment 72, posted at 22.10.19 09:47:41 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 72) : I really think its less of him hating anyone and more of him being incompetent. Really hope im wrong and we see a good game. Welsh will be up for it and we have struggled against them of late as they can negate our strengths.

  • Comment 73, posted at 22.10.19 10:07:28 by SheldonK Reply

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  • So we now know we’ve got Garces, so lets plan accordingly and when he makes a royal stuff up, as we know he will, we are prepared and don’t lose our minds and whine about it being unfair. We’ve played with Garces enough to know how crap he is and how he interprets the rucks, mauls and scrums, so lets adapt to that. We know he’ll make bad calls in general play, so lets accept that now and try to steel our mind against it. Last thing I want to hear is us complaining we lost because the ref made one bad call. I don’t believe any ref is intentionally bias but some, like Garces, are completely out of their depth at international level and on big occasions like a semi-final.

  • Comment 74, posted at 22.10.19 10:19:55 by Hulk Reply

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  • More than likely we will see the same team again this weekend. But if Rassie were to be bold and brave:
    1. Beast 2. Marx 3. Malherbe 4. Etzebeth 5. De Jager 6. Kolisi 7. PSDT 8. Vermuelen 9. Janjies 10. Pollard 11. Mapimpi 12. De Allende 13. Am 14. Kolbe 15. Steyn
    Bench: Kitshoff, Mbonambi , Koch, Snyman, Louw, De Klerk, Janjies, Le Roux

    That team make up allows the Boks to change tactics and strategy be deploying different personnel. It also has a realistic backup kicker if Pollard’s boot goes awry.

  • Comment 75, posted at 22.10.19 11:11:07 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 69) : All were 2nd correct

  • Comment 76, posted at 22.10.19 13:16:48 by jdolivier Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 75) : back 3 should be Mapimpi, Nkosi & Kolbe. Steyn on the bench in place of le Roux.

  • Comment 77, posted at 22.10.19 15:38:39 by JD Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 72) : bit of a brain fart by TP’s to pose for that photo! He might be the first ref to be red carded in the tournament.

  • Comment 78, posted at 22.10.19 15:40:27 by JD Reply
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  • Anyone else read the article about Pat Lambie joining the coaching team? Glad he is staying involved in rugby!

  • Comment 79, posted at 23.10.19 18:40:47 by HeinF Reply

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  • @JD (Comment 77) : I have also been saying that the last couple of weeks. That back 3 will keep any defense on their toes

  • Comment 80, posted at 23.10.19 18:41:48 by HeinF Reply

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  • @HeinF (Comment 79) : Yes saw that as kicking consultant and a bit of a mentorship role for the younger guys. I also see Hollywood Bets is on board as sponsor.

  • Comment 81, posted at 24.10.19 08:02:19 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 81) : Yes, I wonder is we will compete under the name “Hollywood Bets Sharks” or if we will remain just Sharks.

  • Comment 82, posted at 24.10.19 09:30:41 by HeinF Reply

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  • @HeinF (Comment 82) : I think Cell C still have the naming rights. Seems Hollywood Bets is on as co-sponsor, what ever that means and entails. They seem to be trying to associated with all kzn sport as they already heavily involved in the horse racing and cricket. And they make a damn good bunnychow

  • Comment 83, posted at 24.10.19 09:36:55 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Oi vey, Willie le Roux again * sigh*

  • Comment 84, posted at 24.10.19 11:17:36 by SeanJeff Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 83) : I would probably be a bit more sympathetic to them if they just concentrated on making bunnychows.

    Its amazing how the popularity and awareness of a bunnychow has grown.

  • Comment 85, posted at 24.10.19 13:24:31 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 83) : @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 85) : wonder if they offered and odds on the Bunnychow competition that they won? :twisted:

  • Comment 86, posted at 24.10.19 13:37:07 by JD Reply
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  • :lol: That would have been interesting.

  • Comment 87, posted at 24.10.19 13:46:54 by Salmonoid the Subtle Reply
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  • @Salmonoid the Subtle (Comment 85) : I mustnt be so harsh on Hollywood Bets, I actually appreciate all the sponsorships that they put into KZN sporting codes.

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