Rassie forced to shuffle his forwards pack

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Posted in :In the news, Stormers, Super 14 on 5 Mar 2008 at 13:45

Rassie Erasmus has been forced to make adjustments to his injury-hit team, for their Super 14 Round Four match against the Reds at Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane on Saturday, reports Rugby 365

Having failed to win a match in their first three starts, having scored just one try and having not scored a single point in their last 120 minutes of rugby, the Stormers coach is desperate for a drastic turnaround in fortunes.The most notable changes are to his pack, which suffered a further setback at training in Brisbane on Wednesday.

Springbok hooker Tiaan Liebenberg was ruled out of the four-match Australasian tour with a groin injury.

Erasmus had planned to start Schalk Brits in the No.2 jersey and play Liebenberg off the bench – after the latter had started in the first three rounds.

However, following the result of scans, which revealed the seriousness of the groin injury, it was decided that Liebenberg must return home to South Africa for rehabilitation.

Western Province Vodacom Cup hooker Deon Fourie will fly over to Brisbane to provide cover on the bench and will make his Super 14 debut if he gets game time.

In other changes Luke Watson comes in at his preferred position of openside flank, with Robbie Diack staying at No.8 and Pieter Myburgh providing loose forward cover on the bench.

Watson was a late withdrawal, with flu, from the side that lost 0-22 to the Crusaders last week – having played at No.8 in the earlier rounds.

Diack, Francois Louw and Myburgh were the loose forwards last week.

Stormers: 15 Conrad Jantjes, 14 Tonderai Chavhanga, 13 Gcobani Bobo, 12 Jean De Villiers (captain), 11 Sireli Naqelevuki, 10 Peter Grant, 9 Ricky Januarie, 8 Robbie Diack, 7 Francois Louw, 6 Luke Watson, 5 Andries Bekker, 4 Adriaan Fondse, 3 Brian Mujati, 2 Schalk Brits, 1 JD Moller.
Replacements: 16 Deon Fourie, 17 Brok Harris, 18 Ross Skeate, 19 Pieter Myburgh, 20 Bolla Conradie, 21 Gio Aplon, 22 Dylan Des Fountain.

Date: Saturday, 8 March
Venue: Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane
Kick-off: 19.05 (09.05 GMT)
Referee: Chris Pollock (New Zealand)
Touch judges: Lyndon Bray (New Zealand), Simon Moore (Australia)
Television match official: Steve Leszczynski (Australia)
Assessor: Gus Erickson (Australia)


  • as i said before, the stormers have the players and coach. do they have the cahoonas to win?

  • Comment 1, posted at 05.03.08 14:16:28 by try time Reply
  • Liebenberg coming home? He was one of their best players.

    WHO is Deon Fourie?

  • Comment 2, posted at 05.03.08 14:18:38 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • this is rotten luck. Liebenberg was one of their few real standout forwards

  • Comment 3, posted at 05.03.08 14:22:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • Let’s hope Bobo can hold onto his passes for once… or the wings wont be getting ball in space again…

  • Comment 4, posted at 05.03.08 14:25:51 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • ruled out for 4 matches. THAT is not just a little groin problem, 4 weeks is pretty serious. OUCH!!

  • Comment 5, posted at 05.03.08 14:25:58 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • what’s wrong with Shimange?

  • Comment 6, posted at 05.03.08 14:27:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • Yep KSA… was really one of the only shining lights in the side… great points on FL…

  • Comment 7, posted at 05.03.08 14:28:23 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • WHO is Deon Fourie?

    05.03.08 14:18:38 – KSA Shark ©

    mr fourie’s son.

  • Comment 8, posted at 05.03.08 14:28:25 by try time Reply

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    what’s wrong with Shimange?
    05.03.08 14:27:26 – robdylan

    He’s bleck. 😯

  • Comment 9, posted at 05.03.08 14:28:52 by wpw Reply
  • That’s really a shame. Feel sorry for the Stormers.

  • Comment 10, posted at 05.03.08 14:30:28 by Nessa Reply

  • Deon Fourie was a replacement hooker on Fri. Didn’t look nearly as good as Liebenberg though. And all of a suddden that pack loses grunt with the Brits coming into the front row, & the wannabe flyhalf back in the fold 🙄

    What with the travel delays etc, I fancy the Reds to take this & leave the Strormers with a 0-4 return.

  • Comment 11, posted at 05.03.08 14:31:22 by Le Requinny Reply
  • YEah, you gotta feel for Shimange. Obviously the selectors feel that his captaincy of the Vodacom Cup side is more important than the S14 😯

    Well I guess they do have a better chance of winning the VC…

  • Comment 12, posted at 05.03.08 14:32:36 by Le Requinny Reply
  • With the travel delays Fourie will be lucky if he makes NEXT weeks bloody game.

  • Comment 13, posted at 05.03.08 14:33:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Wes… don’t start

  • Comment 14, posted at 05.03.08 14:34:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • I ask myself that same question actually.

    Shimmie is captain of the VC side so therfore the best hooker if not player in that side.

    Then WHY send his understudy to Aus?

    I’d be pretty pissed if I was Shimmie

  • Comment 15, posted at 05.03.08 14:36:14 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Rob I think it was PJLD that said he (Shimmy) was playing VC… and looked well out of sorts… he said the same about Dollie…

    Don’t quote me on that…

  • Comment 16, posted at 05.03.08 14:38:44 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • Q***a


  • Comment 17, posted at 05.03.08 14:38:50 by Le Requinny Reply
  • Aaai Rob.

    Sorry dude. Wasn’t trying to stir.

    I just don’t get it. Shimmie is imho miles better than that showpony Brits and yet they select an U21 hooker (who has no S14 experience and hardly played CC) instead of SA’s all time leading bench warmer.

  • Comment 18, posted at 05.03.08 14:39:04 by wpw Reply
  • ❓ ❓ ❓

  • Comment 19, posted at 05.03.08 14:40:41 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • my ❓ ‘s are at Quinny BTW

  • Comment 20, posted at 05.03.08 14:41:32 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • poor Shimmie. Always the bridesmaid

  • Comment 21, posted at 05.03.08 14:42:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • s**t-*p Q****y!

  • Comment 22, posted at 05.03.08 14:43:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • lol @ RD

    KSA, fill in the blanks

    Brits didn’t impress on Fri. And to think DawieS selected him (at hooker 😯 ) in his S14 team of the week…

  • Comment 23, posted at 05.03.08 14:44:10 by Le Requinny Reply
  • don’t you mean

    s**p-*t , R*b?

  • Comment 24, posted at 05.03.08 14:44:47 by Le Requinny Reply
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    Province are playing the Valke at Brookside this Saturday,i have to be at a buddies place for a braai 😥

    Was impressed with Shimange last week,once he gets his fitness back he will be devastating, Jacobs was disappointing, looked very lazy and kept tripping people instead of trying to tackle them, it was disgusting.
    04.03.08 10:21:07 – provincejoulekkading

  • Comment 25, posted at 05.03.08 14:45:01 by wpw Reply
  • At BROOKSIDE really?

    Last been at Brookside in 2005, have the fields been redeveloped? Can they actually use the middle field now?

  • Comment 26, posted at 05.03.08 14:46:13 by Le Requinny Reply
  • It sucks yes, it sure does. 😡

  • Comment 27, posted at 05.03.08 14:46:21 by Namboer Reply

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    Brits didn’t impress on Fri. And to think DawieS selected him (at hooker 😯 ) in his S14 team of the week…
    05.03.08 14:44:10 – Le Requinny

    Dawie also selected Heinke VD Merwe at tighthead with Jannie Dup at loosehead (in that same team)


  • Comment 28, posted at 05.03.08 14:46:35 by wpw Reply
  • I think he’s on drugs or was p!ssed at the time of writing 😯

  • Comment 29, posted at 05.03.08 14:47:26 by Le Requinny Reply
  • Is Brookside the same place as Villagers RFC?

  • Comment 30, posted at 05.03.08 14:48:52 by Namboer Reply

  • I don’t have enough hair to be blond so i have no idea why I can’t get quinny’s first one. 😳

    The shut ups are easy.

  • Comment 31, posted at 05.03.08 14:50:43 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Correct Namboer

  • Comment 32, posted at 05.03.08 14:50:51 by provincejoulekkading Reply
  • I mean both, Q 🙂

    Dawie doesn’t actually watch rugby, guys… can’t fault his enthusiasm, though 😉

  • Comment 33, posted at 05.03.08 14:51:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • Keep trying, KSA 😉

    You’ll get it eventually… (I hope)

  • Comment 34, posted at 05.03.08 14:52:27 by Le Requinny Reply
  • This is for KSA, seeing as though we were discussing Thailand on the internet…

    Thai Buddhist monks ‘broke celibacy vows by flirting with women online’
    4th March 2008

    The Thai government was today investigating claims that Buddhist monks have broken their celibacy vows by flirting with women online.

    The supposedly ultra-faithful men are strictly forbidden from engaging in any sexual behaviour, which in practice means any contact with women.

    So allegations that some of the followers have been flouting this rule and “chatting up” women on social networking site hi5 has sparked a huge outcry in the deeply religious country.

    Even the comments of one user – “Monk Chat” – who reportedly sent a message to a woman that said “I miss you” was seen by many as a massive affront to Buddhist tradition in Thailand.

    Thai society expects most Buddhist males to spend at least two weeks in the monkhood during their lives to show their devotion to the religion.

    And a conservative public watchdog a group – the Network of Civilians to Protect the Nation, the Religion and the King – which reported the latest “violation” keeps a watchful eye on monks flouting the bans on sex or drinking.

    The Thai government are now seeking to keep tabs on the monks themselves, it emerged today.

    “We are looking for a way to monitor the use of the Web site by monks,” said Chakrapob Penkair, a minister attached to the Prime Minister’s office.

    He also asked other Thai Internet users to look out for monks conducting themselves in an unseemly manner online.

    “We urge people who use the site to tell monks to leave,” he said. “Other users need to show them that it is inappropriate for monks to chat with women online.”

    Last year, the Thai government blocked access to the YouTube video site for several months in a dispute about content deemed insulting to Thai King Bhumibol Adulyadej.

    When asked about the possibility of blocking hi5, Mr Chakrapob said the government needed to thoroughly consider its options because “the site is used as a database for many people and can be useful for many purposes.”

    The operators of California-based hi5 claim it is the No. 1 social networking site in more than 15 countries, including Thailand.

    However, they have so far failed to comment.

    A senior Culture Ministry official, Ladda Thangsupachai, said monks should not be banned from using the Internet because they can use it to teach Buddhist philosophy to the young.

    “Cyberspace can be very useful for monks,” he said. “But it’s wrong to use it to pick up girls.”

  • Comment 35, posted at 05.03.08 14:54:23 by Le Requinny Reply
  • Quinny wrong thread for thailand but thanks. 😉

  • Comment 36, posted at 05.03.08 14:56:14 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Still too many weak links in that team and a very average bench. I can’t see them coming away from the tour with many points at all!!

  • Comment 37, posted at 05.03.08 15:07:44 by Villie Reply
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  • I agree Villie.

    The senior guys like JDV, Jantjes, Bekker, Januarie and Bobo need to seriously step up.

    You can add Peter Grant to that list as well.

  • Comment 38, posted at 05.03.08 15:15:59 by wpw Reply
  • Bobo needs more to pass the ball sometimes, rather than step up methinks…

  • Comment 39, posted at 05.03.08 15:24:42 by Namboer Reply

  • Namboer

    I agree.

    Grant and JDV have not been able to get our back line going.

    Bobo had a good game against the Bulls but he needs to pass to our wingers…

  • Comment 40, posted at 05.03.08 15:34:24 by wpw Reply
  • The wingers only seem to get ball on a blind side move or when kicked upon. Bobo breaks the line nicely and needs only to relaese the supporter at speed but clings to it and get tackled.
    The Fijian is very slow, but strong. Very 7’s like still. Chavanga has not had a single moment of any importance so far..

  • Comment 41, posted at 05.03.08 15:39:38 by Namboer Reply

  • Didnt you watch last weeks game?

    Chavs had a few good runs and was quite good defensively.

    He is still not getting enuf ball though…

  • Comment 42, posted at 05.03.08 15:48:25 by wpw Reply
  • Cant wait until somebody put JdV back in his box… and I’m a WeePee man… how friggin sad is that.

    Do wonder if jdv will make the bok cut this year…

  • Comment 43, posted at 05.03.08 15:53:47 by VinChainSaw Reply
  • As a matter of fact I didn’t, and my contact who should’ve been PVRing it also didn’t come through. Glad Chavanga is looking better then, WP must utilise his pace to the fullest!!

    JdV needs to go back to wing, he’ll be a good replacement for the Fijian methinks.

  • Comment 44, posted at 05.03.08 16:09:36 by Namboer Reply


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