What’s wrong with Fred?

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 27 Mar 2008 at 08:22

It looks as though Dick Muir is determined to persist with Frans Steyn at flyhalf against the Reds this weekend. I really can’t fathom why.

Steyn is too slow for flyhalf and his poor decision-making at pivot against the Lions was largely responsible, to my mind, for the fact that the Sharks came nowhere near securing a four-try bonus point. Fred Michalak, on the other hand, is far too good and exciting a player to be picked on the bench, particularly given the fact that the Sharks absolutely have to score a bonus point this weekend.

Steyn had showed himself to be a pretty selfish player this year. A flyhalf’s role is that of playmaker; he needs to create space and opportunity for those around him. This is exactly what Steyn fails to do and exactly what Michalak is so good at. He is unpredictable and his teammates battle to understand what he’s going to do sometimes, but the only way that will come right is if he is giving game time. He was starting to look really good against the Blues and in particular, emphatically erased any question marks around his defensive capabilities in that match. Why is he not being given another opportunity?

I have a lot of respect and admiration for Frans Steyn’s undoubted talent and potential, but the youngster is not in form right now and playing him at flyhalf is a liability that the Sharks can ill afford as we attempt to catch a Crusaders team determined to run away with this year’s competition.


  • Captain’s ReportThursday, March 27, 2008 – 06:52

    Having enjoyed a bye last week, the players were granted a long weekend, but come the new week, everything was forgotten as the Sharks prepare for the challenge ahead – the match against the Reds on Saturday at The Absa Stadium Durban.

    “The break came at a really good time for us,” explains Captain Johann Muller. “You could see in training this week that the intensity is there, the guys are hungry and keen to get going again.

    “We aren’t speaking about the tour, we have the Reds this weekend and that’s the most important thing for us. We will start the tour on Sunday, so Saturday is the big one for us. We know the Reds are going to be tough, so that’s all we’re focused on and preparing for.”

    A year ago – about this time – the Brumbies had just lost to the Cheetahs fairly convincingly (38-20), and with the Sharks unbeaten at the time through six matches, the Brumbies game was supposed to be a mere formality ahead of the overseas trip. The Sharks lost 21-10 in a game everyone expected them to win, so the result of the Reds match this Saturday has huge implications for the way forward.

    The Sharks and coaching staff have also emphasised time and again this season that no games should be taken for granted. While the upsets this season haven’t been numerous, they have certainly occurred, and the Bulls losing to the Reds two weeks ago is certainly something to take cognizance of. The Reds have played their way out of the bottom of the log with fine performances in the past two weeks, and are going to prove formidable opposition.

    “They are a really good side,” agrees Muller. “They beat the Current Super 14 champs by 40 points two weeks ago and it is going to be tough. They play in Brisbane where the weather is very similar to Durban’s, hot, humid and muggy. But it isn’t about them, it’s about us, our preparation has been great and we just need to keep it up for Saturday.”

    With the weatherman predicting a maximum 27C, it should be a lot cooler in Durban than the past month – this bodes well for the kind of rugby the crowd would like to see. “Hopefully the weather on Saturday is cool; if it is we’ll try to have a bit more of a go than we have but it all depends on how the game turns out,” he explains.

    “But you know, if we win 13 out of 13 games and don’t get a single bonus point, we’ll still be in a home semi and probably home final. For us, at this stage, we’d like to play the kind of rugby we know we can play, and what people want to see, but winning is the priority and we have to make sure the game is won before we start throwing the ball around.”

    Currently second on log with a game in hand and with this year’s draw tougher than last year, the fact that the Sharks are on a par with their accomplishments at this stage a year ago puts into perspective their achievements.

    “We are doing really well, we’re doing enough to win every game, and that’s the most important thing,” he says. “The time will come – and I said that at the beginning of the season – when we are going to play an expansive game, when we throw the ball around and it’s going to be exciting to watch, and exciting for us to play, but for us, the first phase of our campaign is now over and we achieved what we wanted to.

    “But the second phase is going to be really important for us – it starts this weekend against the Reds and then we have a five week tour. Winning is the most important thing for us at this stage.”

    Watching the newest Sharks recruit, Epi Taione in training, you get the feeling that the opposition is going to have their work cut out containing him, and the Sharks Captain admits how pleased they are to have placed the final piece in their jigsaw puzzle.

    “It’s great to have him here – we all saw in the World Cup last year what a good player he is, so for us it’s really exciting to have a player like him in our team. He’s already fitting in after only a week and I am really excited to see him on the park.”

  • Comment 1, posted at 27.03.08 08:39:30 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • rob i have a feeling this might be the want of the bok coach

    but i also feel fred might be carrying a niggle

    the other thing i feel is steyn is gonna surprise us this weekend
    he started with that one break against the lions and i have a feeling its going to contiue from there

    i also prefer him at center , but remember an inside center is also a distibutor

    lets go along with dick mate we aint lost a game yet

    <<< keeps fingers crossed lol

  • Comment 2, posted at 27.03.08 08:42:57 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • do we interpret this as meaning that they aren’t going to chase the bonus point?

    No way we can go through 13 matches unbeaten with our tour schedule.

  • Comment 3, posted at 27.03.08 08:44:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • I hope the interpretation is wrong!! We should have had a couple of bonus points by now…rightly so, we have a tough tour ahead – I believe it can be done – but blieve is not always reality…so I hope they chase the 5 pointer this weekend….we sure need it!

  • Comment 4, posted at 27.03.08 08:47:20 by Ice Reply
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  • Come on Dick, hell even Adi’s a better flyhalf choice… 🙄

  • Comment 5, posted at 27.03.08 08:53:25 by Charlie Reply

  • is he gonna jol, Charlie?

  • Comment 6, posted at 27.03.08 08:54:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • sharks_lover,

    The Bok coach prefers Peter Grant… 😉

  • Comment 7, posted at 27.03.08 08:56:20 by Charlie Reply

  • Rob,

    Still a mistery… 🙄

  • Comment 8, posted at 27.03.08 08:59:23 by Charlie Reply

  • Why is the CAPTAIN’S REPORT under the MICHALAK thread? 😈

    Back to the topic…I really don’t understand why Michalak is being benched when he was starting to show his flair and adjusting well to the nature of Super rugby. Come on DM…for your sake I hope Steyn has a blinder on Sat.

  • Comment 9, posted at 27.03.08 09:20:37 by blackshark Reply

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  • Muir, one of the best super14 coaches ever, obviously sees something in Steyn as a flyhalf that others cant see and and has faith that by being given more opportunity in that position, he’ll find his form and expects the lad to produce a matchwinning show…Muir proved last season that patience pays off, things are no different now…we’re all expecting an improved attacking performance by the Sharks backline and i for one wont be surprised if it comes this weekend with Steyn at flyhalf… tho the bonus point is not absolutely neccessary, a win pretty much is.

  • Comment 10, posted at 27.03.08 09:22:44 by spykerbaard Reply

  • Stefan Terblanche, Odwa Ndungane, Waylon Murray, Brad Barritt, JP PIetersen, Frans Steyn, Ruan Pienaar, Ryan Kankowski, Keegan Daniel, Jacques Botes, Johann Muller (captain), AJ Venter, Jannie du Plessis, Bismarck du Plessis, Tendai Mtawrira. Bench: Craig Burden, BJ Botha, Albert van den Berg, Epi Taione, Rory Kockott, Frederic Michalak, Adrian Jacobs

    Seems this is the team…. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 11, posted at 27.03.08 09:28:45 by Ice Reply
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  • Yep, I agree. How can a player grow into a position if he doesn’t get to play there. It takes more than a game or 2 for a 12/15 to settle in at 10. Michalak is on the bench as security, at the end of the season he heads back to France, Steyn is home.

  • Comment 12, posted at 27.03.08 09:30:24 by Ollie Reply

  • OK – GHOST!!!!!!!!! Where’s you weekly column????? 🙄

  • Comment 13, posted at 27.03.08 09:37:42 by Ice Reply
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  • Ice, you desperate to get ahead of Debs again? 😉

  • Comment 14, posted at 27.03.08 09:39:05 by Ollie Reply

  • YEAHHH!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: She’s a tough cookie though! 😉

    It seems that we are the only 2 females in the top 7 – might be wrong – so correct me if I am!

  • Comment 15, posted at 27.03.08 09:41:04 by Ice Reply
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  • g’mornin Ice, i see they’ve been missing you, Ness, and the other gals over at the shark’s site

  • Comment 16, posted at 27.03.08 09:41:47 by spykerbaard Reply

  • That’s good going then. I had a dismal 1st week and last week so I have some catching up to do on you ladies, beware though, I am on my way up.

  • Comment 17, posted at 27.03.08 09:42:24 by Ollie Reply

  • Ahh Spyker – thats just me, loveable old Ice – always missed when I am not around! 😉

    Wonder where Ness is this morning – also missing my sidekick Debs!!

  • Comment 18, posted at 27.03.08 09:44:16 by Ice Reply
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  • Ollie- I had great first weeks – but seem to have lost my touch a little – but no worries – “I’ll be bacK” (in Arnold’s voice) 😉 So keep on eating my dust, babe!! 😆 😆

  • Comment 19, posted at 27.03.08 09:46:00 by Ice Reply
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  • well, you definitely add a bit of spIce…Ness too… who no doubt will be here shortly

  • Comment 20, posted at 27.03.08 09:47:54 by spykerbaard Reply

  • We’ll see about that. I’ll be around you faster that Ngwenya went around Hab’s at the RWC. 😉

  • Comment 21, posted at 27.03.08 09:48:39 by Ollie Reply

  • Thanks Spyker!! 😀 Sp-Ice Ice!!

    Ja-Ja, Ollie – catch me if you can??? If yur name is anything to go by…I doubt it!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 22, posted at 27.03.08 09:53:05 by Ice Reply
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  • hehehehe

  • Comment 23, posted at 27.03.08 09:54:13 by Ollie Reply

  • Patience, Ice… 😉

  • Comment 24, posted at 27.03.08 09:55:28 by Ghost10 Reply

  • I am not well known for my patients Ghost – plenty of other things 😉 but PATIENTS is not one of them! 😎

  • Comment 25, posted at 27.03.08 09:56:37 by Ice Reply
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  • patience…. 😳 😳 patients might be a diff story all together – if I was a Doctor!! 😆 😆

  • Comment 26, posted at 27.03.08 09:58:33 by Ice Reply
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  • Hahaha! It’s up on the site, if u wanna go and check it out… u might disagree with a few of them though

  • Comment 27, posted at 27.03.08 09:59:09 by Ghost10 Reply

  • Thanks!!! 😈 😈

  • Comment 28, posted at 27.03.08 10:01:47 by Ice Reply
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  • perhaps its good for SA that Steyn is played at, but I do think his best position is 12. Barritt is good too, but michelak is a specialist flyhalf. gotta be the old terreblance making way for steyn at 15, michelak at 10, barrit at 12, kockott at 9 and pienaar on the one wing where he looked incredibly dangerous for the boks.

    But i get the feeling for all the sharks talk of taking this game seriosuly, they are perhaps rotating and experimenting still.

    The one thing about the sharks is the versatility of their 22-man squad. Jannie can play LH/TH, Burden and Epi can play either in the backs or pack, and Pienaar and Steyn can play anywhere in the backline.

  • Comment 29, posted at 27.03.08 11:04:34 by cab Reply

  • Good morning everyone! Came in to quite a lot of work this morning.

    Can’t quite understand why they are persisting with Frans at 10. I thought Fred was doing nicely and starting to settle in – unless he is carrying an injury and they don’t want to push him for these “smaller” games?

  • Comment 30, posted at 27.03.08 11:16:10 by Nessa Reply

  • Okay – Adi not fit yet (pity). AJ starting.

  • Comment 31, posted at 27.03.08 11:17:50 by Nessa Reply

  • I see he is sticking with Keegan. Ruan starting at scrummie. Epi on the bench. Nice squad!

  • Comment 32, posted at 27.03.08 11:18:51 by Nessa Reply

  • Hi Ness – where did you see the team – is it final now?

    BTW – BF said you must forward the pic! 😆

  • Comment 33, posted at 27.03.08 11:22:39 by Ice Reply
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  • Hi Ice – they have just posted it on the Sharks website.

    Okay – will send it to you now.

  • Comment 34, posted at 27.03.08 11:24:44 by Nessa Reply

  • Thanks Ness!

  • Comment 35, posted at 27.03.08 11:25:27 by Ice Reply
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  • The Starting line-up is

    15. Stefan Terblanche
    14. Odwa Ndungane
    13. Waylon Murray
    12. Bradley Barritt
    11. JP Pietersen
    10. Francois Steyn
    9. Ruan Pienaar
    8. Ryan Kankowski
    7. Jacques Botes
    6. Keegan Daniel
    5. Johann Muller (Captain)
    4. AJ Venter
    3. Jannie du Plessis
    2. Bismarck du Plessis
    1. Tendai Mtawarira

    16. Craig Burden
    17. BJ Botha *
    18. Albert van den Berg
    19. Steven Sykes
    20. Epi Taione **
    21. Rory Kockott
    22. Frederic Michalak

    * 50th Super Rugby Cap
    ** Sharks and Super 14 debut

  • Comment 36, posted at 27.03.08 11:25:47 by Ice Reply
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  • Syksie is there! 😉

  • Comment 37, posted at 27.03.08 11:29:53 by Nessa Reply

  • Great team…looking forward to seeing Paddy in action…


  • Comment 38, posted at 27.03.08 11:33:12 by blackshark Reply

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  • I C Ness – IC!!! 🙂

    Big Fish – got the pic!!! Nice to put a face to a name – and TG you are not as scary looking as your profile pic!! 😆 😆 I feel much better now that I now you are proper Homo Sapiens and not some creature!!

  • Comment 39, posted at 27.03.08 11:33:57 by Ice Reply
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  • Adi not in…His impact will surely be missed… 😥

  • Comment 40, posted at 27.03.08 11:41:09 by Charlie Reply

  • Ai tog – sorry BS – who is Paddy?? Excuse the ignorance… 😳

    Agree Charlie – but at least my fav is in… 😉

  • Comment 41, posted at 27.03.08 11:44:23 by Ice Reply
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  • Most definitely Charlie…we’re so used to him giving us some supercharge…

    Still have a strong bench though…wonder how Muir will change things around in the 2nd half…

  • Comment 42, posted at 27.03.08 11:44:54 by blackshark Reply

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  • Ice- Paddy is IPI TOMBI ( as someone once called him) 😆

  • Comment 43, posted at 27.03.08 11:46:16 by blackshark Reply

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  • Blackshark…

    I think we can expect early changes in the 2nd half, even @ halftime… 😉

  • Comment 44, posted at 27.03.08 11:47:30 by Charlie Reply

  • Ag no man BS – you know I am very dof – Ipi Tombi = Beast??

  • Comment 45, posted at 27.03.08 11:49:28 by Ice Reply
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  • 😳 😳 😳 – Okey Shit – sorry – that WAS Dof!!! get it now…. 😳 😳

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 46, posted at 27.03.08 11:50:04 by Ice Reply
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  • Hey guys!

    Ice, Im glad me oogly mug didnt scare ya too bad. 😀

    But you do realise of course that the pic could be a fake (maybe off a model website 😉 ) and that I could maybe be a creepy non-human entity…

    I wonder if Adi is injured? Only reason they would not have him on the bench.

  • Comment 47, posted at 27.03.08 11:50:16 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Gosh – I need to get with the program!!! 😕 😕 :mrgreen:

  • Comment 48, posted at 27.03.08 11:50:56 by Ice Reply
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  • Ah, this old chestnut. 🙂

    I don’t think it’s complicated: Muir stated that he wants to “save” Fred for the tough overseas campaign that is sure to follow.

    Despite his kind words about the Reds, it’s clear that he doesn’t consider them a big enough threat to play his best-configured back line against them.

  • Comment 49, posted at 27.03.08 11:51:22 by Waz Reply

  • Hi BF – glad you decided to entertain us with your presence… 😆

    It takes a lot to scare ol Sp-Ice Ice…(although this profile pic of yours does just that!) – and I realise it could be fake…but so can mine 😈 😈

  • Comment 50, posted at 27.03.08 11:53:19 by Ice Reply
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  • Can’t help but smile when I look at that team 😀

    At the risk of sounding like a cd with a major scratch…we should really get the full house here.

  • Comment 51, posted at 27.03.08 11:55:32 by blackshark Reply

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  • Ice, you really crack me up!

    Ipi tombi = Beast 😆

    SA 540 all out.

  • Comment 52, posted at 27.03.08 11:56:55 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Ice…I can handle your face being fake…but pls don’t say the boep was fake as well… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 53, posted at 27.03.08 11:57:59 by blackshark Reply

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  • Ice, no need to tell us if your are fake – thats between you and your plastic surgeon… 😛

  • Comment 54, posted at 27.03.08 11:58:30 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Ipi Tombi – Zulu / black language (not that I think Beast is a Girl!!! Oh Gosh – i really made a mess of this one! – I made the wrong conclusion…SSSOOO Sorry!!! (I do NOT want a angry BEAST coming at me!!_

  • Comment 55, posted at 27.03.08 12:01:11 by Ice Reply
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  • BS – that boep is REAL – i dont believe in faking.. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 56, posted at 27.03.08 12:03:10 by Ice Reply
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  • Oh my! 😳


  • Comment 57, posted at 27.03.08 12:06:26 by Big Fish Reply
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  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Could not help that one…. 😉

  • Comment 58, posted at 27.03.08 12:07:36 by Ice Reply
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  • We were on the subject of “fakes’….right?? 😆

  • Comment 59, posted at 27.03.08 12:09:50 by Ice Reply
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  • i have eventually found all of you

  • Comment 60, posted at 27.03.08 12:15:55 by sharksboy Reply

  • fakes or flakes 😈

  • Comment 61, posted at 27.03.08 12:16:20 by Ollie Reply

  • ❓ ❓ ❓

    S-Boy – on this site you have to wear your takkies boet an be rather fit – nie vir enige sissie nie! 😉

  • Comment 62, posted at 27.03.08 12:20:43 by Ice Reply
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  • baie dankie ice.ek is nog redelik vinnig vir a ou man.LOL

  • Comment 63, posted at 27.03.08 12:23:57 by sharksboy Reply

  • No prob SBoy – just some free advise!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 64, posted at 27.03.08 12:26:12 by Ice Reply
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  • Ice, I take it you are a natural blonde then?

  • Comment 65, posted at 27.03.08 12:41:50 by Big Fish Reply
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  • thanks ice

  • Comment 66, posted at 27.03.08 12:48:48 by sharksboy Reply

  • What made you come to that conclusion. BF?? 😳

  • Comment 67, posted at 27.03.08 12:49:40 by Ice Reply
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  • No reason – just curious.

    I dont suppose it matters – as long as the collars and the cuffs match hey? 😈

  • Comment 68, posted at 27.03.08 12:53:42 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Thought it was carpet and curtains BF? 😀

  • Comment 69, posted at 27.03.08 12:55:36 by Waz Reply

  • I thought it was my really imaginative conclusion about Ipi tombi… 😆 😆

    I suppose I am quite a reason sometimes that blonde jokes excist! But I do see myself as a sort of Einstein…you know – “die verstrooide professor”… :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 70, posted at 27.03.08 12:56:37 by Ice Reply
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  • The collers, cuffs, carpets and curtains ALL match…. 😎

  • Comment 71, posted at 27.03.08 12:59:23 by Ice Reply
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  • Ag no man 😯 😯 😯 I am subtracting that statement…my ability to think straight today is clearly letting me down…WHAT was I thinking??? 😳 😳

    I should go home and find my dirty mind – I am putting my foot in it time after time today…dammit! 😳

  • Comment 72, posted at 27.03.08 13:01:38 by Ice Reply
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  • 😆 at Waz!

    Thats the domesticated man’s euphemism – I still have my freedom! 😈

    Ice – very thorough of you.

    Of course lots of people are doing away with cuffs and replacing carpets with tiles nowdays.

    But being an 80’s child… 😉

  • Comment 73, posted at 27.03.08 13:03:01 by Big Fish Reply
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  • See previous comment…I was thinking way too innocent when I commented…Carpets are way out of fashion..

    End of discussion …

  • Comment 74, posted at 27.03.08 13:06:25 by Ice Reply
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  • You bleach your carpet Ice? 😛

  • Comment 75, posted at 27.03.08 13:07:42 by VinChainSaw Reply
  • lol. Guess there’s no bleaching going on there then… more like tiles!

  • Comment 76, posted at 27.03.08 13:08:16 by VinChainSaw Reply
  • Back on topic:
    Ice, the first game this weekend will be the big decider whether I catch you up or not, I reckon the ‘Saders are going down.

  • Comment 77, posted at 27.03.08 13:12:12 by Ollie Reply

  • Hey kitty kat… long time!

  • Comment 78, posted at 27.03.08 13:13:45 by VinChainSaw Reply
  • Yep, new job is keeping me out of mischief.

  • Comment 79, posted at 27.03.08 13:15:20 by Ollie Reply

  • Ollie – I really hesitated when making that pick – even with Ghost’s advise – I took his advise – but my little voice said otherwise….for once I decided to put my trust in someone else…hope it will pay dividends…. 😆 😆

  • Comment 80, posted at 27.03.08 13:15:21 by Ice Reply
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  • Dividends for me I trust. 🙂

  • Comment 81, posted at 27.03.08 13:21:46 by Ollie Reply

  • Last I checked I was the only one going for a ‘Canes win.

  • Comment 82, posted at 27.03.08 13:22:26 by Ollie Reply

  • Ollie back to restore some sanity again.

    Damn his eyes… 😛

  • Comment 83, posted at 27.03.08 13:24:56 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Munchies time, brb.

  • Comment 84, posted at 27.03.08 13:27:01 by Ollie Reply

  • Thanks Ollie…. 😉

  • Comment 85, posted at 27.03.08 13:38:16 by Ice Reply
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  • The Hurricanes certainly have the goods. To be honest I don’t see how the Crusaders can maintain their current form into the late stages of the contest. I guess we’ll see. They are superbly fit, after all.

  • Comment 86, posted at 27.03.08 13:53:34 by Waz Reply

  • I hope Ollie’s investment does not pay …. 😕 Now dont you come with the clever debating, WAZ!! 😡 😡 Let the saders be, (winners that is!!)


  • Comment 87, posted at 27.03.08 13:56:20 by Ice Reply
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  • Waz, the Crusaders are not just very fit, but they have plenty of “star” players who can turn games around.

    In addition, they are superbly coached, so that when under pressure their structures and organisation don’t fall apart.

  • Comment 88, posted at 27.03.08 13:58:07 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Well, time will tell, it always does.

  • Comment 89, posted at 27.03.08 13:58:36 by Ollie Reply

  • BF, the AB’s is made up of star players and look what has happened to them every 4 years

  • Comment 90, posted at 27.03.08 14:00:03 by Ollie Reply

  • is = are, damn the flemish

  • Comment 91, posted at 27.03.08 14:00:32 by Ollie Reply

  • Ollie, sound like you are trying to convince yourself here that you have made the right choice…. 😉

  • Comment 92, posted at 27.03.08 14:01:24 by Ice Reply
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  • Ice, I’ve got to do that with every choice in every round. 🙂

  • Comment 93, posted at 27.03.08 14:04:49 by Ollie Reply

  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 94, posted at 27.03.08 14:09:34 by Ice Reply
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  • True Ollie, but while the ABs have been consistently psyched out by not being able to win the WC, the Crusaders can take confidence from having won it many times.

    Big difference!

  • Comment 95, posted at 27.03.08 14:21:07 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Good afternoon all! Trust you have all been behaving while I have been gone?

  • Comment 96, posted at 27.03.08 14:24:21 by Nessa Reply

  • Oh Gosh Ness – i had a couple of really bad blunters today – just because of total ignorance – so sorry!!! 😳

  • Comment 97, posted at 27.03.08 14:26:17 by Ice Reply
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  • Agree on the star quality of the ‘Saders BF. However I do think that they are as susceptible to pressure as the next team: putting key men like Richie and Dan under strain creates gaps in their play that can be exploited. But I suppose that’s true of any team.

    I actually think that what the Crusaders really have in big fat hairy shitloads is a winning mentality. They just seem to set out in every game like they’re going to squash their opponents mercilessly, and rarely display the self-doubt that our own teams seem to wallow in at times.

  • Comment 98, posted at 27.03.08 14:26:20 by Waz Reply

  • It’s okay Ice – we all have those days.

  • Comment 99, posted at 27.03.08 14:28:34 by Nessa Reply

  • 27.03.08 14:26:17 – Ice

    “i had a couple of really bad blunters”….she even had a blunder or 2 as well 😉

  • Comment 100, posted at 27.03.08 14:29:11 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • GEEZ DIVE PASS – Give the Dutchie a break!! 😉

  • Comment 101, posted at 27.03.08 14:30:59 by Ice Reply
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  • DP – I thought I would let that one pass … 😉

  • Comment 102, posted at 27.03.08 14:31:46 by Nessa Reply

  • Your English is more delicious as my gebroke Afrikaans…

  • Comment 103, posted at 27.03.08 14:32:56 by Dive Pass Reply

    Dive Pass
  • Ness – is Debs coming tonight?

    Jinne – I wanna see you Souties gooi the Afrikaans!! 😉 😉

  • Comment 104, posted at 27.03.08 14:33:10 by Ice Reply
    Competition Winner Ice
  • I don’t know Ice – I sent her the address and place yesterday and haven’t heard from her. Will send her another message. She was going to try and be there.

  • Comment 105, posted at 27.03.08 14:36:20 by Nessa Reply


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