Moronic Marks saves the Sharks

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 5 Apr 2008 at 12:08
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Dick Muir’s team escaped with a draw after a controversial match in Wellington that saw Tongan import Epi Taione red-carded for a stupid head-butt on ‘Canes second rower Jeremy Thrush.

With the scores locked at 13-all in the final seconds and with the Sharks throwing everything into defence, though a man down, referee Paul Marks failed to award a clear-cut penalty try to the home team on the final hooter, thus saving Brad Barritt’s blushes. Barritt pulled off a clear early tackle on the surging Conrad Smith who was sure to dot down after the ball was hacked forward into the Sharks in-goal area.

It was by no means the first call that Marks got wrong on the night. The Australian referee showed his inexperience and lack of feel for the game throughout the night, blowing repeatedly for meaningless technical “half infringements” and overreacting to virtually everything that happened. A clear case in point was the Sharks own score, a penalty try after it was ruled that the home team collapsed a maul with the Sharks sure to score. It was a big call; one that a more experienced referee probably wouldn’t have made.

The first half was a tight affair, with neither side prepared to give the ball any air. The Sharks will feel that they emerged the better side, having played the percentages better and shaded the Hurricanes up front. Scoring opportunities were few and far between, though and the half-time score was three points apiece, with both Frans Steyn and Jimmy Gopperth having missed a number of kickable penalties.

The second half saw more of the same; the Sharks appeared to have the ascendancy when, after going 6-3 up, Canes prop Neemia Tialata was yellow-carded for a late shoulder charge. Any hope of advantage from the numerical superiority disappeared,though, following Taione’s dismissal 3 minutes later. The Canes drew level, only for the Sharks to pull away again, courtesy of the dubious try.

Again, somewhat bafflingly, the ref then failed to punish some pretty serious try-preventing discretions by the Sharks in their own red zone, although the Canes ultimately scored legitimately through hooker Andrew Hore (although one might argue that he ran into his own player before crossing the line). The Sharks had a brilliant opportunity to sow it up themselves with 3 minuets to play, only for replacement scrumhalf Rory Kockott to hit the upright from a reasonably simple penalty.

A let-off for the Sharks and a huge amount of soul-searching to do before next week. Ryan Kankowski was outstanding, while Odwa Ndungane and Stefan Terblanche put in some neat touches. There was precious little to write home about otherwise.


Hurricanes (13): Try Andrew Hore. Two penalties and a conversion by Jimmy Gopperth.
Sharks (13): Penalty try. Conversion and a penalty by Frans Steyn. A penalty by Ruan Pienaar.


  • what a mess.

  • Comment 1, posted at 05.04.08 12:15:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • how cool is this headline, but?

  • Comment 2, posted at 05.04.08 12:17:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • Very good but.

    Both sides have reason to feel aggrieved.

    Seriously time to reconsider that 9-10-12 axis.

  • Comment 3, posted at 05.04.08 14:55:42 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Fred had a shocker out there… Ruan wasn’t much better and Brad was completely anonymous.

  • Comment 4, posted at 05.04.08 15:06:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • Fred is still the best we got, and although not good, in my opinion he wasn’t quite shocking.

    I really think Rory deserves a start, and we need to try either Frans or Adi at 12 to try to get some spark.

    Hurricanes, Chiefs and Waratahs peak late, while the Stormers have a dream last few weeks – we need to step up!

  • Comment 5, posted at 05.04.08 15:20:22 by Big Fish Reply
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  • I don’t think Michalak had a shocker at all.

    The whole team played their hearts out IMO.

    Well done Sharks.

    The two Kiwi’s next to me were livid. I just smiled and said “4 more years chaps” THAT at least brought a smile to their faces. 😆

  • Comment 6, posted at 05.04.08 15:20:46 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • they did show great spirit, no question about it.

    I thought Frans did some very encouraging things at 13… his best game in a while

  • Comment 7, posted at 05.04.08 15:29:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • Okay you said something nice about frans so i’ll say something nice about Barritt.


    That chase of the kick and the subsequent tackle was awesome.

  • Comment 8, posted at 05.04.08 15:40:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • This oke was poor. Where do Aus get them.

  • Comment 9, posted at 05.04.08 17:26:55 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

  • Execution was extremely poor and that is what has worried me about the Sharks this whole season. It is not like they do not create opportunities but execution fails them at the best of times. The better teams get now, and the more important games become, the Sharks will suffer losses.

    I mean this was basically the best team the Sharks can put on the field bar one or two positional changes – can you see them go to Christchurch and pose any form of threat to the Saders at the moment???

    Look how the Tahs destroyed the Blues yesterday and you could be forgiven to worry quite a bit if you were a Shark supporter.

    Kanko had a very good game and the best 8 in SA by quite a bit.

    Pienaar, Michelak and Barritt is where it all goes wrong for the Sharks and if Dick cannot see this, the results will prove it soon enough.

    They are all very good players, but as a combination or in their combinations they become anonymous. They do not compliment each other and since there is no-one else at 10 really, Dick will need to look to change 9 and 12.

    I have said it many times, you cannot afford in this competition to select players on reputation, but this is what seems to be happening.

    The score to me is a good indication of the game, neither team deserved to win it. But the Sharks were extremely lucky at the end of the game.

  • Comment 10, posted at 06.04.08 08:38:14 by MorneN Reply
  • I would like to quote Jake or was it Henry (AB coach) Defence wins world cups.

    And while this is not the World cup, we ARE being saved by our defence time and again.

    We have not scored nearly as many points as we should have (lack of finishing), but have been “rescued” by our defence.

    Morne, I don’t think we have MUCH to worry about. We need to be a LITTLE concerned but not overly so. This was a DAMN good Canes side and we managed a draw which should have been a win but for Taione’s “kop uithaak” episode.

    I am a firm believer that you can’t say:
    “A” beat “B”
    we beat “A”
    so therfore we MUST beat “B”.

    Rugby doesn’t work like that, teams change their performances all the time.

    Look at the Blues side that walopped the Lions, had that team rocked up in Durban we would have lost. And it think the blues underestimated the Waratahs and by the time they wiped the kak out of their eyes it was toooooooo late to do anything about it.

    We can learn from watching other games yes but we should read that much into a result.

  • Comment 11, posted at 06.04.08 09:25:53 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • My whole garden is covered with snow!

  • Comment 12, posted at 06.04.08 10:04:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • I am not saying look at team A or team B and compare performances, what I am however saying is that you need to execute better especially against better organised outfits.

    The Canes are not that strong and apart from their loosies they are actually no-where.

    You need to finish and the Sharks are not doing that. They are not better or worse than the best teams out there, but they are not executing in the same sense as the top teams and that is worrying.

    It is not a question of if, but it is a question of when that is going to cost them an important game or 3 and that is the difference between a home semi and away semi or no semi even.

    Their defense is their strong point and that is the only thing that has saved them – against better, more structured attacks or teams however, you wont be able to tackle only for 80 minutes.

    I have said from the start 9, 10 and 12 are problem positions for the Sharks and that is basically the only area of weakness I can pick up – and I maintain that – this is where its going to come bite them in the ass.

  • Comment 13, posted at 06.04.08 10:35:21 by MorneN Reply
  • KSA,

    sent you a mail on your sharksworld addy

  • Comment 14, posted at 06.04.08 10:49:33 by MorneN Reply
  • I am going out for a couple of hours, later all.

  • Comment 15, posted at 06.04.08 10:50:04 by MorneN Reply
  • Hey Morne

    nothing there yet. Am aboput to go out with kette for a bit. (in bangkok at the moment) will check when i get back.

  • Comment 16, posted at 06.04.08 10:54:27 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Good morning.

    Nice win for SA in the 7’s tournament. Really played their hearts out! Well done to them.

  • Comment 17, posted at 06.04.08 11:46:01 by Nessa Reply

  • hello Ness

  • Comment 18, posted at 06.04.08 12:01:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • Did we win? 😎 😎

    Saw we were in the final, but didn’t know we won.


    Have to feel for the Kiwi’s though. This would have been #8 on the trot. 7 is the new record then.

  • Comment 19, posted at 06.04.08 12:09:15 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Huge win for the Bok Orks against the NZ Islander beasts… huge!

    Wonder how long it will be before Victor Vito is playing for the 22man game?

  • Comment 20, posted at 06.04.08 12:11:46 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • Treu needs to keep playing ‘Pale toe’ in the changeroom… we never run under them when scoring… and miss far too many conversions… but excellent all the same…

  • Comment 21, posted at 06.04.08 12:14:33 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • Bryce 😆 Bryce check my comments on Vito on the Bok 7’s thread. SNAP!!!!

  • Comment 22, posted at 06.04.08 12:21:37 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I agree with Morne- been saying the same thing for ages. 9 and 12 are completely failing to give direction to the backs, with the result that the outside backs are looking lost. And we are about to face some in-form teams… I’m worried!

  • Comment 23, posted at 06.04.08 14:39:13 by Big Fish Reply
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  • How about:


  • Comment 24, posted at 06.04.08 14:43:06 by wpw Reply
  • So painful really Sharks are changing their pivotal players in the backs every single week… and it’s starting to show… rain aside… they were clueless… pick a backline and stick with it for a few games!

  • Comment 25, posted at 06.04.08 15:05:51 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • wes – Akona is slow. We don’t want him

  • Comment 26, posted at 06.04.08 16:31:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • yawn. new week same stories all round. barritt being crucified for not attacking when he is getting sweet little ball, but no-one notices the awesome defence he has been supplying the team that has saved countless tries. i feel that the player with the best tackles made to tackles missed he and jacques must be tops. we have only let through 7 tries and as far as i can recall none through his channel. compare this to the cheetahs, lions and bulls. look where all there great attacking inside centres have left them on the log. i do agree he hasn’t sparked off great attacking options, but when you consider how much ball he is received this season, you can’t blame him. why aren’t you all looking at the players you want to replace him with. adi, has the worst defence of any of our centres. he has missed a number of easy tackles already. the wunderkind that all of you fantasize about, the visionless frans steyn is definatly not the answer. even in his limited position at 2nd centre he was trying his best to kick the valuable possession he had away. now how much ball will our attackers see if he moves to inside centre. mmm 5%? no leave barritt where he is. keep frans at 13 as he played his best game yet in that position. lets look at the real problem and i’ll also offer up solutions. ruan, johan and rory need to take some responsibilty here. we get a number of free kicks a game and our players are quick to take a quick tap and run. this has proven to be very unproductive. we have proven we have a strong forward pack so why aren’t we taking more scrums forcing the opposition defence back? why does ryan kankowski always take the ball out the back of the scrum, wasting good ball our backline should be using? ruan is not getting ball out fast enough, and rory is a little too selfish with the ball. stefan needs to be brought into the backline more during a game, while odwa can drop back (as he isn’t that fast but is great under high ball). and the most obvious solution is drop jp and put waylon at wing where distribution isn’t as important. jp is shocking and wouldn’t make many vodacom cup teams so why has he been given 7 starts? the good thing is we have played crap and yet we are second on the log. imagine what will happen when we finally click? at least we aren’t the blues who started well but aren’t following through. we have 6 games left where we can slowly start peaking so we are ready to take all out in the play offs. my suggestion for the highlanders game is give barritt a break. the guy is going to burn out if he carries on like he is. let frans play 12 to try and bring his confidence back. leave waylon at 13 and bring adi in in place of jp to keep him interested. the highlanders aren’t good so this is the perfect game to give our backs a run.

  • Comment 27, posted at 06.04.08 19:59:20 by try time Reply

  • I haven’t seen anything awful from JP. He hasn’t scored any tries, but his defence, positioning, kicking and catching has been great, and he has often remained on his feet in contact positions allowing support to arrive. What more can he do with no ball? Murray deserves some criticism, but the wings and fullback have been good. No doubt we need to look at 9 and 10- and start Rory, but Brad is way off where he was last year. Adi hasn’t been weak in defence, though he isn’t as good there as Brad, while Frans deserves a chance. Seems ironic that non-Sharks see this so clearly.

  • Comment 28, posted at 06.04.08 21:09:53 by Big Fish Reply
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  • TT

    You confuse me dude. 🙄 not a difficult thing by any means 😉

    You have been one of the guys “against” Steyn for weeks now yet you say “new week same stories all round” refering to barrit. Yes you are right but the fact is the number of calls for that are growing.

    That is not the bit that confuses me though.

    The bit that confuses me is that you say barrit can’t attack because he doesn’t have any ball yet you say Steyn kicks everything away. How did the ball get to Steyn? Skip1/M1/S1 moves all the time? Surely not. The Ball must have gone through Barrit to Steyn.

  • Comment 29, posted at 07.04.08 03:24:29 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • we have only let through 7 tries and as far as i can recall none through his channel. compare this to the cheetahs, lions and bulls. look where all there great attacking inside centres have left them on the log. i do agree he hasn’t sparked off great attacking options, but when you consider how much ball he is received this season, you can’t blame him. why aren’t you all looking at the players you want to replace him with. adi, has the worst defence of any of our centres. he has missed a number of easy tackles already. the wunderkind that all of you fantasize about, the visionless frans steyn is definatly not the answer.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    Yes, Adi is suspect on defence, but you don’t continue that point through when discussing Steyn, which you SHOULD do in this case.

    Yes Barrit is good on Defence but SO IS STEYN and Steyn has better attack so Steyn should get the nod.

    The important thing to me is that some of the guys are coming around to agreeing that Steyn must play 12. Where we are saying Steyn should play at 12 because he is better, you (plural) are saying that he should play 12 to “rest” Barrit.

    Same thing different “reason” with the one being dressed to suit the “beholder”.

    But essentially you (plural again) are suggesting that Steyn does exactly what we are all complaining about. Fill in where he is needed. It’s just that finally you (plural) want him to fill in where he belongs and are “dressing” it as a chance to give barrit a rest.

  • Comment 30, posted at 07.04.08 03:36:45 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Umaga has been a long-time critic of referees, famously sounding off about them after playing his last game for the Hurricanes in May.

    “I’m going to tell my son to become a ref because it’s the safest job in the world and you get paid well for it. That’s the frustration I’ve had for a long time and it’s simmered to the top this year. But what can you do?”

    Umaga said what frustrated players most was the inconsistency of referees. Maybe there is method or a small truth in what Umaga had to say.

  • Comment 31, posted at 07.04.08 07:17:05 by barend Reply

  • wes – Akona is slow. We don’t want him

    06.04.08 16:31:43 – robdylan

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 32, posted at 07.04.08 08:13:13 by blackshark Reply

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  • Rory


    We looked the best when we played that backline… I dare suggest thye might actually be firing if they had played a few games together by now!

  • Comment 33, posted at 07.04.08 08:20:29 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • 05.04.08 15:06:49 – robdylan

    So we’ll call him Brad Whatshisname :mrgreen:

  • Comment 34, posted at 07.04.08 08:33:18 by Cru-El Reply

  • ksa i agree steyn has been good on defence, but his attacking has been worse than brad’s. where as brad at least keeps the ball he gets in sharks possession, frans kicks possession away. most the ball frans got on saturday never came from the backline but rather from collecting kicks and from phase play, so i am surprised someone like yourself that actually watches and participates in more rugby than myself is so daft in his ascertians. i have seen very few moves from the sharks this year where the ball has gone from 9 to wing through all the backs hands, in fact i know it has been less than 5 times. very strange considering there is a ten meter gap at scrum time and line out time. this highlights the problem i have with rory and ruan as well as ryan. ksa you and i will have this argument forever, but the fact is with the sharks refusal to send the ball down the line, brad is the man to have at 12. frans was good at 13 and i think better than waylon. so why not leave him there so he is still close to the action, but leave brad to continue his brilliant defensive role at 12 and shouldn’t be dropped to appease the frans fans. i think our real problem is 8-10 as i have said and moving frans to 12 will not fix this.

    big fish i have no clue what games you have been watching but jp has done nothing good this season. he is always ahead of the pass or the kicker. he never supports players with the ball. and when he does get the ball he freezes. he doesn’t chase down kickoffs anymore, where he was superb during the rwc. basically he offers less than adi waylon mentz would so he isn’t needed.

  • Comment 35, posted at 07.04.08 08:36:17 by try time Reply

  • 🙂

  • Comment 36, posted at 07.04.08 08:36:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • oh and the almost try at the end was a result of adi’s poor defensive work. the reason why he cannot be allowed to start.

  • Comment 37, posted at 07.04.08 08:42:53 by try time Reply

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    We looked the best when we played that backline… I dare suggest thye might actually be firing if they had played a few games together by now!07.04.08 08:20:29 – bryce_in_oz

    Bryce…and where would we play Odwa?
    Ok…jokes aside…I don’t agree with relegating Ndungane to the bench…he’s one of our better performing players.

  • Comment 38, posted at 07.04.08 09:02:50 by blackshark Reply

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  • Sorry, i meant the other twin…

    Akona is slower than Bobo. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 39, posted at 07.04.08 09:05:50 by wpw Reply
  • you guys see Pocock run Akona down on Friday?

  • Comment 40, posted at 07.04.08 09:07:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • BS… I still maintain Terblanche is a better start than Odwa, hits and creates gaps faster and steps better… prefer to have Odwa coming off the bench after 15 in the second half… Adi can come on for Barrit and RP for Kockett or Frog if need be… much better dynamics and if only they’d stuck with this for more than one game… injuries aside of course…

  • Comment 41, posted at 07.04.08 09:12:40 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • Bryce – the thing is I breathe easily if Stefan is at 15…so I’d rest Big Brad and slot Steyn at 12.

    I agree with starting with Kockott though…

  • Comment 42, posted at 07.04.08 09:17:27 by blackshark Reply

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    you guys see Pocock run Akona down on Friday?
    07.04.08 09:07:17 – robdylan

    You have got to be kidding me… 😯

  • Comment 43, posted at 07.04.08 09:18:53 by wpw Reply
  • Wes, alas I’m not.

    Akona fluffed three clear tries by not having enough pace. I was just waiting for AJ Whalley or Pek Cowan to run him down.

  • Comment 44, posted at 07.04.08 09:26:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • Whats the matter with the Sharks not getting ball to the wings? STEYN.

    Cant understand Muirs thinking in replacing Ruaan with Cockette. Havent he saw in the Bulls game Cockette cant get the ball to the flyhalf in this weather against the Bulls. Ruaan a much better option in this weather and finally played his first good game plus he is a better goal kicker?

    Anyway this is about Marks, kaksleg dont deseve to ref a prymary school game and so is Willie Doos.

  • Comment 45, posted at 07.04.08 09:46:35 by PaarlBok Reply

  • Man we were lucky: LUCKY to escape with that draw.

    Always a tough call against the Hurricanes, especially at home. I think the draw is a decent result, but the way we got it, frankly, sucked big ugly piles.

  • Comment 46, posted at 07.04.08 09:52:21 by Waz Reply

  • i was actually having a good laugh while watching the game, Marks made it an exciting spectacle.
    xtal thought i was high because i was making such a fuss and couldn’t tell her much about the actual game but kept talking about the reffing.

  • Comment 47, posted at 07.04.08 09:55:14 by provincejoulekkading Reply
  • funny enough – the one call that had me fuming the most was his decision to award a free kick against the Sharks when we had a scrum 5m out. No frikking CLUE why he did that and IMO the entire momentum of the game changed at that moment.

  • Comment 48, posted at 07.04.08 09:58:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • Other thing: did anyone else think Fred’s kick to their backline in the dying minutes was another classic Sharks bumble? Surely when you need to score to win the game with 60 seconds on the clock, the last thing you want to do is give the ball away? We lost the S14 final (partially) by kicking the ball away in the final moments last year. When are these guys going to learn? 👿

  • Comment 49, posted at 07.04.08 09:59:09 by Waz Reply

  • Waz

    You lost the S14 last year cos Steyn missed that conversion.

    He should also not have been the one taking that all NB kick.

  • Comment 50, posted at 07.04.08 10:24:22 by wpw Reply
  • I do however agree that Fred should not have kicked away possession while the game for still up for grabs…

  • Comment 51, posted at 07.04.08 10:25:24 by wpw Reply
  • I still don’t understand why we kicked the ball away in the last minute …playing against a team with an extra man… 😡

  • Comment 52, posted at 07.04.08 10:39:14 by blackshark Reply

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  • KE – if it’s 50/50 you think about it for a second and pick the Sharks…

    03.04.08 13:48:43 – blackshark

  • Comment 53, posted at 07.04.08 10:42:46 by Cru-El Reply

  • Kicking for posts from so far out and not backing ourselves to drive from the lineout had me pulling my hair out too…

    The sooner this game is forgotten the better… I hated every minute of it!

  • Comment 54, posted at 07.04.08 10:43:44 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • KE – if it’s 50/50 you think about it for a second and pick the Sharks…

    03.04.08 13:48:43 – blackshark

    07.04.08 10:42:46 – Cru-El

    ha ha ha…especially if the refs surname rhymes with Sharks…

  • Comment 55, posted at 07.04.08 10:46:23 by blackshark Reply

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  • 07.04.08 10:46:23 – blackshark

    Yeah – stupid ref. He should’ve awarded that last Canes try!

  • Comment 56, posted at 07.04.08 10:47:47 by Cru-El Reply

  • 😯 😯 You gone Mad, Lad??? 😉

  • Comment 57, posted at 07.04.08 10:48:46 by Ice Reply
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  • Cru-El 😆

    is that short for “Crud-Elevated to a rugby team”

    DUDE how can you support the Saders?????????????????? 🙄

    Apartheid is a thing of the past you must support a saffa team now. 😉

  • Comment 58, posted at 07.04.08 10:49:39 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • The ref has admited that he made a Bull.

  • Comment 59, posted at 07.04.08 10:50:36 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Aussie ref admits critical blunder

    April 07, 2008 AUSTRALIAN Rugby Union referee Paul Marks has admitted to making a mistake in disallowing a try to the Hurricanes against the Sharks.

    The controversial decision appeared to cost the Hurricanes the match, with the two sides locked at 13-all in injury time.

    Despite the blunder, Peter Marsh, the Australian Rugby Union referees’ manager, believes that Marks shouldn’t be axed from the super 14 competition.

    “We don’t drop people for one decision,” he said.

    “It’s not just one decision, it’s the overall performance they (selectors) will look at.”

    Marsh admits that Marks should have checked the video,

    “He was disappointed he made that decision. He’ll discuss it with the referees coach (Andrew Cole) but he acknowledges he could have handled it differently,” Marshall said

    Marks called fulltime after ruling that a Hurricanes player had knocked-on, despite replays showing it was a Sharks player who had touched the ball.

    Replacement forward Thomas Waldrom appeared to force the loose ball for a legitimate try. after Centre Conrad Smith appeared to be tackled off the ball.

    Hurricanes coach Colin Cooper admits he didn’t know why Marks’ did not consult the television match official

    “All I’d say is that you’d ask yourself why you didn’t have a look,” he said.

    Marks’ is due to be an assistant referee for the Western Force – NSW Waratahs match in round 9 before a decision is made on his appointment for the following two rounds

  • Comment 60, posted at 07.04.08 10:52:55 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • :mrgreen: Cru-El

  • Comment 61, posted at 07.04.08 10:53:12 by wpw Reply
  • Did I say “Bull”?

    Ag sorry I meant “Big Cock up”

  • Comment 62, posted at 07.04.08 10:53:48 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • KSA

    I’m trying to convince Cru-El to support a decent S14 team (Stormers) but he INSISTS he prefers to support a team whose players don’t INTENTIONALLY drop the soap in the after match showers. 🙄

  • Comment 63, posted at 07.04.08 10:56:19 by wpw Reply
  • wpw :mrgreen:

    Well he DOES have a point. 😉

    Where is Cru-El from? CT?
    The he has to live with it I am afraid. 🙄 You can’t REally pick your team just as you CAN’T pick your family. 😉

  • Comment 64, posted at 07.04.08 11:01:00 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • wpw

    Bit off topic, but…

    …no, we didn’t lose the S14 because of Steyn alone. It was a collection of things:

    – Percy missed a number of kicks at goal. Any one of them would have been enough.
    – Steve Walsh made some bad calls, especially during the last few minutes, which denied the Sharks ‘rightful’ possession of the ball.
    – In the last few minutes, Butch James kicked the ball onto their backs, allowing them to run the ball back at us.
    – In the last few minutes, Frans Steyn kicked the ball onto their backs, allowing them to run the ball back at us.

    We lost because we missed points, gave away possession at critical moments, and had some important calls go against us. It’s what people in the airplane disaster investigation business call an ‘Event Cascade’. 😀

  • Comment 65, posted at 07.04.08 11:07:03 by Waz Reply

  • 07.04.08 10:49:39 – KSA Shark ©

    I’m being CRUel supporting the CRUsaders on SHARKSworld 😈

  • Comment 66, posted at 07.04.08 11:08:02 by Cru-El Reply

  • BS: I agree 100% on kicking away possession. The Sharks seem to do it a lot. I just don’t get it 80% of the time, since when we DO use our backline we look really good.

    Kicking onto the backs can really work, such as the crushing of poor Jason Robinson in our marvelous 36-0 win over England during the RWC. But surely NOT in the last few minutes! You have no time for line-outs or to attempt to recover the ball: you surely have to assume that this is your last attacking movement?

  • Comment 67, posted at 07.04.08 11:10:08 by Waz Reply

  • Your false teeth don’t scare us dude… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 68, posted at 07.04.08 11:11:39 by blackshark Reply

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  • 07.04.08 11:11:39 – blackshark

    The effect of having a coke and a smile 😆

  • Comment 69, posted at 07.04.08 11:13:51 by Cru-El Reply

  • Waz- it wasn’t easy to watch teams like the Chiefs and Tahs doing what we’re supposed to be doing.

    I know the “rain” excuse will come into play yet again…but we’re really cheating ourselves with the poor decisions we make out there.

    We really invited the Canes to run at us in the last second of the game…(just like we did on “that” day) and that’s one of the reasons we’re Super 14 runners-up.

  • Comment 70, posted at 07.04.08 11:19:04 by blackshark Reply

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  • The Sharks LOST the 2007 S14 because the Boels scored more points, period!

  • Comment 71, posted at 07.04.08 11:23:41 by Cru-El Reply

  • 07.04.08 11:23:41 – Cru-El

    The way I look at it…we lost because we let them score more points…

    Anyway…enough about that game. What did you think of Beast’s performance?

    I wasn’t so impressed in the 1st half but he raised his game in the 2nd …

  • Comment 72, posted at 07.04.08 11:28:26 by blackshark Reply

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  • Like all previous weekends, didn’t watch any rugby accept (high)lights channel. That’s the reason why I’m talking lank sh1t i.s.o. rugby facts. Glad to heard about Beast’s performance.

  • Comment 73, posted at 07.04.08 11:40:59 by Cru-El Reply

  • 07.04.08 11:40:59 – Cru-El

    It all makes sense now 😆

  • Comment 74, posted at 07.04.08 11:47:16 by blackshark Reply

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  • Video of the final move

  • Comment 75, posted at 07.04.08 12:39:30 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©

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