Muir frustrated after loss

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :In the news, Sharks, Super 14 on 21 Apr 2008 at 08:57

Sharks coach Dick Muir admitted to huge frustration and disappointment at the result of the match between the Sharks and Brumbies on Saturday night in Canberra.

Mike Marnewick reports for

A small but vociferous crowd of 13 000 alternatively booed and cheered the game along as the Brumbies clawed their way back from a game they were well and truly out of as they turned in a stunning second half performance that saw the Sharks enjoy virtually no ball possession whatsoever.

“That was bad luck,” explained the coach. “It was also stupid play on our behalf; we gave away too many penalties, got underneath the ref’s skin and the game changed.”

It all seemed to fall apart in the second half as the pendulum swung in the Brumbies’ favour. The Sharks were 18-7 up at half time but the Brumbies hit back, the Sharks lost a couple of players to injury, and the two cards exacerbated the situation.

Muir admitted that being denied ball possession was one of the toughest challenges the Sharks were up against in the second half. “Especially against the Brumbies, they hold onto the ball so well and they probably managed to get some momentum going because we were a man short twice, and that gave them confidence.

“It’s a simple game, if you have the ball you can do things, without it you can’t. We certainly didn’t have the ball in the second half.

“Where in the first half we had them dead and buried in the set pieces, we probably didn’t capitalise on the advantage we had, but needless to say, the discipline was the area that cost us the most, and that’s no excuse.”

With the Sharks being heavily penalised in the second half, the Brumbies were able to get their momentum going, and sustain it for long periods of time. “It’s something that we were well aware of that Bryce Lawrence is a referee who likes to have control and I felt that we allowed him to turn against us. I am disappointed in the team’s discipline.”

Muir also refused to blame early setbacks caused by injuries to Steven Sykes (ankle) and Bradley Barritt (shoulder). “We had a couple of early injuries but that’s not an excuse, we have a really good bench that have come in and rescued us at times and we relied on them again, but they came in on a defensive rather than attacking role.”

The Sharks take on the Waratahs this Saturday and it’s a case of ‘where to now?’ for the Sharks. “It’s most definitely not a train smash for us,” explained Muir. “It’s a case of us having lost our way in the second half, but we are a side that can rekindle ourselves. We enjoy touring so just have to bounce back. We know how to play, if we do the way we can, we shouldn’t have any problems.”


  • Ja Dick Muir, you have dig the hole yourself in persisting with Fransie Steyn & costing the team 10 points… 👿

  • Comment 1, posted at 21.04.08 09:01:20 by Charlie Reply
  • I thought Frans was one of the better players out there – particularly in the first half

  • Comment 2, posted at 21.04.08 09:18:06 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Frans played some great rugger in that game. It is piss poor form to blame a 20 year old when the senior guys lost their heads.

  • Comment 3, posted at 21.04.08 09:24:04 by yossarian Reply

  • I agree with you Rob!!

  • Comment 4, posted at 21.04.08 09:24:25 by Me2 Reply

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  • Maybe not a bad time to lose a game…a good wake up call if you ask me and at a good time of the competition. No team has ever gone through an entire Super comp without a pool loss.

  • Comment 5, posted at 21.04.08 09:28:11 by Pokkel Reply
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  • #5 – sorry to correct you there…the Crusaders did it…but I cannot remember the year! I think they won that year as well.

  • Comment 6, posted at 21.04.08 09:32:21 by Me2 Reply

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  • yeah – Saders have definitely gone through a campaign unbeaten. Nobody else has come close, though.

  • Comment 7, posted at 21.04.08 09:34:27 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Me2 , I heard it on the radio this morning. Could be wrong. I still think it was a good time for a wake up call. Better than waiting till the semi’s or final.

  • Comment 8, posted at 21.04.08 09:37:30 by Pokkel Reply
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  • 2002 Crusaders played 11, won 11. Won the final against Brumbies 31 – 13

  • Comment 9, posted at 21.04.08 09:40:46 by yossarian Reply

  • Come on guys, Steyn have enough experience by now, mistakes cost matches and he made it IMO… that no look pass cost them dearly… 😉

  • Comment 10, posted at 21.04.08 09:41:53 by Charlie Reply

  • Thanks for that #9. I stand corrected ( so does the sports commentator on radio )

  • Comment 11, posted at 21.04.08 09:43:09 by Pokkel Reply
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  • in 97, the Blues lost only one game out of 11.
    in 02, the Crusaders lost no games out of 11.
    in 03, the Blues lost just one game out of 11.
    in 05, the Crusaders and the Waratahs each lost 2 games out of 11.
    in 06, the Crusaders lost one and drew one out of 13.

    So, nobody has yet gone through a season of Super 14 unbeaten, but it happened once in Super 12.

    Amazing stat – in 99, the Crusaders won the competition despite finishing fourth in the pool standings.

  • Comment 12, posted at 21.04.08 09:44:01 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Charlie – you have that right. If it hadn’t been for that try against the run of play, I think we would have had them buried by half-time and even Bryce Lawrence wouldn’t have been able to save them.

  • Comment 13, posted at 21.04.08 09:46:43 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Hi everyone.

    I was deeply disappointed by the Sharks loss. 😯

    One would swear I’ve become a guppies supporter. :mrgreen:

    I watched until about 50 minutes and even though Frans played well he did gift the Brumbies a try when we were on top. Did i just say ‘we’

    Anway, i hope ‘we’ can win the rest of our matches cos we need 2 SA teams in the semis.

  • Comment 14, posted at 21.04.08 09:55:52 by wpw (YNWA) Reply
  • Butch (10) + Frans (12) = solution to problem of what to do with Frans 😉

  • Comment 15, posted at 21.04.08 09:56:08 by yossarian Reply

  • wes – your membership card is in the mail 😉

  • Comment 16, posted at 21.04.08 09:58:33 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Just to add my bit:

    GREAT first half. That’s the sort of rugby I like to watch. I thought Steyn had a great game, making up for his terrible “tap-on” pass with some excellent runs and a nicely slotted drop-goal.

    I thought the ref made some really appalling calls, carding two of our players for “not supporting their own weight” in the ruck (Frans had a Brumbies player hanging onto his legs when his card was given). But then, we’ve had a number of bad calls in our favour so I suppose it evens out.

    Troubling how well the Brumbies disrupted our attack and got themselves plenty of turnover ball: I think we could have committed a bit better at the breakdown.

    Also, Rory played well but kicked poorly. At least 6 points lost to moderately difficult penalties that were not capitalised upon.

    Anyhow, although it was a loss I think the guys will breath a little easier without an “unbeaten record” to worry about defending. And the Crusaders dropping a game with no points at all means it wasn’t a bad time to lose.

  • Comment 17, posted at 21.04.08 10:07:31 by Waz Reply

  • Rob, Frans was poo. But the real villain, in my mind, was Keegon Daniel who is fast overtaking Albert Van Den Berg as the walking penalty. Unfortunately the youngster gets it wrong at ruck time more often than not. I think we needed AJ’s cool head earlier in the game.

  • Comment 18, posted at 21.04.08 10:11:50 by CapeShark Reply
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  • Sharks have made life a bit more difficult for themselves now. Remaining games. Tah’s , Sader’s , Cheetah’s ( the Sharks seem to have a problem with the Cheetahs ) and the Chiefs. Not plain sailing by any means from here on.

  • Comment 19, posted at 21.04.08 10:15:40 by Pokkel Reply
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  • thanks Rob. 😎

    Did Brad play OK?

    From what i saw he didn’t do too badly (for the 1st 50 minutes)

  • Comment 20, posted at 21.04.08 10:15:51 by wpw (YNWA) Reply
  • Anything to get Adi in that Damn starting XV hey. 🙄

    Steyn was one of the best guys there on Saturday. Are we going to drop Kockott for missing a kick, are we going to make AJ captain because Muller didn’t argue enough with the ref?

    This is a team sport and it was not ONE guys fault that we lost.

  • Comment 21, posted at 21.04.08 11:43:47 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • it was not ONE guys fault that we lost.

    I disagree. It was that one DOOS wearing yellow that was the problem.

  • Comment 22, posted at 21.04.08 11:55:18 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • 😆

  • Comment 23, posted at 21.04.08 12:07:42 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • Bad choice of words there. 😳


  • Comment 24, posted at 21.04.08 12:09:15 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • Dick with due respect….I think we all saw this coming…. maybe a bit of introspection on selections and tactics is needed if this is going to be a successful season.

    in addition once again the Sharks old mental foe raised its ugly head again – a lack of on the field leadership when the chips are down….have the team shrink and coaches not worked on this aspect? Chaps there is a trophy cabinet at Kings Park that is suffering from a chronic cobweb problem that is testimony to this problem – it needs to be properly addressed.

  • Comment 25, posted at 21.04.08 12:25:16 by Dive Pass Reply

    Dive Pass
  • You can’t single out ONE player for the loss, but for those singling out Steyn as the villain, what about Kockett? Those 2 relatively easy kicks cost us 5 crucial points. If we had turned around 23-7 ahead, the Brumbies would have had to force the issue a bit more and I doubt we would have lost our heads as much.

    I’m not blaming Kockott now, just pointing out that you could go through the whole team and blame almost every guy if you wanted!

  • Comment 26, posted at 21.04.08 13:33:55 by Villie Reply
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  • And if you want Frans Steyn in your team, for now…we are going to have to accept that for all his amazing talent, he is still prone to the odd stupid mistake.
    Hoping we can eliminate this from his game but for now he is one of those players…instinctive and sometimes I don’t even think he knows what he will do next.

    In football terms, I liken him to Cantona…able to create a bit of magic out of nothing but also liable to do something rather silly!

  • Comment 27, posted at 21.04.08 13:38:07 by Villie Reply
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  • Villie (Well said)

    That is exactly what i was alluding to in post # 21.

  • Comment 28, posted at 21.04.08 13:39:24 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

    KSA Shark ©
  • Steyn playing at 12 again this weekend,Barrits shoulder is buggered

  • Comment 29, posted at 21.04.08 13:45:28 by Clayton Reply
  • Clayton 😯

    Is that from our Sauce?

    If it is correct then we will finally know whether Dick has got it right or we have got it right.

    I am now just that little bit more worried.

    1st half rugby for 2 Halves!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 30, posted at 21.04.08 13:50:05 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • If Steyn plays 12…will Dick start with Adi or Waylon at 13? Interesting one that!

  • Comment 31, posted at 21.04.08 13:53:19 by Villie Reply
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  • Hopefully Adi

  • Comment 32, posted at 21.04.08 13:56:18 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • You have to feel a bit of sympathy for Frans. He is shifted all over the backline. He never ends up where he starts. Some of his defence on Sat was outstanding and his drop was important too. Real pity about that loose pass.

    I also felt Keegan got pinged unfairly on a couple of occasions….but by that time the ref had lost all patience with the Sharks and nailed anything and everything! 🙄

  • Comment 33, posted at 21.04.08 13:57:55 by Villie Reply
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  • Adi will play from the bench… 😉

    BTW, see Jacobs played flyhalf against the Brumbies… 😎

  • Comment 34, posted at 21.04.08 14:06:29 by Charlie Reply

  • BTW, see Jacobs played flyhalf against the Brumbies…

    Comment 34 of 34, posted at 21.04.08 14:06:29 by Charlie Edit

    Hey dude that was in the second half. We don’t want to know anything about who played where in THAT half. 😉

  • Comment 35, posted at 21.04.08 14:08:31 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • :mrgreen:

    Ja, but the no look pass by Steyn was in the 1st half 🙄

  • Comment 36, posted at 21.04.08 14:14:55 by Charlie Reply

  • Steyn cost 10 points, but he scored 8. The intercept try came off him getting the ball under pressure and having to offload in a hurry. It wasn’t gifted to Ashley-C by bad play.

    And I agree that you could single out a lot of players if you want to find scape goats. There were also tons of errors made by the ref.

    Thus spake Zarathustra!

  • Comment 37, posted at 21.04.08 14:19:25 by hellbent Reply

  • And I think we need to commend Ruan for his VITAL kick. Who knows how valuable that extra point might be, come the end of the season? It wasn’t an easy kick either!

  • Comment 38, posted at 21.04.08 14:26:17 by Villie Reply
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  • Steyn is the only player i know who can play consistently crap throughout the season without getting dropped.

    I just don’t get it.

  • Comment 39, posted at 21.04.08 14:35:33 by wpw (YNWA) Reply
  • Comment 38 of 38, posted at 21.04.08 14:26:17 by Villie

    Ruan only seems to get them over when they are vital….

  • Comment 40, posted at 21.04.08 14:36:03 by Dive Pass Reply

    Dive Pass
  • Charlie – can you guys get in to Sharksrugby? I re-registered and it said my mail has been verified – but still allow me log in… 🙁 🙁

    I cannot think that I am banned.. 😯 😯 Have been very good… 😕

  • Comment 41, posted at 21.04.08 14:38:36 by I'ce (ISWT) Reply
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  • Hey HB

    You are up late?

  • Comment 42, posted at 21.04.08 14:40:42 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • #38 Villie

    That kick was Vital already. Had it been missed we would now be 3rd on the log and even more depressed.

  • Comment 43, posted at 21.04.08 14:42:03 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • Hallo Ice,

    Jip, no problem on my side… 😎

  • Comment 44, posted at 21.04.08 14:48:26 by Charlie Reply

  • Ok Charlie – Thanks..I seem to be able to log on with my original stuff now.. ❓ ❓

  • Comment 45, posted at 21.04.08 14:52:55 by I'ce (ISWT) Reply
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  • So you didn’t need to re-register. 😆 😆

    What colour is your hair? 😉

  • Comment 46, posted at 21.04.08 14:55:19 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

    KSA Shark ©
  • why are my flights always delayed?

  • Comment 47, posted at 21.04.08 15:32:50 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • #46…As you can see on my pic – I am a brunette… 🙄

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    I tried to log in with original – did not want to – THATS why I re-reg… 😉

  • Comment 48, posted at 21.04.08 15:53:52 by I'ce (ISWT) Reply
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  • There were some serious virus issues over there from Saturday evening to Sunday. I had to re-register last night with a new account to post but this morning I was able to get in fine with my normal log-in information.

  • Comment 49, posted at 21.04.08 16:01:46 by Milissa (25 days to Durban!) Reply

  • Thanks Mill!!! Now I know I am not (too) blonde!! 😆

  • Comment 50, posted at 21.04.08 16:16:06 by I'ce (ISWT) Reply
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  • 😆 I am going temporarily blonde tonight with help of a wig for Fred’s crazy contest on his myspace.

  • Comment 51, posted at 21.04.08 16:20:48 by Milissa (25 days to Durban!) Reply

  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Enjoy girl – I can vouch that blondes have more fun!

  • Comment 52, posted at 21.04.08 16:24:35 by I'ce (ISWT) Reply
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  • Well if I win the contest..I get a full night and day in Toulouse with Fred & his buddy Yannick Nyanga. 🙂 So perhaps the wig might have to make the trip with the whole incognito thing just in case the French press gets a hold of the pictures. 😆

  • Comment 53, posted at 21.04.08 16:29:55 by Milissa (25 days to Durban!) Reply


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