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SA-based players for Bok squad

Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :Springboks on 27 Apr 2008 at 12:33

New Springbok coach Peter de Villiers has virtually shut the door on a number of Europe-based World Cup winning stars ahead of this year’s international season.

News 24 reports that De Villiers, who became South Africa’s first black national rugby team coach when he succeeded Jake White in January, told The Saturday Star that he would first look at the players involved in the Super 14 competition before turning to European-based players when he picks his Springbok team in a few weeks time.

A number of World Cup winning stars, like Victor Matfield, Butch James and Percy Montgomery now all ply their trade with clubs in Europe.

The only overseas-based player guaranteed his place in De Villiers’ first Bok squad, to be named on the weekend of May 16, is World Cup winning captain John Smit.

The former Sharks hooker is now playing his rugby with French club Clermont, but De Villiers recently named Smit as his captain, thus ensuring his place in the team. But the Test futures of flyhalf James, lock Matfield and fullback Montgomery are not certain.

“Even if I wanted to choose a whole lot of overseas based players, I cannot make that decision,” De Villiers told The Saturday Star.

“The (SA Rugby) Board ruling is that there should be a maximum of three (overseas based players in the South African Test team), and I intend adhering to it,” he said.

“There may not even be as many as three because there are a lot of youngsters playing well.”

De Villiers is known to be a fan of Stormers flyhalf Peter Grant, who played for him in last year’s Emerging Springbok team when he was coach.

There are also a number of quality lock forwards currently involved in the Super 14 competition, including Bakkies Botha, Johann Muller – both World Cup Boks – while rookie Andries Bekker from the Stormers has also been in good form.

Matfield, while widely regarded the best lock forward in the world, is also uncertain about his future.

He is currently running out for French second division team Toulon, but indications are that he may continue his career with Northampton Saints when his French club contract expires at the end of June.

And with Montgomery getting on in years, De Villiers may prefer to look to the Stormers’ Conrad Jantjes and even Zane Kirchner of the Bulls to fill the Bok No 15 jersey this season.

The Boks face Six Nations champions, Wales, in a two-Test series in June as well as Italy, before turning their attention to the Tri-Nations competition.


  • I must apologise.

    I saw this yesterday and intended to post it.

    BUT somewhere between the Dolphins, Sharks and Wildebeeste losing and having to try and keep my friends from slitting their wrists, I forgot to post it.

  • Comment 1, posted at 27.04.08 12:35:21 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply
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  • If PdV is only allowed 3 players back than I would go for Butch, John and Vic.

  • Comment 2, posted at 27.04.08 12:36:15 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply
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  • I’m confused. I thought Hoskins said that their would be no restriction on overseas based players?

  • Comment 3, posted at 27.04.08 12:39:33 by racheltjiedebeer Reply
  • their – there 👿

  • Comment 4, posted at 27.04.08 12:39:51 by racheltjiedebeer Reply
  • Racheltjie.

    i also thought so.

  • Comment 5, posted at 27.04.08 12:42:31 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply
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  • Butch is currently on top form for Bath. He is definitely my first choice at fly half. So is Matfield. And Smit is a given.

  • Comment 6, posted at 27.04.08 12:43:20 by racheltjiedebeer Reply
  • Thought so too, but I agree with the limit of 3

  • Comment 7, posted at 27.04.08 12:43:32 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • April 23rd, 2008 on Keo:

    Hoskins this week made public his sentiment about the issue of overseas-based players by stating that he gave the assurance during his meeting with the SA Rugby Players’ Association that there will be no limit to the number of overseas-based players in the Springbok team. Hoskins said it depended entirely on the national coach and on whether he wanted to make use of them.

  • Comment 8, posted at 27.04.08 12:46:07 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

  • Frankly there isn’t really anyone else OUTSIDE of those three who we would be desperate for.

    That WILL change in the future though, with Bakkies, BJ and who knows else getting their passports stamped.

  • Comment 9, posted at 27.04.08 12:46:12 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • He said She said again.

  • Comment 10, posted at 27.04.08 12:49:22 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • Well it is SARU. 🙄 No surprise then.

  • Comment 11, posted at 27.04.08 12:51:57 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

  • I shoulda known when i posted the article 😆

  • Comment 12, posted at 27.04.08 12:52:52 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • Why do the English pronounce John Smit’s surname as ‘Schmidt’?

  • Comment 13, posted at 27.04.08 12:54:07 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

  • cos they think we are germanic.

  • Comment 14, posted at 27.04.08 13:00:15 by cab Reply

  • I see. Thanks cab. 😉

  • Comment 15, posted at 27.04.08 13:03:44 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

  • lol, ja we need to dispel that rumour by showing lips of jan wilkins in jocks. the poms had that fat bugger at the time, big daddy or something.

  • Comment 16, posted at 27.04.08 13:15:15 by cab Reply

  • For a short period during my youth, Jan Wilkins was one of my true heroes. No Jokes. Rofstoei on a Saturday afternoon on Sport ’83 waiting for the 4:30 kick off. Or was it 3:30?

  • Comment 17, posted at 27.04.08 13:19:02 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

  • lol, ja we’ve joked about jan before, also use to remember that before the rugby, dropped my boet on the head a couple of times with some of those moves along with those organge rugby balls…yessus great times.

  • Comment 18, posted at 27.04.08 13:21:06 by cab Reply

  • Orange rugby balls, went through a few of those. 😆 Kicked one through my own bedroom window once, whilst practising my goal kicking. Pakslae AND had to pay for the window. 👿

  • Comment 19, posted at 27.04.08 13:27:20 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

  • I couldn’t kick those bloody balls more than a few times without shoes on.

    Bliksem they where hard man.

  • Comment 20, posted at 27.04.08 13:58:35 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • Spanish GP about to start.

    back later

  • Comment 21, posted at 27.04.08 13:59:53 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • Ferrari 1 & 2 😎

  • Comment 22, posted at 27.04.08 15:44:48 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • Heineken Cup semi:

    Saracens 13-15 Munster 60min

    De Kock playing really well for Sarries. Cobus Visagie scrumming well.

  • Comment 23, posted at 27.04.08 17:18:31 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

  • Some fisty cuffs. Lucky to get away with yellow.

  • Comment 24, posted at 27.04.08 17:19:47 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

  • 3 yellows dished out in about 5 min. 😯

    Munster centre and both Sarries props

  • Comment 25, posted at 27.04.08 17:24:21 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

  • Scrums a balls up. Sarries don’t want to send Visagie back on. Confusion all round. Coach says Visagie is injured. Visagie says he was a tactical sub. Ref says he needs to come on.

  • Comment 26, posted at 27.04.08 17:27:18 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

  • Oh, and it’s 18-13 now. 🙄

  • Comment 27, posted at 27.04.08 17:28:15 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

  • And guess what. Visagie came back on for one uncontested scrum and is now leaving the field ‘injured’. 😆 Circus.

  • Comment 28, posted at 27.04.08 17:29:13 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

  • 18-16 72min.

  • Comment 29, posted at 27.04.08 17:35:11 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

  • So close for Sarries. 18-16 Final score.

  • Comment 30, posted at 27.04.08 17:45:22 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

  • yellows dished out in about 5 min.

    Munster centre and both Sarries props

    Comment 25 of 30, posted at 27.04.08 17:24:21 by racheltjiedebeer Edit

    😯 😯 😯 😯

    Where there uncontested scrums after that?

  • Comment 31, posted at 27.04.08 18:33:07 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • Okay shoulda read further. 😉

  • Comment 32, posted at 27.04.08 18:33:58 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • Just checked all the sport schedules. None of the channels are showing the match again. 😡

  • Comment 33, posted at 27.04.08 18:37:44 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • It’s just been a kak weekend, rugby wise

  • Comment 34, posted at 27.04.08 18:40:57 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Kak weekend for Natal

    Hat-trick of losses 😆


  • Comment 35, posted at 27.04.08 18:48:52 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • Seems Bakkies will be on his way to Toulon soon. Some ineteresting stuff on news24. Bulls’ Springboks threatening to Strike. Bulls union “tyrannical and autocratic”. No wonder they play like they do. Amatuers running a multi million rand business. When will private ownership of rugby unions be allowed?

  • Comment 36, posted at 27.04.08 22:07:06 by racheltjiedebeer Reply

  • #3 to #8

    This from Keo this morning.

    South African Rugby Union president Regan Hoskins insists there is no limitation on how many foreign-based players Springbok coach Peter de Villiers may select.

    Hoskins was responding to weekend newspaper reports that De Villiers could select no more than three overseas-based players.

    “There is a Presidents Council meeting on May 12 and I aim to clear up the issue once and for all,” Hoskins told Keo.co.za. “I also read the reports and they are wrong.”

    Let’s hope everyone sees this and doesn’t post the News24 article. 😉

  • Comment 37, posted at 29.04.08 07:29:54 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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  • I don’t know where the confusion is coming with regard to a limit on numbers,” said Hoskins.

    Well the one who “broke” the news in the public forum was the coach. Seems he has JW disease……….Ag i mean foot in mou…….ag forget it. 😉

  • Comment 38, posted at 29.04.08 07:33:27 by KSA Shark © (FJ!ELN!) Reply

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