Saders forced to dig deep

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :In the news, Super 14 on 11 May 2008 at 08:01
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The Crusaders scored two late tries to beat the Reds 27-21 in Super 14 rugby on Saturday.

The first-placed Crusaders, who have already clinched a home semi-final, trailed 14-8 at halftime, according to a report on

Winger Kade Poki scored an early Crusaders try before Reds captain James Horwill did the same for the home side in the 12th minute. Winger Peter Hynes scored the second Reds try, giving the Reds a 14-5 lead.

Retiring flanker David Croft made a break from within his quarter and from the next phase Morgan Turinui bounced a pass to Hynes, who swerved past Poki and then ran over fellow winger Sean Maitland.

Crusaders playmaker Stephen Brett reduced the lead to six points with a penalty goal in the 22nd minute before Kieran Reid, Ali Williams and Daniel Carter piled on tries for the Crusaders to secure the win.


Crusaders 27 (Kade Poki, Kieran Read, Ali Williams, Daniel Carter tries, Stephen Brett penalty, Daniel Carter 2 conversions), Reds 21 (James Horwill, Peter Hynes, Quade Cooper tries, Clinton Schifcofske 3 conversions). HT, 8-14.


  • Seemed to be the theme of the weekend – “Never Say Die”
    *Saders scoring 2 tries in last 5 mins, on top of that the whistle went with the Reds on the Saders’ tryline again.
    *Chiefs scoring two late tries to get BP. (That just sucked, left a bit of a sour taste in my mouth after a very impressive effort by the Lions.)
    *Tahs going hammer and tongs for Stormers’ line after the hooter went and getting 2 flippen FK’s for it!

    Didn’t watch the other games except Bulls, any more of the same there?

  • Comment 1, posted at 12.05.08 14:06:49 by Namboer Reply
  • Sharks scored two tries in the last few minutes as well. 4th try for the BP and 5th try for the improved Points difference.

  • Comment 2, posted at 12.05.08 14:09:56 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Those last 2 tries were great! Odwa for Pres!

  • Comment 3, posted at 12.05.08 14:22:18 by Waz Reply
  • The Superrugby timing has them as being scored in the same minute (79)

  • Comment 4, posted at 12.05.08 14:25:29 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • I think the Springboks have got the wrong brother.

  • Comment 5, posted at 12.05.08 14:33:32 by Nessa Reply
  • they have… I hope PDev knows it

  • Comment 6, posted at 12.05.08 14:39:23 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Hoping to see a few changes in the SB lineup from the Jake days myself. Think he was loyal to certain players beyond a fault.

  • Comment 7, posted at 12.05.08 14:41:43 by Waz Reply

  • I think there will be changes aplenty

    If I had to pick it right now, it would look as follows:

    1 Heinke
    2 Smit
    3 BJ Botha
    4 Muller
    5 Matfield
    6 Brussow
    7 Smith
    8 Kankowski
    9 Januarie
    10 James
    11 Habana
    12 de Villiers
    13 Fourie
    14 O Ndungane
    15 Jantjes
    16 du Plessis
    17 Mujati (if eligible) else du Plessis
    18 Bekker
    19 Vermeulen
    20 du Preez
    21 Grant
    22 Jacobs

  • Comment 8, posted at 12.05.08 14:46:02 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Thanks KSA, actually saw the Tjarkies doing that but forgot completely! Whoops, just show completely insignificant they are in the grander scheme of things…

    😉 😆 😈

  • Comment 9, posted at 12.05.08 15:05:06 by Namboer Reply

  • Where did I leave that “Ban” button? 😉

  • Comment 10, posted at 12.05.08 15:15:13 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Sheesh Rob (comment 8), looks like you already relocated to Holland, judging by that lineup!

    Heinke could still improve his workrate in the loose, hence I’d go for the other Zimbo by names of Beast.
    Toss-up between CJ, BJ and Jannie really, hard choice there.
    Bakkies above Muller if he still here at that stage, and Muller is still injured right?
    Brussouw still little green, I assume you only took him as Schalk’s injured?? He’d not be an option really – Wickus and Luke after Schalk.
    Spies, as we say in Afrikaans, is Kankowski se baas! It’s tough going and don’t think there’s space for Kanko at this stage.
    Backline not bad, though not sure about Butch. Grant doing well for Stormers but not so sure about him either. Replace Jacobs with Steyn and maybe find a place for Ruan as well.

    Thén we’re talking business!

  • Comment 11, posted at 12.05.08 15:55:41 by Namboer Reply

  • Namboer.

    1) Beast isn’t eligible yet
    2) BJ is the best scrummager of the 3. Jannie and CJ both have discipline issues.
    3) Bakkies has put in ONE decent game so far this year. Muller has been superb throughout. He is now over his injury
    4) Schalk is injured, true. Watson has been playing at 8. Maybe Wikus, sure… I just don’t like him 😉
    5) If you’ve actually been watching the Super 14 this year, you cannot pick Spies over Kankowski. Sorry, but you just can’t. He’s not in the same league.
    6) I don’t think either Ruan or Frans is playing well enough to be in the Bok team right now

  • Comment 12, posted at 12.05.08 16:09:17 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • :mrgreen: To each his own though, and PdV will mos have the final say (if SARU keeps their end of the bargain) in any event. (This talk of Maku being a dark horse is hopefully utter bollocks – did PdV see him when he went on after Derick Kuhn’s yellow? Wepener, Brits, Liebenberg and both Strauss’s alot more to offer than him. Seriously now.)

  • Comment 13, posted at 12.05.08 16:14:10 by Namboer Reply

  • yeah – agree. Maku isn’t even a hooker. He’s a prop.

  • Comment 14, posted at 12.05.08 16:20:56 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Aah, thought both Zimbo’s are eligible already. …Discipline issues – but can BJ and Jannie run like wings?? 😆
    Bakkies has been there despite his off-field issues, maybe not form of his life but there anyways. Muller just does not have Bakkies’s presence, especially in the loose, IMO.
    Mebbe I just don’t like Brussouw that much either then…
    I have been watching S14 and that is eggsaggely why I pick Spies over Kanko! Spies came bact at a very low stage in the Bullring being one of the lone silver linings. His speed and power is just not matched by Kanko. And Vermeulen impresses game after game, though he might want to work on his body position when taking up the ball. Rather high if you ask me.
    Styen crappy yes, but talent like his don’t dissapear overnight. You and I know it’s because he’s been shunted, so maybe the bench is a bad answer but would be a sad day to let him go to waste. Ruan had/has me worried too, so much so I preferred Kockott over him for the Tjarks and I hate Kockott’s guts. FdP seriously lacked oomph and motivation, and Ruan more versatile…albeit also very much like Steyn’s case.

  • Comment 15, posted at 12.05.08 16:35:31 by Namboer Reply

  • Sorry – still don’t buy the Spies arguement. Kanko has been superb all season long and I don’t think he’s slower than Spies. He ran down Nokwe this weekend, FFS!

  • Comment 16, posted at 12.05.08 16:40:50 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • We’ll agree to disagree then…or would you like to step over this line ‘ey!!

  • Comment 17, posted at 12.05.08 16:48:38 by Namboer Reply

  • Nah – those horns scare me 😉

  • Comment 18, posted at 12.05.08 16:50:04 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Does mr admin not have similar horns??

    Oh and i would also pick Kankowski over Spies for now,Kanko has been sublime.

  • Comment 19, posted at 12.05.08 17:02:52 by Slayton Caville Reply
  • @Slayton Caville: Mr Admin just has a stupid beard. The horns are implied 😉

  • Comment 20, posted at 12.05.08 17:04:37 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • 😛 😆

  • Comment 21, posted at 12.05.08 17:09:29 by Slayton Caville Reply
  • I agree Clayton…
    Kanko is the standout 8 for SA and has been the whole season..

    The Sharks would have been down a few log points if it had not been for his individual brilliance…

    But imagine playing Kanko for 60 and bringing on a Spies for 20…sure any opposing team will be wetting themselves…LoL

  • Comment 22, posted at 12.05.08 17:16:37 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm: You’re not wrong about that.

    80% of all the tries we scored on tour (ok, there weren’t that many to begin with) cames as a result of something that Kanko did.

  • Comment 23, posted at 12.05.08 17:17:28 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • I just have a bad feeling that either of them are going to fall victim to a place for Watson…

    Or the loser in that regard might just be Baywatch…

  • Comment 24, posted at 12.05.08 17:17:53 by Hmmm Reply

  • And Robd…that got you into either within 7 or a close fought victory…(crusaders, highlanders, etc)

    If not for that the Sharks would not even have been in contention…

  • Comment 25, posted at 12.05.08 17:20:00 by Hmmm Reply

  • And how was that for Kanko to haul in Nokwe in the chase for the grubber kick!?!?
    Showed great pace there…

    SA are producing some very quick big guys….

  • Comment 26, posted at 12.05.08 17:21:07 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm: imagine Kanko on the one wing and Spies on the other…

  • Comment 27, posted at 12.05.08 17:25:02 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!):

    Yeh with Joe who has been taking the ball up for the LIONS in similar fashion (although not is the same league)…as the 3rd leg to that triangle…

  • Comment 28, posted at 12.05.08 17:58:59 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 28) : I reckon we have enough good loose forwards to adequately serve 3 national teams, at least

  • Comment 29, posted at 12.05.08 18:04:46 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Yeh I agree…

    And we have been dominating teams at teh breakdown with teh likes of the Canes (3 of the 4 match loose trio for the AB’s)/Brumbies/Tahs/etc….

  • Comment 30, posted at 12.05.08 18:09:51 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 30) : In some cases. I wouldn’t say the Sharks dominated the breakdown battle against the Waratahs!

  • Comment 31, posted at 12.05.08 20:44:19 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • 30. Eish, can’t agree there! The ‘Tahs killed us dead at the breakdown. I did not count even 1 single set of phase play against them: they stole the ball every single time. In fact, I think this has been a weak point in the Sharks’ play over the past few years. We are not committed enough at the breakdown.

    Much as I like Spies, you can’t pick him over Kanko. They’re different types of players, and Kanko has shown that you don’t need to look like Ronnie Coleman to hand off Richie McCaw and friends to make the try-line. That’s some pretty serious power in my book!

  • Comment 32, posted at 13.05.08 09:42:33 by Waz Reply

  • Waz – you must go onto the Sharks website sometime and have a chat to FromFaaway – she is 17 and has such attitude!

  • Comment 33, posted at 13.05.08 09:46:53 by Nessa Reply

  • @Waz (Comment 32) : Who’s Ronnie Coleman?

    @Nessa (Comment 33) : You should get her over here…

  • Comment 34, posted at 13.05.08 09:48:39 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • 34. You guys would KILL her… 😈

  • Comment 35, posted at 13.05.08 09:50:17 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • Rob – think Ronnie is a body builder??

    Stroppy little thing – taking Granny Ness on! Little whipper snapper. 😉

  • Comment 36, posted at 13.05.08 09:51:32 by Nessa Reply

  • Maybe the BOSS should intervene…I am in a nasty mood… 😈

  • Comment 37, posted at 13.05.08 09:53:33 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • I think she has run away – said she had to go and study.

  • Comment 38, posted at 13.05.08 09:55:16 by Nessa Reply

  • To be honest Granny Ness I can’t be bothered to post on Sharksworld anymore 😀

    He’s a multiple time Mr. Olympia and super-famous body builder. Absolute monster.

    Was looking at the photo of Spies in the You magazine the other day, and he is incredibly well built. A little “too” well built for a rugby player aged 22 / 23 for my money, which does make me wonder about a few things, but a great player nonetheless.

    Kanko is almost like his antithesis in some ways: tall and lanky rather than thick-set and powerfully built.

  • Comment 39, posted at 13.05.08 09:58:13 by Waz Reply

  • Yeah i saw…she did make an attempt to apologise…can be glad I was not their… 😈 😈 Sou haar gatvelletjies bietjie afgetrek het!! 😉

  • Comment 40, posted at 13.05.08 09:58:19 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 35) :

    yeah at 17 she may need her mom to vet any comments we make before she is allowed to read them 😉

  • Comment 41, posted at 13.05.08 09:59:15 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Waz – but you are posting on Sharksworld. 😉

    Ice – “attempt” is the right word. Apologises in one minute but has another “dig” in another. Don’t have time for people like that I am afraid.

  • Comment 42, posted at 13.05.08 10:00:18 by Nessa Reply

  • Was looking at the photo of Spies in the You magazine the other day, and he is incredibly well built. A little “too” well built for a rugby player aged 22 / 23 for my money, which does make me wonder about a few things, but a great player nonetheless.

    I only by the YOU for the TV guide 🙄
    Why do you think Spies was on Holiday for so long. I think there is a lot more to those jokes/rumours going around than we think.

  • Comment 43, posted at 13.05.08 10:02:35 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Waz (Comment 39) : To be honest Granny Ness I can’t be bothered to post on Sharksworld anymore

    Tell me more? 😉

  • Comment 44, posted at 13.05.08 10:03:27 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Why are u judging me? I dont have an attitude, i just dont like being compared, nobody does, im actually a very nice person.
    And besides ive got like 2test in a few days and i gotta go study, but please do invite your sun 2 come and test me out, i can promise you he will meet his match… he just has 2 get onto a right topic…
    33. Posted by FromFaaway (Whangarei) on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 – 09:43

    WAZ – what do you think the Right topic would be to test her on??? 🙄

  • Comment 45, posted at 13.05.08 10:09:22 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • LOL @ 42 + 44. 😀

    Erm, yes, this is what happens when you try and post comments whilst grappling with the shit-ball that is Oracle. 😈

    @43. Sadly I agree KSA. Back in school, there were a few guys in matric and post-matric that were huge and had incredible musculature. Unfortunately they were only able to achieve those gains through some pretty serious ‘roid and HGH usage.

    I think it’s something nearly all professional sportsmen and women resort to at some stage of their careers, considering the immense pressure to perform that they all face.

    Even Prof. Tim reckons that in another century our descendants will laugh at us for trying to remove drugs from pro sports, which tells us just how imminent he believes their sanctioned usage will be.

  • Comment 46, posted at 13.05.08 10:10:50 by Waz Reply

  • KSA – it was my You magazine. I buy it for the crossword. We were talking about it the other day about how we all felt there was more to the story about Spies.

    Ice – them’s fighting words hey?

  • Comment 47, posted at 13.05.08 10:15:27 by Nessa Reply

  • @45. Oh dear Ice, I’m sure I don’t know. 😀 Is she hot?

  • Comment 48, posted at 13.05.08 10:16:13 by Waz Reply

  • #48:mrgreen: :mrgreen: Typical male!!

  • Comment 49, posted at 13.05.08 10:19:52 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • Rob – I think Waz just means that the Sharks site is a bit dead nowadays. You post a comment and there is nobody to reply – or somebody will reply in about an hour’s time.

  • Comment 50, posted at 13.05.08 10:20:21 by Nessa Reply

  • My thoughts exactly Ice – here I am saying he is such a bright boy – and he asks if she is “hot”.

  • Comment 51, posted at 13.05.08 10:21:06 by Nessa Reply

  • I suppose “bright boys’ are allowed to look… 😉

  • Comment 52, posted at 13.05.08 10:25:05 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 45) : Oh, she’s from New Zealand? Whangerei is even more backwards than Pretoria, FFS! I wouldn’t even bother.

    @Waz (Comment 46) : Oracle is not as user-friendly as MS… it does actually work better as a database, though. Send me an email if you’re having problems and I’ll get you some help.

  • Comment 53, posted at 13.05.08 10:26:55 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @53. Indeed on Whangerei Rob 😀

    Actually, I work extensively on Oracle, Sybase (ASE and IQ), DB2 and SQL Server, so I’m relatively comfy on all of them. The problems I’m having at the moment is due to insufficient privileges on my user account, so it has nothing to do with the capabilities of Larry’s product. 🙂

    Thanks for the offer though, and I’ll certainly take it up should I need to!

  • Comment 54, posted at 13.05.08 10:31:54 by Waz Reply

  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 31) :

    I was referring to SA in general…

    The LIONS turned over a lot of ball against the Tahs…and a few short arms on the odd occasion when Waugh tried to return the favor…

    Plus I would give it to the Bulls and Cheetahs on winning that battle against the Tahs too…

  • Comment 55, posted at 13.05.08 10:34:19 by Hmmm Reply

  • Comment 50 -I think the Blog is wasted on the Sharks site to be honest. Read an article yesterday on the Chiefs injuries and some dude on the blog asks where he can find out who is injured….

  • Comment 56, posted at 13.05.08 10:34:31 by hellbent Reply

  • See Rob – clever boy! 😉

  • Comment 57, posted at 13.05.08 10:36:03 by Nessa Reply

  • @Waz (Comment 54) : Yes… now database security is something we tend to take quite seriously, while the other okes just ignore it 😉

    Any reason you are hand-crafting your own reply links, instead of just clicking the button?

  • Comment 58, posted at 13.05.08 10:38:20 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @hellbent (Comment 56) : I don’t think most of them can read, to be honest. I nearly had an aneurysm trying to explain log permutations there the other day. It’s like some of them actually go out of their way to be as thick as humanly possible.

    The guy who runs that site really does a great job, despite extreme provocation at times. I think he deserves a frikking medal!

  • Comment 59, posted at 13.05.08 10:39:59 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • HB…it used to be great even with us not always talking rugby (and especially me) – but the “atmosphere” was great…most “regulars” are gone…SAD!! 😥

  • Comment 60, posted at 13.05.08 10:40:30 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 58) : Ah! Didn’t see the little grey swirl. Cheers. 🙂

  • Comment 61, posted at 13.05.08 10:42:54 by Waz Reply

  • #59. I hope i dont count under those “THICK”ies… 😳 😆

    Yeah – Rob – Mike did a great job! When he was not so busy he even “interacted” with the regular bloggers when the season was over. As I said – it was so nice!

  • Comment 62, posted at 13.05.08 10:43:46 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • Rob – he may be doing a great job running the site, but in my opinion he has banned about 50% of the old “regular” bloggers for very small offences and it has left very few people to blog.

  • Comment 63, posted at 13.05.08 10:44:39 by Nessa Reply

  • I think you will find that bloggers come and go of their own volition, finding the site or bloggers boring. Some only like talking rugby, others more socialising. Sometimes the blog does resemble a book club meeting.

    Then again, Blogs are for interaction.

    As to banning, I’m sure he doesn’t do it without reason.

  • Comment 64, posted at 13.05.08 10:50:14 by hellbent Reply

  • @hellbent (Comment 56) : @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 58) : @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 59) :

    What do you guys expect from a bunch of beach bums….

  • Comment 65, posted at 13.05.08 10:50:51 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Nessa (Comment 63) : What, like using a forum that the Unions provides to slag off the management while at the same time shamelessly promoting their own unofficial venture?

    Let’s not get into that can of worms again 😉

    Anyway, why not get all these old regulars (apart from the ones I alluded to above) to come and hang out here?

  • Comment 66, posted at 13.05.08 10:53:07 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • HB – I am sure he doesn’t – but I think it definitely had an effect on the site towards the end of last year. I do agree that you have to have some control over the bloggers – but I really do think it affected the site.

    I pop on most days and find nobody there to talk to – it is sad. Used to love the site as most people here know.

  • Comment 67, posted at 13.05.08 10:55:26 by Nessa Reply

  • @ RobD (comment 66): What, like using a forum that you provide to talk up the Sharks while at the same time shamelessly promoting their own unofficial venture?

  • Comment 68, posted at 13.05.08 10:56:04 by hellbent Reply

  • Rob – sure there are people like that who I am sure needed to be banned – but, as you say, let’s not go into that.

    Quite a few of them are already here through my prompting – have told others but some of them feel they are doing the Sharks site a dis-service by coming here – I don’t see why we can’t have both and blog on both. I do.

  • Comment 69, posted at 13.05.08 10:57:45 by Nessa Reply

  • Nessa. To be honest, I can’t be bothered to post there, as I’m sure a lot of others feel the same way. The Americans called it “Dumbing down” and I fear that some of the junk I read posted on the Blog just doesn’t inspire comment. But as Rob said above, when the Union makes available a forum to chat, and people abuse the players and the Union on it, then the Union has every right to remove those people.

  • Comment 70, posted at 13.05.08 10:58:22 by hellbent Reply

  • #66 (#68) – Pleeze let not go there again 😉 – I have had too many (useless) fights trying to pursuade…to little avail… and only wasting my own time 🙁

  • Comment 71, posted at 13.05.08 11:00:12 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @hellbent (Comment 68) : I’m not clever enough to catch what you meant 😉

  • Comment 72, posted at 13.05.08 11:00:34 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @hellbent (Comment 70) :

    Yet again…what do you expect from a bunch of beech bums….
    “Cowabunga dude”

  • Comment 73, posted at 13.05.08 11:00:47 by Hmmm Reply

  • HB – you are not going to stop people from having their say about the players – good or bad. That is what a forum is for. If you are a public figure – in my opinion you are open to critisism – good or bad. A lot of the players read the blog and a lot of them will tell you they don’t take it to heart – others find it quite amusing.

  • Comment 74, posted at 13.05.08 11:01:01 by Nessa Reply

  • @Nessa (Comment 69) : That’s just silly. The intention of this site was NEVER to in any way harm the official Sharks site. I know Michael well and I would never do anything to jeopardise the hard work he puts in.

  • Comment 75, posted at 13.05.08 11:01:50 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Hmmm – not all Sharks supporters are “beach” bums. 😉

  • Comment 76, posted at 13.05.08 11:02:06 by Nessa Reply

  • It’s quite amusing for someone like me, who has been a part of numerous internet communities for over a decade in the form of IRC chat channels, discussion forums and online gaming communities, to see talk of things like site loyalty and the blogosphere from someone like my mom. 🙂

    Web 2.0 is really rather something.

  • Comment 77, posted at 13.05.08 11:02:10 by Waz Reply

  • Ness, I think the internet would be a very sad place if everyone felt an allegiance to just one website. That’s why there are billions. As you say, no reason why a person cannot blog on a variety of sites.

    I believe that fan sites are an excellent idea.

  • Comment 78, posted at 13.05.08 11:02:16 by hellbent Reply

  • Rob – you and I both know that – I am just passing on what some people have said that I have asked to come and blog here because the Sharks site has been so quiet – and that is their reply.

  • Comment 79, posted at 13.05.08 11:03:08 by Nessa Reply

  • #69…Ha Try Time gave me loads of uphill when I was on leave…calling me a traitor… :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 80, posted at 13.05.08 11:04:55 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @Nessa (Comment 76) :


  • Comment 81, posted at 13.05.08 11:04:57 by Hmmm Reply

  • Nessa 74 – I don’t think that’s the problem, and I certainly have had negative feelings about players from time to time, but some of the comments are simply ugly and abusive. The way I see it, if I was a parent, that’s not the kind of language or re-inforcement or criticism I would make of my own child if they failed in something.

  • Comment 82, posted at 13.05.08 11:06:47 by hellbent Reply

  • @I’ce (TKMITFM) (Comment 80) : pot calling the kettle black 😉

  • Comment 83, posted at 13.05.08 11:09:58 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Well HB – I still feel – if you are in the public eye – you are open to criticism. I know quite a few of the players’ parents and they may not like what is being said – but they don’t take it personally.

  • Comment 84, posted at 13.05.08 11:10:34 by Nessa Reply

  • @hellbent (Comment 82) : HB, I was moderator of Car Mag’s forums for a few years, quite a long time ago. It was a very tough job trying to decide when intervention in a discussion was necessary, and most members felt that moderation in any form was tantamount to censorship, and was thus abhorrent and unwanted.

    I don’t envy the position of anybody whose job it is to moderate discussion spaces on the internet.

  • Comment 85, posted at 13.05.08 11:12:10 by Waz Reply

  • Yes Mad, im 100% afrikaans, born afrikaans and i will die afrikaans, i actually had 2 write an eng test in nz 2 prove i can speak eng, Why do u ask Mad?
    53. Posted by FromFaaway (Whangarei) on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 – 10:54

    I wonder if she passed that test? 😉

  • Comment 86, posted at 13.05.08 11:14:15 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Nessa (Comment 79) : well – I trust you have told them what we’re about here?

  • Comment 87, posted at 13.05.08 11:14:46 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @Waz (Comment 85) : Fortunately everybody here is so well behaved we never have to moderate.

    Much to Vinnie’s chagrin 🙂

  • Comment 88, posted at 13.05.08 11:15:33 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • Rob (86) and she wants to take Warren on? Good luck to her! 😉

    (87) I have most definitely told them what you are about here.

    In closing – all I will say is that I have chatted to Michael about this in the past and he knows my views – I am not saying anything here that I haven’t said to him. I think he does a great job on the site and I have no qualms with him.

  • Comment 89, posted at 13.05.08 11:18:31 by Nessa Reply

  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 88) :

    I get Stan and the crew over ……

  • Comment 90, posted at 13.05.08 11:18:55 by Dive Pass Reply

    Dive Pass
  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 88) :

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Yeah…RIGHT!!

    #86… :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 91, posted at 13.05.08 11:20:04 by I'ce (TKMITFM) Reply
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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 90) : Oh please don’t. I don’t allow racists on my site.

  • Comment 92, posted at 13.05.08 11:24:31 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Sharks Forever!) (Comment 88) : Interestingly, the members on Car’s board were great in general. We had any number of heated discussions, but in the end were all petrol-heads who shared a basic common passion for cars.

    There was, however, always that ONE little bastard who was a prick just because he COULD be a prick, and in the end he was the main reason I decided to throw in the towel with that site, after nearly 4 years of good discussions and some great IRL events. Bit sad, but life went on.

  • Comment 93, posted at 13.05.08 11:24:49 by Waz Reply

  • DP – not Stan – please!!!!! 😉

  • Comment 94, posted at 13.05.08 11:25:42 by Nessa Reply

  • @Nessa (Comment 94) : I wouldn’t worry about that.

  • Comment 95, posted at 13.05.08 11:34:30 by robdylan (Sharks Forever!) Reply
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