Eastern Cape revival on the cards – but it’s NOT the Spears

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :In the news on 30 May 2008 at 12:41
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THE first practical step towards the Eastern Cape unions becoming part of the Vodacom Super 14 will be taken on Saturday when a Combined Border and Eastern Province team meet Vodacom Western Province in a friendly match in East London.

The two neighbours have come together with the backing of SA Rugby as part of a carefully mapped out plan to prepare themselves for Super Rugby involvement at the turn of the decade.

“The revival of the Eastern Cape as a major force in elite, professional rugby is of critical importance to the game in South Africa,” said Oregan Hoskins, president of the South African Rugby Union. “The area is not only rich in rugby history but in rugby playing talent from all races and they need and deserve a top-level team to which they can aspire and support.”

The Eastern Cape Combined XV will play in green and white and make a second appearance against the Xerox Lions in Port Elizabeth on Friday, June 13.

Jonathan Stones, managing director of SA Rugby, said: “There has been enough talking around this issue but thanks to the co-operation between Border and EP and with an investment from SA Rugby we have begun to deliver on what we have long promised – a Super Rugby future for the Eastern Cape.”

Stanley Raubenheimer has been appointed by SA Rugby to coach the team. SA Rugby are also footing the bill for the team’s expenses.

The players will disperse back to their home provinces for the Absa Currie Cup in the hope of putting stage two of the plan into action – by one of them winning promotion into the Premier Division.

“We have already agreed that if one of us were to achieve that, we would then contest the competition as an Eastern Cape Combined team,” said Pat de Silva, president of the Eastern Province Rugby Union. “We are also discussing the possibility of playing as a Combined team in the First Division next year if neither of us wins promotion.

“We’re sending a message as rugby leaders to our clubs, our schools, to sponsors and to our municipal leaders that this is the start of a campaign that will end with the Eastern Cape featuring in the Vodacom Super 14.”

Cliffie Pringle, president of Border, said: “Our biggest problem is that our players have nothing to play for here and leave as soon as any offer comes in. We cannot offer them University bursaries or playing contracts and we rely on our income from SA Rugby. But with an Eastern Cape team we can offer a rugby future in this region for young players and a franchise around which the community and business can rally.”

Source: SA Rugby Media Release


  • I’ll believe it when I see it.

  • Comment 1, posted at 30.05.08 12:49:43 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply
  • oh baby baby

  • Comment 2, posted at 30.05.08 12:50:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • If neither of them win promotion, how the hell can they then be promoted as a combined team? What happens to the team that actually did win promotion? ❓

  • Comment 3, posted at 30.05.08 12:53:02 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

  • Where does the green & white come from? Border plays in brown and EP in red & black not so?

  • Comment 4, posted at 30.05.08 12:57:43 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

  • Unless Coega materialises over night or Merc feels like Daddy Warbucks this is not going to work for financial reasons….we can see how the Free State is battling, which is even more of a natural breeding ground for rugby players then the EC, because it does have the deep pockets.The East Cape makes the Free State look like Warren Buffet when it comes to funds…..this is a professional sport and money will dictate the success of any Super 14 outfit ask the Western Force.

  • Comment 5, posted at 30.05.08 12:58:44 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Stanley Raubenheimer…what a [email protected] coach(from what ive heard)

  • Comment 6, posted at 30.05.08 12:59:47 by PJLD Reply
  • So where is SWD?

    Reports a few days ago mentioned they were not prepared to be part of this joint team to play WP.

  • Comment 7, posted at 30.05.08 13:00:05 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • It might mean that Dollie will finally have a team to play for

  • Comment 8, posted at 30.05.08 13:08:05 by molly Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 7) : Note to editors: South Western Districts were invited to remain part of a Southern and Eastern Cape franchise concept but opted to pursue their own path.

  • Comment 9, posted at 30.05.08 13:12:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @ra-cheltjie de’ be-er (Comment 3) : they should jsut stop mucking about and combine the teams in this year’s CC

  • Comment 10, posted at 30.05.08 13:13:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • Before they can win promotion to the Premier CC they need to win the bottom league first, and they haven’t even done that, have they? It was Bolans who won it last year.

  • Comment 11, posted at 30.05.08 13:35:34 by walter van Reply

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  • Bolans=Boland

  • Comment 12, posted at 30.05.08 13:36:14 by walter van Reply

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  • Sorry again…SWD beat EP 38-3 in last years final. Boland is already in the premier league

  • Comment 13, posted at 30.05.08 13:42:59 by walter van Reply

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  • Lads it’s a 2 or 3 year plan that has to begin somewhere. Starting with an incentive to keep players from the region in the region and those good players that stop playing after their school years to continue.

  • Comment 14, posted at 30.05.08 13:44:23 by Ollie Reply

  • SWD has a moerse pack,but the backs cant do anything

  • Comment 15, posted at 30.05.08 13:45:02 by PJLD Reply
  • @ra-cheltjie de’ be-er (Comment 4) :

    Maybe if you mix RED and BROWN and Solly you get GREEN …

  • Comment 16, posted at 30.05.08 13:45:25 by blackshark Reply

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  • It’s easy to shoot a plan like this down but extremely difficult to implement it succesfully.

    Why is it that as soon as there is a plan to try and build the EC that everybody jumps on the band wagon and tries to shoot it down?

  • Comment 17, posted at 30.05.08 13:46:56 by Ollie Reply

  • If it was up to me i’d have the Lions relegated from the S14.

    They are just plain hondk*k.

  • Comment 18, posted at 30.05.08 13:48:40 by wpw (YNWA) Reply
  • @wpw (YNWA) (Comment 18) :

    We had a terrible year and it was a setback after a promising 1st year in the competition last year. Let’s hope we can fix it next year. Sounds like the plan might be for the bottom placed SA team in 2009 to be replaced.

  • Comment 19, posted at 30.05.08 13:53:29 by walter van Reply

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  • Maybe they’ll consider combining the Lions with the Bulls…

  • Comment 20, posted at 30.05.08 13:55:14 by blackshark Reply

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  • Shame Walter.

    You seem like a die hard Lions supporter. It must be tough on you when they are playing so badly.

    Us WP and Stormers supporters can identify with you (to a certain extent)

    We have not achieved our high standards that we are accustomed to achieving.

    We are after all the most successful SA rugby team of all time.

    (Notice, no smileys)

  • Comment 21, posted at 30.05.08 14:05:07 by wpw (YNWA) Reply
  • @wpw (YNWA) (Comment 21) : just adjusting my sights…

  • Comment 22, posted at 30.05.08 14:11:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 20) :

    The Cheetahs Lions combination known as the Cats showed that combining the bigger unions doesn’t work.

  • Comment 23, posted at 30.05.08 14:12:59 by walter van Reply

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  • What’s that Rob??? 🙄

  • Comment 24, posted at 30.05.08 14:13:28 by wpw (YNWA) Reply
  • 🙂 I like Walter’s schoolteacher-like way of posting.

    Maybe it will help if the bigger unions operate in the same PROVINCE.

  • Comment 25, posted at 30.05.08 14:15:39 by blackshark Reply

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  • @wpw (YNWA) (Comment 21) :

    >>We are after all the most successful SA rugby team of all time.

    Is this the same team that last played in a Currie Cup final in 2001?

  • Comment 26, posted at 30.05.08 14:19:18 by walter van Reply

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  • @wpw (YNWA) (Comment 24) : it’s just that you remind me of someone when you talk like that… someone I don’t like

  • Comment 27, posted at 30.05.08 14:28:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • So the EC is not the same as EP???

  • Comment 28, posted at 30.05.08 14:29:42 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • “SA Rugby are also footing the bill for the team’s expenses.”

    Lets ‘s see
    1. fisrt class BA tickets for Hoskins & entourage to go watch the match
    2. first class BA tickets for Stones & entourage to go watch the match
    3. Buffet luch for the laarnies + drinkies
    4. After match drinkies for laarnies
    5. Overnight 5 star accomodation for the travelling SARU circus
    6. Various sundry expenses for the laarnies like flowers for the wife.
    7. R30.00 per diem expense for each rugby player – there you go boys

    It all adds up, but hell it’s all in a good cause. Viva rugby development viva

  • Comment 29, posted at 30.05.08 14:30:22 by yossarian Reply

  • Bryce,

    the Eastern Cape as a region covers the EP, Border and SWD rugby unions.

  • Comment 30, posted at 30.05.08 14:37:28 by Ollie Reply

  • @Ollie (Comment 17) :

    my problem with this is not the EC or SEC for that matter. It is that whatever plan / promise gets made by SARU never actually gets fullfilled.

  • Comment 31, posted at 30.05.08 14:39:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @wpw (YNWA) (Comment 18) :
    Die Cheetahs is kakker as die Lions. Die feit dat hulle 1 punt meer in S14 2008 het, sê fokkol!

  • Comment 32, posted at 30.05.08 14:40:18 by Cru-El Reply

  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 31) :

    And I’m in the same boat as most of you guys.

    It is OUR unions that are throwing the obstacles in the way. It is OUR unions that are scared that they will be the one bumped for the EC/SEC team when the time comes.

  • Comment 33, posted at 30.05.08 14:41:05 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • The Cats (combines or seperate) are catkak

  • Comment 34, posted at 30.05.08 14:41:40 by Cru-El Reply

  • KSA,
    I’m not sure about that this time around. I think Stones will push it fairly hard. SARU did mention (not produce) to a plan when the Britney (just for Rob) saga was at it’s peak.

    I think this might be the beginning of it. Although one never know with the Hoskins version of transparency.

  • Comment 35, posted at 30.05.08 14:43:56 by Ollie Reply

  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 31) : it is a classic case of the lunatics running the asylum. The ones in charge are the people who are the problem. Viva gravytrain viva 😀

  • Comment 36, posted at 30.05.08 14:45:58 by yossarian Reply

  • If they want to play as a combined side in the CC, why don’t they just bite the bullet now and start playing as a combined side now?

  • Comment 37, posted at 30.05.08 14:46:15 by walter van Reply

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  • @Cru-El (Comment 32) :

    I agree with that one.

  • Comment 38, posted at 30.05.08 14:46:26 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 33) : @KSA Shark © (Comment 33) :
    You’re probably right about the blocking tactics which definitely shows a very short sighted way of thinking.

  • Comment 39, posted at 30.05.08 14:46:43 by Ollie Reply

  • @Cru-El (Comment 32) :

    What business do The Sharks have in playing both their development team and the senior team in the same tournament? We should drop the Cheetahs 😉

  • Comment 40, posted at 30.05.08 14:47:39 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @walter van (Comment 37) :

    Walter, probably because of sponsorship deals, layout ofthe current competitions etc. It might take a little while to implement.

  • Comment 41, posted at 30.05.08 14:48:13 by Ollie Reply

  • @Ollie (Comment 39) :

    And that is why the idea sometimes (well all the time really) gets shot down, because it boils down to what is more important to the supporters.

    1) Their team playing in the S14?
    2) Uplifting the EC / SEC region.

    For me my team is going to win everytime.

  • Comment 42, posted at 30.05.08 14:50:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @walter van (Comment 37) : didn’t I say that above? 😉

  • Comment 43, posted at 30.05.08 14:50:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 42) : agree. I only support the EC inclusion as long as it doesn’t hurt the Sharks. Sorry guys, it’s dog eat dog.

  • Comment 44, posted at 30.05.08 14:51:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • @yossarian (Comment 36) :

    Nothing to do with gravy train IMO more to do with the big 5 trying to ensure their futures are safe.

  • Comment 45, posted at 30.05.08 14:51:32 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • am I the only one wondering where Kandas is? 😉

  • Comment 46, posted at 30.05.08 14:52:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 44) :

    And that is why if it were this year that the bottom team would be dropped then it would only have been Stormers and Sharks backing this deal early in the season.

  • Comment 47, posted at 30.05.08 14:53:07 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 46) :

    Well he is an SWD boy so he has divided loyalties on this one as SWD are not included. 😉

  • Comment 48, posted at 30.05.08 14:54:03 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 44) :

    I hope their plans aren’t to let 6 SA teams play in a Super 16?

  • Comment 49, posted at 30.05.08 15:05:57 by walter van Reply

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  • @walter van (Comment 49) : we don’t good enough players for 5… or even 4

  • Comment 50, posted at 30.05.08 15:16:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ollie (Comment 30) :

    Thanks Ollie that’s what I thought…

  • Comment 51, posted at 30.05.08 16:07:43 by bryce_in_oz Reply


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