JP Pietersen and Schalk Brits will both be considered for selection for the second test against Wales on Saturday.
The Sharks wing, one of the standout players in the World Cup last year, as well as leading try scorer in the 2007 Super 14, was left out of coach Peter de Villiers’ original 30-man squad, after a poor campaign this year. Pietersen’s poor form was blamed on a lack of conditioning and he has been retained with the squad in order to work on this aspect.
Brits has also stayed with the squad ever since its announcement, despite also being outside the 30-man group, with John Smit and Bismarck du Plessis the two hookers.
With Smit unavailable for next weekend’s test against Italy, due to French club commitments, Brits will no doubt come into the selection frame. The news from the camp, though, is that both Brits and Pietersen should now effectively be considered members of an enlarged 32-man squad that will contest selection for the next two tests.
This would presumably cast a fair amount of doubt on their availability for the Currie Cup, something which potential Fantasy League managers may want to take note of.
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@PJLD (Comment 1) : oh no!
What is the story…has JJP miraculously reconditioned earlier then De Villiers anticipated or has De Villiers had to have a re-think after the defensive efforts over the last week-end?….If so his reconditioning story was well a story…..
@Dive Pass (Comment 3) : I just hope that he at least sends Odwa back to us if he’s going to keep JP
It sort of leaves a bad taste when a union has been prohibited from playeing the player because that player is out of condition but the the person that does the prohibiting now calls the same unconditioned player up for his test squad.
@Salmonoid (Comment 5) : agree. It’s kind of like “pee or get off the pot”
Supersport:
“JP was a vital part of our World Cup win and it would be absurd to just abandon him. He knows he is part of our plans, but by his own acknowledgement he was not in the best conditioning in the pre-season,” Hewitt added.
“The decision to keep him with the squad is more to monitor him, to make sure he is keeping to the conditioning programs he has been given and to keep him in the right mindset.”
@Dive Pass (Comment 7) : babysitting, in other words
At least it isn’t pushing him back into play as was suggested….De Villiers is not talking with folk tongue on this one.
@Dive Pass (Comment 9) : Dammit. I really don’t want to end up with Wagenstroom as our first choice in the Currie Cup!
@Dive Pass (Comment 9) :
I wonder, Is JPP really such a liability to himself that he cannot be trusted to stick to his programmes while at the Sharks. What does that statement say of the Sharks trainers?
Can we now expect a call up for Solly T and that other chap that went AWOL from the Lions this year.
I dont buy it.
@Salmonoid (Comment 11) : you’re fishing for conspiracies 😉
Was JPP a stand out in the RWC?
ONe tackle (a awesome tackle at that)…does all that?
Ive been trawling the whole day but no ones talking – you’d swear the mafia controlled SA rugby.
It is rather disappointing that PdV does not have enough faith in the Sharks organization to send him back to get into condition, but I suppose if he was allowed to get out of shape by the Sharks then PdV has no reason to trust he will get conditioned if sent back. It just seems strange to me, personally I don’t think his problem was conditioning, and I certainly felt that JPP was getting his form back in the last 4 or 5 weeks of the Super 14. He is certainly a much better defender than Chavanga. I just don’t understand why Odwa is not getting a shot with the Boks, he certainly played well enough in the Super 14 to deserve a shot. Odwa is a much more rounded player than Chavanga, he does not have Chav’s all out pace, but Odwa defends better, is much better under the high ball and is bigger and stronger.
@Hmmm (Comment 13) :
Ja
While Ive been fishing, Hmmmm seems to have been ready to take on all comers.
Why would you appoint a coach as your assistant if he let his players get out of condition.
@Hmmm (Comment 13) : you ever heard of journalistic licence?
@Dive Pass (Comment 16) :
WoW
@robdylan (Comment 19) :
Do you actually apply for that or buy it somehwere like a software licence…
I think it’s ironic that JP is out of condition on his own admission, which is a smear on the Sharks management and then he is put in the care of the Bok management including Dick Muir and Bok doctor Dr Roberts….both of the Sharks management that supposed allowed him to get into such condition!
@Salmonoid (Comment 18) :
Good point!??!
@Salmonoid (Comment 18) : how many chucks would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
@Salmonoid (Comment 17) :
I don’t fish…I buy!??!
@Hmmm (Comment 21) : who buys software licences?
@robdylan (Comment 24) :
16
@robdylan (Comment 26) :
Oh so you are supposed to buy a journalistic licence….but since you don’t buy licences you copy the licence from someone else…
@Hmmm (Comment 28) : looking for a “debate” on every thread?
How come my avatar is not changing. Works fine from home, at work it’s back to happy & gay men.
@Hmmm (Comment 28) :
When you giving me my 5 pounds back for not being able to argue properly?
@ra-cheltjie de’ be-er (Comment 30) : shift-F5
@ra-cheltjie de’ be-er (Comment 30) : Try clearing your cache on your work PC. Firefox has an option under the Tools menu to clear private data.
You look like an old gay man from where im sitting rachel
@molly (Comment 29) :
Nope…not my fault people tell lies and I need to correct them…
@ra-cheltjie de’ be-er (Comment 30) :
Is this a pic of you and the gay in leather your life partner?
@PJLD (Comment 34) : ideal Stormers supporter, in other words 😉
Needs to be old, to be able to remember the glory days
I miss oubaas
@Dive Pass (Comment 31) :
I thought that since you were not able to argue properly I would keep the 5 pounds as punishment…
@robdylan (Comment 37) :
No in other words gay!??!
@robdylan (Comment 37) : About as old as you wull be when the Sharks glories finally roll on round?
Peace out folks
@PJLD (Comment 41) : cheers chomma… almost time for Fish to start his shift 😉
When is the farkin Currie Cup going to start already?
@PJLD (Comment 41) :
Yeh must agree with you there…the Sharks have not won anything for way longer than WP….
Not even the VC….
When was it since the Sharks last trophy…1996!??! Rob?
@robdylan (Comment 32) : Thanks.
@PJLD (Comment 34) :
@Hmmm (Comment 43) : shut up. That is a taboo subject here 😉
@robdylan (Comment 42) :
20 June 2008 at 15:30
@Bok-El (Comment 36) : So many funny people on this site. That’s way I come back everyday. 😀
@robdylan (Comment 46) :
Ha-Ha….was I right though!??!
@Dancing Bear (Comment 33) : Thanks for that too. 😎
@Bok-El (Comment 36) : @ra-cheltjie de’ be-er (Comment 48) :
We take that as a yes!!
@Hmmm (Comment 51) : shut up! 😉
@Hmmm (Comment 13) :
He actually had a very good WC and an exceptional Super 14 campaign prior to WC.
@robdylan (Comment 10) :
How much have you seen of Wagenstroom?
I’ve only seen him play for SA U21’s and he was okay. Nothing fantastic but not bad either. Seemed quite pacy. Maybe with some CC exposure he could be a good thing?
@Villie (Comment 54) : Perhaps. I hope so. He flopped quite spectacularly in the vodacom cup, though
@robdylan (Comment 55) : Yeah, not much good came out of our VC team.
He must have “some” talent to be selected for Bok U 21’s!
Wagenstrom is quick and a strong bugger Rob – remember that both JP and Odwa needed time to find their feet at senior level.
We need to just back him and he will repay the faith, of that I am certain.
@Big Fish (Comment 57) : I’m more excited about Mvovo and the other bugger whose name currently escapes me
We will see.
I think Wagenstrom could be very good indeed.
JRWC
South Africa 56 – 3 Scotland
@KSA Shark © (Comment 60) :
Seems that wasn’t the final score. 🙂
This is.
South Africa 72 – 3 Scotland
Player name Type Time Half
Francois Brummer DG 6 1
Francois Brummer Pen 12 1
Johan van Deventer Try 17 1
Francois Brummer Con 18 1
Lionel Mapoe Try 23 1
Francois Brummer Con 24 1
Stephan Dippenaar Try 27 1
Francois Brummer Con 28 1
Lionel Mapoe Try 43 1
Martin Muller Try 4 2
Francois Brummer Con 5 2
Wilton Pietersen Try 8 2
Francois Brummer Con 9 2
Wilton Pietersen Try 27 2
Pieter Janse Van Vuuren Try 40 2
Francois Brummer Con 41 2
Johan van Deventer Try 43 2
Francois Brummer Con 44 2
Omphile Seabela Try 45 2
Francois Brummer Con 46 2
Scotland
Scorers Player name Type Time Half
Jamie Murray Pen 25 1
Leading scorers at the JRWC
Francois Brummer South Africa 40
Josias Ebersohn South Africa 25
BenjamÃn Madero Argentina 22
Junior Sovala Futi Australia 20
Dane Haylett-Petty Australia 20
might as well just call them the Bulls u20s and be done with it
it’s okay they can develop them for the rest of SA. 😉