Saders lose another key man

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :In the news, Super 14 on 26 Jun 2008 at 07:26
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All Blacks prop Greg Somerville will join Gloucester on a two-and-a-half year contract in December after agreeing a move from the Crusaders.

Report courtesy News24.

A fierce scrummager, Somerville can play as a loosehead or a tighthead and has 59 caps for New Zealand.

“The market is now making players of Greg’s experience, calibre and undoubted expertise available and once we appreciated his interest and desire to add significantly to our squad, we were thrilled to sign him,” coach Dean Ryan told

He added: “To have represented the All Blacks in more than 50 Test matches and be versatile to operate on either side of the scrum, means he is an outstanding acquisition for us at this stage of his career.

“With the likes of Christian Califano and Patrice Collazo leaving the club, we needed an option that could benefit us long-term and we have managed to combine experience, versatility and expertise in one package and that is fantastic for the club.”

Somerville, 30, who will play out the remainder of his current side’s domestic season before arriving at Kingsholm, added: “I have achieved virtually everything possible in New Zealand rugby and to have represented the All Blacks will always be something very special to me.

“But this opportunity has developed and the chance to experience a new culture for myself and my family, and contribute to a side that is already right at the top of the English Premiership was an exciting opportunity to take up.

“I am looking forward to contributing to Dean Ryan’s side and proving myself in different conditions and against different opponents. Gloucester’s front row options are already very talented and I am looking forward to adding to that mix next season.”


  • Saders aren’t going to be the same team next year… Deans, Dan and a host of other smaller stars gone.

  • Comment 1, posted at 26.06.08 07:36:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • Did anyone watch Springbok Saga last night? What a let down! 🙁

    Awful editing, kak soundtracks, staid presenters, terrible audio. What was all the hype about?? 👿

  • Comment 2, posted at 26.06.08 08:36:02 by klempie Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 1) : No Doubt that they will begin rebuilding now, the Cantbrians are a proactive and professional outfit, they run their rugby like a business and have been the most successful union in NZ, their results speak for themselves.
    Sure they will not be the same team next year, but they should never be written off. A month in Rugby as in politics is a long time, 9 months is even longer ❗
    Provided that they can retain the nucleus of the younger players and Richie, they will be okay. Wayne Smith is a good backup for Robbie Deans.

  • Comment 3, posted at 26.06.08 08:41:35 by Ragged Reply

  • @Ragged (Comment 3) : my prediction is that they’ll have one season where they’re not all that competitive (like maybe ending 5th or 6th) and then be back with a back in 2010

  • Comment 4, posted at 26.06.08 08:48:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : Rob hope you are right but still think that the will be in the shakeup next year.
    As much as it grieves me to say this at this early stage I think that the Stormers will be in the top 4 and probably at the Sharks expense.
    It is very early doors and a lot can happen but the Tahs, Chiefs ( nice young side without too many superstars) Stormers will be in the top 3 with Sharks, Bulls, Saders, scrapping for the 4th Spot.
    All conjecture at this stage.

  • Comment 5, posted at 26.06.08 08:55:38 by Ragged Reply

  • @klempie (Comment 2) : Got it taped, thanks will not watch it then, saw a glimpse of it Pienaar and Andre Juba talking.
    Did any one watch the ODI, quite a bit of controversy 🙂 .

  • Comment 6, posted at 26.06.08 08:58:20 by Ragged Reply

  • @Ragged (Comment 5) : we have a much kinder draw next year… plus we’ll have John coming back

  • Comment 7, posted at 26.06.08 09:05:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • You guys are missing the bigger picture here….we are potentially seeing the beginning of the end of the Super 14 being the best quality rugby tournament outside of the RWC, the 3N and the 6N. New Zealand is taking a serious assault from European rugby clubs.

    They are trying the “sabbatical” allowance to star players like Carter and have given McCaw that option. But if the pressure continues with the numbers of players at their prime that are going at the moment they will have to select overseas players for the All Blacks and then it’s straight Pound/Euro vs Kiwi Dollar and the loser is going to be the Super 14.

  • Comment 8, posted at 26.06.08 09:19:43 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 7) : True, last years tour was almost inhuman, the Stormers have a long one ahead of them as do the Bulls.
    Talking about Jon coming back which is good news, I hope that we can retain Bismark and Jannie, with BJ off to Ireland we would not want to lose him and Jannie. What is the latest with Butch;is he going back to Bath?
    I suppose it is way too early for all the speculation, but if Brian van Zyl is also heading off we need to have some contingency plans in place.

  • Comment 9, posted at 26.06.08 09:20:40 by Ragged Reply

  • @Dive Pass (Comment 8) : Therefore there should be an extended competition that has been muted, having a conference type tournament played simultaneously in the UK, rest of Europe, the Pacific, NZ, Aus ,SA and the Americas with a super league coming from the top 2 teams from each conference.

  • Comment 10, posted at 26.06.08 09:25:04 by Ragged Reply

  • @Ragged (Comment 9) :

    I don’t think John is coming back…
    If rumors are correct Bismark has some game time clause in his contract…permitting form…and that is the delay in finalising John!??!

    Rob can you confirm!??!

  • Comment 11, posted at 26.06.08 09:27:27 by Hmmm Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 7) :

    Are you sure of that? Has it been confirmed…last I heard there were talks…

  • Comment 12, posted at 26.06.08 09:30:20 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Ragged (Comment 10) :

    Interesting idea but shew the logostics of getting to agree to that and the running of it?

  • Comment 13, posted at 26.06.08 09:31:07 by Dive Pass Reply

    Dive Pass
  • @Dive Pass (Comment 13) :

    And the length!??!

  • Comment 14, posted at 26.06.08 09:51:05 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Ragged (Comment 6) : Poms deserved what they got. LOL Favourite bit was the last ball cock-up. Sweet, sweet justice. 😀

  • Comment 15, posted at 26.06.08 09:53:23 by klempie Reply

  • @klempie (Comment 15) : One of most exciting games of cricket I watched in a long time…. did you see how Collingwood was locked out of the NZ change rooms? But in the end Micheal Atherton managed to pour oil on troubled water… ironic in a sense it was him as the MC ( not a stranger to some dubious issues, cheating and controversy himself)

  • Comment 16, posted at 26.06.08 10:21:13 by Ragged Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 11) : I heard Brian van Zyl say that was utter nonsense, that they would never commit to any form of a guarantee clause in any contract.
    I think it was the media who got it all wrong… Gavin Rich I believe.

  • Comment 17, posted at 26.06.08 10:25:01 by Ragged Reply

  • Collingwood seems to be a weak captain. They resorted to pathetic time wasting in a ODI a week or 2 ago to avoid defeat & get a ‘no result’. I’m happy they lost and hope they lose the next one.

  • Comment 18, posted at 26.06.08 10:29:22 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

  • @Ragged (Comment 17) :

    Ragged is that a Madame Tussauds version of Eddie Jones next to you in your pic?

  • Comment 19, posted at 26.06.08 10:29:54 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Ragged (Comment 17) :

    You heard him say?
    Oh ok…so poor Bismark might lose out again…if I was him I’d go to another province….when Bismark played behing Smit in the S14 he did not make the BOk side…so he might lose out again on Bok selection next year…

  • Comment 20, posted at 26.06.08 10:50:52 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Dive Pass (Comment 19) : I am the ugly mug on the right. In the blue shirt. The youngster next to me is Russian Kickboxer called Vladimir Skabinski

  • Comment 21, posted at 26.06.08 11:19:54 by Ragged Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 20) : I heard him say that with my own two ears, yes.

  • Comment 22, posted at 26.06.08 11:20:39 by Ragged Reply

  • @Ragged (Comment 22) :

    Well in that case then Bismark should def move on…just donno where to as all teh other teams have a prefered hooker…and some like the LIONS and Cheetahs have two…

  • Comment 23, posted at 26.06.08 11:29:27 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Ragged (Comment 21) :

    Russian Kickboxer….then I better not call him a Madame Tussauds version of Eddie Jones 😯

  • Comment 24, posted at 26.06.08 11:30:00 by Dive Pass Reply

    Dive Pass
  • @Hmmm (Comment 23) :

    NOt that any of them are better than Bis though….

  • Comment 25, posted at 26.06.08 11:30:09 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Ragged (Comment 21) :

    Well I think you are you boyfriend take a good picture together…

  • Comment 26, posted at 26.06.08 11:31:12 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 26) : please explain what you are trying to say

  • Comment 27, posted at 26.06.08 12:06:43 by Ragged Reply

  • Oh ok…so poor Bismark might lose out again…if I was him I’d go to another province….when Bismark played behing Smit in the S14 he did not make the BOk side…so he might lose out again on Bok selection next year…

    Comment 20, posted at 26.06.08 10:50:52 by Hmmm Edit

    Bismarck was in the RWC and 3N last year, having played one CC game and played behind Smit in the 2007 S14. I don’t think anyone doubts his ability.

  • Comment 28, posted at 26.06.08 13:17:02 by hellbent Reply

  • @Ragged (Comment 27) :

    TRYING to say?

  • Comment 29, posted at 26.06.08 13:27:56 by Hmmm Reply

  • @hellbent (Comment 28) :

    No one doubts his ability…but remember he lost out to Gary Botha/Chillyboy Ramaphele over the last 2 years…

  • Comment 30, posted at 26.06.08 13:50:55 by Hmmm Reply

  • Somerville….spent a year at Dale. We taught him well!! 😛

  • Comment 31, posted at 26.06.08 13:58:02 by Villie Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 29) : Yes, trying to say because you obliviously have problems constructing sentences.”Well I think you are you boyfriend take a good picture together…”
    I get what you are inferring but I am not from Cape Town, in fact to be brutally honest what kind of pseudonym is Hmmmmm. I wonder.

  • Comment 32, posted at 26.06.08 14:02:36 by Ragged Reply

  • Chill out gents, dis amper vrydag.

  • Comment 33, posted at 26.06.08 14:09:40 by PJLD Reply
  • @PJLD (Comment 33) : sure Bru, but his comment was offside… and when you go offside you get penalized.

  • Comment 34, posted at 26.06.08 14:39:34 by Ragged Reply

  • @hellbent (Comment 28) :

    No one doubts his ability…but remember he lost out to Gary Botha/Chillyboy Ramaphele over the last 2 years…

    Comment 30, posted at 26.06.08 13:50:55 by Hmmm Edit

    But he has been, for the past 12 months, sharing the duties with John at the Boks, and is at worst number 2, so he has not lost out to anyone, despite playing second fiddle to John in 2007.

  • Comment 35, posted at 26.06.08 14:39:55 by hellbent Reply

  • Ragged

    I’m a bit loathe to get involved but us WP supporters get a lot of flak on this site and we sort of handle it and try not to take things personal.

    And this even though we are continuously being called drama queens, primma donnas, etc…

  • Comment 36, posted at 26.06.08 14:49:04 by wpw Reply
  • @Ragged (Comment 34) : understood

  • Comment 37, posted at 26.06.08 14:49:18 by PJLD Reply
  • What are going on here…? You okes play nicely or I’ll set my cullit tjommies on you 😉

  • Comment 38, posted at 26.06.08 14:53:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • :mrgreen: Rob

  • Comment 39, posted at 26.06.08 14:55:11 by wpw Reply
  • Judge shatters Mrs Dalton’s dreams of luxury
    Zelda Venter
    June 26 2008 at 01:27PM

    Andrea Dalton, wife of former Springbok hooker James Dalton, won’t get the R43 000 a month maintenance she wanted from her estranged husband.

    Instead, she will have to make do with R15 000 a month and a 2004 Hyundai Matrix car, the Pretoria high court ruled on Thursday.

    Andrea wanted R43 000 maintenance a month, pending the finalisation of their divorce, as she felt she was entitled to the lavish lifestyle she was used to during their five-year marriage.

    Andrea complained bitterly that she had to live with her mother in the latter’s tiny home, while Dalton lived in the R3-million Silver Lakes mansion the couple shared during their stormy marriage.

  • Comment 40, posted at 26.06.08 15:00:08 by wpw Reply
  • and it continues:

    Andrea said it was unreasonable to expect her to drive the “old” car, as she was used to much more. She pointed out that during her marriage, she drove eight brand-new, top-of-the-range BMWs.

    The former model said their monthly expenses were about R150 000 during their marriage.

    She was aiming to get half of his assets and R50 000 a month maintenance after the divorce.

    She also had plenty of other demands, including a Persian carpet, a flat-screen TV and two couches.

    She also felt it was terribly unfair that she was made to drive a ‘battered’ 2004 car
    Her counsel said she was surely entitled to “sit and watch TV”.

    Andrea said at this stage she only received R10 000 a month from Dalton, while her clothing and beauty expenses alone ran to more than R4 000 a month .

    Andrea also demanded R7 500 a month for groceries, which made Judge Lettie Malopa ask whether this was for one person.

    Her counsel said that if one was used to mince and rice, it may seem a bit much, but if one was used to rump steak, caviar and prawns, it was very little.

    She also demanded money to pay for domestic work, as during their marriage they had three servants, the court was told. This prompted the judge to ask whether she still needed three servants. Her counsel said she would make do with only one.

    Dalton claimed he only earned R60 000 a month and couldn’t afford to finance her lavish lifestyle, but Andrea claimed he was earning much more and hiding his assets in various companies.

    The court heard that an investigator would be appointed to probe these companies and report back to the court during the divorce proceedings.

    Isma Delport, appearing for Dalton, said in terms of the law, Andrea was only entitled to reasonable expenses as interim maintenance, pending the divorce.

    “She isn’t entitled to the luxuries she demands. Not even if she was married to Bill Gates,” Delport said.

    Apart from ordering that she had to receive R15 000 a month maintenance instead of the R10 000 she got, the court also ordered that Dalton had to continue paying for Andrea’s medical aid and her policies.

  • Comment 41, posted at 26.06.08 15:01:13 by wpw Reply
  • ‘Her counsel said that if one was used to mince and rice, it may seem a bit much, but if one was used to rump steak, caviar and prawns, it was very little.’

    She clearly hasn’t got a decent lawyer. 😯

  • Comment 42, posted at 26.06.08 15:02:54 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 42) : oh



  • Comment 43, posted at 26.06.08 15:07:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 42) :

    decent lawyer = oxymoron

  • Comment 44, posted at 26.06.08 15:09:09 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • 😆 😆

  • Comment 45, posted at 26.06.08 15:11:29 by wpw Reply
  • Dalton bright enough to be “hiding his assets in various companies” ❓

  • Comment 46, posted at 26.06.08 15:32:49 by billy Reply

  • @billy (Comment 46) :

    Billy, Dalton is asking where you live so he can come over and “discuss” his brightness with you…. 😉

  • Comment 47, posted at 26.06.08 15:52:05 by Dive Pass Reply

    Dive Pass
  • @wpw (Comment 36) :

    Yes but the comments made toward the WP supporters are more of the generic type, like we Sharks supporters get the choker tag, the comment aimed at Ragged was just plain personal

  • Comment 48, posted at 26.06.08 16:22:21 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 48) : Cheers Dive pass… talking about chokers…..
    Question: What is the difference between the Stormers and half a Viagra ❓
    Answer: At least 1/2 Viagra will give you a semi ❗

  • Comment 49, posted at 27.06.08 08:52:16 by Ragged Reply


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