Bok team announced!

Written by Wesley Weber (wpw)

Posted in :In the news, Springboks, Tri Nations on 3 Jul 2008 at 08:22

Johannesburg – The selection of Joe van Niekerk at No 8 for the first Tri-Nations Test against New Zealand in Wellington on Saturday is probably the only real surprise in the team announced by Springbok coach Peter de Villiers on Thursday.

Van Niekerk has been selected ahead of Pirre Spies – and Ryan Kankowski, who is ostensibly still being rested after a head injury – in a side that shows a third major shake-up in as many Tests since the first against Wales five weeks ago.

This might, in the fourth Tests of the season, at last be the side that De Villiers says he has had in his head from the outset.

He has certainly used the three incoming tour Tests to give all of his selected squad a run to show their worth, but it has done little in the sense of team-building (as opposed to team spirit and squad building).

De Villiers has brought back Butch James in at flyhalf for Frans Steyn who drops to the bench, dropped Gcobani Bobo (left in Cape Town) for Adi Jacobs at centre, has John Smit back at hooker after his two Saturday’s in France with Gurthro Steenkamp at loosehead in place of Tendai Mtawarira, selected fit-again flank Schalk Burger – who has had only 20 minutes of rugby in 10 weeks – in place of Luke Watson and brings in Van Niekerk as No 8 for Kankowski.

Spies and Kankowski are not even on the bench, with Watson getting the nod – perhaps as cover for Burger who simply cannot be fit for 80 match minutes.

Scrum cohesion

Despite these changes the side is much as was expected. However, South African supporters will be perturbed by the fact the Springboks will run onto the field on Saturday with their fourth frontrow combination in four Tests and also their fourth loose trio combination of the season.

The scrum cohesion in particular could be a problem facet for the Springboks. The shuffled and reshuffled front three have been on the back foot in two of the three Tests played so far, the second against Wales being an exception – and now another, seemingly better, combination has to rectify the ills.

Only Butch James and Brian Habana of the backs started in the World Cup final while six forwards ran on against England. Steenkamp and Ricky January are the other two World Cup players in the team.

South Africa: Conrad Jantjes, Odwa Ndungane, Adi Jacobs, Jean de Villiers, Bryan Habana, Butch James, Ricki Januaire, Joe van Niekerk, Juan Smith, Schalk Burger, Victor Matfield, Bakkies Botha, CJ van der Linde, John Smit (capt.), Gurthro Steenkamp. Replacements: Bismark du Plessis, Brian Mujati, Andries Bekker, Luke Watson, Bolla Conradie, Frans Steyn, Percy Montgomery.



  • Bring on the KIWI’s !!! 😡

  • Comment 1, posted at 03.07.08 08:27:23 by blackshark Reply
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  • Bokke Bokke BOKKE!!!

  • Comment 2, posted at 03.07.08 08:43:09 by molly Reply
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  • Joe is no surprise to me…
    I said he looked the best of all teh loose forwards in any of the tests….
    He is currently our best no 8….

  • Comment 3, posted at 03.07.08 08:54:34 by Hmmm Reply

  • Not a bad run-on 15, I hope Big Joe hits form again this match. I remember a year or 2 ago that some coach said that the power in his legs was like having a porsche engine in a VW beetle. 😀

  • Comment 4, posted at 03.07.08 08:54:50 by Ollie Reply

  • The only surprise is Mujati on the bench….

  • Comment 5, posted at 03.07.08 08:56:21 by Hmmm Reply

  • Hmmm, I think he still has some work to do to match Kankowski when things open up a bit.

  • Comment 6, posted at 03.07.08 08:56:35 by Ollie Reply

  • @Ollie (Comment 4) :

    He played well in the test he came on….and the whole S14…

  • Comment 7, posted at 03.07.08 08:57:03 by Hmmm Reply

  • Yep, f the available players I would rather have played Beast. But who knows, there has been some time for the coaching staff to work on Mujati.

  • Comment 8, posted at 03.07.08 08:57:39 by Ollie Reply

  • @Ollie (Comment 6) :

    Ja like they usually open up against NZ!??!

    And from what I saw in green and gold…Joe not only matched…but overshadowed Kanko…

    What we need is Kanko and Spies to hit form…

  • Comment 9, posted at 03.07.08 08:58:34 by Hmmm Reply

  • I agree Ollie… I would have risked Beast to start ahead of Gurthro.

    Joe has been good this year and he always plays well against NZ and AUS.

  • Comment 10, posted at 03.07.08 08:59:13 by wpw Reply
  • @Hmmm (Comment 7) :
    Not as well as Kankowski I think, and not as well as he played when he first started. But that is opinion based on very little opportunity to actually watch many games.

  • Comment 11, posted at 03.07.08 08:59:18 by Ollie Reply

  • @Ollie (Comment 8) :

    I think you need few years for that to be effective…

  • Comment 12, posted at 03.07.08 09:01:04 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 9) :
    By open up I mean going into multiple phases. Joe has always been good from the base of a scrum, but falls behind Kanko in support play. I haven’t seen enough of Spies since he came back to really comment on him.

  • Comment 13, posted at 03.07.08 09:01:37 by Ollie Reply

  • @Ollie (Comment 11) :

    Kanko did nothing in the few minutes he played in the 2 tests…

    Joe was standout the best of the bunch in the tests…Kanko was standout the best in the S14…

    But this is the test arena…dif ball game…ask Mujati

  • Comment 14, posted at 03.07.08 09:03:52 by Hmmm Reply

  • @wpw (Comment 10) :

    I don’t know whether I would start him above Guthro, but at least on the bench.

    The coaches must see something in Mujati though that they think is worth investing in.

  • Comment 15, posted at 03.07.08 09:04:19 by Ollie Reply

  • @wpw (Comment 10) :

    Maybe not ahead of Guthro….but def off the bench…

    His fresh legs in general play….will def be standout…..

  • Comment 16, posted at 03.07.08 09:04:57 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 12) :

    Not really, if it is just a little technique that needs work.

  • Comment 17, posted at 03.07.08 09:05:21 by Ollie Reply

  • I really hope that Januarie can get up Carters nose again, he really seems to have a knack of spoiling Carters flair.

  • Comment 18, posted at 03.07.08 09:06:46 by Ollie Reply

  • What you mean…as Kanko was the only player for the Sharks to break the line….Joe in some games was the only player for the LIONS to break the line of def…
    He even played at centre on LIONS scrum and in lineout ball…
    And he made good yards…

    Remember he played blindside in the S14 with Alberts at the back…..

    So I donno what you base that on!??!

  • Comment 19, posted at 03.07.08 09:07:44 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Ollie (Comment 15) :

    Investing is one thing…but overplaying!??!

    I just fear we are steady in the scrums (and remember these are ELV’s so more scrum than we had in the tests)…then Mujati comes on and the whole scrum goes to crap…

    We should just tap and go at every free kick we get!??!

  • Comment 20, posted at 03.07.08 09:09:24 by Hmmm Reply

  • Good team, i maybe would have Beast instead of Mujati but i suspect it has to do with the fact that he played both tight and loose head in the S14, Joe, i think is a good call, Spies is overrated and Kanko must still be feeling the effects of that hit.

    I do find it a little concerning that he only has one prop on the bench, but again i suppose CJ’s versatility also counts in his favour.

    And finally i maybe would have pushed Jantjies onto the wing in place of Odwa and brought Monty in.

    But like i said yesterday – its Div’s team and all the best to him and the guys – hope you can pull it off. It would be awesome.

  • Comment 21, posted at 03.07.08 09:09:28 by Sauce Reply
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  • @Ollie (Comment 17) :

    I think you are underselling that problem….

  • Comment 22, posted at 03.07.08 09:10:37 by Hmmm Reply

  • Hmmm

    Didn’t Kanko only play against Italy???

    He left the field after he got injured.

    He is a far better player than Joe and has been SA’s best 8 for quite some time.

    Joe has been good but as Ollie says he has yet to reach the form that made him SA Player of the Year.

    A fit Kanko should be one of the first names on the team sheet.

  • Comment 23, posted at 03.07.08 09:14:07 by wpw Reply
  • @Sauce (Comment 21) :

    I agree….this is his first real test…hope he can answer any dif questions or at least get the answers in the following week…

  • Comment 24, posted at 03.07.08 09:15:00 by Hmmm Reply

  • The only unfortunate thing for PdV is….he is going to be compared to White who won his first 3N…

  • Comment 25, posted at 03.07.08 09:16:31 by Hmmm Reply

  • Hmmm, there is an “if” in my sentence, I am not selling anything. Just making a comment that there are highly trained coaches working closely with these players that seem to think that they can be successful with Mujati

  • Comment 26, posted at 03.07.08 09:16:33 by Ollie Reply

  • Joe is a good call. He really took his chances against the WOPs

  • Comment 27, posted at 03.07.08 09:18:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 23) :

    Kanko came on against Wales for a 15 odd min’s…

    As I said…Kanko was standout loose forward in the S14….but Joe made more of an impression in his short stint on the field than Kanko did…

    Even Robd mentioned that…

    All I said was that Spies and Kanko need to get into test form…they both better athletes than Joe…and have been better than Joe at their best…but right now…it is JOE…..

  • Comment 28, posted at 03.07.08 09:22:42 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Comment 29, posted at 03.07.08 09:23:33 by Hmmm Reply

  • this is a pretty good Bok team and bench, quite likely to pull off the first win in NZ in 10 years… congratulations to PdV for making some smart selections(including 14 members of the WCsquad). Lot of experience in the team, lets hope they can do it.

    * Gurthro has represented the Bokke 14 times and has yet to play in a losing Springbok team

  • Comment 30, posted at 03.07.08 09:27:07 by spykerbaard Reply

  • Well, in 2 days and 2 hours we will know if they got the balance in the team right. 😈

  • Comment 31, posted at 03.07.08 09:27:34 by Ollie Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 28) : They’re undoubtedly better athletes than van Niekerk but Big Joe’s far better in the rucks than they are. I would go so far to say that Kanko is actually quite poor in the rucks, he never steals the ball, rarely slows it down and doesn’t retain possession very well.

    Flashy pick-ups from the back of the scrum and 50 yard dashes are all well and good, but they aren’t an 8’s primary role. Rucks are. Very good call by PdV.

  • Comment 32, posted at 03.07.08 09:31:19 by Flashman Reply

  • And Mujati’s there because Beast can’t cover tighthead.

  • Comment 33, posted at 03.07.08 09:32:33 by Flashman Reply

  • Regardless of who is better where, it’s just great to know that we have 2 or 3 maybe even 4 players that could slot into number 8 without too much worry about quality of player. 😀

  • Comment 34, posted at 03.07.08 09:33:15 by Ollie Reply

  • Come on Sharksworld bloggers, we only have 5 players for the 3N FL on http://www.testrugby.com…. come join

  • Comment 35, posted at 03.07.08 09:39:45 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Flashman (Comment 33) :

    CJ can cover both sides…better than Mujati can cover any side…

  • Comment 36, posted at 03.07.08 09:40:49 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Flashman (Comment 32) :

    Well I was the one that said that Joe is it at this stage…neither Spies nor Kanko have shown that they deserve to be there ahead of Joe….

  • Comment 37, posted at 03.07.08 09:42:01 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 36) : That’s a good point. Mujati instead of CJ? Awful call.

  • Comment 38, posted at 03.07.08 09:52:27 by Flashman Reply

  • CJ is starting…

    Mujati is on the bench…

  • Comment 39, posted at 03.07.08 09:53:27 by wpw Reply
  • Good morning all.
    I can not see how some of you can say that this is a good team to play NZ….
    I personally think the Boks are going to get a hiding to none come Sat.
    Jacobs can not defend to save his life !!!
    Nanu is going to run him into the ground.
    Mujati should be send back to ZIM before he gets hurt.

  • Comment 40, posted at 03.07.08 09:58:27 by AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) Reply

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  • @AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) (Comment 40) : Go read the article I’ve just written

  • Comment 41, posted at 03.07.08 09:59:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 41) : Where???

  • Comment 42, posted at 03.07.08 10:03:01 by AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) Reply

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  • Here

  • Comment 43, posted at 03.07.08 10:08:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 39) : Of course!

  • Comment 44, posted at 03.07.08 10:09:13 by Flashman Reply

  • @AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) (Comment 40) : I see no Nanu in the NZ team, Get over it, Adi Jacobs are in the Bok team, support the team or not, the choice is yours… 😎

  • Comment 45, posted at 03.07.08 10:12:49 by Charlie Reply

  • This belief that Adi can’t tackle is just plain ridiculous.

  • Comment 46, posted at 03.07.08 10:16:22 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 46) : Jip, just a bunch of suurgatte complaining… 👿

  • Comment 47, posted at 03.07.08 10:18:49 by Charlie Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 45) : Sorry boet !!!! Spelling error on my side !!!!
    New Zealand:

    15-Mils Muliaina, 14-Sitiveni Sivivatu, 13-Conrad Smith, 12-Ma’a Nonu, 11-Rudi Wulf, 10-Dan Carter, 9-Andy Ellis, 8-Jerome Kaino, 7-Rodney So’oialo (captain), 6-Adam Thomson, 5-Ali Williams, 4-Brad Thorn, 3-Greg Somerville, 2-Andrew Hore, 1-Tony Woodcock.

    Replacements: 16-Keven Mealamu, 17-Neemia Tialata, 18-Anthony Boric, 19-Sione Lauaki, 20-Jimmy Cowan, 21-Stephen Donald, 22-Leon MacDonald

    Number 12 ( Ma’a Nonu ) is what I mend to say….

    My choice is clear.
    I don’t support the BOKS for Sat.

  • Comment 48, posted at 03.07.08 10:24:29 by AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) Reply

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  • @AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) (Comment 48) : thats pretty sad.

  • Comment 49, posted at 03.07.08 10:31:11 by molly Reply
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  • @AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) (Comment 48) : you’re not supporting them? What, because you don’t agree with some of the selections? Man, it must have been tough for you when Straueli was the coach… Or did you actually rate Jorrie Muller as a better player than Jacobs?

  • Comment 50, posted at 03.07.08 10:32:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 50) : to quote some wise guy:
    There’s not much he can do to change the perceptions of people who are determined to be closed-minded.

  • Comment 51, posted at 03.07.08 10:42:05 by molly Reply
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  • AK

    Surely you mean ‘You don’t think we will win’ becos of the team that has been selected???

  • Comment 52, posted at 03.07.08 10:43:28 by wpw Reply
  • :mrgreen: Molly

  • Comment 53, posted at 03.07.08 10:46:13 by wpw Reply
  • @AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) (Comment 48) : 😥 And just because Adi is playing… 😥

  • Comment 54, posted at 03.07.08 10:47:45 by Charlie Reply

  • No no no people.
    Not just ’cause Adi is playing !!!
    I sayed defensive wise he is a weakpoint !!!
    Look at that.
    Don’t put words in my mouth…

    wpw on the money !!!!!

  • Comment 55, posted at 03.07.08 10:58:13 by AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) Reply

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  • You have to select the BEST team to play NZ in NZ !!!!!
    You telling me that Adi is any better Fourie ????
    Please man….

  • Comment 56, posted at 03.07.08 11:02:35 by AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) Reply

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  • @AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) (Comment 55) :
    You implied that Nonu will run through Jacobs and Mujati is bad so the AB’s will win.

  • Comment 57, posted at 03.07.08 11:03:01 by Ollie Reply

  • @AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) (Comment 55) : So what’s your point…don’t see anything else in your comment 🙄

  • Comment 58, posted at 03.07.08 11:03:37 by Charlie Reply

  • @AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) (Comment 56) : Fourie is injured, boet… try to keep up? 😉

  • Comment 59, posted at 03.07.08 11:03:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • Fourie has been injured for how long…. back one week and he’s ready for a AB test. Talk about a gamble.

  • Comment 60, posted at 03.07.08 11:04:02 by Ollie Reply

  • Rob, isn’t he back from injury since last week?

  • Comment 61, posted at 03.07.08 11:04:34 by Ollie Reply

  • @AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) (Comment 56) : Hell, Fourie’s injured… 👿

  • Comment 62, posted at 03.07.08 11:05:44 by Charlie Reply

  • This is going to come down to a simple case of ” I told you so ” after the weekend.
    Boks got no chanse on Sat.

    Time you guys face the facts.
    If the form of the “Boks” impresed you guys in the last three games go for it !!!
    This is not a 3d rate team they will be playing people.

  • Comment 63, posted at 03.07.08 11:10:00 by AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) Reply

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  • @Ollie (Comment 61) : not as far as I know… Walter will confirm, but I think he’ll still be out for a week or two.

  • Comment 64, posted at 03.07.08 11:11:33 by robdylan Reply
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  • @AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) (Comment 63) : it’s such a typical approach.

    What exactly would you like them to be doing differently? I guess it starts with having Meyer as coach, doesn’t it?

  • Comment 65, posted at 03.07.08 11:12:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 62) : Ok sorry….

  • Comment 66, posted at 03.07.08 11:13:19 by AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) Reply

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  • @AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) (Comment 63) :

    Maak die al die Bulle Bokke!!!!!!

  • Comment 67, posted at 03.07.08 11:13:20 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 65) :

  • Comment 68, posted at 03.07.08 11:13:54 by Ollie Reply

  • ***LMFGA***

  • Comment 69, posted at 03.07.08 11:14:29 by AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) Reply

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  • Even if we lose to the AB’s, its not like we have ever won there this century…

    Not even while Jake White was coach.

  • Comment 70, posted at 03.07.08 11:22:40 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 70) : yes – gotta keep that in mind.

    But the naysayers will tell you with conviction (after only their 3rd brandy) that either of Jake or Heyneke would’ve klapped this dom all blek ous stoopid ek sê

  • Comment 71, posted at 03.07.08 11:34:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 71) : As you said earlier…whatever the outcome…a few would still be negative… 🙄

  • Comment 72, posted at 03.07.08 11:42:35 by Charlie Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 71) :

    The same Jake that only last June they would have been slagging off in the same manner….

  • Comment 73, posted at 03.07.08 11:43:21 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • 😆 😆

  • Comment 74, posted at 03.07.08 11:44:19 by wpw Reply
  • The last time we won in NZ was 25 July 1998, also in Wellington, 13-3

  • Comment 75, posted at 03.07.08 11:45:38 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 73) : my point exactly.

  • Comment 76, posted at 03.07.08 11:45:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 75) :

    Monty is the only player in the 22 who knows how that feels….

  • Comment 77, posted at 03.07.08 11:48:16 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Is much easier being a critic or negative. Usually for them it takes only one loss to ‘vindicate’ their ‘facts’. And they won’t accept anything less than a 100% winning record as proof that they might have it wrong. But the more stubborn amongst them will then usually point to a few ‘lucky’ wins, etc. 🙄

  • Comment 78, posted at 03.07.08 11:51:47 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

  • @Dive Pass (Comment 77) : He might have lost that “Loving feeling” but it will be back, come Saturday 5th July 2008 in Wellington…the score really does not matter… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 79, posted at 03.07.08 11:54:38 by Charlie Reply

  • @Dive Pass (Comment 77) :

    That’s right, this was the players on that day:

    Percy Montgomery 15
    Stefan Terblanche 14
    Andre Snyman 13
    Pieter Muller 12
    Pieter Rossouw 11
    Henry Honiball 10
    Joost Van Der Westhuizen 9
    Gary Teichmann 8
    Andre Venter 7
    Andrew Aitken 6
    Mark Andrews 5
    Krynauw Otto 4
    Adrian Garvey 3
    James Dalton 2
    Robbie Kempson 1

    Chester Williams 16
    Bobby Skinstad 17
    Ollie Le Roux 18
    Franco Smith 19

  • Comment 80, posted at 03.07.08 11:54:50 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @ra-cheltjie de’ be-er (Comment 78) : 😉

  • Comment 81, posted at 03.07.08 11:55:21 by Charlie Reply

  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 80) : So we beat them with only 19 players…this time round we have 3 extra in the armory… 😈

  • Comment 82, posted at 03.07.08 11:56:42 by Charlie Reply

  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 75) : I remember that day as if it was yesterday. Went for a celebratory hair cut straight after.

  • Comment 83, posted at 03.07.08 11:58:39 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 82) :

    I only keep track of the reserves that take the field, so that day only 4 went on.

  • Comment 84, posted at 03.07.08 11:59:03 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • Wow.

    Isn’t it amazing that 3 players in that squad are still actively playing today???


  • Comment 85, posted at 03.07.08 11:59:24 by wpw Reply
  • @Flashman (Comment 38) :

    Actually CJ is starting…so I would have gone with Beast on teh bench instead of Mujati…
    If Guthro goes off CJ will have to move over for Mujati to come in as it is…
    Unless PdV is planning on subbing CJ at some stage…he is the only one that featured in all test so far if I remember correctly?

  • Comment 86, posted at 03.07.08 12:00:30 by Hmmm Reply

  • @wpw (Comment 85) :

    Calling Ollie active is a bit of a push…I suppose his mouth is in more the one way

  • Comment 87, posted at 03.07.08 12:04:35 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 80) :

    Andre Snyman at 13 in his prime…never been a more promising 13 in this world….
    Was that not the game he picked up a ball…palmed off Buns…outsprinted the rest of the AB backline to score with Rossouw coming in afterwards and falling on him and breaking his ankle…then he broke another before he even got back to the field and before we knew it he lost over 2 years of rugby and all flexibility in his legs and with that all his awesome pace…

  • Comment 88, posted at 03.07.08 12:04:56 by Hmmm Reply

  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 80) :

    No one could get through the 10-12-13 channel with those players…
    Remember when Andre got the ball standing still with Frank Buns lining him up for a tackle…whilst standing still he bumped off Buns and laughed him off…

  • Comment 89, posted at 03.07.08 12:08:20 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 88) : 😳 But Jake White thought that he have lost nothing of his speed… 🙄

  • Comment 90, posted at 03.07.08 12:08:44 by Charlie Reply

  • Slaptjips scored the try in that game Hmmm.

  • Comment 91, posted at 03.07.08 12:10:14 by wpw Reply
  • It was a pass from Lem, wasn’t it?

  • Comment 92, posted at 03.07.08 12:11:53 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 90) :

    Yeh and we all could see for ourself when he played that he clearly had…

  • Comment 93, posted at 03.07.08 12:12:56 by Hmmm Reply

  • @wpw (Comment 91) :

    Then it must have been the following year…cozz I am sure Andre got injured in NZ with Slappies on his back….

    YOu sure you not think Slappies scored it cozz he dove on Snymans back!??!

  • Comment 94, posted at 03.07.08 12:15:15 by Hmmm Reply

  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 92) :

    Not the one I am talking about…it was a kick from Lem that was charged down by the AB’s picked up by Snayman and no stopping…until Slappies felt the urge to jump on his onw player’s back after he already scored the try!??!

  • Comment 95, posted at 03.07.08 12:16:54 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 94) :

    I do know that it was Pieter Rossouw who scored the try in the match..

  • Comment 96, posted at 03.07.08 12:17:18 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 93) : Maybe he forgot to release the hand brake… 🙄

  • Comment 97, posted at 03.07.08 12:19:30 by Charlie Reply

  • It was a move that Honiball came up with. Worked perfectly with Slappes going in under the posts.

  • Comment 98, posted at 03.07.08 12:20:05 by ra-cheltjie de' be-er Reply

  • From my Database:

    Matchdate: 1998/07/25
    Name: Pieter Rossouw
    Pos: 11
    Tries: 1
    Points: 5

  • Comment 99, posted at 03.07.08 12:21:04 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • Other points came from a conversion and 2 penalties from Monty

  • Comment 100, posted at 03.07.08 12:22:22 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 100) :

    Then it must have been the year after…
    When did Andre get injured!??!

  • Comment 101, posted at 03.07.08 12:31:25 by Hmmm Reply

  • I read the first 25 comments and gave up.

    Why is nobody moaning about #46 getting in ahead of Kankowski or Spies on the bench? 👿

  • Comment 102, posted at 03.07.08 19:55:47 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 46) :

    @Charlie (Comment 47) :

    We will see on the weekend. I am not saying he can’t tackle but he IS more likely to miss one than Steyn is.

    That said, i would still have started with him ahead of Steyn for his other attributes.

  • Comment 103, posted at 03.07.08 20:00:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 102) : It seems such a little thing. I would also pick Luke ahead of Spies anyway. Kanko shouldn’t be playing anyway

  • Comment 104, posted at 03.07.08 20:00:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • @AK ( Bull in Shark clothing ) (Comment 48) :

    That IS a bit heavy.

    I may on occasion be unhappy with a team that has been selected but I will NEVER NOT support the Boks.

  • Comment 105, posted at 03.07.08 20:02:47 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 104) :

    No way, i would choose him ahead of either Spies or Kankow. If kankow is out because of his concussion then that is fair but i would still pick Spies ahead of the the guy who had his Watermelons stolen

  • Comment 106, posted at 03.07.08 20:04:46 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 106) : Can’t you just judge him on his rugby? 🙂

  • Comment 107, posted at 03.07.08 20:12:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 107) :

    that’s why Spies should get the nod ahead of him. (presuming kankow is out because of concussion

  • Comment 108, posted at 04.07.08 07:21:42 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 108) : Ok. I just think Luke’s defence and workrate are better than Spies’s

  • Comment 109, posted at 04.07.08 07:29:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 109) : I think Luke has played better than Cyborg this whole season.

  • Comment 110, posted at 04.07.08 08:00:27 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 110) : yeah – I agree with you.

    I think it’s kind of ironic that the year in which the “powers” forced Luke’s selection was the only year out of the last three when he wasn’t playing well enough to deserve to be in the squad.

  • Comment 111, posted at 04.07.08 08:21:49 by robdylan Reply
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