Plumtree sees the silver lining

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, In the news, Sharks on 8 Jul 2008 at 09:09

In one of the stranger chapters in South African rugby history, AJ Venter once argued his way out of his contract with the Lions on the basis that Durban uniquely offered the sea and sand training that he needed to take his fitness to a new level, and the Sharks indeed make use of their Indian Ocean natural resource as often as possible.

Mike Greenaway writes for IOL.

On Monday, conditioning coach Mark Steele put the squad through a gruelling session at North Beach that had many of the players panting with exhaustion.

Not among that number were Rory Kockott, Bradley Barritt or Steven Sykes, the injured trio who missed the trip to Loftus Versfeld and are still recuperating.

“They will join us this morning for training, and if they get through the session they will be considered for Friday’s match against the Falcons,” said coach John Plumtree.

Plumtree was reasonably upbeat about his team’s performance against the Bulls, despite the defeat.

“We put together some pretty good passages of play against a team I rate as the best in the competition,” he said.

“And we would have been more effective if there had not been so many lengthy stoppages. Our plan was to tire out the bigger Bulls players, but that obviously did not come off.

“I was proud of the way we hung in. We were undone, though, by some costly defensive errors, some incorrect tactics in the lineouts and a little inexperience. But there are number of positives that we can take from that game.”

Plumtree said there was no chance of his team underestimating the Falcons.

“We hopefully learned a lesson from the Boland game,” the coach said of his team’s disappointing showing against a plucky Cavaliers team a fortnight ago. “The leaders in our side have to ensure the mental side of our game is correct for this match, because the Falcons are proving to be a handful.”

The Lions almost lost to the Brakpan team at the weekend; they led Boland by 30 points before losing in the second half; and they beat Griquas.


  • the Sharks might just sneak a win against the Valke… if this wasnt the sad truth it would be funny. Hell, i hope Brad, Rory and Sykes are back for this game

  • Comment 1, posted at 08.07.08 09:37:42 by spykerbaard Reply
  • After the cavaliers game they have already lost many supporters that will now definately not come to watch this game. They need a convincing win for the home ground faithful. (Unfortunately a lot of the home ground faithful are also fickle)

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.07.08 09:51:48 by flop Reply
  • @flop (Comment 2) : times are getting harder and wallets tighter, is the thing.

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.07.08 10:17:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • Plum is an optimist….

  • Comment 4, posted at 08.07.08 10:36:16 by Hmmm Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 3) : The Shark – Tank is not the same hey…I think people need a bit of counselling…

  • Comment 5, posted at 08.07.08 10:37:08 by blackshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 3) : And traffic to the Stadium is HELL! with all the traffic lights not functioning and many detours before you can get to the Stadium!

  • Comment 6, posted at 08.07.08 10:45:54 by Sharksmad Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 5) : @Sharksmad (Comment 6) :

    My opinion is the Shark tank is in a crap place…
    The only other stadium in a craper place is Ellis park

  • Comment 7, posted at 08.07.08 10:49:23 by Hmmm Reply

  • Rob, if the Sharks were playing like they did last CC, with 14 men at Loftus beating the Bulls, people would pitch up at Kings Park just to forget about the hard times for a couple of hours (and your blog here would have a 100 fans escaping into the relishment of the moment)

  • Comment 8, posted at 08.07.08 10:57:42 by spykerbaard Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 7) : Not really Hmmm I have never felt threatened going in, inside or leaving the Stadium even on the odd ocasion I have gone on my own, and its really festive. However, with Durban going through all this construction for 2010 it has made the route to the Stadium really difficult to negotiate, especially as in my case and many others you have already driven 82kms to get there! And the worst of it is the council does not have the sense to have anyone directing the traffic when there are no traffic lights working. How Durbs is going to cope with 2010 is a mystery!

  • Comment 9, posted at 08.07.08 10:59:00 by Sharksmad Reply

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  • @spykerbaard (Comment 8) : Agree. Why do you think I’m so annoyed? πŸ™‚

  • Comment 10, posted at 08.07.08 10:59:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 10) :
    you’ve got to change your fantasy league rules, make it easier for everybody to do well πŸ™„ πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 11, posted at 08.07.08 11:13:30 by spykerbaard Reply

  • @spykerbaard (Comment 11) : in what way?

  • Comment 12, posted at 08.07.08 11:23:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 7) : I don’t mind the location of the stadium… we go there for rugby and soccer and we’ve never had a ny bad experiences.

    The traffic and parking is a challenge but honestly we hardly drive there…

    @Sharksmad (Comment 9) : Before and after the games…the fun continues…

    But I’m concerned with the “funeral buzz” that you feel during the game.
    It’s like people are scared to show their emotions…God-forbid we lose the game in the last second… πŸ™„

  • Comment 13, posted at 08.07.08 11:24:25 by blackshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) :
    i have no idea Rob as i dont even play, it was a joke. . . maybe let the guys change their players every now and then and chase the form players, or when there are injuries

  • Comment 14, posted at 08.07.08 11:30:38 by spykerbaard Reply

  • @blackshark (Comment 13) : I think this season the Sharks have not produced the promising rugby that they did the last season, and the silverware is looking as distant as ever, and even the faithful of the Tank are starting to get despondent a bit.

  • Comment 15, posted at 08.07.08 11:31:04 by Sharksmad Reply

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  • As an outsider looking in, your youngsters like Keegan, Waylon, Cilliers (is he injured), JPP, Barritt are not performing like they did a few years back…


  • Comment 16, posted at 08.07.08 11:33:10 by wpw Reply
  • @spykerbaard (Comment 14) : The selling-point was the “no mainteinance” part.

    For other fantasy squads you are allowed a smaller team with changes to accomodate loss of form and injuries. With this one you had an opportunity to pick a huge squad to accomodate guys who don’t have time to makes changes.

    Like all games there’s a lot of RISK involved. I don’t think any of us had any illusions about this when we “signed up”. πŸ™‚

  • Comment 17, posted at 08.07.08 11:35:53 by blackshark Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 16) : Cilliers is injured. Barritt I think I don’t think is to blame, remember he is the one that Muir kept on moving for to make way for his beloved Steyn! Waylon no way near his 2007 form I will not even go onto JPP and Cilliers is still battling with his injury.

  • Comment 18, posted at 08.07.08 11:37:09 by Sharksmad Reply

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  • @Sharksmad (Comment 18) 😳 blonde moment! I am sure you gathered from the 1st sentence that Cilliers is injured.

  • Comment 19, posted at 08.07.08 11:38:07 by Sharksmad Reply

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  • @Sharksmad (Comment 9) :

    But it still looks very dirty and 3rd world like….

    That is where loftus/newlands/springbok park are much better off than Ellis Park and ABSA Park…

    Is the Sharks Tank going to move across the street when that statium is finished…and what will be happening to the current stadium?

  • Comment 20, posted at 08.07.08 11:44:51 by Hmmm Reply

  • @spykerbaard (Comment 11) :

    Don’t go there!??! Very touchy point….LoL

  • Comment 21, posted at 08.07.08 11:46:32 by Hmmm Reply

  • As long as the Sharks are giving up half and more of their Super 14 squad to the Boks for Tr-nations duty then they will battle in the Currie Cup. Every injury is now really felt. My view is that if the Sharks can maintain within contention then while the Boks are away then they will have a good chance of being in contention for the CC playoffs. In the meantime many a rookie is getting game time against many established Super 14 players and that can only add to their development.

  • Comment 22, posted at 08.07.08 11:48:38 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 17) :
    thanks for the info BS, i understand it better now… it was just a joke though, the search for more a pleasurable escape πŸ™‚

  • Comment 23, posted at 08.07.08 11:52:46 by spykerbaard Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 20) : There is a majour tussle going on between the municipality and the Sharks,in that regard. The Municipality is trying to force the Sharks to move into this White elephant that they are building, while the Sharks do not wish to move there. The new stadium is a multipurpose stadium and the Rugby pitch will be surrounded by an athletics track, so will take the action further away from the spectators which the Sharks are not happy about. The usual South African planning! Instead of spending half the 52 million or so Rands they have spent in rebuilding this white elephant in revamping ABSA they opt to build a white elephant which they do not know what to do with after 2010!

  • Comment 24, posted at 08.07.08 11:53:36 by Sharksmad Reply

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  • enjoy some good schoolboy rugby…KZN Craven week team playing Griffins at 2 o’clock

  • Comment 25, posted at 08.07.08 12:17:22 by spykerbaard Reply

  • Damn but I am bored…

  • Comment 26, posted at 08.07.08 12:33:59 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 26) : Get a gatsby… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 27, posted at 08.07.08 12:37:34 by Charlie Reply

  • I havent been to Kings Park for years but the impression I get is that it still looks pretty good, that is from match day pictures as well as from what can be seen on the Shark Bite programme when they often have inserts from outside the stadium. Doe it really look so bad?

  • Comment 28, posted at 08.07.08 12:39:14 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Nah, haven’t had one in ages…

    Ek hou my ‘figure’ dop… lol :mrgreen:

  • Comment 29, posted at 08.07.08 12:41:29 by wpw Reply
  • @Salmonoid (Comment 28) : It looked good when we played Province.

    Look…there’s construction going on next door…but I wouldn’t go as far as 3rd world…whatever that means…

  • Comment 30, posted at 08.07.08 13:39:07 by blackshark Reply

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  • @Sharksmad (Comment 24) :

    Oh well if there is a Athletics track then the Sharks should gooi them a big fat sign…

    Lets just hope they not able to influence SA Rugby…cozz they might end up not playing any tests at ABSA Park….

  • Comment 31, posted at 08.07.08 13:47:59 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Salmonoid (Comment 28) :

    Inside but not out!??!

  • Comment 32, posted at 08.07.08 13:49:29 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 31) : I don’t know what the big idea was with building a NEW stadium anyway…but hopefully this will all end well for everyone involved.

  • Comment 33, posted at 08.07.08 13:49:31 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 33) :

    And across the road nogal!??!

    But apparently (if I remember correctly) the Shark Tank cannot be improved or will cost too much to improve!??! Some engineering reason that I cannot give any comment on cozz that is WAAAAAAAY out of my league….

  • Comment 34, posted at 08.07.08 14:01:22 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 34) : Ja , I read some article trying to explain that…but I didn’t get it either. I thought we could just fix a few things and more rows…but apparently it’s not that simple.

  • Comment 35, posted at 08.07.08 14:57:08 by blackshark Reply

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  • Personally as an outsider from the land of crappy sports and cold impersonal stadiums I think Kings Park is perfect just the way it is. There is just something about the design of ‘older’ stadiums that make you (or at least me) feel like I’m a part of whatever sport is being played there.

    These days everyone seems to jump on the bigger and better bandwagon and the fans lose out both in the experience of the game and the increased amount of money coming out thier wallets. This year sadly i think they are due to tear down both Yankee stadium and Shea stadium. No respect at all in my opinion for the history that is locked in both those buildings.

  • Comment 36, posted at 08.07.08 16:22:02 by Milissa Reply

  • @Milissa (Comment 36) : Lots of history in Yankee Stadium, but honestly Shea Stadium is a joke, not much history there, and remember, the Mets have only been around since the 60s, so their history is limited. I have seen games at Shea, and the stadium sucks, with little history, good riddance I say. Also, can’t stand the constant jet noise at Shea being so close to La Guardia airport.

  • Comment 37, posted at 08.07.08 17:00:18 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Milissa (Comment 36) :
    Milissa you live, hope all is well. Im glad you enjoyed Kings Park, I now I always had good times there.

  • Comment 38, posted at 08.07.08 17:17:57 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 35) :

    Yeh…guess so…

  • Comment 39, posted at 08.07.08 17:23:43 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Milissa (Comment 36) :

    But Durban (cozz of it’s Airport) is set for a quarter final game in 2010…so they are going for numbers….

    But they will first have to upgrade Durban International as it is a very very small airport….even Cape Town…or am I just used to JHB Int (ORT)…but then again ORT is small when compared to most European and US Airports….

  • Comment 40, posted at 08.07.08 17:26:14 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 40) :
    If Im not mistaken Durban is getting a whole new international airport somewhere on the north coast (La Mercy ?. This is also not that new because they were talking about it in the 80s already.

  • Comment 41, posted at 09.07.08 09:04:07 by Salmonoid Reply
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