The Valke lie in wait for Vodacom Western Province in Brakpan.
Will the home team build on a few solid outings of late?
Or will Province have learned a harsh lesson after their shock loss to Griquas?
Kick-off is at 19h10.
Teams:
Falcons: 15 Nicky Kritzinger, 14 Dewald Pretorius, 13 Rouan Cloete, 12 Hanno Coetzee (captain), 11 Johan Swartz, 10 Len Olivier, 9 Gerrie Odendaal, 8 Sean Plaatjies, 7 Warren Perkins, 6 Reg Muller, 5 Marius Coetzer, 4 Wouter Moore, 3 Nico Pretorius, 2 Ryno Barnes, 1 Frik Venter.
Replacements: 16 Jody Jeneker, 17 Rassie van Vuuren, 18 Reggie Perkins, 19 Emile Verster, 20 Freddie van Zyl, 21 Jeff Perkins, 22 Dean Bergsteedt.
Western Province: 15 Gio Aplon, 14 Tonderai Chavhanga, 13 PJ Vermeulen, 12 Gcobani Bobo (captain), 11 Wylie Human, 10 Willem De Waal, 9 Dewald Duvenage, 8 AJ Venter, 7 Francois Louw, 6 Justin Melck, 5 Ross Skeate, 4 Adriaan Fondse, 3 Brok Harris, 2 Deon Fourie, 1 Wicus Blaauw.
Replacements: 16 Simon Westraadt, 17 Schalk Ferreira, 18 Pieter Louw, 19 Conraad Britz, 20 Alastair Siegelaar, 21 Naas Olivier, 22 Morgan Newman.
Referee: Marius Jonker
Touch judges: Stuart Berry, Lappies Labuschagne
TMO: Willie Roos

Ek Skreeeenie Weepeeeenie, ekblye VALK!
I’m hoping for the harsh lesson. π
Hopefully I’ll get to see some of it.
@ra-cheltjie deβ be-er (Comment 3) : is it on Sky?
@robdylan (Comment 4) : For a change not. Last season Sky broadcast almost all the Valke’s matches.
As is customary- Screw SB…VAAAAAALKE!!!
@ra-cheltjie deβ be-er (Comment 5) : yeah – I remember that. Part of the reason I kicked it into touch. Now i have it again and really want to watch tonight’s game π
Rachel, what broadband do you have? And what speed do you get? Mine has been so slow of late that I can’t even watch anything on kuduclub.
As an eternal supporter of Western Province I hope Die Streeptruie will win.
Anyway I like very much Rudi Joubert XV’s and I shall be very afraid of their loss.
Go Goats!
@robdylan (Comment 7) : My ISP (Tiscali) claims up to 8Mb but it’s more like 3Mb, which seems to work fine for watching rugby on mediazone.
@ra-cheltjie deβ be-er (Comment 9) : ah – ok. I also have the “up to 8MB” thing going but because I live in an OAP bungalow, my lines are old and vrot. I never get much above a Meg, even though they claim I should get 2.
@robdylan (Comment 7) : The missus only recently re-activated our Kuduclub account, but I hardly ever watch anything on there. Watch a rugby ‘vasvra’ program the other day. π Don’t know who gives that crap the go ahead.
Watch = watched.
@ra-cheltjie deβ be-er (Comment 11) : Kobus Wiese and Doos van der Westhuizen stuff?
Looking forward to seeing Dewald Pretorius in action finally.
Go province!!!!!!!!!
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 14) : are you feeling unwell? Maybe your brain doesn’t work so well away from the desert…? π
Welcome to the new site, BTW π
@robdylan (Comment 15) :
I like the new logo. π
Thought I had come back to Coastalworld.co.za π
Can’t bring myself to shout for the Valke, they are just TOOOOO close to Tswane. π
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 16) : yeah – but check out all teh ex-Sharks lads they have…
Oh and I see that Richardt Strauss is finally in the Cheetahs squad.
Am surprised that he hasn’t been chosen to start.
I hope he scores a try coz he ain’t gonna be on a winning team π
@robdylan (Comment 17) :
A Sharks turning into a Bull is even worse than being a Bull from the start. π And the Valke are essentially a Bulls feeder union. π
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 19) :
KSA Shark
hope you enjoyed your SA holidays (perhaps you are still on holidays there…)
PROOOOOOOOVINCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@H.O. (Comment 20) :
yes i am still on vacation here π
last weekend for me though. π
I will send you a text message tonight with the final score. π
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 18) : Burden’s gonna score 3 π
@robdylan (Comment 22) :
That’d be cool. he is in my FL squad, problem is that he is in most FL squads. π
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 23) : Yup. Quite widely owned
@robdylan (Comment 4) : Yep, it’s on Sky sports Xtra
SA 4 down , Kallis and Amla right after each other..nice!
KSA howz the holiday ?
5-0 Valke
3:48
Conversion to come
Try by Nicky Kritzinger
Conversion Over by Len Olivier
@CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 26) :
hey CSB.
It’s a blast. Just got back from Swaziland last night. π
CSB
Is Showsport showing the match?
Willem De Waal Penalty and the score is
7 – 3 Valke
9min
Amla walks back..not out..ball bounced 1st π
Excellent KSA..luckybum…I love Swaziland..one of my favourite places.
Aai but WP are playing crap. Anothe Valke try
Len Olivier Try.
It was from a LO in their 22 caused by W De Waal taking the ball into his 22 and kicking it out on the full.
14- 3 to the valke
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 30) :
Unfortunatly not π They only tend to show one CC game a weekend..generally between the top sides.
@CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 32) :
i try and get there as often as possible. Hlane.
Conversion over by Len olivier.
14 – 3 Valke
11min
Fondse Try.
These game is to fast for my dial up π
Valke are busy messing wif my bru !
De Waal misses the conversion
14 – 8
14min
High scoring game coming
@CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 39) :
π
Only about four okes not being messed wif I tink
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 40) : Glad you’re back.Between you and the other half, we stay updated with the games! π
Valke showing their intentions by going for touch with a penalty inside the WP half.
mess up the LO with an over throw though π
@Silver Fox (Comment 42) :
π
Human almost beats Kritzinger but an ankle tap brings him down on the Valke 22.
Forward try by WP.
Brok Harris gets the credit. (In my FL team)
Conversion over by De Waal
14 – 15 WP
23min
BJ vermeulen try being refered to the TMO.
No try, Forward pass called by TMO Roos.
Man, that field looks hard
WP lose the ball forward ON the Valke line π
Skeate is such a girl
@robdylan (Comment 49) :
You know the field is dry when the lines are green or blue (still not sure which) and the field is like an AWB uniform. π
I wonder if ERT is there
How about some of you guy’s impressions of the game? Quality and so on? Also if someone or other are having a good or bad game?
And the girl gets a yellow
@robdylan (Comment 51) :
At least he was not crying like a girl when he got the yellow carded a minute ago π
VALKE TRY!!!!
Ryno Barnes
@Silver Fox (Comment 54) :
My apologies for not giving more commentary but i am still in SA and on Dial-up π³
Conversion Over
21 – 15 Valke
35min
Valke BP TRY
My man Dewald pretorius scored.
Conversion over
28 – 15 Valke
38min
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 57) : You are totally forgiven. I am alas staying in SA with only SABC to rely on. Therefore it should be clear why I have been pestering Rob for the autorefresh thing. Just DESPERATE for a bit of rugby!! π‘
Half Time
Valke 28 – 15 WP
Valke have scored two tries in the time Skeate has been resting and he still has another 1:50 left in the 2nd half.
Even if the Valke go on to lose here tonight, they have still shown that they are a hell of a different team from what they were last year.
Go valke
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 57) :
Dial up! π― Do you make your own clothes too???
I aint got anything against the Gay- I WP, but man, this Valke team is a joy to watch!
In Platjies they have a skillful (if vet) 8th man, they have a very, very slick and creative 10 in Olivier, and the ball skills of the whole team is just great.
Seriously, who is their backline coach? Sharks could do with that guy asap!
They are the most exciting team to watch from all the CC games I have watched!
It’s on Sky. π
Just when you think things can get worse… π― πΏ
Close of Play Day One in England
England 203 All out
SA 103 / 3
McKenzie c Flintoff b Anderson 15
Smith c Strauss b Flintoff 44
Amla not out 18
Kallis b Anderson 4
Prince not out 9
True. The Valke are a damn good side. Kind of puts our result into perspective
@ra-cheltjie deβ be-er (Comment 67) :
Does that mean it was kak when you were reading the updates and now that you have found out that you can see them play on sky it is worse. π
Rouan Cloete TRY for Valke!!!!!!!
43min
How good was that!
Conversion over
35 – 18 Valke
44min
Valke did well to keep the ball alive. Skeate could have come on about 2 minutes earlier but there was not stoppage to allow it.
@robdylan (Comment 72) :
Good enough for me to think my SB point is gone.
Province are in deep kak here
One of the better games this season?
Some haPPy chaPPies here in the pOOl tonite?
π
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 70) : Missed the 1st half. Seems I might as skip the 2nd. π₯
De waal is so one dimensional it’s frightening
@Oranje Orakel (Comment 77) : We will be depressed again tomorrow
Red π―
Province get their lifeline
Aplon Dumped on his head BIG TIME.
Johan Swarts get’s a RED CARD.
Now they will have a true test of character
And then you get some plaas idiot who watches too much wrestling… πΏ
Deserved red card for Valke 11 for a stupid spear tackle.
swartz red card for a textbook spear tackle
@robdylan (Comment 79) :
Horses for courses Rob – I always maintained that the Cheetahs pack allowed him to shine. WP dont have the same strengths, and so it doesnt really suit him.
JDV back at 12 will help him no end though, as will having a 9 who can make things happen.
There’s a bit of stupidity to highlight Rob.
At least SwartZ is lucky. Thorne only got a one week suspension for a similar tackle. π
Fondse Try!!!!!!!
They are going to lose a game they had won
Conversion over
35 – 25 Valke
52min
@Silver Fox (Comment 87) : Yes. Will do
My WP by 11 picks could still be on here tonight.
Province scrum getting nailed
Aplon either worried about being dumped again or still suffering from the previous one but he spill a ball that was passed to him right in the basket and no player putting pressure on him π
Jody is going to have a ball when he comes on
Marius Jonker: “Kom on kry die skrum reg, die mense daar buite lag vir julle” π π
I reckon we call this place valkeworld from now on.
Nice break by Len Olivier. No score.
Valke get penalty 10m out and decide to go at goal.
good call. waste time and stretch your lead.
My new official second favourite team
Sharks need Olivier
@robdylan (Comment 97) :
only if they win.
or maybe we can call it “NOT WP World” π
Olivier misses his first shot at goal. π
35 – 25 Valke
60min
Newman Butchers a pass out wide for WP.
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 101) : It was a sitter!
Replay shows Dewald Pretorius’ strength in the run once again.
@robdylan (Comment 103) :
On the 15m line, but he should have got it.
Human drops the ball in contact.
Krynnow otto in a Valke Jacket on the side of the pitch.
#7 Blue get’s sent to the bin after the TJs talk to the ref.
Valke have just won this game.
Well IMO at least.
Go Valke
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 106) : I think he’s their forward coach
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 107) : Shit. He’s in my fantasy league team
@robdylan (Comment 108) :
I think so as well, wasn’t gonna commit to it though π
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 106) :
Members of the coaching staff sometimes do that nowdays oubaas. Modern times you know. π
@robdylan (Comment 109) :
BWHAHAHAHAHHAA
@Big Fish (Comment 111) :
π π
must have happened while i was having an afternoon snooze π³
Chavhanga stopped 2m short π³
WP get over the line but are held up.
5m attacking scrum, WP put in.
WP were having a hard time already and now they are a man short in the skrum.
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 114) :
He has done nothing to show that he deserved to be in the Bok team to begin with.
Bobo has tried very hard.
Anybody else note how anonymous Ou AJ is on the field? Punch drunk boxer who doesnt know when to stay down. π
WP go off their feet at ruck and Valke have a clearance PK.
35 – 25 Valke
70min
@Big Fish (Comment 117) :
I was actually just looking to see if he is on. haven’t heard his name ONCE.
Valke are turning over WP ball at the tackle and ruck at will. π―
Wylie Human scores the WP BP try under the poles after a break by Newman.
Sorry not under the poles but close.
Conversion Over
35 – 32 Valke
75min
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 122) : What a finish
Penalty advantage right in front to Valke
KSA
Can you legally feed the scrum from the TH side?
Valke go over but held up.
No advantage, Bobo not back 10 from the PK.
79min
@Oranje Orakel (Comment 125) :
Yes. You can feed from any side.
@Oranje Orakel (Comment 125) : I wouldn’t think so. Left-footed hooker?
PK Over for the Valke
Game Over
Log updated
What was the final score?
Not much one can say about this. Bunch of moffies. Enough to drive me to drink. π
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 119) :
Been there all game!!!
Well done Valke! π―
Now for tomorrow.May the sharks cover themselves in glory!! Thanks and cheers.
@robdylan (Comment 130) :
Valke 38 – 25 WP
Eish – I lost my post
saying thanks for the reFFing tip!
Eish We are playing Valke next week!
LOL!
Province have much work to do
@Oranje Orakel (Comment 125) :
The relevant Law, the only restriction is that he cannot change sides if once the scrum has set.
20.5 THROWING THE BALL INTO THE SCRUM
(a) No Delay. As soon as the front rows have come together, the scrum half must throw in the ball without delay. The scrum half must throw in the ball when told to do so by the referee. The scrum half must throw in the ball from the side of the scrum first chosen.
Penalty: Free Kick
@walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 137) :
Some people might not find it that funny π
Eish! π
@Oranje Orakel (Comment 136) : Beware! There be dragons
Look, Valke are a better side than one might believe. but the WP players muct look at themselves – cant blame the coaches for dropping balls and missing tackles.
But really, I was very impressed by the Valke team, and this is not about taking a dig at the WP team.
Sean Plaatjies was one the first non-white rugby players who made it big, and like Wayne van Heerden, he was pushed too fast and not supported, all in the name of numbers. He showed again tonight that he has plenty of skill, even in the twilight of his career.
I see Jody put in a few of his trademark monstrous hits too. Len Oliver and Dewald Pretorius are very good players.
KSA- 134 Really?
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 139) : I am shocked to learn that
GOOD evening all!!
When I made a post earlier this week anout “the Valke being next” I hardly believed my own silly joke. Seems when I am joking I need to be taken serious and visa versa!!
I have taken a liking in the Valke’s way of playing ever since they played against the Sharks…these are guys that look HUNGRY to play the game and a running game at that too. Its rather exciting watching them.
I reckon the big five should get some chequebooks out…Len oilivier is one exciting little player.. π
I am obviously talking from a total woman / blonde / rugby enjoying point of view and not from experience.. π or technical stuff – but these blokes DESERVED to win!!
I am more so convinced that WP is a bunch of glamour boys (and maybe slightly on the gayish side..
) – it seems they have a problem playing on hard soil…not like the lushious green matress they are used to..
And whats up with De Waals little dancing steps…does he think he is still taking a few steps on the dance floor in Mystic Boer in Bloem??
π
@blackshark (Comment 144) :
No Not really, it was 38 – 32. π³
i have no idea why i posted 25. π³
@Iβce (Rebel With a Cause) (Comment 146) :
Len Olivier is not bad, but Dewald Pretorius is my tip for a step up to the S14 next season.
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 148) :
That is the Captain, right..? π³
Hi Fish – how’s the mouth?? Still Holiwood smile?? π
Plaatjies does play a heck of a game – as Joel pointed out – for a out-o-shape-looking player..and old-looking too!! But how’s that “BEER” – nr 17 I think – that is one HUGE mother!
I guess die manne van die panne is gonna paint Brakkies RED for the next WEEK!!
@Iβce (Rebel With a Cause) (Comment 146) :
Ice, Ice baby… Vanilla Ice, Ice baby.
I also enjoy their style of play – very creative, fast and exciting.
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 148) :
Len oliver is a tad bit better than “not bad”. π
@Big Fish (Comment 150) :
Ahhh – at least someone agrees with me somewhat! π
BTW – sorry for my ignorance – Rudi Joubert – who has he coached before?
@Iβce (Rebel With a Cause) (Comment 151) :
Bulls.
Thanks for the concern – no worries, I still have my looks. π
We always agree with you, somtimes not cos you are right, but just cos you are Ice. π
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 148) :
Hahaha – sorry – I was thinking of Hanno Coetzee….my bad..
@Iβce (Rebel With a Cause) (Comment 151) : Boland and the Bulls
KSA…dont make it worse than it is for our coastal friends. π
Well done Valke…
Geez, thats dented my weekend quite badly.
Time for me to bounce people – catch ya’all for the Bok game.
Have a great evening!
Bulls are going to run away with it this year. Makes me mad
Go check the records, after the Lions vs Valke game I said watch this Valke team, they will give some of the other big teams a run for their money…only took 2 weeks…
@molly (Comment 156) : Sorry molly. Must be a bitter pill for the province fans
@robdylan (Comment 160) : π₯ I’m just glad I missed the first half. Besides, I’m blaming Ice for her comment this week π
Nighty Night Fish!
Thanks Rob – I thought he coached some “big” team…hell he sure as hell is not doing to bad with these blokeys…IMO..
Molly – I only wihed i belived my own silly joke…my SB would have gotten a seriously needed boost!! π
@walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 159) : Makes me feel so much better about beating them last night. Province got two points though, right?
I found it…LOL! This was my post on 7 July..
>>>>
This Valke side didnβt look bad, Iβm sure they might surprise one or two teams this year. Their coach said that they are aiming for at least 6th place to avoid the relegation playoffs.
Comment 76, posted at 07.07.08 13:05:46 by walter van transvaal.co.za
@robdylan (Comment 158) : They are playing good rugby though. I don’t hate them as much as normal, cause its pretty… even Olivier to an extent π³
@molly (Comment 161) :
Good Golly Miss Molly…I knew that was gonna come! π
@robdylan (Comment 163) :
yes, 2 points, 1 for 4 tries and one for ending within 7
@walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 164) :
[email protected] Walter…did not have to go and do a search…we believed you.. π
@molly (Comment 165) : He is definitely not related to either Naas or Wynand
@Iβce (Rebel With a Cause) (Comment 168) : Hope he used the cool search function
@Iβce (Rebel With a Cause) (Comment 168) :
So I said they will surprise one OR TWO sides this year…who’s next? LOL!
@robdylan (Comment 169) :
@robdylan (Comment 170) :
I did it the easy way, clicked on Lions under categories because I knew I said it on the Lions vs Valke thread…
@Iβce (Rebel With a Cause) (Comment 166) : hehe… I knew that “joke” wasn’t too funny. π
@walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 171) : The bulls. I hope
@walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 171) :
Geez Waltie ( I sound like Paula from 7e Laan fame π ) hopefully anyone that poses a threat to the Sharks…I’ll take any advantage I can get! π
@molly (Comment 174) :
And I thought it WAS..

@walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 173) : So long as you found it
@robdylan (Comment 158) :
hehehe- remember 2005 Boet!
ANything is poSSible!
Anyways Peeps – have a splendid evening – I am gonna catch some ZZZZZZ!!
Well done VALKE!! You make rugby very exciting to watch! π
What did Skeate get the yellow for? He is such an average player, talk of him being a Springbok drives me insane.
@molly (Comment 181) :
Spear tackle
Alrighty then. Thanx WP for making us so proud… Two consecutive losses against minnows. Coetzee is proving to be useless
@molly (Comment 181) : The french actually did wp a favour
@wpw (Comment 183) : Seems like it. All that pride I had regathered from the s14 has been lost, will have to resume to a WP supporter in hiding.
@robdylan (Comment 184) : Can’t believe they actually wanted to buy him. Losing Francois was a MUCH bigger loss.
Cheers guys…long day tomorrow…
@blackshark (Comment 187) : Sleep tight
@molly (Comment 185) : Most Province fans stay in the closet π
@robdylan (Comment 189) : Was wondering how long it would take for the gay jokes to catch on here. π‘
Nah, its just freakin frustrating playing KAK rugby, I’m sure you can relate π
@molly (Comment 190) : Ouch. But at least we beat the Valke π
I can always console myself with the fact that we beat the bulls. π π
Ok lads, thats it I’m off to cry myself to sleep…
Have a goodie, and maybe catch you all after the Bok win.
Ja nee. I for the life of me cant understand certain decisions by the WP management. AJ, De Waal + Wylie are not performing + then they let guys with a proven track record like Egon, Kakerlakie, etc leave. And dont get me started on Naas Olivier
@wpw (Comment 194) : At least you have Naas as your backup
That Valke scrummy looks a good thing too. Second week I’ve been impressed with him. Odendaal or something. Little terrier!
@Villie (Comment 196) : He looks rof, hey? Also an Affies boy, I think
@walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 171) :
They’ve had their chance to try and surprise us. π well for this first round anyway. π We still have to go to Brakpan.
Fortunately we will have out Boks back then.
@KSA Shark Β© (Comment 198) : no contest then.
Man, I am becoming such a huge Valke fan π