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Saturday’s laws change – again

Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Springboks on 6 Aug 2008 at 07:31
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The laws for Saturday’s Mandela Challenge match between South Africa and Argentina at Coca-Cola Park will be played with the full experimental law variations which came into operation on 1 August.

Rugby 365 reports that the Laws will be new to everybody – players and match officials alike.

They are not the laws used in the Tri-Nations as those are the ELVs used in the Super 14 but the Springboks should be more at home with them than the Pumas or indeed the referee, Wayne Barnes. The Pumas and the referee have not played under any form of ELV at international level.

For this reason Barnes went up to George last weekend and refereed a Division 1 Currie Cup match.

The most obvious difference between ELVs in the Tri-Nations and these “global” ELVs is in the sanctions. It is likely that there could be more penalties and scrums and much fewer free kicks this weekend.

The weekend after that the Springboks will be pack to Tri-Nations ELVs.

The officials for Saturday:

Referee: Wayne Barnes (England)
Touch judges: Matt Goddard (Australia), James Leckie (Australia)
Television match official: Geoff Warren (England)
Assessor: Tappe Henning (IRB)


  • Madness

  • Comment 1, posted at 06.08.08 07:44:25 by McLovin Reply
  • @McLovin (Comment 1) :

    I agree this is madness but can understand the situation though.

    Until there is a universal global season then we will have this situation when there are law changes. Add to that until we have Sanzar sticking to the IRB Laws then we will also still have the situation.

  • Comment 2, posted at 06.08.08 08:30:59 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • So not only are we playing 4 games in a row…
    A must win all 4 games…
    But we charging the laws again…
    Let’s hope the players cope and it don’t get messy….

  • Comment 3, posted at 06.08.08 09:21:38 by Hmmm Reply
  • LUDICROUS… should simply be the same as the 3N… why SARU agree to this goes to show what a cunch of bunts they are!

  • Comment 4, posted at 06.08.08 09:45:59 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • Particularly not running Goddard or even Leckie over Barnes…

  • Comment 5, posted at 06.08.08 09:47:37 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • So is this game being played with the same laws as the Currie Cup?

  • Comment 6, posted at 06.08.08 09:48:23 by McLovin Reply
  • @McLovin (Comment 6) :

    yes that is correct.

  • Comment 7, posted at 06.08.08 09:58:07 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 7) : Thank you.

  • Comment 8, posted at 06.08.08 10:02:08 by McLovin Reply
  • This is nonsense…like playing rugby one week and soccer in the following week. This will just confuse the hell out of everybody involved. Which version are we using at youth level?

  • Comment 9, posted at 06.08.08 10:21:46 by blackshark Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 9) : The same as the CC Laws.

    The Big confusion came about with the S14 only using some of the laws.

    The WHOLE world is currently playing with the same laws as our CC EXCEPT for the 3Ns they are still playing their own variation.

  • Comment 10, posted at 06.08.08 10:33:28 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Should be tough trying to explain to some youngster why he shouldnt try some of the stuff he sees on tv at home.

  • Comment 11, posted at 06.08.08 10:37:38 by blackshark Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 11) :

    It’s not just the youngsters.

    Even as far back as 2000 when i was still reffing in SA you would have to explain to a guy that what he saw on the TV in the S14 that morning wasn’t applicable this afternoon when HE was playing. 👿

  • Comment 12, posted at 06.08.08 10:48:27 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 12) : The IRB should do something… I cant think of any other sport with so many variations.

  • Comment 13, posted at 06.08.08 11:01:18 by blackshark Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 13) :

    it is only during this transition phase though. Once the 3N is over everybody will be playing under the same Laws.

    Bear (or is it bare?) in mind though that the Law differences in the S14 each year are tiny things that the general public don’t EVER pick up on.

    Things like in the S14 as soon as a scrum collpases the ref must blow the whistle for a reset. the S14 had a season maybe more where they where the only ones who were allowed to let play continue if the ball was under the 8th mans feet rather than having to reset the scrum as per the law. it was something that would allow play to continue in situations where the was no reason to reset the scrum.

  • Comment 14, posted at 06.08.08 11:10:07 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 4) :

    IRI is what I call them….

  • Comment 15, posted at 06.08.08 11:50:36 by Hmmm Reply

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