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Griquas “steal” WP 10, Cheetahs borrow a Leopard

Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :Cheetahs, Currie Cup, In the news, Other SA Teams on 7 Aug 2008 at 08:29

Injury ravaged Griquas have scored a major coup by signing Western Province and Stormers flyhalf Naas Olivier on a two-year contract.

Rugby 365 reports that Olivier, who also spent four months with French club Auch before returning to WP in June, will make his debut for Griquas in their Currie Cup match against the Cheetahs in Bloemfontein on Friday.

It is astonishing that Province, who will field untested utility back Joe Pietersen in the No.10 jersey against the Sharks on Friday, has allowed three specialist flyhalves go to other provinces this season.

While they will be celebrating the arrival of the talented and experienced Olivier in Kimberley, more questions will be raised in Cape Town about team selections.

With Springbok Peter Grant out for six weeks, following shoulder surgery, and Willem De Waal ruled out for the rest of the season with a hip joint injury, WP now suddenly face a flyhalf crisis.

Apart from releasing Olivier, who was contracted to WP till the end of the year, to Griquas, the coaching brainstrust in Cape Town have loaned Isma-eel Dollie to Boland and Ricardo Croy to the South Western Districts Eagles.

As a result they were forced to choose between two rookie specialist flyhalves – Under-21 players Coenie van Wyk and Matthew Rosslee – and the more experienced utility, Pietersen, in the No.10 jersey. They opted for Pietersen, who plays fullback or wing and will wear the No.10 jersey for the first time at Currie Cup level. Rosslee is on the bench.

But in Kimberley they will cheer the ‘wisdom’ of the Cape Town coaches to let a talent like Olivier go.

Bedevilled by injury and illness, Griquas coach Dawie Theron moved fast to plug all the gaps this week as he faces neighbours Cheetahs in a Central Unions derby in Bloemfontein.

Theron can probably pick a side from the players sidelined this week – with players such as forwards Albertus Buckle and Hans van Dyk, flyhalf Tobie Botes (all flu), flanks Gareth Krause and Stephan Gerber (hand injuries), scrumhalf Sarel Pretorius (chest injury) all on the injury list.

* Meanwhile the Cheetahs have also dipped into the ‘loan’ market to cover their injury crisis in the front row.

Coach Naka Drotské has called up 24-year-old Leopards hooker Riaan Kruger as back-up to Richardt Strauss.

The Cheetahs have lost the services of frontline hookers like Adriaan Strauss (Springboks), Jaco du Toit (moved to Beziers in France), Hercu Liebenberg (Aurillac in France) and PW van Vuuren (hamstring injury.

The Cheetahs have made just one change to the staring XV that beat Boland last week, with regular captain Hendro Scholtz back from his neck injury. Scholtz will partner Kabamba Floors at flank, with Duane Vermeulen at No.8

Schalk van der Merwe, a star at No.8 this season, drops down to the bench.


Griquas: 15 Bjorn Basson, 14 Gavin Passens, 13 Lafras Uys, 12 Riaan Viljoen, 11 MJ Mentz, 10 Naas Olivier, 9 Sarel Pretorius, 8 Heinrich Stride, 7 Wayne van Heerden, 6 Gareth Krause (captain), 5 Cilliers Coetzer, 4 Brendon Snyman, 3 Ruaan du Preez, 2 Hans van Dyk, 1 Albertus Buckle.
Replacements: 16 James van der Walt, 17 Bees Roux, 18 Jacques Lombaard, 19 Rohan Kitshoff, 20 Dougie Helmuth, 21 Egon Seconds, 22 Conrad Barnard.

Free State Cheetahs: 15 Bevin Fortuin, 14 Eddie Fredericks, 13 Robert Ebersohn, 12 Meyer Bosman, 11 Fabian Juries, 10 Chris Rossouw, 9 Tewis de Bruyn, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Kabamba Floors, 6 Hendro Scholtz (captain), 5 Barend Pieterse, 4 David de Villiers, 3 Kobus Calldo, 2 Richard Strauss, 1 Wian du Preez.
Replacements: 16 Riaan Kruger, 17 Phillip Lemmer, 18 Flip van der Merwe, 19 Schalk van der Merwe, 20 Neil Powell, 21 JW Jonker, 22 Wilton Pietersen.


  • So THIS explains why Alister Coetzee was so vague on Naas Olivier earlier in the week.

    The Guy was busy training with Griquas.

    Look Olivier may not be the Bok Flyhalf all of CT made him out to be 2 years ago, but he is still streaks better than Pietersen.

  • Comment 1, posted at 07.08.08 08:31:36 by KSA Shark © Reply
    KSA Shark ©
  • Olivier v Klein Tjips should actually be a good tussle to watch.

  • Comment 2, posted at 07.08.08 08:33:23 by KSA Shark © Reply
    KSA Shark ©
  • His agent was offering him to us as well.

  • Comment 3, posted at 07.08.08 08:52:42 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply
    walter van Lions World
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 2) : I saw Naas play a game or two when he just started playing for Province and thought there was talent. Then when I saw the flack he took from this site, I decided to reserve judgement.

    @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 3) : Walter, surely you guys must have thought long and hard about that. After all, you cannot be too choosy, now can you?? 😀

  • Comment 4, posted at 07.08.08 08:56:09 by Silver Fox Reply
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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 3) :

    Rose must be happy that he has found such timely form then.

  • Comment 5, posted at 07.08.08 09:00:45 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 4) :

    Before he went to WP (when he was still with the Leopards) I thought he had enough talent to join us. He hasn’t really played much top level rugby at WP the past 2 seasons.

  • Comment 6, posted at 07.08.08 09:05:16 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply
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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 6) : Yes, I agree, although why he was suddenly “out” of it after they made a fuss about him, I do not know. 😕

  • Comment 7, posted at 07.08.08 09:09:25 by Silver Fox Reply
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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 7) :

    This is not a dig, but I believe it is the propensity that the cape media has to write anyone that plays in CT up as the next big thing. SA Rugby even ran him on the cover as the next Bok Flyhalf.

    Not only does it put pressure on the player but it puts expectation at our door and when that deliveryt doesn’t arrive we are a little harsh in our criticism.

  • Comment 8, posted at 07.08.08 09:19:18 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 8) : If one take the media for what they are nowadays, they can actually be a laugh. Talk about laugh, I read some of the comments on Keo last night. After seriously repressing the urge to ” shout ” idiot at most every poster, I sat back and had a good laugh. Sharksworld does beat them by miles. 😎

  • Comment 9, posted at 07.08.08 09:33:24 by Silver Fox Reply
    Silver Fox
  • A major coup? 😆

  • Comment 10, posted at 07.08.08 09:52:51 by McLovin Reply
  • @Silver Fox (Comment 9) : glad you feel that way. Tell ALL your friends 😉

  • Comment 11, posted at 07.08.08 09:54:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) :

    Rob, I must agree, since you guys invited me to pop in here, I hardly ever go there anymore.

  • Comment 12, posted at 07.08.08 09:57:42 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

    walter van Lions World
  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 12) : Thanks. I like to think we cater to a more discerning audience

  • Comment 13, posted at 07.08.08 10:04:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • Good day gents.

    Did anyone watch the Boland vs Cheetahs game???

    I believe Dollie had a very good game… Can anyone confirm this???

  • Comment 14, posted at 07.08.08 10:10:36 by wpw Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 13) : Where does “Hmmm” fit in Rob? 😈

  • Comment 15, posted at 07.08.08 10:11:51 by hellbent Reply

  • @wpw (Comment 14) :

    match wasn’t televised. 🙁

  • Comment 16, posted at 07.08.08 10:13:21 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 14) :

    It wasn’t televised as far as I know?

  • Comment 17, posted at 07.08.08 10:13:44 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

    walter van Lions World
  • Oh, OK.

    I read a match report which said he had a very good game.

  • Comment 18, posted at 07.08.08 10:18:11 by wpw Reply
  • Allistair Coetzee the WP rugby brain trust…more of a “brain fart” 🙄

  • Comment 19, posted at 07.08.08 10:24:58 by Charlie Reply

  • @Silver Fox (Comment 9) : Yep I go read to have a good laugh, like last week Friday, a guy called Hoops told the Lion supporters in all seriousness that Harris was a better scrummager than Heinke and he was going to teach Heinke a lesson in scrumming, needless to say he hasn’t been on this entire week 😆

  • Comment 20, posted at 07.08.08 13:18:15 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

    Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette
  • Op die Cheetahs!!!!!!

  • Comment 21, posted at 07.08.08 13:32:20 by Die Jood Reply

    Die Jood
  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 20) : THAT was really a bit far fetched. Any prop but Harris!! 😀

    @robdylan (Comment 11) : Hey dude, what I would like to tell you as a friend is that there are one huge $%^$up with the F/L. Now do not get me wrong, I’m not complaining!! Or are you still busy fixing it?? 😎

  • Comment 22, posted at 07.08.08 13:53:13 by Silver Fox Reply

    Silver Fox
  • @Silver Fox (Comment 22) : What do you mean?

  • Comment 23, posted at 07.08.08 14:06:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : Do I get the points for the player that I bring into my team eg. Earl Rose?? If so, I will do MORE trades!!

  • Comment 24, posted at 07.08.08 14:18:15 by Silver Fox Reply

    Silver Fox
  • @Silver Fox (Comment 24) : Definitely not. Ok, I guess I screwed it up, didn’t I? Do you have points for Earl for round 7? I’ll fix it tonight

  • Comment 25, posted at 07.08.08 14:25:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 25) : I’ve got points for Earl for every round from 1 -7 😀 😀

  • Comment 26, posted at 07.08.08 14:27:34 by Silver Fox Reply

    Silver Fox
  • @Silver Fox (Comment 26) : Nice work if you can get it 🙂 i’ll fix that later

  • Comment 27, posted at 07.08.08 14:40:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 26) : Better make my trades before Rob gets his act together… 😆

  • Comment 28, posted at 07.08.08 14:41:50 by blackshark Reply

    blackshark - I'm back!
  • @blackshark (Comment 28) : My act is always together 🙂

  • Comment 29, posted at 07.08.08 14:54:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 29) :

    Did you get my changes? ❓

  • Comment 30, posted at 07.08.08 16:12:58 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

    walter van Lions World
  • Rob?

  • Comment 31, posted at 07.08.08 16:43:58 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

    walter van Lions World
  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 31) : Yes. All changes will be correctly applied before we score the next round

  • Comment 32, posted at 07.08.08 16:56:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • thanks, I don’t think theguys I replaced will score any more points this season!

  • Comment 33, posted at 07.08.08 20:41:45 by walter van transvaal.co.za Reply

    walter van Lions World
  • hehehehe

    Don’t you love it when things sound different to the way they were intended?

    From News24

    With Amor…
    Travelling to Canada with hubby Joost was one of the worst trips for Amor Vittone

    I would also hate a trip if it had to be with Joost.

  • Comment 34, posted at 07.08.08 21:18:46 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @walter van transvaal.co.za (Comment 33) : I ended up having no option but to replace de Waal and Liefling. Mentz was also a no-brainer.

    Had to keep JLP… just couldn’t justify a fourth 10-point knock

  • Comment 35, posted at 07.08.08 21:43:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • For a short while I was very well placed! 😛

  • Comment 36, posted at 07.08.08 21:51:18 by Silver Fox Reply

    Silver Fox
  • I observe that cricket was worthy of its own threat today!! 😯

    Buy the way, how are things on this site in the off season? Do not tell me to wait and see.

  • Comment 37, posted at 07.08.08 21:56:00 by Silver Fox Reply

    Silver Fox
  • Anybody have info on Herkie Kruger? I chose him when I still thought he would handle the kicking duties. Do not know if I should take a 10 point knock on him, unless he is out injured for a long time.

  • Comment 38, posted at 07.08.08 22:03:27 by Silver Fox Reply

    Silver Fox
  • @Silver Fox (Comment 38) : I don’t think his injury is serious

  • Comment 39, posted at 07.08.08 22:31:25 by robdylan Reply
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