The Bok team has been announced. The disruption of injuries and suspension push Mujati and Ndungane into the starting line-up in place of CJ and JP respectively, with Rossouw, Pienaar and du Plessis coming onto the bench.
Springboks – 15 Conrad Jantjes, 14 Odwa Ndungane, 13 Adrian Jacobs, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Jongi Nokwe, 10 Butch James, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Juan Smith, 6 Schalk Burger, 5 Victor Matfield (c), 4 Andries Bekker, 3 Brian Mujati, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Adriaan Strauss, 17 Jannie du Plessis, 18 Danie Rossouw, 19 Luke Watson, 20 Ricky Januarie, 21 Ruan Pienaar, 22 Percy Montgomery.
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Where’s Steyn ❓
Neither is Joe
Steyn has a sore nose
And again we have Matfield with the c and two brackets behind his name… in for a penny, in for a pound I suppose.
But I still sigh… ai.
It should be a proper “test” for Mujati. 😐
So no advice heeded then.
You know what the irony is- if you play hig-risk rugby it will come off at some point. It just has to. And it will look spectacular and everybody will praise the coach.
But it’s not an approach that will yield consistent dividends.
I actually feel terrible saying this, but I’m rather taking the family to the beach for the day on Saturday. Not going to watch this one.
@VinChainSaw (Comment 6) :
It will if it is played properly. Within the correct boundaries.
@VinChainSaw (Comment 6) : In my book exciting, running rugby does not necessarily equal high-risk rugby. So it could become consistent if done properly…
@MorneN (Comment 8) : I’ve warned people typing faster than I do… 👿
@Silver Fox (Comment 10) :
Years or practice.
So howcome Ruan is on the bench as flyhalf cover? Does his ultimatum not then extend to the Boks as well?
@MorneN (Comment 11) :
Pissing people off that is, not typing fast… 😉
@Silver Fox (Comment 9) :
Howzit Pup!
@robdylan (Comment 7) :
Ag pleeze Daddy wont you take me to the seaside…. 😉 My husband is going to the game taking clients…I feel SORRY for them… 😈 I only have the kids to look after!
@robdylan (Comment 7) : Seems it’s going to be nice weather for the beach this weekend. 🙂
@MorneN (Comment 13) : He he
@McLovin (Comment 15) : is it really?
:sigh:
Good luck Bokke! I’ll be watching soccer at the stadium but will be with you in spirit.
@robdylan (Comment 17) : 26 degrees on sat. that’s london though. coast might be different.
@McLovin (Comment 19) : well – we’ll go have a look around anyway and see what it’s like. Getting cabin fever here.
I have a 10k in London on Sunday night as well
I was willing to bet my house on us winning on Sat..but now seeing the 2 wings selected I’m doubtful the Boks will take it.Its slightly unfair pushing Nokwe into a tesy match like this esp a rather must win one.Heres hoping he proves me wrong.
@McLovin (Comment 19) : @robdylan (Comment 20) :
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@robdylan (Comment 20) :
Any particular time you aiming for?
Even if we win this one by 60 points it will still be a disastrous Tri nations. We are the World Champs after all and the Aussies and Kiwi’s are supposed to be rebuilding. I mean getting stuffed at home by the Aussies for the first time in 8 years is just one of the big lows.
Remember Carel Du Plessis’s last game was a 60 something thumping of the Oz’s…but the damage was done before that…losing to a distinctly average British Lions!
@CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 21) : He’s getting far more opportunities than Chavanga. Doesn’t seem like we have too many options tho.
Have they sold all the tickets?
@MorneN (Comment 8) : @Silver Fox (Comment 9) :
Dunno, it’s never been done before to any degree of success by any iternational side.
Oz hasnt been able to do it consistently and NZ doesnt do it at all. Their game is built on uncompromising forward play.
The French have never been able to consistently throw together two halves of rugby, let alone two games.
The only other running side is Wales. Enoguh said.
And the best part is that those countries actually have running rugby in their feeder leagues. We dont even have that.
@robdylan (Comment 3) :
As in “His nose is out of joint” or he injured it?
@VinChainSaw (Comment 27) :
It has been done by provincial sides with some success though.
And by junior sides.
I like consistency,BUT how can we still have the same loose trio after the last couple of weeks disaster at the breakdowns. Spies needs to go play some schoolboy rugby again and I think Butch has had more than enough time to prove himself. The Tri nations is lost and old Snor might as well have experimented a bit….and I see trouble with Mujati in the scrumms and Ricky would have been a better call at scrumhalf…..I’m afraid it’s not gonna be pretty…..GO THE BOKS…..we can only hope 😥
@KSA Shark © (Comment 28) : both, I think 😉
@Pokkel (Comment 30) : There is noone else to play at flyalf. Grant and Steyn are injured. Unless we get an outsider, Butch is the only option.
@molly (Comment 25) :
Chavange was given 2 chances and I’d rather give him another than put Nokwe there.You right though we are short on wings.Nokwe grabbed his chance against the Argies but hey it was a piss poor argies side.
I hope the Boks win. I know Province are gonna get violated by those sexually repressed Bulls. So watching the Boks get a hiding from the dingo’s in the coke tin might send me over the edge.
@molly (Comment 32) : Let me state that I am NOT a Bulls supporter, But Morne Steyn has probably been the best Flyhalf in SA this year,good boot,good defense and distribution and actually a Flyhalf
Great weekend planned: Got the cricket on Friday (at least Graeme is injured), then WP vs Bulls and then SA vs Aus! Can’t wait! 😯 👿
I forgot about the cricket. 😥
@molly (Comment 36) : Worst part is that I decided to stop drinking for a while to give my liver a break(and to see if my bierpens can get a bit smaller)I better not be paying to much attention to sport else all my good work would be in vain
@Pokkel (Comment 35) : Yeah, I agree, he has been good, but he’s still an outsider, he hasn’t been involved at all. I’m not sure he’d be up to scratch in a weeks worth of training with the boks.
@Pokkel (Comment 35) : Pokkel, I agree on Morne Steyn. And with that I’m not saying he is a great prospect by any means, but if given a chance may prove to offer more than Butch does. Now that cannot be too difficult.
Nokwe actually didn’t do too badly last week. It certainly wasn’t as a result of him that we didn’t win.
If Matfield, Bekker, Spies etc spent more time doing their primary jobs in the forwards rather than cluttering up the space in the backs, we would at least be able to retain the ball better and create a platform for the backs!
@molly (Comment 39) : IMO there is nothing to catch up on as there doesn’t seem to be any gameplan anyway 🙄
@Villie (Comment 41) : Yep, running rugby has never meant that your forwards have to do the running. They should link, yes.
Green light for rugby director?
by Stephen Nell | 27 August 2008 (23:10)
Less than 24 hours after Jake White had made himself available as South African director of rugby, the SA Rugby Union confirmed on Wednesday that the position would be discussed on Friday
“It’s on the agenda,” (of a president’s council meeting) Saru president Organ Hoskins said on Wednesday. “But is does not mean we will make anyone an offer.
White’s agent contacted Hoskins three weeks ago to offer the former Springbok coach’s services as director of rugby.
I told him it was not possible at the time because there was no certainty that there would be such a position,” Hoskins said.
Even if the Saru officials decide to create such a position it would require a mind shift to welcome White back into the ranks.
White and Saru’s president’s council were often at loggerheads during his term as national coach.
Former Western Province coach Alan Zondagh has also thrown his name into the hat.
Zondagh, who runs the rugby academy near Riebeek West, assisted White briefly with the Springboks’ attacking game during 2006.
WILLING TO WORK HARD
The merits of a position for a director of rugby would depend on the job description, Zondagh said on Wednesday
“If it’s someone who is willing to work hard it will be meaningful. We need someone who can equip elite players and coaches with knowledge.
“If a coach is struggling with defence, for example, who does he call to help him?
Zondagh feels there is far too much panicking over South Africa’s Tri-Nations performances this year. The source of the problems should not be sought with Springbok coach Peter de Villiers, he said.
“The problem in South Africa is the way we play in contact situations. That’s not Peter’s problem. Our ball carriers never dominate the contact situation.
“Take a look at Bismark du Plessis. He is a big guy but he will lose the ball eight out of ten times in contact
“If you could solve that problem you won’t have to send five guys to the contact point,” Zondagh said.
“We’re making a mountain out of a molehill. These are small problems that can be easily solved.
“Peter is correct in saying we should not be afraid to play with the ball. The two tries the Springboks scored against the Wallabies last week came easily when the ball was moved wide at the right time.
“Peter wants the Springboks to become a dangerous team. They’ll get better if they continue to play with the ball.”
Very quiet all of a sudden 🙄
@Charlie (Comment 44) : Ja if there is somebody to support poor old ADI when he makes one of his fantastic breaks
@Charlie (Comment 44) : Also difficult not to lose the ball in the contact situation if 4 Wallabies are grabbing at the ball and the rest of the Boks are in the backline playing wing. Zondagh …dumbass 😈
I have never seen a gameplan. What does it look like? Is it an actual document? Serious question. Lots of mention regarding the Boks’ gameplan made me wonder.
Geez , I’m like a blog killer. I barely ever get a chance to chat and then as soon as I arrive everybody’s gone. 🙄
@Pokkel (Comment 46) : “poor old ADI” ❓
@Charlie (Comment 50) : and poor old Bissie
@Pokkel (Comment 49) : It happens on occasions. 😀 But do not let that deter you, keep on talking like Hmmm used to do.
The way the Boks suppose to play is that the forwards need to move the extra yards, but it’s still seem that they struggle to understand the concept… 🙄
Laurie Mains says, “A captain is only ever an extension of authority and an extension of the game plan the coach sets. If there are no tactics and no game plan, then he has nothing to go back to and therefore he doesn’t have a basis to his leadership… in order for a captain to be effective, the team must have clearly defined patterns and structures to its game. A captain can’t change that if it isn’t firmly ingrained in the team.”
@Silver Fox (Comment 52) : I thought it was my breath that was chasing everybody away?
@Charlie (Comment 53) : Poor old Bissie and poor old Adi making all the hard yards, just to be left alone by the bok forwards to fight their own fight. On Saturday I stopped watching when Adi did a fantastic break, was tackled 5 m short and there wasn’t a Bok in sight. Even the Aussie prop were there fighting for the ball.
@Pokkel (Comment 55) : may just be your freakishly long neck
@Pokkel (Comment 56) : I still coant forgive Bismarck for running with the ball when he had Habana on his outside, ok this was a few weeks ago but he is starting to hold on top the ball alot these days.
@PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) (Comment 57) : 😆
@PJLD(RIP Bernie Mac) (Comment 58) : He still needs somebody within 5 m to pass too. Spies is usually 50m behind him playing fullback. But I agree, I was also horrified in that game that he didn’t pass. He is still our only ‘loosie’ fighting for the ball
@Silver Fox (Comment 52) : Good afternoon Sir 😛
Really very good to read Mujati starting at TH.
Go Brian!!!
@Die Jood (Comment 61) : Hey there!! 🙂
Enjoyed the Cheetahs game?
@Die Jood (Comment 62) : Hmmmm? Is that you? 🙂 😯
@robdylan (Comment 64) : Impossible dude, Hmmm would kill himself if he had to restrain himself this way.
@Silver Fox (Comment 65) : true. Hmmm could never post only 2 comments in a row… more like 200
Ha Ha, imagine Hmmmm ever passing the following words over his lips “Really very good to read Mujati starting at TH.
Go Brian!!!”. Not even in jest would it be possible.
@Salmonoid (Comment 67) : I wonder about Jood… I really do
@Silver Fox (Comment 63) : Hi Silver Fox. Cheetahs won for they were the better team on the day. Pity Alberts got so badly injured…
@robdylan (Comment 66) :
Robd what 10k are you running and what time ar you looking at..?
@CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 70) : nike human race. I’m hoping for under 70 min. I’m still very slow!
@robdylan (Comment 71) :
nice 7min a k not bad bro.
@CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 72) : I just want to finish! It’s a very easy pace, but I’m new to the whole thing. Have another one in October where I’ll aim to run it in under an hour
@robdylan (Comment 73) :
Its a start and with a bit of training it gets easier , my first 10 k as an ‘adult’ took me hour and 3 min.Got it down to 43min now.
@CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 74) : That’s good work. I’d be very happy with that!
@robdylan (Comment 75) :
You planning on moving on to half marathons after?
@CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 76) : probably… but that would only be next year
I think its going to be a very good game
Since we actually dont have anything more to loose but everything to win!
@robdylan (Comment 71) :
I did my first 10k’s at the age of 8…under 90 minutes…
@I’ce (Rebel With a Cause) (Comment 79) : you a runner, Ice?
@robdylan (Comment 80) :
I use to be…did 10 ks for breakfast everymorning of my schoollife…cross country for Griquas..
Although I think she was somewhat older – ran against the like of Zola..
Other than that – I did 300m hurdles, 400m, 800m, 1500m , javelin – ja!! and was in the 4 X 100m relay team..
@I’ce (Rebel With a Cause) (Comment 81) : you have the ideal build, though… lucky thing.
I’m actually far too heavy to be a good runner, but I try anyway
@robdylan (Comment 82) :
You have more guts than brains!! Just kidding!! I do fun things now for excercise… 😉 I have done my bit of k’s…
@Silver Fox (Comment 52) :
What did Hmmm used to talk like!??! 👿
I have a few comments on the team:
Drop Matfield and play Danie (Jean to captain)
Drop Juan and play Schalk at 7….
Bring either Brussou or Groblaar in (play 6 and 7 and not open and blind)…
Start Ricky…
Drop James and play anyone….
Drop Jantjies and play Percy and have Steyn cover fullback (that is if he is not injured as I don’t see him on the team sheet)
Drop Mujati and start with Carstens….
Joe to play off the bench in Watsons place…
@Hmmm (Comment 84) :
Like that 😆
hey look everyone – it’s a Hmmmm comment-storm 😉
@KSA Shark © (Comment 92) :
LIke….?
Ag that is not even 4 minutes of commenting…
Jinne…LoL
Same coach
same game plan
same captain
same team
I’m already disappointed.
They could have changed at least 1 of those parameters to give the fans just a little bit of hope.
@Hmmm (Comment 84) : Verbal diarrhea, as proven. Monologue-like. 🙄 😆
But you are missed when absent for long periods. We feel downright neglected.
@Hmmm (Comment 95) : JINNE!!! You tend to pick up bad habits when Cyber travelling. 😯 😈