Bulls, Lions, Valke all named

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Bulls, Currie Cup, Lions, Original Content, Other SA Teams on 3 Sep 2008 at 14:31
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Three team announcements in one handy thread!

First up the Bulls. Frans Ludeke has named all of his returning Boks, including Bryan Habana, in a formidable looking starting line-up. Pedrie Wannenberg and Wayne Julies have both been dumped from the squad, which sees Pierre Spies at eighthman in a pacy loose trio. Marius Delport is back at outside centre, while Guthro Steenkamp is one of three front-rankers on the bench.

Bulls to face the Sharks:

15 Tiger Mangweni; 14 Akona Ndungane, 13 Marius Delport, 12 Wynand Olivier, 11 Bryan Habana; 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Fourie du Preez; 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Wikus van Heerden, 6 Deon Stegmann, 5 Victor Matfield (captain), 4 Danie Rossouw, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Derick Kuün, 1 Jaco Engels.
Reserves: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 Rayno Gerber, 18 Juandré Kruger, 19 Gurthrö Steenkamp, 20 Heini Adams, 21 Burton Francis, 22 Dewald Potgieter.

Lions coach Eugene Eloff has had to do some re-shuffling in his team, as Willem Alberts is out injured and Janno Vermaak suspended. Ernst Joubert comes in at 8, but Baywatch Grobbelaar retains the captaincy. Chris Jonck is at scrumhalf and former Free State and Bulls winger Trompie Nontshinga gets a start on the left wing.

In a bizarre move, there is no scrumhalf cover on the bench.

Lions to face the Valke:

15. Jaco van Schalkwyk, 14. Michael Killian, 13. Jaco Pretorius, 12. Doppies la Grange, 11. Trompie Nontshinga, 10. Earl Rose, 9. Chris Jonck, 8. Ernst Joubert, 7. Franco van der Merwe, 6. Cobus Grobbelaar (Capt), 5. Gerhard Mostert, 4. Anton van Zyl, 3. Lawrence Sephaka, 2. Willie Wepener, 1. Heinke van der Merwe
Replacements: 16. Ethienne Reynecke, 17. Ross Geldenhuys, 18. Derick Minnie, 19. Justin Wheeler, 20. Walter Venter, 21. Louis Strydom, 22. Rayno Benjamin

The Valke have also named their team, with coach Rudy Joubert forced to reshuffle his forward pack thanks to a bout of flu. Former Sharks Wouter Moore and Jody Jenneker both came down with the sniffles this week and as a result, neither player will start. New Sharks signing Len Olivier continues at flyhalf, while Johan “Spear Tackle” Swartz is back from his three-week suspension.

Valke vs. Lions:

15 Johan Jackson; 14 Dewald Pretorius, 13 Ernie Kruger, 12 Hanno Coetzee (capt), 11 Johan Swartz; 10 Len Olivier, 9 Poerie van Rooyen; 8 Sean Plaatjies, 7 Johan de Bruin, 6 Warren Perkins, 5 Marius Coetzer, 4 Ruhan van Jaarsveld, 3 Nico Pretorius, 2 Ryno Barnes, 1 Gavin Whittingham.
Reserves: 16 Jody Jeneker, 17 Frik Venter, 18 Wouter Moore, 19 Reg Muller/Emile Verster, 20 Gerrie Odendaal, 21 Showan Smith, 22 Jeff Perkins.


  • shit, but that’s a strong Bulls outfit.

    Only real weakness I see is at outside centre. Oh, and hooker.

  • Comment 1, posted at 03.09.08 14:37:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • WeePee:
    WP team

    15. Conrad Jantjes
    14. Tonderai Chavhanga
    13. Gcobani Bobo
    12. Jean De Villiers (C)
    11. Sireli Naqelevuki
    10. Peter Grant
    9. Ricky Januarie
    8. Luke Watson
    7. Francois Louw
    6 Schalk Burger
    5. Andries Bekker
    4. Adriaan Fondse
    3. Brian Mujati
    2. Schalk Brits
    1. Wicus Blaauw

    16. Deon Fourie
    17. JC Kritzinger
    18. AJ Venter
    19. Nick Koster
    20. Bolla Conradie
    21. Joe Pietersen
    22. Wylie Human

  • Comment 2, posted at 03.09.08 14:46:00 by PaarlBok Reply

  • @PaarlBok (Comment 2) : thanks – I’ll update the thread

  • Comment 3, posted at 03.09.08 15:01:38 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 1) : Yes it is a strong team…it won’t be easy…but we’ll take these guys. Go SHARKS!!!

    @PaarlBok (Comment 2) : Ok…looks like the Sharks are the only ones talking about resting the Boks… Bring on ADI and BEAST… 😡

  • Comment 4, posted at 03.09.08 15:05:04 by blackshark Reply

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  • Marius Delport? Kuun?

    Sharks will walk this one.

  • Comment 5, posted at 03.09.08 15:07:53 by MorneN Reply
  • @MorneN (Comment 5) : let’s just hope Big Skip brings his A game

  • Comment 6, posted at 03.09.08 15:09:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • Why was Julies dropped? Was he bad? I don’t rate Delport as a center, let alone a player, at all.

  • Comment 7, posted at 03.09.08 15:14:48 by molly Reply
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  • Their bench doesn’t look so hot though… 😐

  • Comment 8, posted at 03.09.08 15:16:04 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 8) : you’re right… I wonder why they have so many props?

  • Comment 9, posted at 03.09.08 15:17:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 7) : he didn’t really set anything alight…

  • Comment 10, posted at 03.09.08 15:17:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 7) :

    Like someone said on Keo, he is like Jan Harm van Wyk without the pace…

    Kak funny.

  • Comment 11, posted at 03.09.08 15:27:30 by MorneN Reply
  • @MorneN (Comment 11) : Or like Jorrie Muller without the…

    oh, nevermind 😳

  • Comment 12, posted at 03.09.08 15:33:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @blackshark (Comment 4) :
    Cant think my WeePee can rest their Bokke now. Its a make or break one. 🙁

  • Comment 13, posted at 03.09.08 15:35:00 by PaarlBok Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 1) : 12 and 13 look bad

  • Comment 14, posted at 03.09.08 15:36:01 by Sauce Reply
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  • @PaarlBok (Comment 2) : Nice to see Grant back !

  • Comment 15, posted at 03.09.08 15:36:34 by Sauce Reply
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  • @Sauce (Comment 14) : Wynie has actually been playing some decent rugger of late.

    I still reckon Brad and Frans will ahve the measure of them, though.

    Let’s hope Magic Fred turns up, not Awful Fred

  • Comment 16, posted at 03.09.08 16:06:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • Doppies will cover scrumhalf….

  • Comment 17, posted at 03.09.08 16:52:22 by Hmmm Reply

  • Where is Ludik?

  • Comment 18, posted at 03.09.08 16:52:38 by Hmmm Reply

  • Is Joe not available for the LIONS….has he already been released?
    Would not have finished thie season?

  • Comment 19, posted at 03.09.08 16:53:26 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 18) : injured

    @Hmmm (Comment 19) : he is in France, dude… you should follow the news 😉

  • Comment 20, posted at 03.09.08 16:55:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • Crap…the Bulls team look even better than the one that has been on form the last couple of weeks…

  • Comment 21, posted at 03.09.08 16:57:30 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 21) : wait till you see the Sharks team 😉

  • Comment 22, posted at 03.09.08 16:59:26 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) :

    Yeh I knew he was leaving the LIONS…but I thought he’d at least finish this season at the LIONS…

    Now we lost Willem and Joe…
    And Joubert is not the 8th-man they are and he has also not had any game time for about 7 months…

    We are fortunate that he would be playing 3 games against the bottom 3 sides which might just be enough to get him into form…

    Would have loved if Joubert could come on at 7 to strengthen an already strong loose trio with Joe at 8!??!

  • Comment 23, posted at 03.09.08 17:00:29 by Hmmm Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 22) :

    It will be very similar to the team that played in the S14…and if they play anything like they did back then they won’t be scoring 5 try bonus points any time soon…

    I’d play the current team and just strengthen the side with a few Bokke…e.g. Odwa/Ruan/Beast/Adi maybe Steyn (def no JPP)

  • Comment 24, posted at 03.09.08 17:03:18 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 23) : or with Alberts at 8. That oke is a freak, man! If you don’t want him, please send him our way

  • Comment 25, posted at 03.09.08 17:03:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 24) : JP is injured anyway.

    Looks like it will just be Jannie, Ruan, Frans and Odwa coming in this week. Bismarck on the bench

  • Comment 26, posted at 03.09.08 17:04:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 25) : No he is injured that is why I did not include him…

    If he was not injured I’d go for Grobler/Joe/Alberts with Joubert off the bench….

  • Comment 27, posted at 03.09.08 17:10:38 by Hmmm Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 26) :


    Oh how could I forget Bismark…

    That is a good choice…Frans will have to up his game though…the backs you been playing have been doing their business…
    Would be great if you can find space for Jordaan in the side still…

  • Comment 28, posted at 03.09.08 17:12:21 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 27) :

    But now we have neither so I guess I should stop wishing for things that are not going to happen….LoL

  • Comment 29, posted at 03.09.08 17:13:11 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 28) : Jordaan AND Swannie

  • Comment 30, posted at 03.09.08 17:16:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 30) :

    Oh yes def Swannie…he has really injected some must need go forward in the Sharks midfield…

  • Comment 31, posted at 03.09.08 17:17:45 by Hmmm Reply

  • Ok gotta run…


  • Comment 32, posted at 03.09.08 17:18:25 by Hmmm Reply

  • I swear Hmmm just posts comment after comment so that he can look at his avatar more times. 🙄 😛

  • Comment 33, posted at 03.09.08 17:23:10 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Doppies and Walter Venter has played number 9 in the past (not at CC level though) so the 2 of them is our scrumhalf cover

  • Comment 34, posted at 04.09.08 09:20:53 by walter van Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 33) : Then you admit it is worth looking at? :mrgreen:

    @walter van (Comment 34) : Hey Walter!! The Lions are making a bigger mistake here than what the Sharks did with Ruan and Frans. They will just confuse those guys bigtime. If that is possible. 😈

  • Comment 35, posted at 04.09.08 09:30:52 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 35) :

    We don’t really have an option, we don’t have a 3rd scrummie at the Lions at the moment…a few years back we had 9, now we have 2.

  • Comment 36, posted at 04.09.08 09:43:59 by walter van Reply

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  • @walter van (Comment 36) : Just teach that Vermaak to behave. I like his abilities, though not his inclination to play dirty. Sort of like our own Kockott. They both are very in your face type of players, but needs to keep their discipline.

  • Comment 37, posted at 04.09.08 09:49:32 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 37) :

    I don’t think Vermaak is dirty, I’m sure this was his first yellow card and he has been with us 3 or 4 seasons. Loffie’s excuse was that the Cheetahs punched Vermaak at the preceding ruck and he lost his cool and retaliated, but that is still stupid.

  • Comment 38, posted at 04.09.08 09:53:21 by walter van Reply

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  • @walter van (Comment 38) : he should have been red carded, according to the rules (which the refs don’t seem to apply consistently)

  • Comment 39, posted at 04.09.08 09:55:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 39) :

    Agreed. He was lucky.

  • Comment 40, posted at 04.09.08 10:04:57 by walter van Reply

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  • @walter van (Comment 40) : still think his action cost you that game, though

  • Comment 41, posted at 04.09.08 10:12:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • howzit everyone….back from the Land of the Low Grey Cloud :mrgreen:

  • Comment 42, posted at 04.09.08 20:16:10 by klempie Reply

  • @klempie (Comment 42) :

    Hey Klempie.

    Excuse my ignorance. Low Grey Cloud ❓

  • Comment 43, posted at 04.09.08 20:20:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 43) : He’s being disparaging about my home. I think I’ll ban him… 🙂

  • Comment 44, posted at 04.09.08 20:28:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • Low Grey cloud and high mud level.

  • Comment 45, posted at 04.09.08 20:41:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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