Who has the better pack?

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Bulls, Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 17 Oct 2008 at 08:01
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They say comparisons are odious, but let’s try and make some between the two packs of forwards that are likely to line up in next weekend’s Currie Cup final.

We’ll look at the likely competitors and assign a split of points out of 10. Then, we’ll look at the totals – just for a bit of fun.

1) Mtawarira v Steenkamp. Both are Boks, both are fiery in the loose and have a high workrate. Steenkamp has better ball skills, but Beast is a better scrummager. Going to score this one as 5-5.

2) du Plessis v Kuün. Bismarck is superior in every aspect, bar lineout throwing, where the Bulls man is far more consistent. 6-4 to the Sharks

3) du Plessis v Gerber. Jannie is a Bok prop with a World Cup winner’s medal. Gerber has a nice beard, but doesn’t seem to offer much more. 7-3 to the Sharks.

4) Sykes v Rossouw. Pakslae has all the experience here and tops Sykes in most stats, although the Sharks man has far better hands and is slightly quicker. 6-4 to the Bulls.

5) Muller v Matfield. Completely different players. What Muller brings in terms of workrate at the breakdown, Matfield counters through superb ball skills and lineout work. I’m scoring this one as 5.5-4.5 in favour of the Bulls man.

6) Botes v Stegmann. JB has been around a few seasons longer and does far more with ball in hand, although the young Bull is definitely one to watch for the future and is probably a better player on the ground. 5-5

7) Deysel v van Heerden. Both players who have superb scavenging skills, despite playing on the blindside. Deysel is in far better form at the moment, although van Heerden has experience on his side. 6-4 to the Bulls.

8) Kankowski v Spies. No contest, in terms of skill and form. 6-4 to the Sharks

16) Smit v Rallepelle. The old master against his young apprentice. No contest here, whatsoever. 7-3 to the Sharks.

17) Carstens v Kruger. Again, a seasoned Bok against a rookie. Kruger might be a reasonable scrummager, but Carstens’s work in the loose and destructive scrummaging on either side gives this one to the Sharks, 7-3.

18) van den Berg v Kruger. Albert is wily and has all the experience and all the skills you’d want. Kruger offers a completely different dimension, though and would undoubtedly be more useful in a tight game. 6-4 Sharks.

19) Daniel v Potgieter. Both exciting players who add a dynamic aspect coming on. Daniel is faster, but Potgieter is bigger and also has all the skills. Both have been known to lose their cool and cost their teams points. Going to score this one as even, 5-5.

So, what does that tell us? Sharks get 66.5 and the Bulls 54.5, confirming what we all already know. The Sharks’ pack, man for man and over 80 minutes (taking the awesome bench into account) is just that 10% better than the one the Bulls have.

Let’s hope this results in a resounding win for the men in black and white.


  • OK guys – have fun with this today and please be sure to attack my blatant one-eyedness 🙂

    I’ll be stuck in meetings again all day – but will hope to catch up with you all later.

  • Comment 1, posted at 17.10.08 08:04:58 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • sharks bench is a trip.

  • Comment 2, posted at 17.10.08 08:13:07 by PJLD Reply
  • @PJLD (Comment 2) : Hopefully not a bad one 🙂

  • Comment 3, posted at 17.10.08 08:15:50 by robdylan (Go Sharks!) Reply
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  • As it is your wont to rate the players, it is my wont to rate your ratings! 😉

    Beast/Gurthro – Gurthro has ball skills???????
    Bissie/Kuun – Did you watch Kuun miss his jumpers with regularity against the Cheetahs???????

    That’s it, all the rest is dead on! 😆

  • Comment 4, posted at 17.10.08 09:10:38 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Tell you what… I didn’t rate the ANZ cup 1/4’s… but the semi’s are definitely a step ahead of our CC… some awesome stuff currently…

  • Comment 5, posted at 17.10.08 10:08:49 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 5) :


  • Comment 6, posted at 17.10.08 10:17:52 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 6) :

    edit (a step closer to our CC)

  • Comment 7, posted at 17.10.08 10:18:25 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • Without the crowds…

  • Comment 8, posted at 17.10.08 10:19:05 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • The winger signed by the Lions is playing… not too shabby…

  • Comment 9, posted at 17.10.08 10:20:21 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • Wellington into the finals…

    I just have to add… for all those (including myself) that take the piss out of Matfield’s captains interviews for the Bok’s… please watch Rodders or Weepu’s attempts (and English is their first language)… doff!

  • Comment 10, posted at 17.10.08 10:32:16 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • @robdylan (Go Sharks!) (article) :Gerber has a beard he he . He needs a lot more than that.

  • Comment 11, posted at 17.10.08 10:33:12 by dragonshark Reply

  • My biased opinion- Keegs and JB deserve at least a 5.5 …otherwise I agree…

  • Comment 12, posted at 17.10.08 12:26:32 by just blackshark Reply

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  • One big factor missing though, in rugby the team performance is greater than the sum of the individual capabilities and that is what will count in the final.

  • Comment 13, posted at 17.10.08 13:37:58 by Ollie Reply

  • Just got a call from Mrs Rob Otto Sharko… she reckons he’s at least worth a 1.5 inch… not quite sure what that means but I have to share????

  • Comment 14, posted at 17.10.08 14:39:11 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 10) : Matfield is a piss poor captain

  • Comment 15, posted at 17.10.08 15:26:13 by Sauce Reply
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  • #8 – You being kind to Spies…can you say hyped beyond his means

  • Comment 16, posted at 17.10.08 15:29:24 by Sauce Reply
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