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Preview: Scotland v Springboks

Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Springboks on 14 Nov 2008 at 09:57

Scotland have lost more Tests than they have won and a lot more than they have won against South Africa. In 19 Tests they have lost 15 and won four.

Paul Dobson writes for Rugby 365 that the Scots would like to change this at Murrayfield on Saturday and their talk has been pretty big.

The big talk is surprising as they were well and truly beaten just last weekend by a weakened New Zealand side – weakened but, of course, not weak.

But South Africa have paid the Scots the compliment of putting their best side forward – and then suffered a major blow when Fourie du Preez, a world star, had to withdraw through a practice-field injury. His calm, skill and work rate are of enormous value to his side.

Du Preez apart, South Africa will put onto the field the same team that beat Wales, not convincingly but still two tries to nil.

Like Wales against the Springboks, Scotland did not score a try against New Zealand. Like Wales (against the Boks) they had chances to score tries but like Wales there was no effort that convinced that a try was on. They had five five-metre scrums and did not score a try. The All Blacks scored four tries and looked capable of more.

Look down the Scottish side, which has just one enforced change in a swap of Lamont brothers, and you wonder where they are going to score a try, if the Welsh could not and the Welsh have greater speed and verve and were playing in perfect conditions.

How could Scotland score a try? They could score one off errors, as the Welsh nearly did. They have in Chris Paterson and Rory Lamont, and in lively scrumhalf Mike Blair, three zestful players who could make the most of opposition errors. They could also bash more effectively than they did against New Zealand.

Tries do not look like their best way of scoring, but penalties do. The Scots have a brilliant goal-kicker in Chris Paterson and if the Springboks are as prodigal as they were against Wales when they gave away 15 penalties (and seven free kicks) Paterson may well get several chances to score. Nine of those penalties came in the second half.

The Springboks on the other hand can score tries. They have two centres and two wings who can score tries. They have halfbacks who can score tries. They have loose forwards who can score tries. The Springboks will score tries.

The Scots will be determined in the scrums but their front row does not look capable of doing what the Welsh front row could not do – budge the Springboks, but if the Springboks have to put in an extra effort to shore up their skipper there may be other areas where the Scots could gain capital. The best of those may well be the post-tackle confrontation, an area where the Scots have traditionally been good. The Welsh won the collision and Scotland have the men and technique to do in like manner. This area could be crucial to the outcome of the match,

Penalties and tackle/rucks could feed Scotland best.

The Springboks have three exceptional players to come off their bench – game-breaker Ryan Kankowski, multi-talented Frans Steyn and that racehorse Jaque Fourie who has been straining at the bit for some time now. Their bench looks better than the Scots’.

What part will kicking out of hand play? Against Wales the Springboks kicked 41 times while the Scots kicked only 15 times against New Zealand. That’s a huge difference. The Scots are also more likely to try to counter whereas the Springboks only once ran the ball back at Wales – and then conceded a penalty for holding on. The problem for Scotland is that the Springboks have players who can kick the ball a long way. Counterattacking means a long run. That length will have shortened with the withdrawal of Du Preez.

What part will the weather play? The prophets say it will rain on Thursday, rain on Friday, but there will be no rain on Saturday. That’s what they say – not that Saturday will be a day of Durban summer. It will be cold. Caledonia stern and wild will have its say. And the going will be heavy.

Players to Watch:

For Scotland: Amongst Scotland’s backs durable Chris Paterson, bustling Rory Lamont and lively Mike Blair are likely to catch the eye – especially Blair. And in the pack John Barclay is the best bet to be eye-catching.

For South Africa: The Scots may well learn to love Tendai Mtawarira and growl Beast when he gets the ball. They did so at Millennium Stadium as they do in all South African grounds. After just one season he has become a big personality. You will see Victor Matfield in the line-outs and competitive Schalk Burger all over the place. It could be interesting to see if Pierre Spies and Juan Smith can lift their game to previous heights; otherwise hope that Ryan Kankowski gets on. All of the Springbok backs are worth watching – even Bryan Habana to see if he can come back from a mediocre season and make himself again the darling of the rugby world.

Head to Head: Perky Ricky January against lively Mike Blair, two players eager to seize a half chance. That is an interesting contest where the ball becomes available. Nathan Hines against Bakkies Botha may well be a contest in which neither combatant yields a step.

Recent Results

2007: South Africa won 27-3 at Murrayfield, Edinburgh
2006: South Africa won 29-15 at Boet Erasmus, Port Elizabeth
2006: South Africa won 36-16 at Kings Park Stadium, Durban
2004: South Africa won 45-10 at Murrayfield, Edinburgh
2003: South Africa won 28-19 at Ellis Park, Johannesburg
2003: South Africa won 29-25 at Kings Park Stadium, Durban
2002: Scotland won 21-6 at Murrayfield, Edinburgh

Prediction: All things are always possible but we think the Springboks will be better than they were in Cardiff and win by eight points or so.


Scotland: 15 Chris Paterson, 14 Thom Evans, 13 Ben Cairns, 12 Nick De Luca, 11 Rory Lamont, 10 Phil Godman, 9 Mike Blair (captain), 8 Alistair Hogg, 7 John Barclay, 6 Jason White, 5 Jim Hamilton, 4 Nathan Hines, 3 Euan Murray, 2 Ross Ford, 1 Allan Jacobsen
Replacements: 16 Dougie Hall, 17 Alasdair Dickinson, 18 Matt Mustchin, 19 Scott Gray, 20 Rory Lawson, 21 Dan Parks, 22 Hugo Southwell

South Africa: 15 Conrad Jantjes, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Adi Jacobs, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Ruan Pienaar, 9 Ricky Januarie, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Juan Smith, 6 Schalk Burger, 5 Victor Matfield, 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 John Smit (captain), 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Replacements: 16 Brian Mujati, 17 Gürthro Steenkamp, 18 Andries Bekker, 19 Ryan Kankowski, 20 Danie Rossouw, 21 Frans Steyn, 22 Jaque Fourie.

Date: Saturday, 15 November
Kick-off: 14.30 (14.30 GMT)
Venue: Murrayfield, Edinburgh
Weather: Scattered clouds with a high of 11°C, dropping to 3°C and a westerly of 21 km/h dropping to 14 km/h
Referee: Dave Pearson (England)
Touch judges: Alain Rolland (England), Hugh Watkins (Wales)
TMO: Graham Hughes (England)


  • Looking forward to something in this region:
    2004: South Africa won 45-10 at Murrayfield, Edinburgh

    Bokke 41 – Scots 6.


  • Comment 1, posted at 14.11.08 11:12:13 by blckshrk - BUCANEER Reply
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  • testing

  • Comment 2, posted at 14.11.08 11:17:51 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Is PaarlBok around?

  • Comment 3, posted at 14.11.08 11:19:10 by PJLD Reply
  • @Pokkel (Comment 2) : Are you related to wpw ???

  • Comment 4, posted at 14.11.08 11:54:41 by blckshrk - BUCANEER Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 2) :


  • Comment 5, posted at 14.11.08 11:58:32 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 5) : I can’t get my photo uploaded. I keep getting this error message. Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 10368 bytes) in /home/sharkswo/sharksworld.co.za/wp-content/plugins/user-photo/user-photo.php on line 838

  • Comment 6, posted at 14.11.08 12:00:11 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 6) :

    are you using IE or firefox?

  • Comment 7, posted at 14.11.08 12:03:51 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 7) :

    We had some issues with IE.

  • Comment 8, posted at 14.11.08 12:05:17 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 6) : Resize your pic dude

  • Comment 9, posted at 14.11.08 12:06:39 by PJLD Reply
  • @Pokkel (Comment 6) : I think it means your photo is too big 🙂

  • Comment 10, posted at 14.11.08 12:09:36 by robdylan Reply
  • @PJLD (Comment 9) : The pic is only 719kb
    @KSA Shark © (Comment 8) : I use IE

  • Comment 11, posted at 14.11.08 12:09:53 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 9) : he exhausted the poor server 🙂 It was pretty tired to begin with

  • Comment 12, posted at 14.11.08 12:10:15 by robdylan Reply
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 7) : @KSA Shark © (Comment 8) : @PJLD (Comment 9) : @robdylan (Comment 10) : 👿 👿

  • Comment 13, posted at 14.11.08 12:12:41 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) : 😆 😆

  • Comment 14, posted at 14.11.08 12:12:54 by PJLD Reply
  • Ha ha . Anyway I don’t think anybody on this site would appreciate the pic of my 3.85KG BASS THAT I CAUGHT

  • Comment 15, posted at 14.11.08 12:14:25 by Pokkel Reply
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  • What happened to the ‘blank’ avatars???

  • Comment 16, posted at 14.11.08 12:15:21 by blckshrk - BUCANEER Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 11) : I done changed some of them pesky file permission setting things on that there server thing… you mind trying your dern upload agin?

  • Comment 17, posted at 14.11.08 12:15:45 by robdylan Reply
  • @blckshrk – BUCANEER (Comment 16) : I don’t even qualify for a blank 😯

  • Comment 18, posted at 14.11.08 12:16:14 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @blckshrk – BUCANEER (Comment 16) : tooked em away… did you guys like em?

    Ok, so the way it works now is that it will fall back to your gravatar image (www.gravatar.com) if you don’t have one loaded here.

  • Comment 19, posted at 14.11.08 12:17:02 by robdylan Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 17) : No luck , same error

  • Comment 20, posted at 14.11.08 12:22:20 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 20) : please mail the pic to [email protected] and I’ll load it for you… seems like it’s a problem with your upload speed…

  • Comment 21, posted at 14.11.08 12:25:09 by robdylan Reply
  • Pic through you you thanks

  • Comment 22, posted at 14.11.08 12:52:40 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 22) : it was too big… 🙂

  • Comment 23, posted at 14.11.08 13:01:55 by robdylan Reply
  • @Pokkel (Comment 22) : What type of fish is that? large mouth bass?

  • Comment 24, posted at 14.11.08 13:03:01 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • apparently trhere are 24 professional rugby players in Scotland, according to Gavin Rich in a radio report.

  • Comment 25, posted at 14.11.08 13:04:11 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 25) : 24?

  • Comment 26, posted at 14.11.08 13:06:47 by PJLD Reply
  • @Salmonoid (Comment 25) : 24?

  • Comment 27, posted at 14.11.08 13:08:55 by robdylan Reply
  • @PJLD (Comment 26) : jinx!

  • Comment 28, posted at 14.11.08 13:09:12 by robdylan Reply
  • Acording to something that he read – sounds impossible hence the post. Where is inspector KSA when you need him?

  • Comment 29, posted at 14.11.08 13:21:18 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 28) :
    Talking about jinx – there used to be a poster on Keo and RW (I think) with that name, a very cool dude. I enjoyed his postings.

  • Comment 30, posted at 14.11.08 13:24:43 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 30) : yeah – I know the guy. He’s never really showed much appetite for coming over this side.

  • Comment 31, posted at 14.11.08 13:25:51 by robdylan Reply
  • @Salmonoid (Comment 29) : loafing, no doubt 🙂

  • Comment 32, posted at 14.11.08 13:26:06 by robdylan Reply
  • @Salmonoid (Comment 24) : Yes

  • Comment 33, posted at 14.11.08 13:36:21 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 30) : He is still over yonder keo side, still posting poetry etc.

  • Comment 34, posted at 14.11.08 13:36:28 by PJLD Reply
  • @PJLD (Comment 34) : he sent me a song that he’d recorded… I think I was meant to put it on the site, and I forgot 🙁

  • Comment 35, posted at 14.11.08 13:42:30 by robdylan Reply
  • @Pokkel (Comment 33) :
    In that case I presume that you are the holder of the world record for the biggest large mouth black bass ever caught. What a beaut!!!!

  • Comment 36, posted at 14.11.08 13:47:35 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 36) : I’m not sure if you joking or not, but it was big , but the SA record is 6.3kg’s .

  • Comment 37, posted at 14.11.08 13:50:17 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Was it a Sharks song 😆 – he was a big Province supporter.

  • Comment 38, posted at 14.11.08 13:51:42 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : Sorry , I am technologically gestremd. I see the photo is now on my profile , when will it show here so Salmonoid can see my BIG fish 😯

  • Comment 39, posted at 14.11.08 13:51:52 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 39) :

    Which one is the big mouth? you or the bass? 😛 😛

    that was to easy to let it pass by unmentioned. 😳

  • Comment 40, posted at 14.11.08 14:04:46 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 37) :
    Only half joking – it looks massive. Where did you catch it?

  • Comment 41, posted at 14.11.08 14:06:44 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Rugby 365 prediction: Boks by 8 or so.

    Superrugby prediction: Boks by 20 – 30.

    I think I will go with gavin Rich on this one.

  • Comment 42, posted at 14.11.08 14:07:22 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 39) :

    Press “Ctrl + F5” for your cache to clear and it should show straight away.

  • Comment 43, posted at 14.11.08 14:08:21 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 43) : Thanks

  • Comment 44, posted at 14.11.08 14:14:25 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 41) : In a Farm dam near Newcastle on a cold Saturday morning, and I had a huge babelas. The babelas was soon forgotten though and had to have a couple of beers to celebrate

  • Comment 45, posted at 14.11.08 14:17:00 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 45) : We could only get warm quartz bought a a nearby shebeen. 🙄

  • Comment 46, posted at 14.11.08 14:18:55 by Pokkel Reply
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  • My two passions in life Rugby and fishing. ( Notice that working isn’t mentioned)

  • Comment 47, posted at 14.11.08 14:20:36 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 47) : In that order 😀

  • Comment 48, posted at 14.11.08 14:21:03 by Pokkel Reply
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  • e-(f*&^%$g) filing 👿

  • Comment 49, posted at 14.11.08 14:24:21 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 47) : No wonder you support The Sharks…

  • Comment 50, posted at 14.11.08 14:25:29 by blckshrk - BUCANEER Reply
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  • Pokkel and Hmmm the same person? 😯

  • Comment 51, posted at 14.11.08 14:37:58 by PJLD Reply
  • @PJLD (Comment 51) : Jy het op die gatkant van die storie afgekom

  • Comment 52, posted at 14.11.08 14:40:57 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @PJLD (Comment 51) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 53, posted at 14.11.08 14:42:54 by wpw Reply
  • @PJLD (Comment 51) : It must be that alter ego I didn’t know about, Hmmmm and WPW 😳

  • Comment 54, posted at 14.11.08 14:43:09 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Cheers all. Enjoy the rugby this weekend

  • Comment 55, posted at 14.11.08 14:49:59 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 54) : 😆 @Pokkel (Comment 55) : You do the same buddy, cheers.

  • Comment 56, posted at 14.11.08 14:54:47 by PJLD Reply
  • young Scottish lad and lass were sitting on a low stone wall, holding hands, gazing out over the loch. For several minutes they sat silently.
    Then finally the girl looked at the boy and said, “A penny for your thoughts, Angus.”
    “Well, uh, I was thinkin’…perhaps it’s aboot time for a wee kiss.”
    The girl blushed, then leaned over and kissed him lightly on the cheek.
    Then he blushed. The two turned once again to gaze out over the loch.
    Minutes passed and the girl spoke again. “Another penny for your thoughts, Angus.” “Well, uh, I was thinkin’ perhaps it’s noo time aboot time for a wee cuddle.”
    The girl blushed, then leaned over and cuddled him for a few seconds.
    Then he blushed. Then the two turned once again to gaze out over the loch.
    After a while, she again said, “Another penny for your thoughts, Angus.”
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    on your leg.”
    The girl blushed, then took his hand and put it on her knee. Then he blushed. The the two turned once again to gaze out over the lock before the girl spoke again.
    “Another penny for your thoughts, Angus.”
    The young man glanced down with a furled brow. “Well,noo,” he said, “my thoughts are a wee bit more serious this time.”
    “Really?” said the lass in a whisper, filled with anticipation.
    “Aye,” said the lad, nodding.
    The girl looked away in shyness, began to blush, and bit her lip in anticipation of the ultimate request.
    Then he said, “Dae ye nae think it’s aboot time ye paid me the first
    three pennies?”

  • Comment 57, posted at 14.11.08 18:40:49 by McLovin Reply
  • A very popular scotsman dies in glasgow and his old widow wishes to tell all his friends at once so she goes to the newspaper and says
    “I’d like tae place an obituary fur ma late husband” The man at the desk says “OK, how much money dae ye have?”
    The old woman replies “£5” to which the man says “You wont get many words for that but write something and we’ll see if it’s ok” so the old woman writes something and hands it over the counter and the man reads “Peter Reid, fae Parkheid, deid”
    He feels guilty at the abruptness of the statement and encourages the old woman to write a few more things. The old woman ponders and then adds a few more words and hand the paper over the counter again. The man then reads “Peter Reid, fae Parkheid deid. Ford Escort for sale”

  • Comment 58, posted at 14.11.08 18:42:53 by McLovin Reply
  • A woman is looking to re-enter the work force, now that her kids are all grown up. But before applying anywhere she goes tae the doctors’ fae a wee physical before takin’ oan a new joab. When she returns her hubby notices she’s just bustin’ wi’ pride and all chuffed.

    So he says; “What’s all this about?”

    She says, “I’ve just been tae the doctors’ and he said I’ve got the body of a twenty year old, and the heart of a 16 year old”.

    To which her hubby fires back…”What about your 50 year old ass?”

    “Your name never came up.” She replies!

  • Comment 59, posted at 14.11.08 18:44:53 by McLovin Reply
  • At an auction in Glasgow a wealthy American announced that he had lost his wallet containing £10,000 and would give a reward of £100 to the person who found it.
    From the back of the hall a Scottish voice shouted, “I’ll give £150!”

  • Comment 60, posted at 14.11.08 18:47:01 by McLovin Reply
  • One day Jock bought a bottle of fine whiskey and while walking home he fell.

    Getting up he felt something wet on his pants.

    He looked up at the sky and said,”Oh lord please I beg you let it be blood!”

  • Comment 61, posted at 14.11.08 18:56:25 by McLovin Reply
  • LOL Canada lead Wales 5-6 with 3 mins left in 1st half

  • Comment 62, posted at 14.11.08 22:11:54 by klempie Reply
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    Seems Wales woke up in the 2nd half

    Wales 34 – 13 Canada

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