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EOYT: Scotland (10) v Springboks (14) (F/T)

Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Springboks on 15 Nov 2008 at 13:00
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The Boks visit Murray field today in the hope of going two from two on tour.

The Scots last managed a win over the Springboks in 2002. The tour of the UK in 2002 was also the infamous tour where we lost 3 – 53 to England a week later. The Springboks came home from that tour with their tails between their legs having lost all three matches.

This year however there is very little chance of that happening again. The Springboks of Pieter De Villiers are a very different side to the one that Rudolph Streauli took on tour in 2002.

Point of interest: Bok Captain John Smit will equal Os du Randt’s record of 80 caps as a Springbok forward when takes to the field today.

KSA Prediction: The Springboks will win this match comforably by 20 points or more and Bryan Habana will be on the score sheet.

Kick-off at Murrayfield in Edinburgh at 14.30 GMT. (16:30 SA Time)

Television coverage outside Europe:
Supersport on MNET and SS1 at 16:00 SA Time
Showsport on SS4 at 16:30 SA Time

Referee: Dave Pearson (England)
Assistant Referees: Alain Rolland (Ireland), Hugh Watkins (Wales)
TMO: Graham Hughes (England)

Scotland: 15 Chris Paterson, 14 Thom Evans, 13 Ben Cairns, 12 Nick De Luca, 11 Rory Lamont, 10 Phil Godman, 9 Mike Blair (captain), 8 Alistair Hogg, 7 John Barclay, 6 Jason White, 5 Jim Hamilton, 4 Nathan Hines, 3 Euan Murray, 2 Ross Ford, 1 Allan Jacobsen
Replacements: 16 Dougie Hall, 17 Alasdair Dickinson, 18 Matt Mustchin, 19 Scott Gray, 20 Rory Lawson, 21 Dan Parks, 22 Hugo Southwell

South Africa: 15 Conrad Jantjes, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Adi Jacobs, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Ruan Pienaar, 9 Ricky Januarie, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Juan Smith, 6 Schalk Burger, 5 Victor Matfield, 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 John Smit (captain), 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Replacements: 16 Brian Mujati, 17 Gürthro Steenkamp, 18 Andries Bekker, 19 Ryan Kankowski, 20 Danie Rossouw, 21 Frans Steyn, 22 Jaque Fourie.


  • Another interesting fact.

    Adi Jacobs is the only survivor from the team that lost to Scotland in 2002.

    Although Butch James and Bolla Conradie could both have been available to play today.

  • Comment 1, posted at 15.11.08 13:16:08 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • The Bok team from 2002

    1 Wessel Roux – Blue Bulls
    2 Lukas van Biljon – Sharks
    3 Deon Carstens – Sharks
    4 Marco Wentzel – Pumas
    5 Jannes Labuschagne – Lions
    6 Corné Krige (Capt) – WP
    7 Pierre Uys – Pumas
    8 Joe van Niekerk – Lions
    9 Bolla Conradie – WP
    10 Butch James – Sharks
    11 Friedrich Lombard – Cheetahs
    12 Adrian Jacobs – Falcons
    13 Robbie Fleck – WP
    14 Breyton Paulse – WP
    15 Werner Greeff – WP

    Subs used: André Pretorius – Lions, AJ Venter – Sharks, CJ van der Linde – Cheetahs.

  • Comment 2, posted at 15.11.08 13:20:13 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 2) :

    Man that side was inexperienced.

    4 debutants, Deon Carstens, Pierre Uys, Friedrich Lombard & CJ van der Linde.

    2 guys only earning their 2nd Caps, Marco Wentzel & Wessel Roux.

    and a FURTHER 7 players with 10 caps or less, Lukas van Biljon (10), Jannes Labuschagne (9), Bolla Conradie (8), Butch James (7), Adrian Jacobs (8), Werner Greeff (7) & André Pretorius (8).

  • Comment 3, posted at 15.11.08 13:29:27 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Assistant Referees: Alain Rolland (England), Hugh Watkins (Wales)

    I’m pretty sure that even though he has a French sounding name, Alain Rolland is Irish not English.

  • Comment 4, posted at 15.11.08 14:01:50 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Of c0ourse if I’m wrong, it won’t be the first or last time. 😆

  • Comment 5, posted at 15.11.08 14:02:38 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 5) :

    No You are right. I missed that Error. Let me go and correct it. 😳

  • Comment 6, posted at 15.11.08 14:04:11 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Just as a matter of interest. Rolland refereed the match that we lost to the Scots in 2002.

  • Comment 7, posted at 15.11.08 14:04:52 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • KSA, can I ask a laws question, specifically Fourie’s yellow last week?

  • Comment 8, posted at 15.11.08 14:06:39 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 8) :

    yeah sure. fire away, while i go and look for the answer i already gave. 😉 🙂

  • Comment 9, posted at 15.11.08 14:08:19 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • This is what i had to say about the issue last week.

    Make no mistake, Mossie did deserve to get penalised. I don’t want to get into but they were allowed to do it discussions.

    Fourie would have been fine had he stayed on his feet. it doesn’t matter that it was a balance issue when he fell over. He tackled the player, (legal) got to his feet and played the ball (legal) but then a split second later fell over and sealed the ball (not legal)

    Did he deserve a yellow card? for the incident in isolation, NO, but he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It has happened before and it will happen again. A ref gives a general warning and then some poor sod who has JUST come onto the pitch is the next guy to get penalised and he has to go sit in the bin. (Wrong place wrong time)

  • Comment 10, posted at 15.11.08 14:09:25 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • I saw your answer and discussion, but after watching it again, I had another thought (yeah I know, thinking just results in me getting a headache).

    Anyway, it seems JF recovers the ball legally while on his feet, then with the ball in his possession, he falls over forward, then places the ball back between his legs. Surely once he recovered the ball legally (while on his feet), and only after he recovered falls over forward, surely he has the right to place the ball just like any tackled ball carrier? This is where I am confused, it seems his recovery was legal, and he fell over once he already had possession. I understand that if he had fallen over in the act of recovering the ball he should have been pinged, but I don’t believe that is what happened.

  • Comment 11, posted at 15.11.08 14:11:29 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • My questions is: How can he seal the ball if he was the ball carrier?

  • Comment 12, posted at 15.11.08 14:12:35 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • I understand why he got a yellow, it was wrong place wrong time, but my question was did he really deserve to be penalized (or as Naas said did he deserve to be blown once he went to ground). 😆

  • Comment 13, posted at 15.11.08 14:13:38 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • I suppose my point is that he fell over carrying the ball, not sealing it.

  • Comment 14, posted at 15.11.08 14:14:37 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 11) :

    I don’t have video of the incicdent but in the way you describe it he could be considered legal.

    The way I saw it (and I’ve only seen it during the match) it looked as if he placed the ball backwards before he fell over.

  • Comment 15, posted at 15.11.08 14:14:56 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 15) : I will look again, but it seemed to me he fell over and then did the squeeze ball between his legs while on his hands and knees (after he fell down).

  • Comment 16, posted at 15.11.08 14:16:10 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • OK, so your call is based on the fact he did not actually carry the ball, just recovered, pushed it behind him then fell over? I see how that would be illegal, since he was no longer a ball carrier when going to ground and did indeed seal the ball while going to ground. But my viewing was a little different.

    I do not hold any blame for the referee, I am looking at replays looking for specific actions and timing, it all happened in the heat of the moment and the referee made the call. I think it would be interesting to watch the replay together with the ref and ask his opinion after pointing out the timing.

  • Comment 17, posted at 15.11.08 14:19:06 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 14) :

    We now just need to decide if he was holding it when he fell over or if he had already placed it? 🙂

    Did you watch Boots & All on thursday (sorry stupid question) 😉

    Andre Watson was commenting on the foot in touch incident and he said the ref got it wrong and that it should have been our ball, citing exactly the same laws I cited during the week on the issue but he came up with a different result to me 😛

    He believes the ball had stopped moving before the player touched it whereas I think it was still moving.

    Whether Fourie deserved to be penalised at all will also be down to the individuals opinion on whether he was still holding the ball or had he already placed it.

    I would love to see the clip again to have a few good looks at it.

  • Comment 18, posted at 15.11.08 14:20:22 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • I still think we should have an ask the experts section on this blog. It seems Rob has gotten so many experts in so many different disciplines to participate on this blog that we could all learn something. Rob has found fitness experts, psychological experts, coaching experts, and of course we have our own in house Rugby Laws expert in ou Grote KSA.

  • Comment 19, posted at 15.11.08 14:22:14 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 18) : KSA, I did see Boots and All, hence the comment about getting blown. You are 100% right that ball was still moving when he picked it up, Watson was wrong. I watched the replay several times (thanks Kudu Club), and the ball rolled onto its side, then rolled back onto the point and this is where it was picked up. Since I have never seen a kicked rugby ball settle on the point, I can only assume the ball was going to fall off the point onto the side, and therefore was still moving when he picked it up. To me this was very very clear.

  • Comment 20, posted at 15.11.08 14:25:09 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 19) :

    I might get half the answers wrong. 😛

  • Comment 21, posted at 15.11.08 14:25:18 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • It was very clear that when his hand first touched the ball it was on its point, and never rolled to its side since he picked it up hence stopping the roll.

  • Comment 22, posted at 15.11.08 14:26:27 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • The easiest way to do it is get a searchable PDF version of the Law book and search for answers.

    It works for me. 😉

  • Comment 23, posted at 15.11.08 14:26:32 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 22) :

    so you agree with me then. 😎

  • Comment 24, posted at 15.11.08 14:27:17 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 21) : I don’t believe that for a moment. You reference laws and are willing to listen to other points of view during a discussion. I understand a Ref has to make the call on the field, and can’t debate, but an open mind when interpreting the laws is important.

  • Comment 25, posted at 15.11.08 14:27:37 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 24) : 100% agree with your call on that, I have always had a great deal of respect for Andre Watson, and certainly believe he was one of the very best international referees in his time. But he got this one wrong.

  • Comment 26, posted at 15.11.08 14:28:51 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • I have always believed that no matter the sport, all participants should officiate an event at least once in their lives. It brings a whole new understanding what refs and umpires go through. I think players would not be so quick to criticize if they had this experience. I refereed a few fun games and make it a point to participate in the race committee for at least three sailing events a year.

  • Comment 27, posted at 15.11.08 14:32:09 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 23) : knowing the IRB directives to referees on how to interpret and blow certain situations is helpful, and as a referee you are informed of these directives (I would assume).

  • Comment 28, posted at 15.11.08 14:34:21 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 27) :

    Watson actually mentioned how he got into refereeing.

    He was one of the hecklers on the side during a match and the referee then gave the standard “if you can do it better…….” Which Watson promptly did.

    And the rest is history.

  • Comment 29, posted at 15.11.08 14:34:45 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 28) :

    Used to be, but am out in the sticks now so not a lot gets top me that I don’t find on the IRB site.

  • Comment 30, posted at 15.11.08 14:36:13 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 29) : I saw that. You know I went to school with Jonathan Kaplan for a short time before he moved to Jo’burg. He is four years younger than me, but he credits his primary school headmaster Mike Kessel for getting him into refereeing. I certainly remember the headmaster, ended up in the US as well in San Diego.

  • Comment 31, posted at 15.11.08 14:37:55 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Are you sailing today or only tomorrow?

  • Comment 32, posted at 15.11.08 14:37:57 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 30) : Do you have to keep a certification current with the IRB to be a referee? Required ongoing training or anything like that?

  • Comment 33, posted at 15.11.08 14:39:03 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 32) : Only tomorrow. Regular sailing season is over, frostbite sailing starts tomorrow and is every Sunday through March. Required to wear a drysuit or very good wetsuit when sailing Lasers (small boats) in frostbites. Going to be blowing squirrels out of the trees tomorrow, so should be fun. 😎

  • Comment 34, posted at 15.11.08 14:40:32 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 31) :

    I am not sure when JK started refereeing but I think it was at school still.

    There is another young lad in SA called Stuart Berry who has been refereeing since he was in Std7. He was head boy at hillcrest high and is now on the SARU panel for referees. just outside the top 10 I believe.

  • Comment 35, posted at 15.11.08 14:40:40 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 34) :

    😆 😆

  • Comment 36, posted at 15.11.08 14:41:52 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 35) : Kaplan started refereeing in primary school. Apparently Mike Kessel (Headmaster) was also a provincial referee at the time, and he helped JK get started. I still think JK is about the best referee in the world. What I really like is his very calm demeanour and the fact he does not coach, he simply warns a player then calls the foul.

  • Comment 37, posted at 15.11.08 14:43:05 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 33) :

    yeah there are different courses that you need to do.

    level 1, level 2 etc.

    as an example to be able to referee at the Dubai 7’s as part of the internatioanl TMO or 4th and 5th officials you need to have completed Level two less than 2 years before (IF i recall correctly)

    to ref at club level in the Arabian Gulf you just need to have level 1 though.

  • Comment 38, posted at 15.11.08 14:43:55 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 38) : That being the case, the IRB really should do a better job of communicating with referees. Once you achieve your certification, they have your contact information, and so long as you keep them informed of changes, there is no reason all certified referees should receive directives from the IRB. e-mail is a wonderful thing, the IRB should figure that out. 😉

  • Comment 39, posted at 15.11.08 14:45:42 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • KSA, the Amish community around here (Annapolis) have a market and they also have a butcher. A bunch of expats here in the area got together, and gave a boerewors recipe to the Amish butcher. So now he makes boerewors any time we want it. Have 20 lbs in my freezer now. 😀 The Amish butcher is really nice, talked to him for a while, he said they have all tried the boerewors and really like it, so they are making it for themselves now. Goes right with the bratwurst, weiswurst and other good German sausage they also make.

  • Comment 40, posted at 15.11.08 14:49:27 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 37) :

    Yeah he used to get quite excited around the late 90’s and then suddenly he became very quiet on the field and almost took on an aire of “aristocracy” on the pitch. Some people don’t like it, I LOVE it.

    He has such cool control, he doesn’t raise his voice he just implies the authority with his tone.

    His best comment ever was in the early 00’s when Bobby was doing all the radio stuff and TV ads etc. The same year Bobby gave the “you lied to me Tappe, you lied to me” speech.

    JK nailed WP for something on the field and Bobby wanted to talk YET again after how many times during the match and JK just tuned him in THAT tone “Hey Bobby!! I talk on the field….you talk on the Radio”

    Bobby just shut up.

  • Comment 41, posted at 15.11.08 14:49:51 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 39) :

    The courses are done by the local societies, but they should still do the same as you are suggesting.

  • Comment 42, posted at 15.11.08 14:50:48 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 40) :

    I have to smuggle the stuff into the country if I want any. It is made in the pork section of the supermarket in bahrain so when i want some I have to have it wrapped as something else and then hope the customs guys don’t want to check it. 🙂

  • Comment 43, posted at 15.11.08 14:53:55 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 42) : It is not difficult nowadays to maintain a current list of officials. Too bad really. On water and protest committee sailing judges have to be certified at 3 levels, but then have annual training requirements as well. I believe they must attend a minimum of 20 hours of training annually to maintain their certification.

    I agree with you about JK, speak with an air of authority, does not require raising one’s voice.

    It was funny in the CC this season, I think against the Valke, JK walked up to an injured player and tuned him to watch his language. 😆

  • Comment 44, posted at 15.11.08 14:55:51 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • We used to have Law meetings every 2nd Monday in Dbn when I was still refereeing there.

    I am not sure what the occasion was but JK gave a talk the one night and somehow the guys got onto Shakespeare and what rugby would have been like in his time. and what commands the ref would have given in those times. The one that has always stuck in my mind was if a player comes up to you and wants to argue a point of sorts. The ref’s response should be: “Be Brief or Be Gone.”

    There were a few classics in there that I can’t recall. (Didn’t do any SHakespeare in Kroonstad 😳 )

  • Comment 45, posted at 15.11.08 14:57:26 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Next we will teach the Amish butcher how to make droewors (sp?).

    They can’t make Halal boerewors with beef in KSA? I’ve had kosher boerewors before.

  • Comment 46, posted at 15.11.08 14:57:55 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 45) : 😆

  • Comment 47, posted at 15.11.08 14:58:42 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 44) :

    Yeah I recall that. 😀

    It was Sean Plaatjies if I recall correctly.

  • Comment 48, posted at 15.11.08 14:59:16 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Hark fine captain, dost thou prefer a scrum or free kick?

  • Comment 49, posted at 15.11.08 15:00:33 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 48) : that’s right, Plaatjies, the most deceptively quick player around. He looks like an out of shape prop, but gets around the field like a loosie.

  • Comment 50, posted at 15.11.08 15:01:45 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 46) :

    spelling is correct.

    I suppose they can but the Wors in Bahrain must contain pork somehwere. They have regular boerewors in the shop and it has a VERY red, almost kidney coloured, meat in it.

    The best Wors I have ever eaten is from Grobbies butchery on the Bluff. it’s called “kom terug wors” it is a Beef and Kudu mix. 😎 😎 😎 😎

  • Comment 51, posted at 15.11.08 15:02:20 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 50) :

    all that while looking like he is 60 years old. 😆

  • Comment 52, posted at 15.11.08 15:02:59 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 49) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 53, posted at 15.11.08 15:03:12 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • To kick or not to kick, that is the question
    whether it’s nobler to carry the ball and suffer the tackles of the opposition
    or to kick out of hand and be accused a coward.
    To sidestep, perchance to spin
    Aye there’s the rub
    for in that athletic spin will you really slip the tackle
    to step, to spin no more
    for will the referee be able to see the ball grounded at the bottom of that ruck.

  • Comment 54, posted at 15.11.08 15:04:56 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 51) : Perhaps they put some pork in for fat content, but if it is really red, it must surely be beef? The Amish butcher makes it all beef and adds some beef fat.

  • Comment 55, posted at 15.11.08 15:06:24 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • hmmmmm last line needs to change. 😛

  • Comment 56, posted at 15.11.08 15:08:41 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Ref: Aye there’s the rub

    when the guy is not happy with the ref’s call. 😆

  • Comment 57, posted at 15.11.08 15:10:04 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 57) : KSA, if you tuned a captain “Aye there’s the rub.” he would just look at you with an open mouth, turn around and go back to his team. 😆

  • Comment 58, posted at 15.11.08 15:12:10 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 55) :

    yeah that is the regular wors that is red in the regular section of the supermarket, but when you go into the enclosed pork section then the wors is the lighter colour.

    I have never tried the pure beef wors, it just looks to red.

  • Comment 59, posted at 15.11.08 15:12:40 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • to step, to spin no more
    for in that pile of humanity with the grounded ball be seen?

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 58) :


  • Comment 61, posted at 15.11.08 15:13:02 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 59) : the wors we got was very red when we got it, but after a day in the fridge, or in the freezer, it definitely was not as red. I think the worcestershire sauce takes some of the red colour out.

  • Comment 62, posted at 15.11.08 15:14:17 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 61) : Of course if you tuned Matfield like that, he would just stand there and glare at you like he always does with every referee. I think they speak to fast for him to understand. 😆

  • Comment 63, posted at 15.11.08 15:15:29 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 62) :

    could be.

    The pork one is like forbidden fruit… … … always tastes better. 😉

  • Comment 64, posted at 15.11.08 15:16:50 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 64) : funny, I have never liked pork all that much. Much prefer mutton. If something needs fat, use mutton not pork….my opinion anyway. 😆

  • Comment 65, posted at 15.11.08 15:18:05 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Mutton has a stronger flavour than pork. Love mutton stews and curries.

  • Comment 66, posted at 15.11.08 15:18:44 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 63) :

    Ref: Aye, there’s the rub.

    Matfield: Huh? (turns and walks away)
    Du Preez: Wat het they gese?
    Matfield looking puzzled: Iets van hy het dit gemis want hy het sy oog gevryf?

  • Comment 67, posted at 15.11.08 15:19:26 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • what time does the game stART?

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 66) :

    OHHHHHHHHHHHHH Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!

    Not so much stew but Curry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I LOVE spicy foods, but Indian Pakistani Thai style as opposed to Mexican style.

  • Comment 69, posted at 15.11.08 15:20:59 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • I worked on a hog farm for a couple of weeks once. All the guys that worked there shaved their heads. I didn’t know why until after the two weeks and it took me two months to get the smell out of my hair. And they were considered a very clean operation. Of course I must say the going away party with the pig roasted on a spit over an open fire was really good.

  • Comment 70, posted at 15.11.08 15:21:15 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 68) :

    17:30 OUR time.

    16:30 SA

  • Comment 71, posted at 15.11.08 15:21:24 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Sorry to hop into discussions… but watching Transworld Sports waiting for the rugga… JEEZ haven’t the Bok women’s side improved of late… despite the few obvious quota’s… there are some MONSTERS in there… what looked like Rickie’s sister (big sister) put in one of the biggest legal spear tackles I’ve seen in some time in any rugga…

    In saying that… they had the Kiwi team doing the haka after that… an I kakked me daks… eish… scary mumma’s! 😆

  • Comment 72, posted at 15.11.08 15:21:28 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 68) : 4 pm SA time I believe.

  • Comment 73, posted at 15.11.08 15:21:44 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 70) :

    I know all about smells sticking to hair. 😡

    When still working At Sapref in Dbn I had longish hair and whenever I would work in and area with Fuelgas in it I would have my hair smell of FG for like 2 or 3 days after. 😡

  • Comment 74, posted at 15.11.08 15:23:31 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 69) : Mexican hot is just hot peppers and cumin. No other spices really, kind of boring. Growing up in Durban, of course curry was a huge part of my diet, and more Southern Indian style, more seafood, and red curries. Not much Tandoori (too dry). Other Asian curries tend to be yellow and green which I don’t like quite as much as the red, but just my personal preference. Curry flavour is so much more complex than chili.

  • Comment 75, posted at 15.11.08 15:23:52 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 72) :

    They have qualified for the 7RWC so they can’t be to shabby.

  • Comment 76, posted at 15.11.08 15:24:36 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 72) : I have seen some tuff looking Maori women. Kind of funny because in general I think Polynesian women tend to be incredibly attractive.

  • Comment 77, posted at 15.11.08 15:25:55 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 75) :

    Red is my favourite as well.
    The only green “curry” I like is Korma.

    My favourite is Butter Chicken or Chicken Makhani (same thing different name)

  • Comment 78, posted at 15.11.08 15:26:21 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • My word look at the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I should have left the office ages ago.

    Be on from home in awhile.


  • Comment 79, posted at 15.11.08 15:27:11 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 74) : The locals on that farm thought I was very funny. They were walking me around the farm on the first day and they showed me the breeding stock. There were a bunch of sows and only this one hog. I asked how many sows the hog serviced. They said 30 to 40. I said, when he dies can I have his job? After that, every time I met a new person on the farm, they said, so you’re the guy that want sot be a hog. 😆

  • Comment 80, posted at 15.11.08 15:28:05 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Cheers KSA.

  • Comment 81, posted at 15.11.08 15:28:39 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Almost time for the game of the weekend… Wobblies v Poms…

  • Comment 82, posted at 15.11.08 15:45:30 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 82) : Brycey Wobblies??? 😉

  • Comment 83, posted at 15.11.08 15:57:13 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 80) :


  • Comment 84, posted at 15.11.08 16:07:25 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • I am here. Afternoon all. Go Bokke.

    I will be flicking between the channels today, want to watch both the Bokke and the Aussies games!

  • Comment 85, posted at 15.11.08 16:08:26 by Villie Reply
  • Ma gents…

  • Comment 86, posted at 15.11.08 16:09:56 by robdylan Reply
  • Thanks all confused..we are an our ahead of KSA here in Iraq.

  • Comment 87, posted at 15.11.08 16:10:45 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply
  • Is it just me or Deans the worlds second most ‘driest’ man after (John Mitchell of course)…

    Robbo or KSA can you sort my avatar… asseblief?

  • Comment 88, posted at 15.11.08 16:14:02 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 87) :

    No you are the same as me I think. We are both 17:15 at the moment

  • Comment 89, posted at 15.11.08 16:15:44 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 83) :

    Do you want a PK?


  • Comment 90, posted at 15.11.08 16:16:08 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 88) :


  • Comment 91, posted at 15.11.08 16:17:06 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • hey guyz, at last i got mnet and this will be my 1st rugga game on it. Lol hee haa!

  • Comment 92, posted at 15.11.08 16:21:38 by jarsonx Reply
  • Mr de Villiers very subdued in he’s pre-match interview. Seems someone slipped him a sedative. 😉

  • Comment 93, posted at 15.11.08 16:21:58 by McLovin Reply
  • Guscott reckons Habana is lazy lately.

  • Comment 94, posted at 15.11.08 16:22:52 by McLovin Reply
  • @jarsonx (Comment 92) :


  • Comment 95, posted at 15.11.08 16:25:44 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 94) :

    He may be right but i reckon that he is going to score a try today.

  • Comment 96, posted at 15.11.08 16:26:30 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • no more radio, unless im @ work lol. Go Bokke!

  • Comment 97, posted at 15.11.08 16:26:55 by jarsonx Reply
  • Our Anthem on at the moment.
    😎 😎 😎

    Flower of Scotland next?

  • Comment 98, posted at 15.11.08 16:27:16 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Flower of Scotland 😎 😎

  • Comment 99, posted at 15.11.08 16:28:39 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Must say whatever music was played for our anthem was poor at best. Flower of Scotland was inspirational as always. 😀

  • Comment 100, posted at 15.11.08 16:30:34 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Chris White reffing Italy v Arg has a bloody nose. 😯 😆

    not sure how it happened 🙁

  • Comment 101, posted at 15.11.08 16:30:35 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 100) :

    Yeah our anthem was one of the quitest in a long time.

  • Comment 102, posted at 15.11.08 16:31:24 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • A blustery day in Scotland???? Surely they jest. 🙄 😆

  • Comment 103, posted at 15.11.08 16:31:31 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • As beast picks up the ball and goes the cries of Beast are louder than our anthem was. 😯

  • Comment 104, posted at 15.11.08 16:32:17 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Dinner has arrived, BRB.

  • Comment 105, posted at 15.11.08 16:33:28 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • How come Goose-step takes the kick-offs?

  • Comment 106, posted at 15.11.08 16:33:32 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • Get SchPies off…

  • Comment 107, posted at 15.11.08 16:34:27 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • Half the Kilts kakked themselves when Burger was on the charge… 😆

  • Comment 108, posted at 15.11.08 16:35:17 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 107) :

    First Knock by SA and who should it be????????????? Pieroid Spies.

  • Comment 109, posted at 15.11.08 16:42:44 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Burger gets penalised for not using his arms in the tackle.

    What a cheek. Who does he think he is? Butch James?

    Scots go at goal. and miss.

    0 – 0

  • Comment 110, posted at 15.11.08 16:47:03 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • %$£& me but the commentators AND NH refs are a bunch of wossies…

    Soon it will be illegal to touch another player!!

  • Comment 111, posted at 15.11.08 16:47:32 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply
  • Up and Under on Spies and guess what he does with it???????????? 😕 😕

  • Comment 112, posted at 15.11.08 16:47:57 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Bismarck injury didn’t look good at all. At first glance I would say the end of his tour!

  • Comment 113, posted at 15.11.08 16:49:32 by Villie Reply
  • Scots going at goal as matfield or Mujati are PKd at a ruck.

    Parks misses again!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 114, posted at 15.11.08 16:49:37 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • WTF is wrong with the Kilt kickers… 😯

  • Comment 115, posted at 15.11.08 16:49:40 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • And THIS time Spies takes a GREAT up and under.

  • Comment 116, posted at 15.11.08 16:50:00 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 113) :

    Let’s hope you need a second look. 😉

  • Comment 117, posted at 15.11.08 16:51:05 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • JP is awesome!!

  • Comment 118, posted at 15.11.08 16:51:08 by Villie Reply
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 116) :

    Boks looking decidedly rudderless…

  • Comment 119, posted at 15.11.08 16:53:13 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • Ref getting irritable with John as John tries to talk to him. “leave it now thanks” 👿

    Ruan going at goal.

  • Comment 120, posted at 15.11.08 16:53:47 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 119) :


    Ruan misses.

    0 – 0

    20 Min

  • Comment 121, posted at 15.11.08 16:54:34 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • This is better… Smit the best loose-forward there…

  • Comment 122, posted at 15.11.08 16:55:56 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 120) : That’s the problem with NH refs…you can’t talk to them!

    With the SH refs, the guys get to know them well in the Super 14 and you can at least have a word with them without them getting all shirty!

  • Comment 123, posted at 15.11.08 16:56:17 by Villie Reply

  • Comment 124, posted at 15.11.08 16:56:34 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • Some great pick and goes and crash balls off the edge of the ruck by SA sees them get 5m out and win the put in at the scrum

  • Comment 125, posted at 15.11.08 16:57:01 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 124) :

    NO IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 126, posted at 15.11.08 16:57:28 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • What was the fk at the scrum for? I mean we were on the attack!! 🙁 🙁

  • Comment 127, posted at 15.11.08 16:57:59 by Villie Reply
  • John you legend.

    He has obviously realised the ref is pissed at SA so now he cracks a Joke with the ref. 😎

  • Comment 128, posted at 15.11.08 16:58:35 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 126) :

    Was it chirping… or what?


  • Comment 129, posted at 15.11.08 16:58:49 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 124) :

    @Villie (Comment 127) :

    We were shifting off the mark at the scrum. a real NOTHING FK.

    Man our commentators are unhappy 😆 😆

  • Comment 130, posted at 15.11.08 17:00:14 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • ANOTHER penalty against us for coming in at the side!

  • Comment 131, posted at 15.11.08 17:00:51 by Villie Reply
  • Scotland PK

    3 – 0 Scots


  • Comment 132, posted at 15.11.08 17:01:29 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 130) : It’s a Pom referee…exactly as expected. Games never flow with them!

  • Comment 133, posted at 15.11.08 17:01:40 by Villie Reply
  • Bit weird with the ELV’s there are all these full arm penalties…

    Boks are clueless all the same… Kilts should be 9-0 up…

  • Comment 134, posted at 15.11.08 17:02:56 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • @Villie (Comment 131) :

    That was correct though but he ain’t consistent at all.

  • Comment 135, posted at 15.11.08 17:03:23 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Evans leaves Habana for dead.

  • Comment 136, posted at 15.11.08 17:04:21 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Comment 137, posted at 15.11.08 17:05:56 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • JAMES YOU F^&*ING BEAUTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    80 mins Conversion Butch James

    80 mins Try Butch James


    Butch James Bath 27 – 21 Heyneke Meyer Tigers

  • Comment 138, posted at 15.11.08 17:07:12 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 135) : Yeah wasn’t having a go at the ref for that one. More frustration at how stupid we were

  • Comment 139, posted at 15.11.08 17:07:54 by Villie Reply
  • Ag not ANOTHER penalty!!

  • Comment 140, posted at 15.11.08 17:08:22 by Villie Reply
  • Pk against us and then marched 10m for dissent by Burger.

    THIS is where we need people skills from our captain. 😳

  • Comment 141, posted at 15.11.08 17:08:24 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • FOR CRYING OUT LOUD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Is clearing out the ruck illegal now too 🙄


  • Comment 142, posted at 15.11.08 17:10:13 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply
  • This is one kak gameplan I’m afraid to say… against kak opposition…

  • Comment 143, posted at 15.11.08 17:10:28 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • Maybe Paul Dobson knew something about this ref when he predicted we would only win by 8 in his 365 preview. 😕

  • Comment 144, posted at 15.11.08 17:11:16 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Our okes are going to be MAL at HT…let’s hope we make themP AY in 2nd half!

  • Comment 145, posted at 15.11.08 17:11:22 by Villie Reply
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 138) : Wish he was here…

  • Comment 146, posted at 15.11.08 17:11:28 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • Ref on the ground and nobody manages to get a boot on him. 👿

  • Comment 147, posted at 15.11.08 17:12:39 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 146) :

    😳 didn’t even realise that was on the wrong thread.

  • Comment 148, posted at 15.11.08 17:13:45 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Scots try.

  • Comment 149, posted at 15.11.08 17:14:04 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Conversion Over

    10 – 0 Scots


  • Comment 150, posted at 15.11.08 17:14:39 by KSA Shark © Reply
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    Scotland 10 – 0 Springboks

  • Comment 151, posted at 15.11.08 17:15:48 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • What has changed since last week??????

    Jarson got M-Net.

    Gonna have to take one for the team dude. Turn the TV off and switch the radion on. 😉

  • Comment 152, posted at 15.11.08 17:17:02 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 143) :

    Boks become the first team to allow the Kilts a try in 12 games…


    Back to REAL test rugby…

    Go Wobblies!

  • Comment 153, posted at 15.11.08 17:17:15 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • Half Time

    England 11 – 12 Australia

  • Comment 154, posted at 15.11.08 17:18:06 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Mistakes mistakes mistakes… this is one crap Bok side!

  • Comment 155, posted at 15.11.08 17:27:38 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • Finally we get a PK and the ref apologises to the Scots. 🙄 😉

  • Comment 156, posted at 15.11.08 17:27:51 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 155) :

    This is a good side mate, just being blown out of the game and they are being frustrated.

  • Comment 157, posted at 15.11.08 17:29:12 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • JdV steps on the line just before the Scots take it ingoal. 🙁

  • Comment 158, posted at 15.11.08 17:30:49 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • PK Boks and we go at goal.

  • Comment 159, posted at 15.11.08 17:33:01 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • RP slots it.

    10 – 2 Scots

  • Comment 160, posted at 15.11.08 17:33:35 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    Scots get PKd. Matthew Pearce: Consistency creeping in, good to see. 😆

  • Comment 161, posted at 15.11.08 17:36:13 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • JPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a take out the air!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 162, posted at 15.11.08 17:39:09 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Nice gap by Adi

    John knocks on

    Scots hoof upfield and RP does an awesome left boot clearance.

  • Comment 163, posted at 15.11.08 17:40:48 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • western province players should be banned for playing for the boks

  • Comment 164, posted at 15.11.08 17:41:35 by try time Reply
  • Habana off
    Fourie on

  • Comment 165, posted at 15.11.08 17:41:51 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • RP slots a PK.

    10 – 3 Scots

  • Comment 166, posted at 15.11.08 17:42:34 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • and while they are at it maybe habana should be sent to havana
    a whole year of average play still gets rewarded

  • Comment 167, posted at 15.11.08 17:42:39 by try time Reply
  • What a kak game.

  • Comment 168, posted at 15.11.08 17:42:52 by klempie Reply
  • Scots are totally confused as they get PKd again.

    Ref talks to the Scots Captain and the captain says: We don’t really know what you want. 😆 😆

  • Comment 169, posted at 15.11.08 17:44:09 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • LOL @ the Scots complaining about the reffing now! What goes around comes around. Someone pass me the haggis.

  • Comment 170, posted at 15.11.08 17:44:23 by klempie Reply
  • at least the scot captain could say something

  • Comment 171, posted at 15.11.08 17:44:53 by try time Reply
  • Fourieeeee!!! Nice swallow dive!

  • Comment 172, posted at 15.11.08 17:45:27 by klempie Reply
  • Jacque Fourie TRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    being refered but not needed IMO

  • Comment 173, posted at 15.11.08 17:45:39 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • What a finish Jaque Fourie!!

  • Comment 174, posted at 15.11.08 17:45:54 by Villie Reply
  • schalk habana and januarie need a years rest rfrom bok rugby

  • Comment 175, posted at 15.11.08 17:46:31 by try time Reply
  • Conversion missed

    10 – 11 Boks


  • Comment 176, posted at 15.11.08 17:46:50 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Pearce and Wiese wetting themselves over Adi’s performance this season.

  • Comment 177, posted at 15.11.08 17:46:52 by klempie Reply
  • How the hell could Mujati move out of the way there?

  • Comment 178, posted at 15.11.08 17:48:15 by Villie Reply
  • easy get dropped from the boks

  • Comment 179, posted at 15.11.08 17:48:54 by try time Reply
  • @Villie (Comment 178) :


  • Comment 180, posted at 15.11.08 17:48:57 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • he is a province player after all…

  • Comment 181, posted at 15.11.08 17:49:35 by try time Reply
  • Scots miss PK at goal.

    10 – 11 Boks

  • Comment 182, posted at 15.11.08 17:49:36 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Bekker on for Bakkies

  • Comment 183, posted at 15.11.08 17:49:59 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 180) : He made the tackle and then was totally smothered from both sides..not a hope in hell of moving out of the way.

  • Comment 184, posted at 15.11.08 17:51:23 by Villie Reply
  • That was a penalty AGAINST Juan Smith…yet he gave it our way 🙄 🙄

  • Comment 185, posted at 15.11.08 17:54:14 by Villie Reply
  • Boks get a PK for the Scots holding the ball on the ground. The only reason the Scot got caught in the first place was because the Ref was in his way. 😆

  • Comment 186, posted at 15.11.08 17:54:49 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 157) :

    Oh I know individually they are great… but they are playing ‘headless chook’ rugga… where is their coaches ability to adapt… thank fook for Mossie!

  • Comment 187, posted at 15.11.08 17:54:54 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • Steyn on for Div

    Boks go at goal after Scots come through the LO

  • Comment 188, posted at 15.11.08 17:55:42 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • this ref has probably injured his left arm thats why he he has blown only one side each half

  • Comment 189, posted at 15.11.08 17:55:52 by try time Reply
  • YES Ruan!!! 14-10

  • Comment 190, posted at 15.11.08 17:55:55 by Villie Reply
  • Ruan Pienaar slots the penalty 10-14

  • Comment 191, posted at 15.11.08 17:56:04 by klempie Reply
  • Over.

    10 – 14 Boks


  • Comment 192, posted at 15.11.08 17:56:12 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 187) :

    How many more times must I say 22man 85min rugga…

    No spare 9 (much needed)…

    No spare 2…

  • Comment 193, posted at 15.11.08 17:56:50 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • @try time (Comment 189) : hehehe 😉

  • Comment 194, posted at 15.11.08 17:57:25 by klempie Reply
  • Bring on KANKO dammit!

  • Comment 195, posted at 15.11.08 17:57:50 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • And the Bottom drops out of Jantjes’ bread basket. 🙁

    I can’t think of any other reason for that knock on.

  • Comment 196, posted at 15.11.08 17:58:29 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • isn’t jantjies a wp player?

  • Comment 197, posted at 15.11.08 17:58:30 by try time Reply
  • BEKKER ON THE FARKIN WING straight off the bat… what a [email protected]$%!

  • Comment 198, posted at 15.11.08 17:59:11 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 193) :

    There is a spare 9 but no spare 10. 😉

  • Comment 199, posted at 15.11.08 17:59:19 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Boks piling on the pressure now. Looking alot more fluid now although Jantjes missed a sitter pass.

  • Comment 200, posted at 15.11.08 17:59:20 by klempie Reply
  • Jantjes has been KAK. Decent under high ball but awful on attack!!

  • Comment 201, posted at 15.11.08 17:59:29 by Villie Reply
  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 198) :

    Stealing ball from JP nogal!!!!!!

  • Comment 202, posted at 15.11.08 18:00:07 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • Can someone teach Adi to tackle offensively…

  • Comment 203, posted at 15.11.08 18:01:16 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • Spies goes for intercept on Defence and the Scots almost score. 👿 👿 👿

  • Comment 204, posted at 15.11.08 18:02:29 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • ok i am all for pdv getting dropped as coach when his contract ends next year.

  • Comment 205, posted at 15.11.08 18:04:09 by try time Reply
  • PK against Boks for #10 offside

    Scots going at goal.

  • Comment 206, posted at 15.11.08 18:04:21 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Boks sleeping there. Steyn should have FLATTENED Godman. Ref hadn’t blown and ball was still alive!

  • Comment 207, posted at 15.11.08 18:04:22 by Villie Reply
  • 😆 😆 Missed in front of the posts!!!

  • Comment 208, posted at 15.11.08 18:04:51 by Villie Reply
  • LMFAO!!! Godman misses from 10m out bang in front! HAHAHAHAAH

  • Comment 209, posted at 15.11.08 18:05:06 by klempie Reply
  • PK missed from RIGHT in front.


    10 – 14 Boks

  • Comment 210, posted at 15.11.08 18:05:12 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • i am converted. let him get back to his boozing. looking at his eyes during interviews i don’t think he stopped.

  • Comment 211, posted at 15.11.08 18:05:21 by try time Reply
  • taking beast off with the boks only 4 points ahead says it all.

  • Comment 212, posted at 15.11.08 18:06:21 by try time Reply
  • Boks missing SOOO many tackles…we will get hammered next week if we continue like this

  • Comment 213, posted at 15.11.08 18:07:01 by Villie Reply
  • @Villie (Comment 213) : Agreed

  • Comment 214, posted at 15.11.08 18:07:52 by klempie Reply
  • @try time (Comment 211) :

    that’s out of line.

  • Comment 215, posted at 15.11.08 18:07:53 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • check pdv i bet he has a hip flask

  • Comment 216, posted at 15.11.08 18:08:12 by try time Reply
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 215) : Why?

  • Comment 217, posted at 15.11.08 18:08:36 by klempie Reply
  • soc is his coaching. he is a national coach not a club coach

  • Comment 218, posted at 15.11.08 18:08:57 by try time Reply
  • Frans Steyn try saving tackle!!

  • Comment 219, posted at 15.11.08 18:09:27 by Villie Reply
  • Bekker on the wing AGAIN… when tackles are needed!

    Absolutely clueless, rudderless game… with the Kilts missing at least 12 pts…

    Obviously the 365 crew saw PDV’s Boks for what they are!

  • Comment 220, posted at 15.11.08 18:09:28 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • I am shitting myself now.

  • Comment 221, posted at 15.11.08 18:09:54 by klempie Reply
  • he was quick pulling the punches during contract time. he must take the blows when he messes up.

  • Comment 222, posted at 15.11.08 18:10:14 by try time Reply
  • PK SA and we can bring relief from under our posts. 😳

  • Comment 223, posted at 15.11.08 18:10:22 by KSA Shark © Reply
    KSA Shark ©
  • Phewwwww!!! Scots held on. PK Boks. 2 mins left.

  • Comment 224, posted at 15.11.08 18:10:30 by klempie Reply
  • WTF if JAnuarie kicking ball away with 1 minute lefT??

  • Comment 225, posted at 15.11.08 18:11:15 by klempie Reply
  • Jacobs, Bekker, RJ, Mujati… should not be in this side today!


  • Comment 226, posted at 15.11.08 18:12:14 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • Jantjes takes a mark with 30sec to spare.

    LO set up just outside our 22

  • Comment 227, posted at 15.11.08 18:12:57 by KSA Shark © Reply
    KSA Shark ©
  • the last time i saw the boks play this bad against the scots was under straulli. do we want this coach dashing our dreams inc 3 years time.

  • Comment 228, posted at 15.11.08 18:13:16 by try time Reply
  • Prediction:

    England 32 – 10 Boks

  • Comment 229, posted at 15.11.08 18:13:44 by klempie Reply
  • It’s typical PDV… ‘play it as you see it rugga’… RUBBISH!

    This was Scotland’s game missing 12 pts…

  • Comment 230, posted at 15.11.08 18:13:52 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • Januarie shows excellent composure in making SURE time is up before putting the ball in touch from the ruck.


    Scotland 10 – 14 Springboks

  • Comment 231, posted at 15.11.08 18:14:13 by KSA Shark © Reply
    KSA Shark ©
  • Back to the REAL rugby… Aus stepping up to the plate and upping the ante and THUMPING the Poms (who will beat the hapless Boks next week)…

  • Comment 232, posted at 15.11.08 18:15:19 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • Juan Smith made man of the Match

  • Comment 233, posted at 15.11.08 18:17:02 by KSA Shark © Reply
    KSA Shark ©
  • England 14 – 28 Australia


  • Comment 234, posted at 15.11.08 18:17:59 by KSA Shark © Reply
    KSA Shark ©
  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 226) : You obviously didn’t watch Jacobs. He was man of the match with his little touches

  • Comment 235, posted at 15.11.08 18:19:04 by robdylan Reply
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 233) : What a joke

  • Comment 236, posted at 15.11.08 18:20:10 by robdylan Reply
  • My man of the match was Spies..he had a blinder..try saving tackles got stuck in alot more…vast improvement.

    J Fourie is pure class.

  • Comment 237, posted at 15.11.08 18:22:33 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 235) :

    He missed a few tackles though but, but no less than the rest of the team. On attack he was great though.

  • Comment 238, posted at 15.11.08 18:22:53 by KSA Shark © Reply
    KSA Shark ©
  • i wouldn’t give man of the match to any of the boks

  • Comment 239, posted at 15.11.08 18:25:29 by try time Reply
  • Sadly, the Boks deserved to lose this one. 😡 🙁

  • Comment 240, posted at 15.11.08 18:27:45 by Silver Fox Reply
    Silver Fox
  • @robdylan (Comment 235) :

    Yes obviously I didn’t then…

  • Comment 241, posted at 15.11.08 18:28:09 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • @Silver Fox (Comment 240) : they did. they lost all respect. we threw away a good start to the tri nations and two dismal performances against b gradec teams really doesn’t deserve respect.

  • Comment 242, posted at 15.11.08 18:30:44 by try time Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 235) :

    Test rugby IMO is more than ‘pretty rugby’… you might have missed Mossie putting in a try and 95% hit/miss tackles in just 30 mins…

    But what do I know… I’m just a mug punter…

    How did you like Bekker’s game on the wing?

    I don’t reckon he even put in one tackle this week after missing 4 from 7 last week (yes only 7)….

  • Comment 243, posted at 15.11.08 18:31:32 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • Im sorry but I feel there are 2 factors here…And I don’t think its PDV fault…the players need to take responsibility here..50/50 passes..knockon’s ..and taking the wrong options at crucial times is not the coaches fault.

    2nd is I truely believe alot of the senior players are well jaded and need a break , Juan,Schalk,Jean too name a few are running on empty…hell look at Habanas form..

  • Comment 244, posted at 15.11.08 18:33:29 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply
  • What an inept use and device of a bench…


    22 MAN 85 MIN rugby…

    Bok’s are going backwards…

  • Comment 245, posted at 15.11.08 18:34:16 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • Once again, outmuscled at the breakdowns, with too many forwards standing in the backline.

    Jacobs tried, but it should be Jean and Jaques at centre, with anyone else in Habanas place.

    JPP close to my man of the match.

    Steyn should be at 15!!!

  • Comment 246, posted at 15.11.08 18:34:41 by Silver Fox Reply
    Silver Fox
  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 244) :

    Rubbish… Schalk and JDV had 3 weeks of conditioning before they went on this (only 3 match) tour…

  • Comment 247, posted at 15.11.08 18:36:18 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 244) : how can the same players you are blaming lokk totally different when they play for province and country. the coach also chooses those players you are blaming. pdv is 80% to blame in my book.

  • Comment 248, posted at 15.11.08 18:36:26 by try time Reply
  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 243) :
    Come on Bryce, JF had a good game, but so did Adi – he turned the tackler in order for Steyn to steal their ball in their last attack, for example.

    Big questions remain of our decision-making, especially in terms of kicking ball away, as well as our refusal to run the secondary channels.

    I do think that their are definite signs of the players not playing to the coaches philosophy – something has to give.

  • Comment 249, posted at 15.11.08 18:37:41 by Big Fish Reply
    Big Fish
  • i hate soccer but i just saw a great goal that killed arsenals season.

  • Comment 250, posted at 15.11.08 18:40:04 by try time Reply
  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 247) :

    Players carrying crap coaching team AGAIN I’m afraid…

    Welsh dominated us… Scots with a goal kicker would have thumped us… and we are not moving forward at all leading up to the Lions tour…

    Anyway it’s only a game eh… laters all enjoy the rest of your weekend I’m outa here…

  • Comment 251, posted at 15.11.08 18:40:45 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • wenger and pdv can go boozing together.

  • Comment 252, posted at 15.11.08 18:41:41 by try time Reply
  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 247) :

    How can you Rubbish that off cuff…do you actaully think reconditioning has helped..it is actauly possible that it hasn’t…

    They have been at it since the WC …3 weeks is squat..how bout CC,super14.

    I understand you’re pissed at the performance but take a diff angle on it..they have been below par…and why is the question..

    @try time (Comment 248) :

    I’m not blaming them..just pointing out that to me..they look way of the pace that we know they can play.

    It was a tough super14 for the Stormers players with that late surge and then the CC..it all adds up.

  • Comment 253, posted at 15.11.08 18:43:58 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply
  • @try time (Comment 248) : Good point.

  • Comment 254, posted at 15.11.08 18:47:57 by klempie Reply
  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 253) : fair enough but then the coach must give the top players a break. then at least he can blame b players for a poor performance. a good coach wouldn’t put three loosies that play the exact same game. the sharks success came from three totally different loosies that knew their role. exactly what make nz so succesful.

  • Comment 255, posted at 15.11.08 18:48:02 by try time Reply
  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 253) : They are plainly not committed enough. The whole first half most of our ‘experienced’ thickheads tried to teach the ref the game instead of taking out the opposition as they should have.

  • Comment 256, posted at 15.11.08 18:49:52 by Silver Fox Reply
    Silver Fox
  • @Big Fish (Comment 249) : Agree. Mossie was great, but so was Adi

  • Comment 257, posted at 15.11.08 18:50:01 by robdylan Reply
  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 253) :

    Burger is actually looking refreshed IMO this tour (and it is only MO)… but then he is an android…

    Smith on the other hand, yep has not stopped ever, yet he still puts in the most tackles in the side…

    Really outa here now… have a good one…

  • Comment 258, posted at 15.11.08 18:50:01 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • which national coach would put players like schalk habana and januarie in a team when they have been shocking all season. if you can’t play cc you shouldn’t play for your country.

  • Comment 259, posted at 15.11.08 18:51:24 by try time Reply
  • LOL @ Naas! “Darren, whenever England loses…it’s a good feeling.” :mrgreen:

  • Comment 260, posted at 15.11.08 18:53:44 by klempie Reply
  • @Silver Fox (Comment 256) :
    Agree fully with that – so we had a shit ref – can’t change that, so adapt ffs!

    Anyway, our technique and decision-making is really poor on the whole – and the wings really aren’t being freed up, although they are both great runners.

    Of course it doesn’t help that we were struggling in the scrums, but we should still have had more possession, but for the kicking.

    To be honest, this team is looking more and more like the 2008 S14 Sharks – structureless, and when we do build a foundation, we fail, through poor execution, to get expansive.

  • Comment 261, posted at 15.11.08 18:54:30 by Big Fish Reply
    Big Fish
  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 258) : schalk is good until ruck time then he is a penalty waiting to happen.

  • Comment 262, posted at 15.11.08 18:55:00 by try time Reply
  • @Big Fish (Comment 261) : Except the Boks couldn’t make the S14 semis…

  • Comment 263, posted at 15.11.08 18:56:40 by klempie Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 263) : 100% agreed.

  • Comment 264, posted at 15.11.08 18:58:19 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 259) :
    Any team in the world would pick Habana and Schalk to start – they have proven their class over and over again.

    And trust me, if Jake was still coach, he would also have started with them.

    @try time (Comment 262) :
    How many penalties did Schalk give away today by the way? Think he is being largely ineffective at the moment, but for that very questionable position for a “shoulder charge”, he wasn’t penalised at all.

  • Comment 265, posted at 15.11.08 18:58:28 by Big Fish Reply
    Big Fish
  • @try time (Comment 255) :

    Agreed! , don’t understand why bring players along if they are no getting any game time.

    I’m as pissed at the next guy about our performance so far..hell this is a very talented side and should be hammering sides like Scotland and Wales.

  • Comment 266, posted at 15.11.08 19:03:46 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply
  • @Big Fish (Comment 265) : how many knocks has habana made in the last 6 months. 1 try in 11 bok matches. lets look at form before name brands. schalk is ineffective. so he can run like a bulldozer doesn’t make you a great player. beast does that but he also performs at his job as prop. how much ball does schalk get of rucks. isn’t that his job. he is average at best.

  • Comment 267, posted at 15.11.08 19:04:12 by try time Reply
  • On a positive note we’re still winning..it could very easily have been 2 games played and 2 lost..

  • Comment 268, posted at 15.11.08 19:06:35 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply
  • so you can argue at least he has good defence. but jacques botes is better. and jacques scores tries. and baywatch gets ball out of rucks. so why are we playing the brain dead?

  • Comment 269, posted at 15.11.08 19:06:43 by try time Reply
  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 268) : true but wasn’t that like the sharks under dick. but when it mattered they crashed.

  • Comment 270, posted at 15.11.08 19:08:59 by try time Reply
  • in ten years time i won’t remember the sharks great 2007 s14 performance, but i’ll remember they choked when it mattered. same as i do when i think of mallets 99 boks.

  • Comment 271, posted at 15.11.08 19:12:15 by try time Reply
  • we have three years til we have to defend our trophy, lets hope it doesn’t lie in an inepts hands.

  • Comment 272, posted at 15.11.08 19:17:39 by try time Reply
  • C’mon Ireland!!!!

  • Comment 273, posted at 15.11.08 19:17:42 by McLovin Reply
  • @McLovin (Comment 273) : i feel the same. but logic says the guiness brewera won’t do it.

  • Comment 274, posted at 15.11.08 19:20:07 by try time Reply
  • NZ doing their new dance. Very dramatic. Shouting, waving of arms.

  • Comment 275, posted at 15.11.08 19:20:28 by McLovin Reply
  • No river dance from the Irish unfortunately. 🙄

  • Comment 276, posted at 15.11.08 19:21:37 by McLovin Reply
  • pity their 1st minute wasn’t as impressive

  • Comment 277, posted at 15.11.08 19:23:16 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 274) : True.

  • Comment 278, posted at 15.11.08 19:24:10 by McLovin Reply
  • it must be a green jersey thing.

  • Comment 279, posted at 15.11.08 19:24:29 by try time Reply
  • Fields of Athenry

    By a lonely prison wall
    I heard a young girl calling
    Micheal they are taking you away
    For you stole Trevelyn’s corn
    So the young might see the morn.
    Now a prison ship lies waiting in the bay.

    Low lie the Fields of Athenry
    Where once we watched the small free birds fly.
    Our love was on the wing
    we had dreams and songs to sing
    It’s so lonely ’round the Fields of Athenry.

    By a lonely prison wall
    I heard a young man calling
    Nothing matters Mary when you’re free,
    Against the Famine and the Crown
    I rebelled they ran me down
    Now you must raise our child with dignity.


    By a lonely harbour wall
    She watched the last star falling
    As that prison ship sailed out against the sky
    Sure she’ll wait and hope and pray
    For her love in Botany Bay
    It’s so lonely ’round the Fields of Athenry.


  • Comment 280, posted at 15.11.08 19:24:56 by McLovin Reply
  • ok i am going to change the channel. 3 minutes in and ireland are looking poor. the boks have already ruined my evening. so let me not get totally depressed. cheers guys. loved the conversation. i’ll leave you to the happy world.

  • Comment 281, posted at 15.11.08 19:27:51 by try time Reply
  • Carter’s having a shocker! 😯

  • Comment 282, posted at 15.11.08 19:48:22 by klempie Reply
  • HT Ireland 3 – 3 NZ Come on Ireland!

  • Comment 283, posted at 15.11.08 20:06:33 by klempie Reply
  • Aww hang on penalty try in the last movement. Ireland 3 – 10 NZ

  • Comment 284, posted at 15.11.08 20:09:38 by klempie Reply
  • Watching the replay right now…

    Just watch Bekker the next time… even Rose has better defence…

    This really was Scotland that lost the game… missing 15points plus…

    Just a horrible game of touch-rugby by the World Chumps…

    We’ve got no momentum going into the England game at all…

  • Comment 285, posted at 16.11.08 03:26:09 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • Deserved MOM in Smith on second view… the guy broke the advantage line at will and put in endless big tackles…

    Just saw another snippet of Scotland on attack… Mossie nailing first Scot… ball goes to the winger… and Bekker just jogs behind him not even bothering to dive and haul the guy in, leaving Mossie to have to turn an deal with it… 👿

  • Comment 286, posted at 16.11.08 03:30:02 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • How about Ruan Pienaar side-stepping the Scot when he was suppose to tackle him?

  • Comment 287, posted at 16.11.08 05:15:22 by fyndraai Reply
    Friend of Sharksworld fyndraai
  • @fyndraai (Comment 287) :

    one of the disadvantages of doing commentary during the game. You miss half of it. 🙁 🙂

  • Comment 288, posted at 16.11.08 06:37:51 by KSA Shark © Reply
    KSA Shark ©
  • I must have been asleep for all the things that Smith did right. I barely saw him

  • Comment 289, posted at 16.11.08 09:25:49 by robdylan Reply

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