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Pom press turns up the Heat on SA

Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Springboks on 17 Nov 2008 at 14:05
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Strangely, considering that England succumbed by 14 points to Australia at roughly the same time, South Africa’s pallid performance against Scotland has got the British press sniffing a Twickenham upset this weekend.

Rob Houwing reports for Sport 24 that Certainly, there were few kind words in the broadsheet newspapers for the World Cup champions after they sneaked in 14-10 against Scotland at Murrayfield.

“South Africa were poor … inanely so at times,” said Mark Palmer bluntly in The Times.

In the Daily Telegraph, meanwhile, Rob Wildman wrote that “an inspired Scotland pack showed England that South Africa are beatable on Saturday”.

He said the Scots were “the dominant team and earned more possession and territory thanks to the heroic work of their forwards.

“They matched the Springboks for physicality like Wales had done in another gallant but losing attempt last week.”

Wildman, like other critics, was baffled by wing wizard Bryan Habana’s loss of form.

“Habana endured two embarrassing moments when he clumsily spilt passes and looks far from the confident player who gained rave reviews in France last year.”

The Observer reserved much of its scorn for Bok coach Peter de Villiers. Michael Aylwin wrote: “The eccentric quotes have poured forth, outsiders delighting as De Villiers launches off down ever-weirder avenues of contemplation, the fruits of which will surely soon have a website of their own.

“In South Africa, though, the worry is that his verbal meanderings are matched by a woolly rugby philosophy and a team who do not know their own mind … still less his.”

Perhaps a little more reassuringly for the Boks, who laboured collectively in the front row against Scotland, the Daily Telegraph revealed in a separate piece that England’s formidable loosehead prop, Andrew Sheridan, had a neck injury and that his fitness would “be gauged this week”.

It may also explain to some degree why Sheridan had an unusually tough day at the office against the Wallabies’ limited Al Baxter – an old “bunny” of Os Du Randt’s — in the 28-14 defeat.

What the UK press reports failed to mention, too, was that several key Bok engine-room stalwarts like John Smit and Bakkies Botha have had precious little game-time since recovering from long-term injuries and are only building up to peak performance levels.

Smit’s enforced and ironic return to the hooker’s spot from tighthead early in the Murrayfield Test also did little to ensure decent Springbok continuity.

The papers also neglected, by and large, to laud some Bok players who did stand up to be counted against Scotland and played influential roles in ensuring the game wasn’t actually lost.

Victor Matfield, for one, had one of his most industrious all-round games for a while, Juan Smith played the sort of whole-hearted 80 minutes he was renowned for at the 2007 World Cup, and Adi Jacobs once again demonstrated how his defensive game has developed in leaps and bounds in midfield.

But at least the home press haven’t got universally behind Martin Johnson’s rebuilding job with England: Chris Hewett, rugby correspondent for The Independent, lambasted the former World Cup-winning lock for under-estimating the scrum as an area for attack.

“(The game against Australia) was a match in which a Wallaby front row – yes, a WALLABY front row – used the set piece as a launch-pad for victory: something that had not occurred since Ned Kelly was running amok in his homemade helmet.”


  • “The eccentric quotes have poured forth, outsiders delighting as De Villiers launches off down ever-weirder avenues of contemplation, the fruits of which will surely soon have a website of their own.

    LOL! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 1, posted at 17.11.08 15:29:11 by klempie Reply
  • I’m not feeling very confident about Saturday. 👿

  • Comment 2, posted at 17.11.08 18:39:16 by McLovin Reply
  • For the English 2 wins out of four would be a success. Hope we can deny them.

  • Comment 3, posted at 17.11.08 18:40:30 by McLovin Reply
  • @McLovin (Comment 3) :

    I think we will.

    SH will come away from these tours undefeated.

  • Comment 4, posted at 17.11.08 19:03:18 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • I can’t stand losing to the English..please giys lets not let them beat us..final test of the year..stick it to them.

  • Comment 5, posted at 17.11.08 19:39:06 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply
  • I dont think we will win on saturday. One test too many + we havent been playing to our potential. Go Protea Bokke!!

  • Comment 6, posted at 17.11.08 20:23:26 by wpw Reply
  • Very supportive wes

  • Comment 7, posted at 17.11.08 22:37:42 by PJLD Reply
  • @PJLD (Comment 7) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 8, posted at 18.11.08 07:33:44 by wpw Reply
  • I’m changing my prediction.

    30-20…still to the Poms though.

  • Comment 9, posted at 18.11.08 09:14:08 by klempie Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 9) :

    Please don’t be offended when I show you your avatar after we beat England. 🙂

  • Comment 10, posted at 18.11.08 09:16:59 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) : 😉

  • Comment 11, posted at 18.11.08 09:17:38 by klempie Reply
  • The only SH team to let the side down on these tours may again be Argentina this coming weekend.

    Other than that it will be a clean sweep for the SH over the NH.

  • Comment 12, posted at 18.11.08 09:19:18 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • You obviously dont regard the Pacific Islanders as hailing from the SH.

  • Comment 13, posted at 18.11.08 09:41:54 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 13) : mmmm…aren’t a couple of them in the NH? Samoa would be a close candidate I think. I’ll double check for you.

  • Comment 14, posted at 18.11.08 10:43:28 by klempie Reply
  • Nope. Seems they are all SH nations. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 15, posted at 18.11.08 11:02:09 by klempie Reply
  • I have just been offered a ticket for the test on Saturday. 😀

  • Comment 16, posted at 18.11.08 11:03:10 by McLovin Reply
  • @McLovin (Comment 16) : Shame. 🙁

  • Comment 17, posted at 18.11.08 11:10:34 by klempie Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 17) : I was very apprehensive about taking it. It was from an Englishman. In about 4/5 visits I have never seen the Boks win at Twickenham. 😯 👿

  • Comment 18, posted at 18.11.08 11:18:02 by McLovin Reply
  • @McLovin (Comment 16) : I’ll take it if you don’t want it 🙂

  • Comment 19, posted at 18.11.08 11:18:22 by robdylan Reply
  • @McLovin (Comment 18) :

    Time to change that! ..break the voodoo

  • Comment 20, posted at 18.11.08 11:22:49 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 19) : I’ll put you on the waiting list. 😉

  • Comment 21, posted at 18.11.08 11:25:18 by McLovin Reply
  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 20) : you mean hoodoo? 🙂

  • Comment 22, posted at 18.11.08 11:25:29 by robdylan Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 22) : I think a hoodoo comes from the practice of voodoo. I’ll have to look it up though.

  • Comment 23, posted at 18.11.08 11:27:24 by klempie Reply
  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoodoo_(folk_magic)#Differences_between_voodoo_and_hoodoo

    “Hoodoo and Voodoo are often mistaken for one another. Some believe that the terms may have a common etymology. Simply put, Voodoo is a religion, whereas Hoodoo is a group of magical practices.” I’m not sure what that means but I think Hoodoo would then be the rituals originating from Voodoo beliefs. But this topic is freaking me out a little now. 😮

  • Comment 24, posted at 18.11.08 11:31:49 by klempie Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 14) : how weird is this… I live 14km from the 0 degree line of latitude 🙂

  • Comment 25, posted at 18.11.08 11:32:04 by robdylan Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 24) : yeah, but the expression is to “break your hoodoo”… sa in to get over a certain stumbling block that has tripped you up numerous times in the past.

  • Comment 26, posted at 18.11.08 11:34:15 by robdylan Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 22) :

    hoodoo it is..just break it!

  • Comment 27, posted at 18.11.08 11:36:08 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 25) : Close but no cigar. Not good enough pal! I want you sitting ON the Greenwich Meridian! Never settle for less than perfection.

  • Comment 28, posted at 18.11.08 11:36:13 by klempie Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 26) : No I follow ya. I was just trying to give CSB the benefit of the doubt. To see if his statement could be proved partly correct via association. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 29, posted at 18.11.08 11:37:33 by klempie Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 28) : I would need to move to the little hamlet of Oxsted, then

  • Comment 30, posted at 18.11.08 11:38:58 by robdylan Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 28) : Either that, or we can have the whole world set their clocks forward a second or two to accommodate your 14kms. Would that suit?

  • Comment 31, posted at 18.11.08 11:40:00 by klempie Reply
  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 20) : It’s what I’m hoping for.

  • Comment 32, posted at 18.11.08 11:40:41 by McLovin Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 30) : Nothing wrong with pig. My second favourite animal! Go for it!

  • Comment 33, posted at 18.11.08 11:40:57 by klempie Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 25) : I’m glad nobody has yet pointed out that I don’t know the difference between latitude and longitude 😳

  • Comment 34, posted at 18.11.08 11:44:40 by robdylan Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 29) :

    Thats very nice of you klempie..Thanks!

  • Comment 35, posted at 18.11.08 11:45:19 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : I wasn’t really paying attention. Shoulda kept that to yourself. 😉

  • Comment 36, posted at 18.11.08 11:47:06 by klempie Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 33) : What’s you’re fav?

  • Comment 37, posted at 18.11.08 11:47:07 by McLovin Reply
  • @McLovin (Comment 37) : The platypus. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 38, posted at 18.11.08 11:47:34 by klempie Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 38) : I know, I know. It’s Australian! 🙄 But they are just so damn crazy. :mrgreen: Poisonous too which is a little known fact.

  • Comment 39, posted at 18.11.08 11:49:17 by klempie Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 39) : what, poisonous to eat?

  • Comment 40, posted at 18.11.08 11:55:04 by robdylan Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 38) : Mine’s the lyre bird. Not to eat obviously.

  • Comment 41, posted at 18.11.08 11:59:08 by McLovin Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 40) : Platypus has a spur on the hind foot that delivers a venom capable of causing severe pain to humans. From wiki.

  • Comment 42, posted at 18.11.08 12:01:19 by McLovin Reply
  • Talking kak again I see. Did you all have your say yesterday and now it’s back to being nice and all 😉

  • Comment 43, posted at 18.11.08 12:03:19 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 42) : I dirrent know that. 😯

  • Comment 44, posted at 18.11.08 12:04:19 by McLovin Reply
  • @McLovin (Comment 42) : Only the males though afaik.

  • Comment 45, posted at 18.11.08 12:04:20 by klempie Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 24) : @robdylan (Comment 25) : @McLovin (Comment 42) : You okes have way to much time on your hands…. do any of you have a job for me? 🙄

  • Comment 46, posted at 18.11.08 12:05:15 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 41) : What can lyre birds do? I know they can mimic beeps.

  • Comment 47, posted at 18.11.08 12:05:18 by klempie Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 45) : It are very interesting.

  • Comment 48, posted at 18.11.08 12:05:42 by McLovin Reply
  • @Pokkel (Comment 43) : Rob and I snogged and made up.

  • Comment 49, posted at 18.11.08 12:06:03 by klempie Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 47) : They mimic almost any sound. Saw a clip of one imitating a camera shutter after being photographed quite a bit and also a chain saw. I’m sure there must be some clips on youtube etc.

  • Comment 50, posted at 18.11.08 12:12:43 by McLovin Reply
  • @Pokkel (Comment 46) : I’m supposed to work, but I’ve decided to do as little possible today. 😈

  • Comment 51, posted at 18.11.08 12:13:48 by McLovin Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 49) : gross :mrgreen:

  • Comment 52, posted at 18.11.08 12:15:09 by robdylan Reply
  • @McLovin (Comment 50) : Cool. I think I might get a platypus and a lyre bird now. The pig stays in the fridge.

  • Comment 53, posted at 18.11.08 12:18:22 by klempie Reply
  • Speaking of animals, Mickey Mouse is 80 today. Happy Birthday Mickey!

  • Comment 54, posted at 18.11.08 12:53:56 by McLovin Reply
  • @McLovin (Comment 54) : My gran’s older.

  • Comment 55, posted at 18.11.08 13:01:49 by klempie Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 49) :

    Rob Snog a Bull supporter?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    NEVER!!!!!!!!!!! 😛

  • Comment 56, posted at 18.11.08 13:09:53 by KSA Shark © Reply
    KSA Shark ©
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 56) : thanks for pointing that out 🙂

  • Comment 57, posted at 18.11.08 13:13:36 by robdylan Reply
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 56) : Oh it happened…and he loved it!

  • Comment 58, posted at 18.11.08 13:14:30 by klempie Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 55) : So’s mine. By two years. 😎

  • Comment 59, posted at 18.11.08 13:15:29 by McLovin Reply
  • This is what Stuart Barnes wrote in his Sky piece.

    Thank the rugby heavens for Canada. Not only have they given us Neil Young, Leonard Cohen and Joni Mitchell but also a mediocre international rugby team without whom the Northern Hemisphere would be struggling for a win this autumn.

    The Pacific Islanders like to describe themselves as the Lions from their part of the Pacific but if these engaging men are anything they are the Barbarians in terms of the absence of preparation and their willingness to ‘give it a go’ without worrying excessively about the result (that’s how the Barbarians have been for most of their history although recent turgid matches suggest results have taken on an importance that is entirely misplaced).

    The combination of these touring teams has bailed out the best of Britain and Ireland but the possibility is growing that all of Australia, New Zealand and South Africa will record unblemished tour records.

  • Comment 60, posted at 18.11.08 13:24:12 by McLovin Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 57) :

    notice I didn’t say anything about you snogging a dude. 😳 😆 😉

  • Comment 61, posted at 18.11.08 13:25:31 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 59) : How old are you then?

  • Comment 62, posted at 18.11.08 13:37:22 by klempie Reply
  • @McLovin (Comment 60) : Northern Hemisphere rugby is kak. I mean even the current Bok side can beat them! Except England.

  • Comment 63, posted at 18.11.08 13:39:24 by klempie Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 63) :

    MY!!!!!!!!!!!! what a nice avatar you have. 😛

  • Comment 64, posted at 18.11.08 13:40:49 by KSA Shark © Reply
    KSA Shark ©
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 64) : You’ve lost me bru.

  • Comment 65, posted at 18.11.08 13:43:55 by klempie Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 62) : 12,589.5 days :mrgreen:

  • Comment 66, posted at 18.11.08 14:03:46 by McLovin Reply
  • @klempie (Comment 65) :

    You said the Bok side couldn’t beat England. and then i pointed out that nice sign on your Avatar to you. 😉

  • Comment 67, posted at 18.11.08 14:25:42 by KSA Shark © Reply
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