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Bismarck On Boklash

Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Springboks on 25 Nov 2008 at 08:36
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Bismarck du Plessis says the Springboks’ crushing win against England was the perfect answer to their critics.

Sports Illustrated reports that the 24-year-old hooker was forced to fly home from the tour after damaging a hamstring early on in the match against Scotland at Murrayfield. The Boks went on to claim a 14-10 win but were widely slammed for another below-par performance following their scrappy 20-15 victory against Wales in Cardiff. However, Du Plessis says the players never stopped believing in themselves in the build up to the Twickenham Test, even when others did.

“I hate blaming referees but we weren’t happy with how the new laws were applied in Cardiff and Edinburgh, especially at the breakdowns. The refs were very inconsistent and that disrupted our momentum. All players ask for is consistency … what’s good for the goose should be good for the gander. The referee at Twickenham was a lot better and the guys were able to get going. I thought we played very, very well, and silenced our critics.”

Having left the UK unbeaten for the first time since Nick Mallett’s team in 1997, the Boks will take a lot of confidence into their next assignment – the three-Test series against the British & Irish Lions in June.

“Before the tour, we decided that we wanted to win all three Tests and signal our intentions ahead of the Lions series,” says Du Plessis. “I don’t know how much of an impact these wins will have on next year’s series, because the Boks had a good end-of-year tour in 1996 only to lose the Lions series in 1997. But it has definitely given us a boost.”

The Boks finished the 2008 season playing with a lot more structure and purpose than they did when it began against Wales, which bodes well for the Lions series.

“We always play with structure, but I agree we played with more of it from the match against the Wallabies at Ellis Park onwards,” says Du Plessis, who also claimed ownership of the Bok No 2 jersey in the latter half of the season before getting injured.

“John [Smit] did really well at tighthead against Wales and he has a great future in the position. However, he showed against England that he also still has a great future at hooker – we’ll have to see what happens with the Sharks in next year’s Super 14.”


  • Overrated!!

  • Comment 1, posted at 25.11.08 10:04:20 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 1) : excuse me who is overrated?!

  • Comment 2, posted at 25.11.08 10:24:09 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply
    Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette
  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 2) :


    Only one fish for the day…

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 3, posted at 25.11.08 10:30:13 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 3) : calling Bismarck overated you were bound to hook me 🙂

  • Comment 4, posted at 25.11.08 10:37:04 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply
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  • Bismarck is a monster. Agree with him on the refs. They were horse shit in all 3 matches.

  • Comment 5, posted at 25.11.08 10:39:47 by PaarlBok Reply
  • Monster with little brains unfortunately.

    Hope he gets his head sorted in the off season.

    John is the best hooker in the world.

  • Comment 6, posted at 25.11.08 11:28:59 by MorneN Reply
  • “John [Smit] did really well at tighthead against Wales and he has a great future in the position. However, he showed against England that he also still has a great future at hooker – we’ll have to see what happens with the Sharks in next year’s Super 14.”

    Am I the only one reading a bit of “hidden” comment in that statement?? 😐

  • Comment 7, posted at 25.11.08 11:30:28 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
  • @MorneN (Comment 6) : John is the best tight forward in the world and the best captain there has ever been or ever will be. Amen

  • Comment 8, posted at 25.11.08 11:32:04 by robdylan Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 8) :

    Ssshhhh, not so loud, Brad will get jealous. 😈 😀

  • Comment 9, posted at 25.11.08 11:33:29 by Ollie Reply
  • @Ice (Bébé de Glace) (Comment 7) : Nope saw it but didn’t know what the hell to type.

  • Comment 10, posted at 25.11.08 11:35:17 by PJLD Reply
  • @Ollie (Comment 9) : he he 🙂

  • Comment 11, posted at 25.11.08 11:41:13 by robdylan Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 8) :

    I have never doubted his captaincy.

    But he is still the best hooker in SA and imo, in world rugby.

  • Comment 12, posted at 25.11.08 11:42:24 by MorneN Reply
  • @Ollie (Comment 9) :

    Add RP to the list… 😉

    @PJLD (Comment 10) :

    So we agree? ❓

  • Comment 13, posted at 25.11.08 11:48:04 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
  • @Ollie (Comment 9) :

    Brad had become an orphan since he cannot make it into the starting XV at Saracens. 😉

  • Comment 14, posted at 25.11.08 11:50:12 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 14) : Please don’t tell me Andy Farrell is keeping him out of the team???


  • Comment 15, posted at 25.11.08 11:52:03 by wpw Reply
  • @Ice (Bébé de Glace) (Comment 13) : Correct

  • Comment 16, posted at 25.11.08 11:58:50 by PJLD Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 15) :

    Farrell is also the Captain of the team, so Barritt is going to be a lame duck for the rest of the season IMO.

  • Comment 17, posted at 25.11.08 12:02:23 by KSA Shark © Reply
    KSA Shark ©
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 17) : Unless Farrell gets injured of course.

    What are the chances of a short bald guy running onto the pitch and taking Farrell out?? 😉

  • Comment 18, posted at 25.11.08 12:11:19 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 18) :

    From what I hear the short bald guys in the UK aren’t fast enough to catch Barritt let alone Farrell. 😛

  • Comment 19, posted at 25.11.08 12:17:53 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @MorneN (Comment 6) : Some might disagree with that and call him exceptionally competitive with a University degree.

  • Comment 20, posted at 25.11.08 12:48:20 by Baldrick Reply
  • @Baldrick (Comment 20) :

    Not talking for Morne, but I guess what he is saying is that he should start using his brain… 😉 I agree in that sense…exceptionally competative dont need to be dumb-ass-dont-think-about-the-consequences…

  • Comment 21, posted at 25.11.08 12:53:47 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
  • @Ice (Bébé de Glace) (Comment 21) :

    Spot on Bebe.

  • Comment 22, posted at 25.11.08 13:06:21 by MorneN Reply
  • @MorneN (Comment 6) : I totally disagree, while I never disagree on Jon’s captaincy ability and his loyalty to the Sharks Bissie in my humble opinion is better in that he is excellent in his primary function of scrummaging and throwing (yeah I know he needs to improve a bit there but Jon himself threw two skew balls in Scotland) he is like having another loosie on the field, he steals more ball than our current loosies. Yeah I guess he needs to cool it at times pretty much like Schalch for every good thing he does he gives a penalty away but in the end the good he does makes a difference!

  • Comment 23, posted at 25.11.08 13:24:35 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply
    Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette
  • @Ice (Bébé de Glace) (Comment 21) : the “Monster with little brains unfortunately” – the little brains bit obviously threw me there a bit. Apologies for being presumptuous.

  • Comment 24, posted at 25.11.08 13:25:08 by Baldrick Reply
  • to add to that I have a Kiwi friend and he sais that in NZ they see Bismarck as the best hooker in the world. Not being in NZ myself I do not know how true this is, but I thought it relevant to add to my post.

  • Comment 25, posted at 25.11.08 13:26:46 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply
    Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette
  • and incase I have confused everybody, I mean Bismarck is a better Hooker not Captain 😳

  • Comment 26, posted at 25.11.08 13:28:58 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply
    Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette
  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 23) :


    His scrumming is okay.

    His line-out work not up to standard.

    He isolates himself as a ball carrier.

    His tackling technique is too high (but so are most forwards)

    His technique in carrying the ball is also technically not the best (body position gets turned over).

    Point is, his primary work is lacking.

    He is busy, and yes he gets turn-overs more than most hookers, but not significant enough to cover his faults in his primary position.

    If Bismarck wants to run with the ball and enforce turn-overs he should consider playing as a loosie.

    If he wants to play hooker he should work on his techniques as a hooker which is not up to standard.

    John is viewed as the best line-out thrower in the business.

    His ball carrying game has improved dramatically and in his last 4 games he is in the top 5 for tackling according to another article I read.

  • Comment 27, posted at 25.11.08 13:29:38 by MorneN Reply
  • @Baldrick (Comment 24) :

    Had an ex-provincial hooker tell me Bissie is what they refer to as a “Balle Myne” type of player.

    Try to be flash with ball in hand and usually loses it when he does run or isolates himself but does little to impress in his primary duties.

  • Comment 28, posted at 25.11.08 13:31:17 by MorneN Reply
  • @MorneN (Comment 28) :

    Sorry, was meant for

    @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 25) :

  • Comment 29, posted at 25.11.08 13:32:33 by MorneN Reply
  • @Baldrick (Comment 24) :

    Forgiven… :mrgreen: 😉

  • Comment 30, posted at 25.11.08 13:35:33 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
  • @MorneN (Comment 6) : Bakkies was no better when he started it takes these kind of blood hungry forwards a season or two to work out their anger issues and channel it to smashing rucks….he will get there.

    Not sure i agree with you on the basics – i don’t recall him having a shocker when throwing at Passenger or Double cab – just when hes throwing at the plonkers the sharks call locks

  • Comment 31, posted at 25.11.08 13:39:35 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
    Worcestershire Sauce
  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 31) :

    Absolutely – give him another season or two.

    Point I am really making is right now, Smit is a better hooker if not the best in the world.

  • Comment 32, posted at 25.11.08 13:43:13 by MorneN Reply
  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 31) :

    And you reckon Bakkies IS there and has worked out his anger issues?? 😐 😉 I don’ think SOOOOOO… 😎

  • Comment 33, posted at 25.11.08 13:43:34 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
  • @MorneN (Comment 32) : Yea you might be right. I can’t think of one hooker who offers anywhere near the same in basics and the captaincy is a serious bonus.

    @Ice (Bébé de Glace) (Comment 33) : When he first started he wasn’t savy about it, now at least you have to look hard before you see him bliksem someone.

  • Comment 34, posted at 25.11.08 13:48:57 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
    Worcestershire Sauce
  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 34) :

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 35, posted at 25.11.08 13:53:55 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 34) :

    I can think of a better hooker. His name is Kevin Mealamu. 🙄

  • Comment 36, posted at 25.11.08 14:24:09 by wpw Reply
  • My time is limited on here….and no one wants to talk… 🙄 😉

  • Comment 37, posted at 25.11.08 14:42:10 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
  • 40 more comments then I am 4th!!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 38, posted at 25.11.08 14:44:58 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
  • @Ice (Bébé de Glace) (Comment 37) :

    Its quiet all over.

  • Comment 39, posted at 25.11.08 14:46:32 by MorneN Reply
  • @MorneN (Comment 39) :

    I see you are ‘op jou stukke’ on the dark side… on Voldy i mean

  • Comment 40, posted at 25.11.08 14:50:30 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 40) :

    Okay…wie de hel is Voldy??? 😳

  • Comment 41, posted at 25.11.08 15:01:32 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
  • Love giving them kak over there.

    And its so easy.

  • Comment 42, posted at 25.11.08 15:02:33 by MorneN Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 36) : You kidding right ❓

    He couldn’t hit a barn door with a pan technikon.

  • Comment 43, posted at 25.11.08 15:16:43 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
    Worcestershire Sauce
  • @Ice (Bébé de Glace) (Comment 41) : Keohane.

  • Comment 44, posted at 25.11.08 15:18:42 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
    Worcestershire Sauce
  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 44) :

    Thank you Sous….someone thats willing to answer me… 🙄 😉

  • Comment 45, posted at 25.11.08 15:54:49 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
  • Bismark rocks in the loose but i shit myself everytime he throws in in our half.

  • Comment 46, posted at 25.11.08 15:58:10 by billy Reply
  • @Ice (Bébé de Glace) (Comment 45) : Really depends on the question 😆

    @billy (Comment 46) : Remind me never to watch rugby with you 😆

  • Comment 47, posted at 25.11.08 16:01:57 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
    Worcestershire Sauce
  • Hello vrinne

  • Comment 48, posted at 25.11.08 16:02:12 by robdylan Reply
  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 47) : Im a terrible person to watch sharks games with, i get so moody it like living with a tik addict. Shittings a minor part of the experience.

  • Comment 49, posted at 25.11.08 16:07:09 by billy Reply
  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 47) :

    i am not well known for asking difficult questions, you know.. 🙄 😉

  • Comment 50, posted at 25.11.08 16:16:46 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
  • @billy (Comment 49) : 😯

    @Ice (Bébé de Glace) (Comment 50) : Blonde thingy again eh 😆

  • Comment 51, posted at 25.11.08 16:17:29 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
    Worcestershire Sauce
  • @billy (Comment 46) : Don’t forget he had to come on in the RWC and throw in within his own 22? And he did a fine job of it under enormous pressure.

  • Comment 52, posted at 25.11.08 16:19:46 by Baldrick Reply
  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 51) :

    Nah…I try to keep it as simple as possible…for you okes sake.. 😈

  • Comment 53, posted at 25.11.08 16:24:20 by Ice (Bébé de Glace) Reply
  • @Baldrick (Comment 52) : Very true.

  • Comment 54, posted at 25.11.08 16:26:42 by billy Reply
  • @Ice (Bébé de Glace) (Comment 53) : 😆

    Excellent riposte

  • Comment 55, posted at 25.11.08 16:28:51 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
    Worcestershire Sauce
  • @comment 36 wpw-i guess u think schalk brits is the best hooker too-at voortrekker road,how can mealamu be gud if andrew hore is constantly picked above him?

  • Comment 56, posted at 25.11.08 16:56:03 by Bok-Clyde-Kiwi Reply
  • @Bok-Clyde-Kiwi (Comment 56) : methinks wesley fishes

  • Comment 57, posted at 25.11.08 16:59:50 by PJLD Reply
  • Jys alwee reg claytie. lol

  • Comment 58, posted at 25.11.08 18:46:16 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 58) : teehee

  • Comment 59, posted at 25.11.08 18:50:12 by robdylan Reply
  • So the SA Rugby Awards takes place tonight. I hope Adi gets an award as well as The Beast. Jean is a must for Players Player of the Year.

  • Comment 60, posted at 25.11.08 19:25:11 by wpw Reply

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