Stormers fans expecting one better

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :In the news, Stormers, Super 14 on 9 Jan 2009 at 10:21
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Stormers’ captain Jean de Villiers has admitted that the “greater expectations” of the Stormers in this year’s Super14 are justified.

If the Cape side had scored one more try in last year’s final game against the Lions, which they won 22-13, they would have qualified for the semifinals, according to Stephen Nell of Sport24.

However, the Hurricanes ended up qualifying thanks to a better points difference.

“If we were offered a fifth place at the beginning of last year, we would probably have taken it. But ultimately it was disappointing to finish fifth,” said De Villiers.

“The goal is to grow in what we do. We believe we can take the next step. We have the players and hopefully we get off to a better start than last year.”

Last year the Stormers lost their first three games in the Super14. However, the defeat of 0-22 against the Crusaders was the last one by a Stormers or Western Province side at full strength on their home field.

That home record will come under threat on February 14 when the Stormers kick off their campaign against the Sharks.

John Plumtree’s side will be among the favourites, so the Stormers could hardly have asked for a tougher start.

“Who do you choose to start against? That’s a good game in which to measure yourself. It will be tough throughout the competition,” said De Villiers.

One of the big challenges the Stormers have to overcome is a murderous Australasian tour that takes in five games.

Last year the Stormers got their campaign on track by winning three out of four games on tour. It’s for that reason that they’ll take on the tour with confidence.

Meanwhile, there was good news on Thursday regarding flyhalf Willem de Waal, who injured his hand during training this week.

Stormers spokesperson Frikkie Erasmus said De Waal would be ready to start the Super14.

The Stormers play warm-up games against Saracens at Newlands and Boland in Wellington on 25 and 31 January respectively.

While it’s likely that Peter Grant will remain the first-choice for the No 10 jersey, De Waal’s educated boot provides the Stormers with an interesting strategic option this year.

Stormers coach Rassie Erasmus has demonstrated his ability to vary his tactics as the situation demands.

He can therefore keep opponents guessing with the permutations at flyhalf.


  • The away leg might just prove to be a killer. 👿

  • Comment 1, posted at 09.01.09 10:27:12 by McLovin Reply
  • First up are the Crusaders. Stormers still jet lagged. No win

    Then off to Aus for Tahs & Brumbies. Tough ask to win one of these.

    And then back to middle earth to face Canes & Highlanders. Might be able to knock over the Highlanders BUT it’s the last match of a 5 match tour. Might be having one foot on the plane & low moral, especially if they have lost most/all of the previous matches. Which could easily happen.


  • Comment 2, posted at 09.01.09 10:32:23 by McLovin Reply
  • …and there’s also the Bulls at Roftus. 🙄

  • Comment 3, posted at 09.01.09 10:33:08 by McLovin Reply
  • @McLovin (Comment 2) : Stormers have a SAVAGE draw this year. Sorry, but there’s no chance

  • Comment 4, posted at 09.01.09 10:45:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : yeah lions have a better chance if they can get a decent backline together and get a proper backline coach. although crusaders first up isn’t that daunting. they have lost ali, carter and deans. they gaan a bietjie kak this year. the two top teams for 2009 will be sharks and blues

  • Comment 5, posted at 09.01.09 10:50:35 by try time Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : Have to say even with my most generous predictions 40+ league points seem unlikely for the Stormers.

    However I will be saying my prayers everyday to whichever Stormers friendly god out there who might be listening. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 6, posted at 09.01.09 10:51:41 by McLovin Reply

  • @McLovin (Comment 6) : you mean Luke? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 7, posted at 09.01.09 11:02:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • Sharks finished third last year, and took one win and a draw out of the 5 games. Stormers are going to have to really pull their fingers!

    @try time (Comment 5) : I have to disagree, I see the Blues have lost a number of players (and have a new coach). I see them in the top half, but out of the semis.

  • Comment 8, posted at 09.01.09 11:02:49 by Baldrick Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 7) : 😈 no comment.

  • Comment 9, posted at 09.01.09 11:03:52 by McLovin Reply

  • @Baldrick (Comment 8) : yes all the nz teams have lost players, but the blues seem to have gained the most. they have picked up some decent players.

  • Comment 10, posted at 09.01.09 11:07:58 by try time Reply

  • @Baldrick (Comment 8) : crusaders have a tough road trip, whereas blues have it a little easier. sharks at home is better than coming to durban to play them.

  • Comment 11, posted at 09.01.09 11:10:02 by try time Reply

  • crusaders have to play waratahs, sharks, blues and brumbies away, nevermind a three game trip to sa.

  • Comment 12, posted at 09.01.09 11:13:24 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 10) : IN all, I think it could be a lot more open.

    Reds and Force won’t really feature. Waratahs should do well, but 2 years ago they cam a massive cropper because of injury to Waugh and possibly they don’t have the cojones to handle presure? Brumbies will alwyas be competitive.

    I reckon all the NZ sides are weakened this year. Like the Sharks turned narrow losses into narrow victories in 2007, so I believe narrow NZ wins in the past could turn into narrow losses for them.

  • Comment 13, posted at 09.01.09 11:18:00 by Baldrick Reply

  • @try time (Comment 10) : isn’t Ali Williams back with them?

  • Comment 14, posted at 09.01.09 11:20:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 13) : the loss of Rocky, Vicky and both first-choice props will neuter the Tahs pack

  • Comment 15, posted at 09.01.09 11:20:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 13) : yeah agreed. this year i am battling picking the 3 of the semi finalists. last year was easy. this will all add up to good viewing. a little gut feeling i have this year is the lions could end in the top 6. may even pip bulls.

  • Comment 16, posted at 09.01.09 11:22:00 by try time Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : yeah ali and some other big names have joined blues
    Josh Blackie (from the Highlanders), Justin Collins (Chiefs), Jimmy Gopperth (Hurricanes), Michael Hobbs (Wellington), Tasesa Lavea (Chiefs), Chris Smylie (Highlanders), Isaia Toeava (Hurricanes), Anthony Tuitavake (Highlanders), Ali Williams (Crusaders), Jay Williams (Chiefs) and Paul Williams (Highlanders).

  • Comment 17, posted at 09.01.09 11:26:25 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 16) : Will be interetsing if there are divisions in the Bulls camp and what effect that has on their campaign. An unhappy team doesn’t do well.
    @robdylan (Comment 15) : Very true, although they do still have some outstanding players. But 2007 showed that they can come a big cropper, so anything is possible.

    Prediction time.

    Top 4: Sharks, Crusaders, Stormers, Brumbies/Waratahs. (in no particular order).

    Bottom 4:

    Reds, Highlanders, Cheetahs, Force.

    Middle 6: Bulls, Lions, Chiefs, Waratahs/Brumbies, Blues, Hurricanes (who could even be a dark-horse prediction for top 4 – perhaps again at the expense of Stormers.

  • Comment 18, posted at 09.01.09 11:28:25 by Baldrick Reply

  • @Baldrick (Comment 18) : sharks blues (in that order) then a fight between lions hurricanes waratahs and brumbies. (ok anti stormers and bulls sentiment there).

  • Comment 19, posted at 09.01.09 11:32:37 by try time Reply

  • @McLovin (Comment 1) : Where do you get these things ??? 😆

    To all the stormers fans: Don’t hold your breath… 😈

  • Comment 20, posted at 09.01.09 11:36:16 by blckshrk - PROTEAS Reply

    blackshark - I'm back!
  • @blckshrk – PROTEAS (Comment 20) : Jy soek now kaas meneer 👿

  • Comment 21, posted at 09.01.09 11:47:25 by PJLD Reply
  • Poor Stormers and their fans. Setting themselves up for disappointment. Puke’s presence will see to that on it’s own. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 22, posted at 09.01.09 12:25:27 by klempie Reply

  • @Baldrick (Comment 18) : call me crazy, but this year, it’s for the Sharks to lose

  • Comment 23, posted at 09.01.09 13:59:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 17) : you sure about that? Both Justin Collins and Ice Toeava played for the Blues last year…

  • Comment 24, posted at 09.01.09 14:00:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : I agree. I don’t think the Saders will be nearly as good as last year.

  • Comment 25, posted at 09.01.09 14:01:07 by klempie Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 24) :

    Isaia Toeava (born 15 January 1986 in Moto’otua, Samoa), is a professional rugby union player in New Zealand. Known as “Ice”, he was a shock selection in the All Blacks 2005 end-of-year tour at only 19 years of age and having previously no Super 14 and limited Provincial experience having just played eight games for Auckland, with only a solitary started at first-five against Northland.

    Die klein naam-dief…lees hy Sharksworld?? 😉

  • Comment 26, posted at 09.01.09 14:03:51 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) : it was from iafrica, so i wouldn’t bet money on it.

  • Comment 27, posted at 09.01.09 15:18:26 by try time Reply

  • it is a 365 story that iafrica used. here is the full paragraph.

    While the Blues lost the services of several senior players — like Daniel Braid (moved to the Reds), Nick Evans (Harlequins in England), Troy Flavell (Mitsubishi Dynaboars) and Isa Nacewa (Leinster) — they have a host of noteworthy new signings: Josh Blackie (from the Highlanders), Justin Collins (Chiefs), Jimmy Gopperth (Hurricanes), Michael Hobbs (Wellington), Tasesa Lavea (Chiefs), Chris Smylie (Highlanders), Isaia Toeava (Hurricanes), Anthony Tuitavake (Highlanders), Ali Williams (Crusaders), Jay Williams (Chiefs) and Paul Williams (Highlanders).

  • Comment 28, posted at 09.01.09 15:26:35 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 28) : in fact, Tuitavake played for them last season as well…

  • Comment 29, posted at 09.01.09 15:38:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • well 365 just went down in my rankings

  • Comment 30, posted at 09.01.09 15:43:41 by try time Reply

  • no matter those are big players they have kept and can get them to a home semi.

  • Comment 31, posted at 09.01.09 15:44:43 by try time Reply

  • Write the Stormers off? I think they will make the semis this year. They have enough depth in most positions.

  • Comment 32, posted at 09.01.09 20:29:12 by wpw Reply

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