Injuries force Plum’s hand

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 12 Feb 2009 at 10:21
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The Sharks will go into Saturday’s crunch Super 14 opener against the Stormers with a strong starting 15, boasting 10 Springboks in the lineup. Early season injuries have robbed them of depth, though and the bench is packed with newcomers, certain to enjoy a baptism of fire at Newlands.

John Smit will start at hooker this week, with Bismarck du Plessis deemed fit enough only to play off the bench. Deon Carstens and Jannie du Plessis are the starting props, but the ongoing sternum injury keeping Beast Mtawarira off the park means that young Melusi Mthethwa will earn his first Super 14 cap in the number 17 jersey. It’s a huge gamble, as the youngster has played very little top rugby to date, but one that Plumtree will feel he has no option but to take.

Albert van den Berg’s non-availability due to off-season surgery means another debutant, Alistair Hargreaves, will provide lock cover behind the first-choice pair of Steven Sykes and captain Johann Muller. Keegan Daniel will wear the number 6 shirt, with regular open-side Jacques Botes on the bench. This is again due to the latter returning from injury. Jean Deysel and Ryan Kankowski complete the loose trio.

The backline is at full strength for this encounter and picks itself, with Rory Kockott and Ruan Pienaar operating as the halfbacks. Frans Steyn will enjoy the first of (hopefully) many starts at inside centre this season, with Bok number 13 Adi Jacobs outside him. Odwa Ndungane, JP Pietersen and Stefan Terblanche are the back three, as expected.

The worrying lack of experience on the bench continues into the backs, though, with all three replacements, Ross Cronje, Riaan Swanepoel and Luzuko Vulindlu set to enjoy their first taste of Super Rugby this weekend.

Sharks 22:
15. Stefan Terblanche, 14. Odwa Ndungane, 13. Adrian Jacobs, 12. Francois Steyn, 11. JP Pietersen, 10. Ruan Pienaar, 9. Rory Kockott, 8. Ryan Kankowski, 7. Jean Deysel, 6. Keegan Daniel, 5. Johann Muller (Captain), 4. Steven Sykes, 3. Jannie du Plessis, 2. John Smit, 1. Deon Carstens

16. Bismarck du Plessis, 17. Melusi Mthethwa, 18. Alistair Hargreaves, 19. Jacques Botes, 20. Ross Cronje, 21. Riaan Swanepoel, 22. Luzuko Vulindlu


  • Interesting.

  • Comment 1, posted at 12.02.09 10:25:24 by McLovin Reply
  • kak. i am not sure about keegan starting. but lets hope he takes the opportunity with both hands. otherwise it is a good team.

  • Comment 2, posted at 12.02.09 10:26:00 by try time Reply
  • my worries about keegan is his hot headedness. in a pressure cooker game like this he could be joining schalk on the bench.

  • Comment 3, posted at 12.02.09 10:28:01 by try time Reply
  • Whatever happend to old Waylon? Came out with a bang and seems to have left with a whimper? He and JP both went through a major dip at the same time but JP seems to have been backed long enougth to regain some form.

    Maybe just lucky for JP really good wings are few and far between but centres more available?

  • Comment 4, posted at 12.02.09 10:28:04 by beez Reply
  • @beez (Comment 4) : keep with the news. waylon is recovering from an operation.

  • Comment 5, posted at 12.02.09 10:28:49 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 5) : there’s no need to be a twat about it… ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Comment 6, posted at 12.02.09 10:29:41 by robdylan Reply
  • this side has me quite concerned…. and I’m not really sure why that is.

    I guess it’s just that when you take Beast, Waylon and Albert out of the squad, all of a sudden it doesn’t look all that menacing.

  • Comment 7, posted at 12.02.09 10:30:36 by robdylan Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : Yeah. That was not nice. I am all hurt and upset now.

  • Comment 8, posted at 12.02.09 10:32:31 by beez Reply
  • 2 days, 6 hours, 27 minutes till kick-off.

  • Comment 9, posted at 12.02.09 10:32:38 by McLovin Reply
  • Bring it on! I am so excited for this!!!!!

  • Comment 10, posted at 12.02.09 10:32:49 by billy Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 7) : Though waylon has not looked good for a while now.

  • Comment 11, posted at 12.02.09 10:33:11 by beez Reply
  • So much for winning it in the last 10 minutes – we don’t seem to have much on the bench there…

    We have to go at the stormers all out and hope that when the youngsters have to come in- they will have something to defend.

    Very interesting Saturday ahead of us – I’m loving it!!!

  • Comment 12, posted at 12.02.09 10:34:01 by blackshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : you spend tireless hours updating us with all the rugby news and no-one reads it. its heart breaking. ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜† and am i not a twat.

  • Comment 13, posted at 12.02.09 10:35:15 by try time Reply
  • Rob, great piece, fact base as usual, must ad, great minds think alike, but at the end, BLACK & WHITE. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. GO SHARKS !!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 14, posted at 12.02.09 10:38:05 by Charlie Reply
  • Great front row. (Plum listened to me)
    Bit thin at lock, only Muller world class
    Strange loosie combo, Deysel 2nd year only and Keegan… Rate him but this is a toughie.

    Bunch of new combo’s in the backline…

    Looks a great Currie Cup side this!

  • Comment 15, posted at 12.02.09 10:38:48 by MorneN Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 7) :

    It has you concerned because like me they don’t seem to be as menacing in the donkey department and monsters at the breakdown with this team – which to me is their strength.

  • Comment 16, posted at 12.02.09 10:40:48 by MorneN Reply
  • Oh and there is very little coming off the bench apart from Bissie.

  • Comment 17, posted at 12.02.09 10:41:33 by MorneN Reply
  • You guys are definately missing Butch/Michelak, Barritt and dare I say, even an experienced Mentz on the bench?

  • Comment 18, posted at 12.02.09 10:42:24 by MorneN Reply
  • @blackshark (Comment 12) : yeah the benches are evens. i never thought the sharks depth was this shallow. good thing though players are coming back from injury so we should be back to full strength before we leave.

  • Comment 19, posted at 12.02.09 10:43:29 by try time Reply
  • @MorneN (Comment 17) : You like, slow down, there’s a surprise on it’s way… ๐Ÿ™„

  • Comment 20, posted at 12.02.09 10:44:00 by Charlie Reply
  • HAKUNA MATATA :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 21, posted at 12.02.09 10:45:14 by Charlie Reply
  • @Charlie (Comment 20) :

    I love surprises!

  • Comment 22, posted at 12.02.09 10:45:34 by MorneN Reply
  • yes as much as i like riaan, barritt is a huge loss. as for flyhalf, we should be ok. we aren’t the only team in the s14 that is shallow at 10. blues, crusaders, stormers, bulls, lions, cheetahs all have a shortage. it may be like just rugby, last man standing at ten wins the trophy.

  • Comment 23, posted at 12.02.09 10:46:21 by try time Reply
  • @Charlie (Comment 20) : you mean Zuks?

  • Comment 24, posted at 12.02.09 10:46:41 by robdylan Reply
  • @MorneN (Comment 17) : riaan is underrated, watch him surprise this year.

  • Comment 25, posted at 12.02.09 10:47:10 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 19) :

    We’re not really shallow- but depth can only take you so far…we just have too many players out…but the good news is most of them are on their way back…as opposed to being on the way out.

    We’ve got this game and the Lions next- I’ll take the injuries now THANK YOU.

    Time for the kids to die for that Black & White! We’ll be fine… ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Comment 26, posted at 12.02.09 10:47:41 by blackshark Reply
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  • melusi did well in the warm up. stormers props are only a tad stronger than the bulls 3rd team, so he should be able to handle.

  • Comment 27, posted at 12.02.09 10:48:35 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 25) :

    WIll keep an eye on him.

  • Comment 28, posted at 12.02.09 10:49:22 by MorneN Reply
  • I’m not really sure why I was expecting the backline reserve bench to look any different to this… But in the Currie Cup final, our backline reserves were Rory, Brad and Waylon… We’ve lost about 100 Super caps there.

    I guess I was expecting Jordaan to get the nod ahead of Zuks, because at least he has played some Currie Cup… still, he’s also untested at this level. Stormers definitely have the upper hand here… they’ve got 100 and plenty Bok caps on the bench, for f*cks sakes…

  • Comment 29, posted at 12.02.09 10:49:37 by robdylan Reply
  • @try time (Comment 25) : GO ELVIS ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 30, posted at 12.02.09 10:49:54 by Charlie Reply
  • @MorneN (Comment 22) : But not this one ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • Comment 31, posted at 12.02.09 10:50:32 by Charlie Reply
  • @blackshark (Comment 26) : oh no doubts, that is what i was trying to say. rather have fresh guys going to nz/aus than injured guys staying home.

  • Comment 32, posted at 12.02.09 10:51:15 by try time Reply
  • Rob what’s your prediction?

  • Comment 33, posted at 12.02.09 10:51:24 by MorneN Reply
  • @try time (Comment 27) : I am glad that he’s emerging as a talent… had my eye on him right from the start. He has very good ruck technique and made some technically brilliant cleans last year. Still, you can’t really compare him to Beast and argue that we aren’t losing something, though… The Stormers also have a youngster on the bench in Blaauw, but he’s not as raw as Barra is.

    Given that neither Jannie nor Deon can be anywhere NEAR match fit at this stage, I reckon Rassie may just be right. Injuries have neutered the SHarks front row heading into this game.

    Oh – and I hate to say “I told you so”, but I did…

  • Comment 34, posted at 12.02.09 10:52:40 by robdylan Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 29) : my thoughts exactly. jordaan offers a little more. but then zuks can play centre so that is what probably got him the nod.

  • Comment 35, posted at 12.02.09 10:52:43 by try time Reply
  • Oh my word but you guys have a cack bench. I would be seriously worried if I were a Sharks supporter…

  • Comment 36, posted at 12.02.09 10:55:00 by wpw Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : but even beast had to have a first s14 game. didn’t beast make his mark from a similar situation. didn’t deon get injured opening the door. so lets hope he can prove to be the sequel. beast resurrected.

  • Comment 37, posted at 12.02.09 10:55:19 by try time Reply
  • @MorneN (Comment 33) : too close to call.

    Look Morras, one thing that did start to emerge last year is that the Sharks team has a pretty much unshakable belief in their own abilities. You will call it arrogance, but I reckon that having the balls to BELIEVE you’re going to win is a huge motivating factor. Plum reckons that a side has to go out and do something special to beat the Sharks and I think he’s right. There is a combination of a structured game there, as well as deadly gamebreakers who can swing a match with a moment of individual brilliance.

    Long-winded way of saying that I think we will still take this, but not by much.

  • Comment 38, posted at 12.02.09 10:55:30 by robdylan Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : the stormers have had an extra three weeks of no rugby, so there rustiness will even things out.

  • Comment 39, posted at 12.02.09 10:56:57 by try time Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 29) :

    Raw talent vs Experience (bordering on retirement)…should be an interesting match up when the bench comes into play…

  • Comment 40, posted at 12.02.09 10:57:49 by blackshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 38) : yeah just like the stormers players have the stormers players each believe they are the team. it has been the stormers curse for a decade now.

  • Comment 41, posted at 12.02.09 10:58:17 by try time Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 29) : oh and don’t the sharks prefer being underdogs

  • Comment 42, posted at 12.02.09 10:59:04 by try time Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 36) :

    You’ll be surprised…

  • Comment 43, posted at 12.02.09 10:59:06 by blackshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 38) :

    Individual brilliance in such close games are rare.

    If the Sharks are going to take this, they will have to hit early and hit hard.

    If they allow the Stormers and lead of any sorts early in the game I fear those game-breakers might have brain implosions.

    I was worried if Rassie was going to start with Watson because the balance of the loosies just did not look right, he did not – I think that applies now to the Sharks.

    Still the better tight 5, but it is all how the backs control this game.

    And I am unconvinced Ruan and Steyn has the tactical acumen to do this…

  • Comment 44, posted at 12.02.09 10:59:52 by MorneN Reply
  • this has to be the most evenly matched contest this weekend. this game is impossible to predict. it is going to be something as simple as a knock on that will win or lose this game.

  • Comment 45, posted at 12.02.09 11:00:35 by try time Reply
  • a neutral pary should put his money on a draw.

  • Comment 46, posted at 12.02.09 11:01:38 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 42) :

    I prefer being underdogs too…but it’s hard to keep that label when the team is doing well… ๐Ÿ˜

    Even with this youthful team…my “arrogance” is in abundance… ๐Ÿ™‚

    Okay- I’m off to do some work now- play nicely.
    Trying to get everything done now so I’ll have very little to do tomorrow… let the games begin!!!

  • Comment 47, posted at 12.02.09 11:02:29 by blackshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 38) : hey and i am the twat here not you so i get to call people morrases. you have to be neutral. ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 48, posted at 12.02.09 11:03:03 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 46) :

    A draw will be great for both teams but mainly for SA too!

  • Comment 49, posted at 12.02.09 11:03:21 by MorneN Reply
  • @MorneN (Comment 44) :

    Are you convinced your username is MorneN?

  • Comment 50, posted at 12.02.09 11:03:37 by blackshark Reply
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  • Replacements:
    16. Bismarck du Plessis, 17. Melusi Mthethwa, 18. Alistair Hargreaves, 19. Jacques Botes, 20. Ross Cronje, 21. Riaan Swanepoel, 22. Luzuko Vulindlu

    Besides Botes and Bismarck I don’t see any other players who have played S14 before… well maybe Beanpole Hargreaves…

    Hargreaves is to the Sharks what Rob Linde was to WP. ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

  • Comment 51, posted at 12.02.09 11:04:02 by wpw Reply
  • see alistar is still 10kg lighter than sykes and muller, a little bit worrying,not to happy about the bench either ๐Ÿ˜•

  • Comment 52, posted at 12.02.09 11:06:10 by willa Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 51) : no he hasnt played n super game

  • Comment 53, posted at 12.02.09 11:08:05 by willa Reply
  • @blackshark (Comment 50) :

    As much as I am convinced Steyn has no tactical acumen.

    Ruan is still unproven so the jury is out.

  • Comment 54, posted at 12.02.09 11:09:55 by MorneN Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 51) : what everyone is forgetting though is that is the same as a cc game because it is two sa teams. the big difference between cc and s14 is the travel and the duration. so lack of s14 experience isn’t bothering me yet.

  • Comment 55, posted at 12.02.09 11:12:17 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 45) : Agree this is a hard game to call….not my first choice of game for the ‘Last man standing’ competition

  • Comment 56, posted at 12.02.09 11:16:00 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I did it for the Stormers so here is the tip for the Sharks…

    Keep it tight, attack channels 1 and 2 religiously as the Stormers are weak at the breakdown and their forwards lazy.

    Ruan and Steyn should look to put grubbers through the Grant, JDV and Bobo channels as they turn slower than milk and the Stormers back three with Koster is inexperienced as a combo with Chavanga having the worst hands I have seen in a wing in many a year.

    Avoind going too wide too quickly as the Stormers are quite organised on first line defense and you will just play away from your strength which should be close-in contact around the fringes.

    Run at Burger as early as possible of phases to tie him up, with him taken out of the game at rucks being tied up you will have a field day in the tight loose.

  • Comment 57, posted at 12.02.09 11:17:27 by MorneN Reply
  • @willa (Comment 52) : not really. a team usually has to different types of locks. one big and one agile. look at matfield and bakkies or johan and albert. so size doesn’t really concern me. hargreaves needs to prove his worth in the lineouts and the loose and that is where i have a little concern.

  • Comment 58, posted at 12.02.09 11:17:42 by try time Reply
  • @MorneN (Comment 57) : i’ll add to that, tackle schalk hard when he goes on one of his selfish runs. he is prone to coughing up ball at the breakdown.

  • Comment 59, posted at 12.02.09 11:19:20 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 58) : i suppose ur right, u were at the warm up??????how was nr 22. Luzuko Vulindlu ?????

  • Comment 60, posted at 12.02.09 11:21:04 by willa Reply
  • i would be happy with a 4 try draw.

  • Comment 61, posted at 12.02.09 11:21:40 by try time Reply
  • @willa (Comment 60) : mmm. defence good. shocking hands. the positive though is he hopefully spent the last week catching balls.

  • Comment 62, posted at 12.02.09 11:23:13 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 62) : it is easier to teach some to catch a ball than to tackle.

  • Comment 63, posted at 12.02.09 11:24:18 by try time Reply
  • hey beez come back. i was only messing with you.

  • Comment 64, posted at 12.02.09 11:25:49 by try time Reply
  • @MorneN (Comment 44) : Daniel is going to play out of his skin. Botes looked tired last year… let him find his form coming off the bench.

  • Comment 65, posted at 12.02.09 11:27:58 by robdylan Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 65) : damn well should have been. top scorer for the sharks and top defender. the guy was a machine. very few guys are top scorers and top the tackle count.

  • Comment 66, posted at 12.02.09 11:30:04 by try time Reply
  • Already sleeping with my match tickets underneath my pillow… ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 67, posted at 12.02.09 11:30:34 by Charlie Reply
  • @Charlie (Comment 67) : don’t do that you’ll get drool all over them.

  • Comment 68, posted at 12.02.09 11:38:15 by try time Reply
  • Ai ai yaai… Stormers to take this I’m afraid…

    16. Bismarck du Plessis- why play him if he’s injured…

    17. Melusi Mthethwa- too small for S14 rugby

    18. Alistair Hargreaves- CC player at best

    19. Jacques Botes- if he’s injured why play him…

    20 Ross Cronje- not sure

    21. Riaan Swanepoel- not sure

    22. Luzuko Vulindlu- not sure, got a bit of size though

  • Comment 69, posted at 12.02.09 11:39:07 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • @try time (Comment 64) : ja – nice work.

    DON’T MESS WITH PEOPLE YOU DON’T KNOW… it’s in the rules.

  • Comment 70, posted at 12.02.09 11:42:26 by robdylan Reply
  • @Charlie (Comment 67) : i also do sh1t like that, sleep with my sharks jersey on my pillow the night before, the last 3 years i stop shaving in jan until the sharks loose,this year im not shaving until the end, hair or beard(this time i started in dec)

  • Comment 71, posted at 12.02.09 11:45:51 by willa Reply
  • @try time (Comment 66) : Keegan Daniel was the top scorer, not JB

  • Comment 72, posted at 12.02.09 11:46:06 by robdylan Reply
  • 18. Alistair Hargreaves- CC player at best

    โ— I agree โ—

  • Comment 73, posted at 12.02.09 11:46:16 by PJLD(Sharks supporters are all fairweather bandwagon jumpers) Reply
  • @PJLD(Sharks supporters are all fairweather bandwagon jumpers) (Comment 73) : well, his coach doesn’t think so… I guess we’ll all know soon.

  • Comment 74, posted at 12.02.09 11:54:21 by robdylan Reply
  • did anyone in jhb feel the earthquake this morning?

  • Comment 75, posted at 12.02.09 12:06:54 by willa Reply
  • The Stormers should take this one.

    The Sharks bench is gonna cost them big time!!! ๐Ÿ˜€

  • Comment 76, posted at 12.02.09 12:08:29 by wpw Reply
  • @willa (Comment 75) :

    More ATM bombs?

  • Comment 77, posted at 12.02.09 12:12:47 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 77) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 78, posted at 12.02.09 12:19:40 by wpw Reply
  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 69) :

    JB and B is are not injured…they’ve just recovered from injuries and they have to start somewhere…the bench seems to be the right place…

    All this talk about lack of match fitness doesn’t phase me…i’s the beginning of the comp…all the teams are a bit undercooked. These guys have been working hard this past week…they should be fine and full of running.

    @wpw (Comment 76) :

    Your arrogance showing it’s ugly head…so late?

  • Comment 79, posted at 12.02.09 12:24:35 by blackshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 72) : for the full 2008 season?

  • Comment 80, posted at 12.02.09 12:25:19 by try time Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 72) : and i doubt his defensive record was as impressive

  • Comment 81, posted at 12.02.09 12:26:17 by try time Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 72) :

    I think JB was the top scorer in the previous edition…but anyway he’s always there on attack and defense…he deserves a bit of a timeout…especially during the “warm up games”… ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • Comment 82, posted at 12.02.09 12:26:59 by blackshark Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 80) : no – I meant for the Currie Cup

  • Comment 83, posted at 12.02.09 12:27:12 by robdylan Reply
  • @try time (Comment 80) : keegan was two shy.

  • Comment 84, posted at 12.02.09 12:28:39 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 81) : look, I’m not for a moment trying to say that Keegan is a better all-round player than JB… just that JB looked tired, so why not let Keegan get some gametime ahead of him?

  • Comment 85, posted at 12.02.09 12:31:07 by robdylan Reply
  • Good morning everyone!

  • Comment 86, posted at 12.02.09 12:34:40 by Nessa Reply
  • Can’t wait for the rugby. Am so tired of cricket and football!

  • Comment 87, posted at 12.02.09 12:35:37 by Nessa Reply
  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 69) : 16-they aren’t injured they are coming back from. they haven’t had time to get up to fitness. jacques played 20 minutes in the warm up game last week but was a little sluggish. so should be firing soon. mthethwa may be small, but not much smaller than deon and he plays well. Mthethwa (179cm 109kg) deon (183cm 116kg). look i wouldn’t start with him, but he is worth a chance.

    ross is suspect, but plum must see something in the guy that he has leapfrogged charl.

  • Comment 88, posted at 12.02.09 12:40:12 by try time Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 85) : i said i was worried about his short fuse. it started rearing its head near the end again of the cc. i like the guy’s enthusiasm and ability, but he likes the odd rumble and we cannot afford a yellow tomorrow.

  • Comment 89, posted at 12.02.09 12:42:18 by try time Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 85) : but as jb isn’t up to speed yet, kd is the right choice. doesn’t mean i cannot worry.

  • Comment 90, posted at 12.02.09 12:44:20 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 89) : or on saturday ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 91, posted at 12.02.09 12:44:51 by try time Reply
  • @Nessa (Comment 87) : hello v. missed you. all these guys fight back.

  • Comment 92, posted at 12.02.09 12:45:27 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 92) : Geez – don’t I feel loved!!!

  • Comment 93, posted at 12.02.09 12:49:06 by Nessa Reply
  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 77) : dont think so, had one a while back,just two blocks away,and this was much bigger!!!!!!

  • Comment 94, posted at 12.02.09 12:51:29 by willa Reply
  • @Nessa (Comment 93) : take that up with your husband. maybe he is saving it for saturday. although you would be the ideal wife to have. for most men it is a choice between rugby or scoring brownie points with the missus. with you its rugby and you score brownie points.

  • Comment 95, posted at 12.02.09 12:51:31 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 95) : yeah i would love a wife whose ideal valentines is watching rugby all day and takeout.

  • Comment 96, posted at 12.02.09 12:53:52 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 95) : Like that one TT. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Must say I have really missed chatting on the site. For some or other reason they haven’t blocked it today – not too sure why. Thought I would pop on quickly and see what you are all up to. I see nothing changes.

  • Comment 97, posted at 12.02.09 12:53:57 by Nessa Reply
  • @try time (Comment 96) : mine is already busting my balletjies cos i told her we are married and our anniversary replaces valentines.

  • Comment 98, posted at 12.02.09 12:55:05 by try time Reply
  • @Nessa (Comment 93) :

    Hi Ness!! Good to see you again!! Same here! Cannot wait!! ๐Ÿ˜€

  • Comment 99, posted at 12.02.09 12:55:10 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
  • @try time (Comment 95) : im in such deep crap already, no point in trying to score brownie points, wont get me out of trouble, might aswell just dig a deeper hole

  • Comment 100, posted at 12.02.09 12:56:27 by willa Reply
  • Hi Ice – love your pic! Very snazzy.

    Well, off to get some lunch, back soon.

  • Comment 101, posted at 12.02.09 12:57:17 by Nessa Reply
  • @Nessa (Comment 101) : thats nice you finally get on then decide to disappear.

  • Comment 102, posted at 12.02.09 13:03:23 by try time Reply
  • @Nessa (Comment 101) : hi Ness. Missed you!

  • Comment 103, posted at 12.02.09 13:05:15 by robdylan Reply
  • @willa (Comment 100) : yeah thats how i work. if i am in shit already i vent out all my problems i have with her out, wait 3 days and then talk to her again. when you are in shit might as well get it all at once. rather than stepping back into it every second day.

  • Comment 104, posted at 12.02.09 13:05:31 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 104) : remind me never to call TT’s Relationship Advice Hotline ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Comment 105, posted at 12.02.09 13:08:13 by robdylan Reply
  • @willa (Comment 100) : so you can imagine my household at the moment with me saying i am watching rugby all saturday and there is no valentines dinner. i say hello to her when she gets home say goodbye when i leave and get the odd grunt in between. it is actually strange getting to listen to the tv for a change.

  • Comment 106, posted at 12.02.09 13:08:17 by try time Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 105) : it is obvious though you get to do what you want. you can do rugby all day every day.

  • Comment 107, posted at 12.02.09 13:09:56 by try time Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 105) : you must have a good credit card. ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 108, posted at 12.02.09 13:10:47 by try time Reply
  • Valentine’s day is a scam. ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

  • Comment 109, posted at 12.02.09 13:11:37 by McLovin Reply
  • @try time (Comment 106) : in saying this, i don’t remember doing more kitchen work ever.

  • Comment 110, posted at 12.02.09 13:12:22 by try time Reply
  • @McLovin (Comment 109) : damn right, created by divorce lawyers and hallmark.

  • Comment 111, posted at 12.02.09 13:13:02 by try time Reply
  • I see all the Stormers have disappeared…except McLovin… ๐Ÿ˜›

  • Comment 112, posted at 12.02.09 13:19:07 by blackshark Reply
    blackshark - I'm back!
  • @blackshark (Comment 112) : out buying tissues. speaking of which i better stock up on my whiskey before the R3.30 gets added on.

  • Comment 113, posted at 12.02.09 13:20:43 by try time Reply
  • @blackshark (Comment 112) :

    You’d be so lucky…

  • Comment 114, posted at 12.02.09 13:26:04 by MorneN Reply
  • @try time (Comment 106) : i planned a romantic evening with candles and mc donnalds, beer and red wine,she always says ‘we have to try new things’ so i decided on a 3some, me, her and the tv!!!! ๐Ÿ˜€

  • Comment 115, posted at 12.02.09 13:29:03 by willa Reply
  • @try time (Comment 113) :

    That’s just for the tax…I’m sure the retailers will add more for their own profit…

    Beer is up 7 cents per 340ml can …good thing i don’t drink from cans then… ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 116, posted at 12.02.09 13:29:28 by blackshark Reply
    blackshark - I'm back!
  • @try time (Comment 111) : and florists. ๐Ÿ‘ฟ

  • Comment 117, posted at 12.02.09 13:31:02 by McLovin Reply
  • @MorneN (Comment 114) :

    Ah damn! ๐Ÿ‘ฟ

  • Comment 118, posted at 12.02.09 13:31:18 by blackshark Reply
    blackshark - I'm back!
  • @blackshark (Comment 112) : Been way to entertaining the last week or so. Can’t tear myself away.

  • Comment 119, posted at 12.02.09 13:32:06 by McLovin Reply
  • @blackshark (Comment 118) :

    I was just preparing something for you poor Sharks, its on the main page.

  • Comment 120, posted at 12.02.09 13:33:21 by MorneN Reply
  • Go STORMERS!!!! :mrgreen: ๐Ÿ˜ˆ ๐Ÿ˜Ž

  • Comment 121, posted at 12.02.09 13:34:09 by wpw Reply
  • @willa (Comment 115) : you have already given in. but i like your thinking. ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 122, posted at 12.02.09 13:38:57 by try time Reply
  • @blackshark (Comment 116) : yeah quarts are the way to go. i always get laughed at when i have guests around cos i serve in quarts. it definately isn’t a white thing. ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 123, posted at 12.02.09 13:48:40 by try time Reply
  • @McLovin (Comment 117) : i tried the line, “why do you want flowers, they die? I want our relationship to last.” i bought her flowers in the end. ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 124, posted at 12.02.09 13:50:31 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 123) :

    Ha ha ha quarts…those remind me of my university days…but now and then I bump into them if I venture into the township… ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 125, posted at 12.02.09 13:54:27 by blackshark Reply
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  • AG NO!! I stuffed up my pick in the LMS comp…I did not read what the comp was all about!! ๐Ÿ‘ฟ

  • Comment 126, posted at 12.02.09 13:57:55 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
  • @Ice (you can leave your hat on!) (Comment 126) : maybe if you ask Rob nicely he can reset it for you…since no ball has been kicked yet… ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 127, posted at 12.02.09 14:11:25 by blackshark Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 123) :

    ‘Tallies are big in Aus’…

  • Comment 128, posted at 12.02.09 14:15:00 by bryce_in_oz Reply
  • @blackshark (Comment 127) :

    Ag ROB – pleaseeee…it was an honest mistake… ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

  • Comment 129, posted at 12.02.09 14:30:44 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
  • @blackshark (Comment 125) : @bryce_in_oz (Comment 128) : yeah nothing like cracking open a quart and sharing with mates. very social drink. unlike cans where you cling onto your can til you are finished like a selfish person.

  • Comment 130, posted at 12.02.09 14:35:20 by try time Reply
  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 128) : except in oz where they cling on their tallies and share a keg.

  • Comment 131, posted at 12.02.09 14:36:17 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 130) : @try time (Comment 131) : ๐Ÿ˜†

  • Comment 132, posted at 12.02.09 14:41:29 by blackshark Reply
    blackshark - I'm back!
  • As you Stormers supporters are right on the money…the Sharks look terrible….would you please convey that to your team in the strongest possible terms….and ask the Cape media to join in.

    The Sharks don’t stand a chance ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • Comment 133, posted at 12.02.09 14:59:40 by Dive Pass Reply
    Dive Pass
  • @Dive Pass (Comment 133) : the Cape media aren’t allowed to speak to the team… duh! ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Comment 134, posted at 12.02.09 15:34:44 by robdylan Reply
  • You want to tell me the Sharks do not have better cover than Luzuko at wing?

    I seriously hope for your sake you do not get any injuries…players like Luzuko can cost you close games (where a up to Standard wing would score a winning try, etc) and a few log points here and there…

  • Comment 135, posted at 12.02.09 16:49:44 by Hmmm Reply
  • I heard Melusi did well the other day and I donโ€™t there will be too many concernsโ€ฆ
    Even if he does have a tough time (which I doubt he would against the Stormers front row as I cannot recall any team ever having a tough time against that front row)โ€ฆthey can always move Smit over to the side and bring Bizzy in at 2โ€ฆ

  • Comment 136, posted at 12.02.09 16:51:16 by Hmmm Reply
  • @Hmmm (Comment 135) : have you even seen Luzuko Vulindlu play?

  • Comment 137, posted at 12.02.09 17:04:48 by robdylan Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 137) :

    Yeh a bit on an amateur home video…blackshart disagreed with my friend (and some others) that said that he was pretty much a waste of space…so when he was up here he showed me a few clips on his cam…have to agree he was not at all good (game me very worrying back flashes to Benjamin in last yearโ€™s comp)…but think waste of space is marginally harsh…and also mentioned he might have had nerves and reminded them of Mortlock as his atrocious first test vs Arg which to some deal thanks to him Aus lost (at home)…and the next test he was MOM…
    But on current facts…have to say…he def could cost you close games if does not up his game by SOME WAY…now the LIONS were never in for the title (did I really need to tell you that lol)…but they could have been a few places higher had Benjamin just caught a few balls and fell or given 5 steps and fallen…
    Sharks/Brumbies/Force should all have been 3 points the other way…Chiefs (I think) 4th try bonus…etc…so he cost the LIONS at least 10/11 log points…which would have put them in the top half not?

  • Comment 138, posted at 12.02.09 17:27:58 by Hmmm Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 137) :

    Oh why you ask…you trying to say I just mouth off cozz I can???

  • Comment 139, posted at 12.02.09 17:29:16 by Hmmm Reply
  • I just hope for the Sharks sake they never have to go to the bench….(except fr Botes)

  • Comment 140, posted at 14.02.09 16:31:42 by Hmmm Reply

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