The ghost of try time

Deja Vu

Written by cheers had fun (The ghost of try time)

Posted in :Admin, Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 15 Feb 2009 at 21:12

The Sharks-Stormers game ended just as it was predicted it would, with the Sharks running out victors. Although the Stormers were the better team for large parts of the game, the Sharks’ higher fitness levels gave them the edge over their counterparts. Surprising as Rassie was bragging about the three extra weeks he had to prepare his team. Although the victory was the perfect start to the Sharks’ season, some worrying signs are starting to appear.

With the departure of Dick Muir and the success of the Sharks in the Currie Cup, it was surprising to see the same errors creep into the team that hindered them last year. The first concern was the captaincy. With the number of “leaders” in the team, it was surprising to see no clear leadership. Johan Muller was disappointing in his leaderhip and it looked at times that the only person remaining calm was the shunned John Smit. Johan Muller was quick to complain about the Stormers illegal tactics, yet he was the culprit of a large number of the Sharks’ turnovers. Both he and Frans Steyn had the inability to stay on their feet at the breakdown and this lead to the Sharks being on the back foot for most the first half. As John Plumtree selected Johan over Smit as captain, he needs to sit down with Johan and sort out his poor leadership. How can the team be expected to respect a Captain when he is the reason for them losing hard earned ball?

The next area of concern was the number of missed tackles. During last year’s Super 14 the Sharks made the exact same errors as they are a year later. They are rightfully chasing the limitless up and unders being delivered from Stefan, but no-one is successfully stopping the catcher. Instead they are all running past him and leaving a now reduced line of defence to cover for their mistakes. Either they need to send one player up to try and regain the ball or they must stagger the guys that are chasing. That way allowing the second chaser the chance at bringing the player down, when the first chaser has missed. But the current wall of three is not working as Tonderai waltzed right past them. Or something quite revolutionary, tell Stefan to halve the amount of balls he is kicking away.

On the subject of Stefan, lets look at his short coming. He is excellent when it comes to covering the rear, but he is proving to be a liabilty on attack. Whenever he makes a break he has a tendency of wasting the try potential by either not passing to a faster player and getting caught with it, or losing the ball with a pointless kick. He shouldn’t be replaced in the team, but someone needs to teach the old dog new tricks if he has any ambitions of wearing a Bok Jersey.

Frans Steyn is the new inside centre and he is set to be there for the full season. Although their are millions of views on this, the problem isn’t going away. With Frans starting, their is no point in putting Adi on the field until things open up. Adi doesn’t get the ball he needs from Frans so is rendered useless. If Frans is instructed to play a tight gameplan by the coaches, why is Adi put on the field as a defender when they have better defenders on the bench? They need to have the right players on the field for the game plans chosen. When an expansive, high speed game is needed, then Keegan and Adi need to be on the field, if a tight physical game is required then Jacques and Riaan should be on the park. It is a simple case of horses for courses.

With the Lions up this weekend, the Sharks front row needs to be looked at. The Lions pushed the Cheetahs forward pack easily on Friday, yet our guys battled against a supposed inferior forward pack. Maybe there is some truth to Rassie’s utterances this week when he said the Sharks forwards are hiding injuries. If this is the case the Sharks need to re-look at their gameplan. And while on the topic of the front row, the Du Plessis’ need to be told to calm down. In the last six months they have started to get a little dirty. The Sharks don’t need them (or any other players) to lose them a vital game through pointless ill-discipline.

The final concern is the Sharks refusal to go for the throat when they are ahead. On Saturday the Sharks sat back with 20 minutes on the clock instead of having a go for the bonus point. It would be thought that after last years failure to get bonus points had cost the team a valuable home final, they would have learnt their mistake.

This article is not here to bring down the team, it is rather here to remind the players that they have weaknesses and if some people are noticing them, you can be sure the opposition coaches have it penned in their note books. Although the Sharks have only played one game and it was going to be scrappy, it is better to look at the weaknesses now than complain about them when they’ve thrown the Super 14 trophy away for the third year in a row. The Super 14 trophy needs to spend a year in the Sharks trophy cabinet, and this year is the best chance they have. So looking at obvious weaknesses with the aim to repair them can only help the team. Go Sharks, give the trophy a year long holiday in Durban, it just might want to stay.


  • Not too sure how much to read into this game? First game of the season and a local derby (always pretty scrappy affairs). However I agree the Stormers runners were making a mockery of the Sharks defence. Also for a qualified doctor yes he far too tempramental gave the Stormers an extra 10 yards when on attack with the Sharks defending a 5 point lead 😡 . Or was that when Grant scored his try? However in the end we won!!I am sure they have time to sort out these problems as players get used to one another or new positions. I didn’t get to see who got Man Of The Match as we seemed to loose TV coverage during Mullers speech. One final thing I am pleased that De Villiers wasn’t seriously injured, because he is a very good player.

  • Comment 1, posted at 15.02.09 22:32:50 by Dynamite Reply
  • Sharks’ higher fitness levels ❓

    Please define. I must’ve heard/read from almost one player/coach from each franchise claiming 2009 to be the ‘fittest’ they’ve ever been. And I predict we’ll hear it next year again. 🙄

    I don’t think it had anything to do with fitness.

    Two things:

    The Sharks were simply better and

    Without JdV the Stormers (especially the backline) seem to be rudderless.

  • Comment 2, posted at 15.02.09 22:57:57 by McLovin Reply
  • And I don’t reckon the Sharks have too much to worry about.

    This was really your first proper match of the season. You weren’t at your best, but what did you expect? Bottom line – you won. Away from home.

  • Comment 3, posted at 15.02.09 23:05:39 by McLovin Reply
  • And another thing, Isla Fischer is really hot. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 4, posted at 15.02.09 23:08:25 by McLovin Reply
  • Fisher. 🙄

  • Comment 5, posted at 15.02.09 23:09:26 by McLovin Reply
  • Yes she most definitely is

  • Comment 6, posted at 15.02.09 23:51:03 by beez Reply
  • @McLovin (Comment 2) : I would love to see the stats for the different teams. American football teams have this info avail even for varsity teams.
    How quick are the backs over 40m, 100m etc. what are the bleep tests, how powerful are the pack. And most importantly how does it compare with last year…

  • Comment 7, posted at 15.02.09 23:52:47 by beez Reply
  • try time, I reckon you need to sober up and go watch the game again 🙂

  • Comment 8, posted at 16.02.09 00:17:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 8) : rob we obviously need to watch it together. 😀 what i forgot to say was that i wasn’t looking at the positives that far out weighed the negatives. i’ll leave that for my sole aim in this article was too point out the problems before they ruin the campaign like they did last year.

  • Comment 9, posted at 16.02.09 06:02:18 by try time Reply

  • @McLovin (Comment 2) : Yes they are all fitter than they have ever been, some just fitter than others.

  • Comment 10, posted at 16.02.09 07:23:46 by try time Reply

  • 😳 Damn…

  • Comment 11, posted at 16.02.09 08:02:39 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 11) :

    Don’t worry molly. We’ll be back!!! 😕

  • Comment 12, posted at 16.02.09 08:12:23 by wpw Reply
  • I don’t remember Johan having a terrible game… 😕

  • Comment 13, posted at 16.02.09 08:13:49 by blackshark Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 9) : while some of your points definitely resonate, I feel the article ap a whole is unduly critical and far too pessimistic. It was an away win against one of the early favourites and was ultimately more emphatic than the scoreline would suggest

  • Comment 14, posted at 16.02.09 08:14:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 9) : The problem was with the 2 tries the Stormers scored Ruan Pienaar did not make a 100% effort tackle on Bobo and totally slipt of Peter Grant, in replacing Adi with Swannie will be insane it’s like throwing the sheep to the wolves… Anyway it was the first game, we won, everybody had their share of good and bad and I am a happy Sharks supporter… Black & White. Nothing else matters… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 15, posted at 16.02.09 08:17:07 by Charlie Reply

  • @wpw (Comment 12) : Hopefully against the Reds 🙄

  • Comment 16, posted at 16.02.09 08:18:10 by Charlie Reply

  • What I am more interested in is how the individual match-up’s panned out?

    De Villiers/Steyn?

  • Comment 17, posted at 16.02.09 08:21:20 by MorneN Reply
  • I heard Lukas actually played well when he came on. Can anyone confirm this??? 🙄

  • Comment 18, posted at 16.02.09 08:23:12 by wpw Reply
  • Well played Sharkies!

  • Comment 19, posted at 16.02.09 08:24:28 by molly Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 18) : He did, but the booing was a shame to witness… 🙄

  • Comment 20, posted at 16.02.09 08:26:54 by Charlie Reply

  • @wpw (Comment 18) : he was ok, but rocket dummied the living sh1t out him, he he he,

  • Comment 21, posted at 16.02.09 08:31:51 by willa Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : yes but weigh it up with the positives of my previous article. secondly i’d rather be pessimistic now knowing the sharks have time to rectify their problems, rather than sulk when they fail for a third year running due to not learning from mistakes made in previous campaigns

  • Comment 22, posted at 16.02.09 08:41:32 by try time Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 15) : wrong ruan during the peter grant try ruan was never in position to defend as the tackle was supposed to be made by the shark in front of him. ruan made more of an effort than the sharks player that missed grant first up.

  • Comment 23, posted at 16.02.09 08:43:38 by try time Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 15) : also adi played as poorly during the warm up game. so i don’t expect excuses as he should have learnt from that performance. the second part is can riaan really play worse than adi did in the first half. note though i do say first half. when the game opens up adi does come into his own hence my argument should he start?

  • Comment 24, posted at 16.02.09 08:46:35 by try time Reply

  • @blackshark (Comment 13) : black shark he never had a terrible game. he was solid at set pieces and he supported well. but when he was the first man at the tackle area he dove straight over the top regularly. he then stands up after getting penalised and moans about the stormers. that is not what i expect from the captain. he was in the wrong and he should have stopped doing it instead of attacking the ref. he and frans both killed great moves by the sharks with poor play at the breakdowns.

  • Comment 25, posted at 16.02.09 08:52:02 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 24) :

    Dude – it seems you are the only one on mother earth who thinks Adi had an average game.

    According to most rugby scribes he actually had a pretty good game and Ruan was singled out as being average.

  • Comment 26, posted at 16.02.09 08:54:11 by wpw Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : I tend to agree with Rob, I thought the first half was evenly matched. But in the second half the sharks despite the errors were unstoppable. You controlled the ball and the field position a dam site better than the Stormers and despite a rush by the Stormers after 60 minutes or so – you were never in danger of losing.

    The Sharks will do well if they play like this all season and erradicate the errors.

  • Comment 27, posted at 16.02.09 08:55:32 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 23) : Poor effort, poor excuse mate… 🙄

  • Comment 28, posted at 16.02.09 08:57:33 by Charlie Reply

  • @wpw (Comment 26) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 29, posted at 16.02.09 08:58:11 by Charlie Reply

  • @try time (Comment 24) : I think you need to come to hence that Dick Muir believed in the impact player game for Adi, but PDV & Plum does not think so… 😉

  • Comment 30, posted at 16.02.09 09:01:26 by Charlie Reply

  • @MorneN (Comment 17) : Bekker/Muller? both had decent enough games. evens
    Schalk/Deysel? both players were kept out the game.
    Vermeulen/Kanko? same as above
    January/Kockett? kockett won as he distributed a lot better.
    Grant/Pienaar? grant offered a little more
    De Villiers/Steyn? jdv both played different games. frans missed a couple of tackles though.
    Bobo/Adi? bobo by far. he was solid and strong.
    JP/Chavanga? jp offered a lot more than just catch and run.
    Jantjes/Oupa? stefan takes it for his great covering. he needs to learn how to use the ball better though. this up and under business is great at pinning the opposition back, but it doesn’t get tries.

  • Comment 31, posted at 16.02.09 09:03:27 by try time Reply

  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 27) : The Sharks probably will feel they butchered a few good opportunities, they had the lions share of possession and territory after the first 20 minutes, and Ruan’s kicking was a little off (he missed 3, but all were narrow misses and I read somewhere the swirling wind didn’t help (it did for Rory though…)

    I think the Sharks showed greater composure and if they finish every game strongly, they will be difficult to beat.

    Remember the days of the 2 halves where they played like a cheetah out of the blocks in the first half, and a lumbering bear in the second where they always fell off the pace.

    I’d rather they come from behind to win, then lose from a winning position.

    I feel positive – a win away from home against a very good Stormers side, don’t take credit away where it is due.

    First game up, we can’t expect totally clinical play just yet.

  • Comment 32, posted at 16.02.09 09:05:13 by Baldrick Reply

  • morning guys. probably gpnna get slated for this but what the hell.

    while i know he basically won us the game, i reckon rory has a lot to do with our lack of continuity. his clearing is slow, he is very often not at the ruck when it forms, and he takes it up himself too much, thereby slowing down the movement when a forward is required to play scrummy cos rory is sitting st the bottom of a ruck.

    i know that these things are often the source of his brilliance, but for me a scrummy must first do the basics right, basically do his job first and then he can get fancy.

  • Comment 33, posted at 16.02.09 09:05:56 by knersboy Reply

  • look i wasn’t expecting a great reception from this article, but after the sharks pissed away bonus points last season for the exact same reasons, i wasn’t going to sit and hold my tongue. i am not going to do this every week, it was my challenge to the sharks as a fan. so that i can possible enjoy the super 14 victory with them in may.

  • Comment 34, posted at 16.02.09 09:07:04 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 31) : “this up and under business is great at pinning the opposition back, but it doesn’t get tries.” But it forces the opposition to play from their own half. We won more games than we lost last year (and this year). If it is a tactic that is working, no point in fixing what ain’t broke. Refining it and perfecting it yes, but it is working because we have kickers in Rory, Ruan, Frans and Stef.

  • Comment 35, posted at 16.02.09 09:07:38 by Baldrick Reply

  • “Bobo/Adi? bobo by far. he was solid and strong” – No surprise on your view, but it still did not help the Stormers won, Adi’s efforts as a team player weighed out Bobo’s individualism in the Sharks victory :mrgreen:

  • Comment 36, posted at 16.02.09 09:08:38 by Charlie Reply

  • @Baldrick (Comment 32) : i agree, i said earlier this week that the sharks would win it in the last quarter. funny how no-one remembers that. and my man on man predictions weren’t far of either.

  • Comment 37, posted at 16.02.09 09:11:54 by try time Reply

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  • Comment 38, posted at 16.02.09 09:12:31 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • ‘Sup Tjops.

    Congrats all with the Tjarkie win – well played, no excuses unfortunately.

    Tjarkies might want to look at methods taking the ball up, Stormpies tackled them back big time in the first half (only to fade in the 2nd. of course). Yes, Jean did leave in the 2nd as well – only show we don’t have proper options when he’s not there.

    @Charlie (Comment 36) : Agreed, Bobo tried too much on his own when he was handed the captaincy. Was exactly the impression I got 5 mins after Jean was off.

    Cheers, work bekcons

  • Comment 39, posted at 16.02.09 09:13:08 by Namboer Reply

  • @Baldrick (Comment 35) : yes but then you have to make sure that you are going to pin the players back not slip tackles.

  • Comment 40, posted at 16.02.09 09:13:33 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 37) : Good for you, but you always tend to move more negative then positive, sour grapes or carrying a chip on the shoulder perhaps ❓

  • Comment 41, posted at 16.02.09 09:15:06 by Charlie Reply

  • @Baldrick (Comment 35) : yes but how damaging to the sharks campaign would bryce lawrences shocker had been had we made sure of getting bonus points throughout the season. four bonus points nullifies a loss. up and unders may win games, but it doesn’t get tries.

  • Comment 42, posted at 16.02.09 09:16:33 by try time Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 41) : damn right i am carrying a chip. being a supporter of the most successful super 14 team that can’t win a title doesn’t go down easy.

  • Comment 43, posted at 16.02.09 09:17:56 by try time Reply

  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 38) : Hey Boet, you think Pienaar has defensive issues? Both stormers tries he was the tackler…

  • Comment 44, posted at 16.02.09 09:22:33 by rahul Reply

  • @try time (Comment 43) : Thanx for coming out of the closet :mrgreen:

  • Comment 45, posted at 16.02.09 09:23:13 by Charlie Reply

  • @rahul (Comment 44) : 🙄

  • Comment 46, posted at 16.02.09 09:25:37 by Charlie Reply

  • Good morning all

  • Comment 47, posted at 16.02.09 09:26:53 by provincejoulekkading Reply
  • what interests me though is that people only seem to be defending adi here and blaming ruan. so maybe the rest of what i said in the article has some merit.

  • Comment 48, posted at 16.02.09 09:28:51 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 31) : deysel had a good game, thats why he was man of the match,duane made some big hits but kanko gave him a hand-off hell never forget, muller was disapointing, gave away to many free kicks and missed a few takles,steyn also missed a few, but also made alot good tackles,and a few times pienaar really got the backs firing

  • Comment 49, posted at 16.02.09 09:30:39 by willa Reply

  • @Baldrick (Comment 32) : Taking nothing away in fact i felt i was rather giving. And i haven’t even started on how kak the stormers were 😆

  • Comment 50, posted at 16.02.09 09:31:07 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • Hey PJLD!

  • Comment 51, posted at 16.02.09 09:31:19 by wpw Reply
  • @willa (Comment 49) : i thought rory was man of the match.

  • Comment 52, posted at 16.02.09 09:33:33 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 52) : no, after the bulls game they had the interviews, and it was deysel!

  • Comment 53, posted at 16.02.09 09:35:12 by willa Reply

  • @willa (Comment 49) : but i agree, ryan and deysel made some nice breaks. can’t waith for those two to hit form. keegan was quiet.

  • Comment 54, posted at 16.02.09 09:35:17 by try time Reply

  • @willa (Comment 53) : cool, i’ll take your word. i couldn’t watch anymore of the bulls game so i put on a movie.

  • Comment 55, posted at 16.02.09 09:38:34 by try time Reply

  • On the topic of people playing [email protected], did anyone catch the Bok 7s team against England last night??? 😳 😳 👿

  • Comment 56, posted at 16.02.09 09:39:07 by provincejoulekkading Reply
  • @provincejoulekkading (Comment 56) : funny what a difference stick makes to the team. they are lost without him.

  • Comment 57, posted at 16.02.09 09:40:55 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 57) : adi should be sent over to win the 7 world cup. 😀 😀 😀

  • Comment 58, posted at 16.02.09 09:41:56 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 54) : he was, no big runs, but made some nice hits,and i though ruan kick out of hand was good, but the goal kicks….i dont know, grant missed a much easier one when he kicked into wind like ruan did?? what do u think

  • Comment 59, posted at 16.02.09 09:44:10 by willa Reply

  • @try time (Comment 55) : same here, watched that step brothers, them i rewinded on the pvr

  • Comment 60, posted at 16.02.09 09:45:40 by willa Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : i find this amusing considering your recent tyrades about Frans and Ruan.

  • Comment 61, posted at 16.02.09 09:46:31 by try time Reply

  • @willa (Comment 59) : yeah ruan on attack is brilliant. he offloads brilliantly. those kicks weren’t easu. all were over 40 m into a heavy wind.

  • Comment 62, posted at 16.02.09 09:49:37 by try time Reply

  • @willa (Comment 60) : damn never thought of taping the interviews. oh well still many games to go.

  • Comment 63, posted at 16.02.09 09:51:20 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 57) : Treu shouldve made changes with at half time already,Delport woulda added cooler head to the field,him plus another change would’ve won it.

  • Comment 64, posted at 16.02.09 09:51:46 by provincejoulekkading Reply
  • @provincejoulekkading (Comment 64) : yes, i felt the same about the games in wellington. he seems to leave certain players on too long.

  • Comment 65, posted at 16.02.09 09:56:38 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 58) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 66, posted at 16.02.09 10:04:03 by Charlie Reply

  • @try time (Comment 58) :

    I’ll be there, maybe I can play. 😆

  • Comment 67, posted at 16.02.09 10:05:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 67) : Go for it Ou Baas, you can do it :mrgreen: 😆 :mrgreen:

  • Comment 68, posted at 16.02.09 10:09:45 by Charlie Reply

  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 67) : i’d rather have you as the ref. then you can do a stuart dickenson.

  • Comment 69, posted at 16.02.09 10:23:40 by try time Reply

  • Well done to the Sharks, deserved the win just for the fact that they dominated large parts of the match. Couple of things though…
    – Game changed in a big way when JDV went off. If that hadn’t happened, I think the Stormers would have scored another breakaway try and killed the game off.
    – This game showed that, even on the losing side, Peter Grant should have been given more of a chance as the Springbok 10. Watch him become the standout flyhalf over the next few weeks.

    I don’t think most people realise how good a win this was for the Sharks away from home, and they should look to finish in the top 2 now. This was a very important game to get out the way early on, because you just know that the Stormers will pick up momentum as the competition goes on and become the team that nobody wants to meet in the semis. They will have learnt from last season and will definitely pick up more points in the early stages and then peak at the right time.

  • Comment 70, posted at 16.02.09 10:27:02 by Ghost10 Reply

  • Deysel man of the match??????
    He had 1 run where he actually made ground and then disappeared for the rest of the match.
    Smit/Kockott, surely.

  • Comment 71, posted at 16.02.09 10:27:26 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 71) :

    I feel the same way. When I saw him announced as MOM I thought “cool!!!!” but later I had to ask myself, Where was he i hardly saw him on the pitch.

  • Comment 72, posted at 16.02.09 10:30:32 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Ghost10 (Comment 70) : my thoughts exactly. except for the part about stormers closing out the game if jdv was on.

  • Comment 73, posted at 16.02.09 10:31:33 by try time Reply

  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 72) : @molly (Comment 71) : good to see i am not the only guy who thought that. i regularly find these motm awards ridiculous. for instance juan smith getting it in the lions game. i thought heincke deserved it for his brilliant scrummaging, it is rare seeing a prop obliterate a forward pack like that.

  • Comment 74, posted at 16.02.09 10:34:36 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 74) :

    Juan Smith got MOTM? 😯 and he was in the losing side that showed pretty much zero quality rugby???? 😯

  • Comment 75, posted at 16.02.09 10:36:55 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 75) : great my morning has changed, people are actually agreeing with me again. yes that is exactly what i felt.

  • Comment 76, posted at 16.02.09 10:39:47 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 76) : Time to change your story then. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 77, posted at 16.02.09 10:46:31 by klempie Reply

  • And an englishman got it in the Wales/Poms game. MOTM is turning into a farce.

  • Comment 78, posted at 16.02.09 10:48:43 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 71) : he actualy had more like 7 or 8, and each time it took about 3 okes to pull him down

  • Comment 79, posted at 16.02.09 10:49:06 by willa Reply

  • @molly (Comment 78) : Morning Mol.

  • Comment 80, posted at 16.02.09 10:50:21 by klempie Reply

  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 72) : i watched the whole game again last night, he was everywhere, making takles, strong runs, doing the dirty work, i just think trough the game u miss alot, BECAUSE OF STRESS, i almost died of a head ache afterwards!!!!

  • Comment 81, posted at 16.02.09 10:51:38 by willa Reply

  • @molly (Comment 78) : 😆

    Yes I heard that.

  • Comment 82, posted at 16.02.09 10:51:52 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @rahul (Comment 44) :

    Hey ou.

    Damn right he has, I am just glad that this coming weekend the opposite flyhalf will be Earl Rose. Give him enough time to get in some match tackle practice. 😉

  • Comment 83, posted at 16.02.09 10:53:53 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 77) : pee off. :mrgreen: i am sticking to my brutal assault. i want my team to hold that super 14 high in may. and i can’t watch it slip through their fingers again due to small things that can easily be repaired.

  • Comment 84, posted at 16.02.09 10:54:28 by try time Reply

  • @willa (Comment 81) :

    I know the headache feeling. “I” also miss quite a bit through looking at my keyboard to type commentary.

    We should implement a rule that when your team is playing someone from another team has to do commentary. 😛

  • Comment 85, posted at 16.02.09 10:55:50 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 79) : yes it does help to watch it again without the emotions. i wanted to before my scathing article, but rather had a great lunch at a mates place.

  • Comment 86, posted at 16.02.09 10:56:24 by try time Reply

  • @klempie (Comment 80) : Hi Klempie…

  • Comment 87, posted at 16.02.09 10:59:03 by molly Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 83) : yes this weekend will have some interesting battles. our tight five are going to battle, but earl rose will help the sharks again. the interesting battle will be adi vs jacques 😆 😆 😆

  • Comment 88, posted at 16.02.09 10:59:30 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 84) :

    And when they win the final you will probably bitch that they didn’t win it well enough. 😛

  • Comment 89, posted at 16.02.09 11:00:41 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 86) : he he, i could wait to send my girl home to watch it again, but its true, that why i have almost the whole super 14 08 on dvd, and some of 07, i have to see it again, because i totally freak out during a game, i also dont watch sharks games in public!!!! 😆

  • Comment 90, posted at 16.02.09 11:02:40 by willa Reply

  • @willa (Comment 90) : could = could not

  • Comment 91, posted at 16.02.09 11:03:06 by willa Reply

  • @try time (Comment 88) :

  • Comment 92, posted at 16.02.09 11:04:13 by Charlie Reply

  • @try time (Comment 88) :

    I’m am afraid i think Fourie is gonna win that one. 😥

  • Comment 93, posted at 16.02.09 11:04:38 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 93) :

    Easy there KSA – Mossie is a great player but I still don’t think Adi should be shaking in his boots since he’s a great player by his own rights…

    Don’t confuse having an average first game against the Stormers with being a carpet for everyone to walk over. Adi will have a better game this Saturday – trust me…

  • Comment 94, posted at 16.02.09 11:15:56 by blackshark Reply

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  • Was Fourie any good against the Cheetahs???


  • Comment 95, posted at 16.02.09 11:22:38 by wpw Reply
  • @willa (Comment 90) : yes i have to be removed from soceity cos at times i get angry.

  • Comment 96, posted at 16.02.09 11:23:59 by try time Reply

  • @blackshark (Comment 94) :

    Bru, KSA Shark rated JP Joubert as a rugby player. Please don’t take anything he says seriously. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 97, posted at 16.02.09 11:24:42 by wpw Reply
  • i even move in to the spare room and lock myself in there so i don’t upset my son.

  • Comment 98, posted at 16.02.09 11:24:56 by try time Reply

  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 93) : yeah charlie will be upset.

  • Comment 99, posted at 16.02.09 11:26:37 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 98) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 100, posted at 16.02.09 11:27:33 by willa Reply

  • @try time (Comment 84) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 101, posted at 16.02.09 11:31:01 by klempie Reply

  • does anyone know how the just rugby fantasy scoring works, looks like everyone got points for starting xv but me

  • Comment 102, posted at 16.02.09 11:35:44 by willa Reply

  • @blackshark (Comment 94) :

    I am not just going on this weeks game.

    Sorry i just think Fourie is bigger stronger and better on defence. Adi only wins in the steppinf department IMO.

  • Comment 103, posted at 16.02.09 11:37:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Did anyone here JJ Harmse on 5fm this morn?

  • Comment 104, posted at 16.02.09 11:37:22 by molly Reply
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  • @willa (Comment 102) :

    The scoring system is explained on the About FL page on Just rugby.

    let me go have a look at your score quickly.

  • Comment 105, posted at 16.02.09 11:39:34 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 102) :

    What is your team name?

  • Comment 106, posted at 16.02.09 11:41:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 102) : rob is the guy you need to lambaste. but be careful he is very sensitive.

  • Comment 107, posted at 16.02.09 11:41:42 by try time Reply

  • @molly (Comment 104) :

    No. But 5fm must be in serious kak if they have to resort to interviewing JJ Harmse.

  • Comment 108, posted at 16.02.09 11:42:27 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 103) : and bald department. 😆 😆

  • Comment 109, posted at 16.02.09 11:42:27 by try time Reply

  • @molly (Comment 104) : nah what was it about?

  • Comment 110, posted at 16.02.09 11:43:04 by try time Reply

  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 103) :

    Based on their general performance – I’d say they are evenly matched.

  • Comment 111, posted at 16.02.09 11:43:08 by blackshark Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 106) :

    ignore that question 😳

  • Comment 112, posted at 16.02.09 11:43:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • dont worry, found the problem, was in such a hurry that i forgot to finish 😳 😳

  • Comment 113, posted at 16.02.09 11:44:19 by willa Reply

  • @willa (Comment 102) :

    All I can think is that your starting XV was not complete.

    Will ask Rob to check on that?

  • Comment 114, posted at 16.02.09 11:44:56 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 114) : yes that was it, craaappppp, now im a whole round behind, lying in 46 with 312

  • Comment 115, posted at 16.02.09 11:46:16 by willa Reply

  • @willa (Comment 113) :

    Aaaaah okay!

    So no need to ask Rob then. 🙂

  • Comment 116, posted at 16.02.09 11:47:50 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 115) :


    But don’t worry about it I am in 18th with 368.5 and i did have a full Starting XV. 😳

  • Comment 117, posted at 16.02.09 11:49:15 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 108) & @try time (Comment 110) : You know the usual tripe, they phoned him for a brief synopsis, mostly about Matfields injury. He touched briefly on everyone and then finished with a quick swipe at Stormers, something along the lines of “too much hype again for an average team” after one game he’s already happy to write them off.
    I hope we kill the bulls!

  • Comment 118, posted at 16.02.09 11:50:31 by molly Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 117) :

    My FL team sucks!!!
    What was I on when I picked it. 😡

    When are you doing the SB article so I can laugh at Wes… 😆

  • Comment 119, posted at 16.02.09 11:52:08 by blackshark Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 115) : 46 ➡ thats a rather unlucky number

  • Comment 120, posted at 16.02.09 11:53:58 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 120) :why ❓

  • Comment 121, posted at 16.02.09 11:58:26 by willa Reply

  • @blackshark (Comment 119) :

    I ain’t doing an SB article, and NOT because I am in 90-somethingth (is that a word? – it ought to be) position. 😳

  • Comment 122, posted at 16.02.09 11:59:26 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 120) :

    He should be more worried about us booing him than his starting XV not getting any points. 😉

  • Comment 123, posted at 16.02.09 12:01:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 119) : 👿

  • Comment 124, posted at 16.02.09 12:03:24 by wpw Reply
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 123) : 😆 😆 😆

  • Comment 125, posted at 16.02.09 12:03:32 by willa Reply

  • @wpw (Comment 124) :
    Ha ha ha…try not to pick against the Sharks in future…that should help improve your record…

  • Comment 126, posted at 16.02.09 12:06:18 by blackshark Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 125) :

    I gather you got the answer now. 😉 😆

  • Comment 127, posted at 16.02.09 12:08:49 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 126) :

    There’s that Sharks arrogance again… 😉

  • Comment 128, posted at 16.02.09 12:16:26 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 128) :
    You missed out on a good game…hope the trip was worth it… 😆


    “Peter de Villiers’ Springboks are hoping to use matches against Namibia and the New Zealand Maori as part of their preparation for the Test series against the British & Irish Lions.”

  • Comment 129, posted at 16.02.09 12:19:09 by blackshark Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 118) : ha ha.

  • Comment 130, posted at 16.02.09 12:33:28 by try time Reply

  • I have a friend David who always repeats himself.

    We call him Dave ja vu. 🙄

  • Comment 131, posted at 16.02.09 12:33:52 by McLovin Reply

  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 103) : 😳 Adi’s more clever, surely faster, fitter and more creative 😉

  • Comment 132, posted at 16.02.09 12:35:04 by Charlie Reply

  • ha ha ha, i forgot to put my starting line up and i am fourth. suck on that boys. gotta give you all a chance.

  • Comment 133, posted at 16.02.09 12:37:06 by try time Reply

  • sorry fifth.

  • Comment 134, posted at 16.02.09 12:37:38 by try time Reply

  • @McLovin (Comment 131) : sounds like my old man

  • Comment 135, posted at 16.02.09 12:38:27 by try time Reply

  • oh i did. i don’t remember doing it. but i don’t remember a lot of things.

  • Comment 136, posted at 16.02.09 12:41:12 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 136) : like adi playing a good game when he starts. 😆 😆 😆

  • Comment 137, posted at 16.02.09 12:41:52 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 137) :
    You didn’t watch a lot of Bok games last year, did you? 😛

  • Comment 138, posted at 16.02.09 13:05:21 by blackshark Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 133) :


    it looks to me as if you had a Starting XV.

    If you thin k you didn’t put them in we can always request that your bonus points for the Starting XV be removed?

    That’d put you in 28th spot.

    Just say the word and I’ll ask for it to be done. 😉

  • Comment 139, posted at 16.02.09 13:06:22 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 138) : yeah but he doesn’t have frans standing next to him in international rugby.

  • Comment 140, posted at 16.02.09 13:09:37 by try time Reply

  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 139) : no i corrected myself. i must have put a starting line up when i registered in case i forgot to do it before the game. which i did.

  • Comment 141, posted at 16.02.09 13:11:02 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 141) : thats why i had 4 players that didn’t even play.

  • Comment 142, posted at 16.02.09 13:11:33 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 141) :

    oh I see comment 136 now. 😆

  • Comment 143, posted at 16.02.09 13:20:51 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 129) : these games could be harder than the Lions. 😆

  • Comment 144, posted at 16.02.09 14:24:42 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 144) : :mrgreen: Arrogance…

  • Comment 145, posted at 16.02.09 14:32:52 by blackshark Reply

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