Third-gear Sharks?

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 23 Feb 2009 at 10:56

Was it just me, or did the Sharks look ever-so-slightly like they were holding back on Saturday? I mean, the guys played more than well enough to win and win comfortably, but I found myself wondering whether the thought of a pre-tour injury might not be towards the front of some players’ minds.

The Super 14 is a gruelling competition, of that their is no doubt. Expecting a team to play at their absolute peak in a virtual test-match environment for 15 weeks in a row is a pretty big ask. Add to that the absolutely suicidal conditions in Durban at this time of year and the fact that the Sharks have the sort of draw that makes going unbeaten through the season an outside possibility. I then ask myself – would their be any point in doing more than was absolutely necessary to secure four points against the Lions? I don’t think there really was.

Let’s face facts here – the New Zealand teams, collectively, look weak this year. The Crusaders have already dropped a bonus point at home and lost a game away. The Blues were thrashed by an average Bulls team, while the Chiefs, Highlanders and Hurricanes are all battling to out-mediocre one another. The Waratahs and Brumbies both remain unbeaten and will present a formidable challenge to the Sharks, although we at least face them in Durban. The promising Bulls will lose both of those games away, as well as getting hammered by the Crusaders, effectively taking them out of home semi-final contention.

Point is, despite how the prophets of doom are already circling, the Sharks are really unlikely to rue the lost bonus point against the Lions in the final reckoning. Not if they manage to stay fit, sharp and uninjured through their cakewalk of a tour and emerge unbeaten, with a string of games in Durban to follow. We’ll worry about the bonus points then, when the ball is drier and the tour hump is behind us.


  • It was just you 😉

    If we had scored the BP and you asked the question then I would have agreed.

    The Blues were thrashed by an average Bulls team 😯 I think that Bulls team may just be there in the final weeks.

  • Comment 1, posted at 23.02.09 11:10:43 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Allow me to disagree Rob.

    It is because of bonus points that the Sharks had to fly to Aus for the semi’s instead of hosting one.

    The team also seem to follow a disturbing pattern we saw last year where they are unable to put away teams when they should.

    They lack composure, execution and that killer instinct.

    To be honest, the Sharks have me worried.

  • Comment 2, posted at 23.02.09 11:11:11 by Morné Reply
  • And the Bulls were awesome on Saturday, which is exactly why I had them as my own pre-season favourites ahead of the Sharks.

  • Comment 3, posted at 23.02.09 11:12:08 by Morné Reply
  • Bottom line is, you HAVE to win your home games and at least 3 or more away wins would be great.

    We already have one away win and that missed Home BP will probably not be that vital at the end of the season if we have a reasonable tour.

  • Comment 4, posted at 23.02.09 11:13:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • were playing more than well enough
    Are Sharks supporters the delusional Bulls supporters of old!??!

    If that is your 3rd gear…then the Sharks is equivalent to an Atos!??????!

  • Comment 5, posted at 23.02.09 11:15:03 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 5) : dude… go sober up and watch the game again.

    @KSA Shark © (Comment 4) : that’s my point.

  • Comment 6, posted at 23.02.09 11:17:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 2) :

    At last…..someone making sense….

  • Comment 7, posted at 23.02.09 11:17:59 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Morné (Comment 2) :

    You are worried for no reason IMO.

    Had the handling errors for each side not been above 20 on Saturday then I would have been worried. Both sides made more than 20 handling errors and to me that just emphasises the effect that the 30-odd DegC temperature and 70-plus % humidity had on the match.

  • Comment 8, posted at 23.02.09 11:18:30 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • At least you would have a few blind Sharks supporters coming through and agreeing with your article Rob…

  • Comment 9, posted at 23.02.09 11:19:09 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Morné (Comment 3) :

    I just hope you weren’t foolish enough to put money on that prediction. 🙂

  • Comment 10, posted at 23.02.09 11:19:35 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 1) :

    KSA…I don’t even think you deserved 3 tries never mind a bonus point…

  • Comment 11, posted at 23.02.09 11:20:24 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Morné (Comment 2) : I agree , Morne. The Sharks should have finished of the lions and collected a bonus point. This just reminds me too much of last year’s campaign and I don’t like it. There is a huge difference between a home semi and a away semi, like we saw last year and it could be the solitary bonus point that determines that.

  • Comment 12, posted at 23.02.09 11:22:51 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 8) :

    You had enough line-breaks and territorial advantage to score 4 tries, hell you bagged 3 already!

    Champion teams put the opposition away when it matters, pretenders bitch about conditions.

  • Comment 13, posted at 23.02.09 11:23:27 by Morné Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 6) :

    I think the guys wanted that BP and just couldn’t manage to get the bloody thing. 🙁

    Why they couldn’t get it, will vary from “Why did Ross Cronje get put on?” to “Francois Steyn should have passed more often” and even maybe to “they already had one foot on the plane”, but I don’t think they felt they didn’t need it or were worried about putting their bodies on the line.

  • Comment 14, posted at 23.02.09 11:23:50 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 13) :

    You won’t hear us bitch about conditions again, especially not a wet Boland field. 😛

  • Comment 15, posted at 23.02.09 11:24:44 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 15) :

    By the time we come back to SA our Durban Summer will be over and we will score more than enough tries.

  • Comment 16, posted at 23.02.09 11:25:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 15) :

    You would notice I said ‘champion’ teams… 😈

  • Comment 17, posted at 23.02.09 11:26:59 by Morné Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : Rob , this stinks on last year where the Sharks won while playing in 3rd gear…pity is they never got out of 3rd gear like everyone thought ( except maybe the Chiefs game. They need to get to 5 gear NOW else they not gonna get there

  • Comment 18, posted at 23.02.09 11:27:25 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Why are the Stormers and Lions supporters worried about the Sharks losing out on a bonus point ❓ 🙄 ❓

  • Comment 19, posted at 23.02.09 11:27:45 by Charlie Reply

  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 15) : 😆 😆 😆

  • Comment 20, posted at 23.02.09 11:28:19 by Charlie Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 19) :

    Believe it or not we all want to see a SA team win.

    But all I am seeing is the Sharks I saw in 2008 pissing that opportunity away.

  • Comment 21, posted at 23.02.09 11:29:30 by Morné Reply
  • Rob, I hope you don’t have to eat humble Pie, its still to early to drop a bonus point, especially against a side like the lions. You need to take all your points, the Crusaders will get better and they may still rue the missed bonus point. They only missed it by about an inch or so.

  • Comment 22, posted at 23.02.09 11:30:42 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 21) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 23, posted at 23.02.09 11:31:49 by Charlie Reply

  • @Morné (Comment 21) : I also always support ALL SA teams even if it affect my SB predictions.When they play each other the favouritism starts. I hate seeing teams pissing oppertuinities away( ala the Cheetahs )

  • Comment 24, posted at 23.02.09 11:32:32 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 24) :

    Oh dont even get me started on them and the Stormers.

  • Comment 25, posted at 23.02.09 11:34:08 by Morné Reply
  • @Morné (Comment 25) : The Stormers nearly caused me a heart attack on Friday. The where my pick for the LMS competition. The Stormers better learn to play 80 min of rugby and not just 50 min

  • Comment 26, posted at 23.02.09 11:38:08 by Pokkel Reply
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  • The Sharks had a little more difficult tour last year and this year I actually think LESS points will be required to make the play-offs or get a Home play-off.

    I say this because the NZ teams seem of a lower standard this year.

    We (SA) are also lucky that the NZ teams are being rocked by injuries. Unfortunately ther Sharks’ opponents this weekend are not nearly as hard hit as the other NZ sides.

    if we look at this weekend’s fixtures, the Sharks will have to pull finger to stay up there withthe other three sides who will STILL be unbeaten after Rnd 3.

    27 Crusaders vs Hurricanes Christchurch 08:35
    27 Waratahs vs Highlanders Sydney 10:40
    28 Chiefs vs The Sharks Hamilton 08:35
    28 Brumbies vs Western Force Canberra 10:40
    28 Auto & General Lions vs Vodacom Bulls Johannesburg 17:00
    28 Vodacom Stormers vs Blues Cape Town 19:10

    March 2009
    1 Reds vs Vodacom Cheetahs (Sunday Game)

  • Comment 27, posted at 23.02.09 11:42:04 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 27) :

    You also face much tougher opposition at home this year compared to last year where you still struggled with BP’s.

    Also, do not forget, the perenial slow starters of the comp will also then be up to full speed…

    The tour on paper seem okay, but given performances of all teams so far this year it is not going to be easy to come away with wins overseas.

  • Comment 28, posted at 23.02.09 11:46:43 by Morné Reply
  • @Morné (Comment 21) : dont really think we pissed it away, i think epi had a big hand in that one 😆 😆 😆

  • Comment 29, posted at 23.02.09 11:48:17 by willa Reply

  • @Morné (Comment 28) :

    perenial slow starters? you guys?

  • Comment 30, posted at 23.02.09 11:48:45 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 27) : March 2009
    1 Reds vs Vodacom Cheetahs (Sunday Game @ 07:30)

  • Comment 31, posted at 23.02.09 11:49:40 by Charlie Reply

  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 30) :

    Now they are the perenial no hopers who can’t find the ignition.

    More referring to the Saders and the likes.

  • Comment 32, posted at 23.02.09 11:50:42 by Morné Reply
  • @Charlie (Comment 31) : ❓

  • Comment 33, posted at 23.02.09 12:00:47 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 32) :

    So why can we not also have a slow start for a change and also be better by the time we play the Crusdaders?

  • Comment 34, posted at 23.02.09 12:01:34 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 33) : Kick-off @ 07:30 SA-time 😉

  • Comment 35, posted at 23.02.09 12:06:15 by Charlie Reply

  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 34) :

    Problem is you finish slow too.

  • Comment 36, posted at 23.02.09 12:06:38 by Morné Reply
  • @Charlie (Comment 35) :

    Oh okay. 🙂

    @Morné (Comment 36) : :mrgreen: i only realised that after I posted the comment. 😉 🙁

  • Comment 37, posted at 23.02.09 12:07:50 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 13) :

    But the concern is the LIONS had just as many…the last I saw the LIONS missed 25 tackles and the Sharks 23…

  • Comment 38, posted at 23.02.09 12:10:52 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 19) :

    Because we are South Africans and we need a SA team to win the S14…


    Jinne you are def not a bright person in the faintest sense…

  • Comment 39, posted at 23.02.09 12:20:11 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 38) :

    SA teams’ defence apart from the Bulls have been shocking so far.

  • Comment 40, posted at 23.02.09 12:21:38 by Morné Reply
  • The Lions in fact more than any other team seems to always give themselves a decent chance of winning by only falling apart every single time.

  • Comment 41, posted at 23.02.09 12:22:30 by Morné Reply
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 27) :

    KSA you guys have a good chance….but I don’t see you picking up a single log point against the Chiefs if you don’t play at least 3 times better than Saturday….

  • Comment 42, posted at 23.02.09 12:22:31 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Morné (Comment 40) :

    The Bulls actually had a very poor def game against teh Reds…and half time in that game they missed 6 from 26 tackles…

  • Comment 43, posted at 23.02.09 12:27:24 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 43) :

    At least they improved against the Blues, well apart from Habana that is.

  • Comment 44, posted at 23.02.09 12:30:26 by Morné Reply
  • you guys are all missing the value of bonus points. the sharks can expect at least one game this year where the ref will cheat. the lack of bp hurt us last year when bryce cheated, and it could again this year. as the coach you leave your strongest team on until you get that point. you don’t get into the opposition half and then throw on three debutants. what difference would 5 minutes have made in their careers. but 5 minutes with the quality players on the field would have made the try on offer. i was very disappointed with plum with his decision making.

  • Comment 45, posted at 23.02.09 12:34:31 by try time Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 39) : You seems to be the odd one because a bright person are usually one step ahead…asking a ❓ and already knowing what the answer will be…DUH… 🙄 – Hopefully I do not have to repeat myself 😉

  • Comment 46, posted at 23.02.09 12:34:46 by Charlie Reply

  • talking about habana, am i the only person who saw him trip the blues player that he bounced off. they showed at least 3 replays and you could see it everytime.

  • Comment 47, posted at 23.02.09 12:37:15 by try time Reply

  • @Morné (Comment 44) :


    And Habana is not a bad “tackler” …he has actually put in good hits over the years…..he just seems to get totally confused on defense…going left when he needs to go right or making the Bulls def completely venerable by doing his own thing like trying to intercept and not just how…he jumps so high in the air that the other players cross the try line before he lands…

  • Comment 48, posted at 23.02.09 12:44:11 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 46) :

    I hope you are not referring to yourself being ahead…you think the Sharks are looking good!??!

  • Comment 49, posted at 23.02.09 12:48:06 by Hmmm Reply

  • What the Sharks detractors seem to forget is that this is a very long tournament. Very seldom have the earlier form teams been the ones that are there at the end. The Crusaders at their pinnacle, were very slow starters in the Super Tournament – only to go on and win it.

    I would be very worried it I were a Bulls or even a Waratahs supporter, that my team was peaking too soon.

  • Comment 50, posted at 23.02.09 12:52:03 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 50) : yes but new zealand teams always took the bp on offer. even when they were playing poorly.

  • Comment 51, posted at 23.02.09 12:54:46 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 51) :

    That’s a bit of a generalisation that is not necessarily true.

  • Comment 52, posted at 23.02.09 12:58:21 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • you also forget that aussie and kiwi teams have a far easier touring schedule. south african teams need those bp to help overcome the tour, yet they constantly throw them away.

    as much as i hate the bulls, i hate to say it but they show a better attitude than the sharks. in both games when they got ahead they kept going for tries. the sharks however go into defensive mode once they hit the lead. in both games they could have scored bonus points but were to scared to attack. this i would blame on the captain. it his job to keep the team focussed.

  • Comment 53, posted at 23.02.09 13:00:33 by try time Reply

  • Guys, to be fair I think we must remember that the Sharks missed that elusive bonus point by literally 1cm (ie. Frans Steyn’s boot on the touchline)… 1cm is all that seperates us praising the Sharks for a brilliant game vs the lambasting that we are now giving them. For all intents & purposes that was their 4 th try (and the bonus point)… it just wasn’t to be.

  • Comment 54, posted at 23.02.09 13:00:56 by CS Reply

  • @Dive Pass (Comment 52) : well that could be a good check. lets see how many bp teams have gotten for the last 5 years.

  • Comment 55, posted at 23.02.09 13:02:00 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 53) :

    I would prefer to look at how the Sharks showed winning temperament in coming from behind to win both matches. That takes confidence and leadership.

  • Comment 56, posted at 23.02.09 13:03:39 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @CS (Comment 54) :

    Yeh but they did not deserve tries 1 2 and 3…
    You’ll do good to remember that too…

  • Comment 57, posted at 23.02.09 13:13:20 by Hmmm Reply

  • @try time (Comment 51) :

    Case and point…BLUES

  • Comment 58, posted at 23.02.09 13:14:25 by Hmmm Reply

  • @CS (Comment 54) :

    Plus…had you watched the game you’d know a side that had:
    22 handling errors
    23 missed tackles
    5 scrums lost

    Could by NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO means have had a brilliant game or deserve any form of praise…

    The only dif was the LIONS made more of those errors:
    29 handling errors
    25 missed tackles
    3 scrums lost

  • Comment 59, posted at 23.02.09 13:19:30 by Hmmm Reply

  • I do have one concern and this is on the Bok front.

    If Pienaar is the envisaged Bok no. 10, Janjies no.15 and Fourie or even Januaruie the no.9. Who is going to kick for the Boks? Pienaar does not seem to currently have kicking form.

    I have a nightmare that we are going to see a repeat of the Boks / Lions 1997 second test match in Durban, where we scored more tries then they did and still lost the test match and the series because we had no form kicker.

  • Comment 60, posted at 23.02.09 13:19:59 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Crusaders 45
    Chiefs 42
    Waratahs 40
    Blues 37
    Sharks 37
    Brumbies 36
    Bulls 34
    Highlanders 31
    Hurricanes 31
    Reds 29
    Stormers 27

    well here are the bonus points scored for the last 6 years. i think this is proof that nz teams go for bonus points more than their rivals.

  • Comment 61, posted at 23.02.09 13:27:13 by try time Reply

  • @Dive Pass (Comment 56) : yes but that temperament is needed more in playoffs than round matches. no point having it if you don’t make the playoffs.

  • Comment 62, posted at 23.02.09 13:30:34 by try time Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 57) : you are talking kak. They dotted the ball down behind the line on all three occasions. IPSO MOTHERF*KKIN FACTO they deserved the tries.

    Hmmm – you are a troll. It’s not a nice thing to be.

  • Comment 63, posted at 23.02.09 13:31:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • look i think this concern comes from seeing the sharks do this before. and supporters don’t want to see their best chance at a title blown again because they haven’t learnt from their mistakes. but i also see the positives in the sharks. but the positives mean nothing without a title, whereas mistakes will be looked at if the title is lost again.

  • Comment 64, posted at 23.02.09 13:34:47 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 64) : we also need to be realistic. We have a brand new 9-10-12 axis this year and it’s going to take them time to gel.

  • Comment 65, posted at 23.02.09 13:41:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 59) : that stats is not right, i watched the game again last night, will check again tonight and post

  • Comment 66, posted at 23.02.09 13:41:56 by willa Reply

  • @Dive Pass (Comment 60) :

    I agree….but he did kick very well for the Bokke last year…
    I bet Grant or the like would be on the bench as back-up…

  • Comment 67, posted at 23.02.09 13:46:39 by Hmmm Reply

  • @try time (Comment 61) :

    That is interesting….

  • Comment 68, posted at 23.02.09 13:49:51 by Hmmm Reply

  • To para-phrase the well-known rugby guru, Naas Botha: “The Super 14 is not one or lost in February” 😉 … considering the Sharks played the lions with an oval shaped “block of wet soap” I don’t think they did too badly at all. This competition comes down to winning away… lets see what the Sharks can do in the next 4 weeks and then lets go from there. If we don’t win away, Bonus points will mean squat anyway.

  • Comment 69, posted at 23.02.09 13:50:15 by CS Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 65) : yeah but that hasn’t been our problem. they have actually performed better than the same axis last year. the problem is the players are making the same old mistakes they made last year. ie frans not passing after making a break. stefan wasting ball when he has support to help him. missed tackles. slow ball. individualism. no build up of phases. patience. i want to see the sharks play like the brumbies did in the last ten minutes on saturday. 11 phases. not sniff a gap and run away from your support so you can turn the ball over when you are caught.

  • Comment 70, posted at 23.02.09 13:51:54 by try time Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 63) :

    Nope….there was never a question whether the tries were legit or not…as they for sure were…but if they are going to reply on other teams mistakes…then I am sorry to say….Sharks are going to have a tough comp…unless you reply on a few individual Kanko tries just to be outplayed in the semi’s again…

  • Comment 71, posted at 23.02.09 13:52:36 by Hmmm Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 63) :

    So you have experience in being one!!!!

    Thanks…but if being honest and realistic is being a troll….then I’d rather stay one…

  • Comment 72, posted at 23.02.09 13:54:17 by Hmmm Reply

  • @willa (Comment 66) :

    Which of them is not correct?
    Please do…I am only human…I think the missed tackle stat could be different as I never saw the post game missed tackle stat (missed it)…

  • Comment 73, posted at 23.02.09 13:56:12 by Hmmm Reply

  • @CS (Comment 69) : in saying that the sharks were unbeaten going into the 7 or eighth game last year, only to have a ref rob them of a win. had they gotten a couple more bonus points the loss wouldn’t have hurt them as much. and they wouldn’t have collapsed like they did in the games that followed. the crusaders also lost their 1st game that same weekend and the fact they had three more bonus points meant it never hurt their campaign. we all know which team won the trophy.

  • Comment 74, posted at 23.02.09 13:56:13 by try time Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 72) :

    Dude, can you please back off. 🙄

  • Comment 75, posted at 23.02.09 13:59:17 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 75) :

    Why….are you gonna roll over me if I don’t!??!

  • Comment 76, posted at 23.02.09 14:02:24 by Hmmm Reply

  • Sharks were not up to par..sorry – but I put it down to the Lions being one of our achilles heels…why I dont know.. 🙄

    We could have had a bonus point had frans Verstaan pass the ball – Japes was ready and waiting for that perfect pass…Frans had no excuse. Finish . Klaar.

  • Comment 77, posted at 23.02.09 14:06:30 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
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  • @Ice (you can leave your hat on!) (Comment 77) : yup isn’t that on my list of mistakes the sharks won’t fix.

  • Comment 78, posted at 23.02.09 14:11:03 by try time Reply

  • I agree. The Lions are a much improved side from last season and are no cakewalk. We put them away fairly comfortably in the end. And we should have scored the BP…Steyn’s foot scraping the touchline.

    To be honest, before the game I didn’t expect us to beat the Lions by more than 8 points as I know what conditions are like in Durban in Feb. Having played semi pro sport for 10 years in Durban in Feb, I know how draining and slippery the conditions can be. 3 tries was a decent return and I’m not concerned in the slightest.

    I am however worried about everyone suggesting we have an “easy” tour. No away games in the Super 14 are easy and if we approach them with the wrong attitude, we’ll get our @sses kicked!

  • Comment 79, posted at 23.02.09 14:13:37 by Villie Reply
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  • Comment 80, posted at 23.02.09 14:14:29 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 80) :

    Tense?? I am the “C” in calm… 😉 😆

  • Comment 81, posted at 23.02.09 14:16:08 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 60) : I was at that test match and recall it vividly. We actually scored 3 tries to 0 and still lost!! 😯 😡

  • Comment 82, posted at 23.02.09 14:16:54 by Villie Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 72) :

    Once a trol – always a trol… 😈 :mrgreen:

  • Comment 83, posted at 23.02.09 14:18:00 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
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  • @Ice (you can leave your hat on!) (Comment 81) :

    And I am the “S”

  • Comment 84, posted at 23.02.09 14:18:22 by Morné Reply
  • @Ice (you can leave your hat on!) (Comment 81) :

    I am the G in good mood today!!!!!! Well actually since LAST week Wednesday already. 😎

  • Comment 85, posted at 23.02.09 14:19:38 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 84) :

    S in Stormer?
    S in Shit stirrer?


  • Comment 86, posted at 23.02.09 14:20:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Villie (Comment 79) : villie funny thing is i was also hoping for 4 points out of that game. but when the lions played worse than we expected, and we wasted an opportunity i was irked. look i was not expecting a beautiful game though. it is durban and that ball is slippery. but lost opportunities are just that lost. look overall we are sitting pretty. i expect a loss this weekend, but then i feel we are going to win the next three games. my question though is should we be content with lost opportunities when history has shown these ruin a team?

  • Comment 87, posted at 23.02.09 14:23:06 by try time Reply

  • @Villie (Comment 82) :

    I was there too….terrible, think Tiech still wakes up night dreaming about it.

    So do you guys have suggestion in the Bok selection stakes to avert a similar scenario this year?

    Being a blind Sharks supporter I would suggest Cockott at 9 and as kicker but I can’t see it happening with Fourie showing form and with all his Bok experience. With the “statical” needs of the Bok team I can’t even see him getting on the bench.

  • Comment 88, posted at 23.02.09 14:24:25 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 85) :

    How so??

    @KSA Shark © (Comment 86) :


  • Comment 89, posted at 23.02.09 14:25:27 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
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  • but taking a step back, if i was a chiefs, blues, force, cheetahs, lions or stormers supporter i would be feeling a lot more aggrieved. ok i am over saturdays game now. i can’t change history so lets look at this weekends game.

  • Comment 90, posted at 23.02.09 14:27:52 by try time Reply

  • @Ice (you can leave your hat on!) (Comment 89) :

    loooooooong story but in short my company is allowing me to transfer to my new employer without having to go back to SA for 2-3 months while all the documents are put into place.

  • Comment 91, posted at 23.02.09 14:28:12 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 86) :

    Isn’t it the same?

  • Comment 92, posted at 23.02.09 14:29:03 by Morné Reply
  • @Dive Pass (Comment 88) : Yeah I think we tried 3 kickers that day and none put one over. Joubert, Monty and Honiball all missed.

    We could start with FDP, Butch and JDV at 12 and bring on Kockott, Pienaar and Steyn in 2nd half 😉

    Realistically he will start with FDP, Pienaar and JDV. I guess Ruan is therefore going to have to be first choice goalkicker. Fortunately for us (Boks), the Lions don’t have another Jenkins or even a Wilkinson so hopefully it won’t be as crucial!!

  • Comment 93, posted at 23.02.09 14:29:12 by Villie Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 2) : Sounds like the Stormers

  • Comment 94, posted at 23.02.09 14:29:16 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 90) :

    this weekend’s games are going to be good again.

    Some close matchups and only really one LMS match to choose as a sure thing.

  • Comment 95, posted at 23.02.09 14:29:26 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 92) : 😯 :mrgreen: 😯

  • Comment 96, posted at 23.02.09 14:30:00 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 92) : ha ha why do you think i call stormers poefters.

  • Comment 97, posted at 23.02.09 14:31:06 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 87) : I would have liked the BP and having given ourselves enough time to get it, it was slightly disappointing. However it’s no use moaning about it now…let’s wait and see how we perform in the away games. If we pick up 3 wins on tour, then the BP will not be an issue.

  • Comment 98, posted at 23.02.09 14:31:43 by Villie Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 95) : i am not sure about your certainty game. you mentioned it before but the lions beat them twice last year. and the lions aren’t playing in a humid durban.

  • Comment 99, posted at 23.02.09 14:33:15 by try time Reply

  • @Villie (Comment 98) : yeah i agree. but remember 50 points or more guarantees a home final. so don’t write off the value of bonus points just yet. but i feel if we win on saturday then we can take all four games.

  • Comment 100, posted at 23.02.09 14:36:31 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 99) :

    Hey I think the Bulls will keep winning all the way up to round 8 when they meet the crusaders.

    Bulls fans are going to be almost as unbearable as Sharks fans in the coming weeks. 😉

  • Comment 101, posted at 23.02.09 14:37:45 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 100) : and 13 x 4 equals 52. so every game we lose we need bp to keep our head above the water.

  • Comment 102, posted at 23.02.09 14:39:18 by try time Reply

  • @Ice (you can leave your hat on!) (Comment 83) :

    Well at least I now have company in you…thanks fellow troll….

  • Comment 103, posted at 23.02.09 14:39:41 by Hmmm Reply

  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 101) : yeah i am not as convinced as you though. my dead cert game this weekend is brumbies.

  • Comment 104, posted at 23.02.09 14:40:29 by try time Reply

  • this weekend is the hardest LMS, this is one of the fewer weekends that u can choose the reds or cheetahs to win, but which one?????

  • Comment 105, posted at 23.02.09 14:52:08 by willa Reply

  • @willa (Comment 105) : well that throws another spanner in the works. so maybe this isn’t panning out to be as certain as ksa thinks it is.

  • Comment 106, posted at 23.02.09 15:00:19 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 104) :

    Only if the Git acts as a secret agent for the brumbies. 🙂

  • Comment 107, posted at 23.02.09 15:07:43 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 105) :

    @try time (Comment 106) :

    You are both going on the assumption that you will HAVE to pick the Reds or Cheetahs at some stage.

    Who says you can’t win the competition by round 12 already? 😛

  • Comment 108, posted at 23.02.09 15:09:00 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I have picked the Reds this week. It’s an away game for the Cheetahs, so betting against them, no matter the opposition, is completely safe.

  • Comment 109, posted at 23.02.09 15:12:03 by robdylan Reply
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  • @willa (Comment 105) :

    Good question….

  • Comment 110, posted at 23.02.09 15:14:26 by Hmmm Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 109) : So have I. 😯

  • Comment 111, posted at 23.02.09 15:16:53 by McLovin Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 103) :

    I have always been a fan of Shrek..but sorry i am no Fiona! 😉 You need to get your eyes and ears tested! 🙄 😉

  • Comment 112, posted at 23.02.09 15:20:23 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 108) : you forgot the byes could leave you choosing a risky team.

  • Comment 113, posted at 23.02.09 15:24:54 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 113) : eg what if two teams you haven’t used yet are having their bye.

  • Comment 114, posted at 23.02.09 15:25:29 by try time Reply

  • thatr brings up an interesting point. what happens if you only have 2 teams left to pick and they both have a bye on the same weekend?

  • Comment 115, posted at 23.02.09 15:26:58 by try time Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 109) : thats brave considering the cheetahs played well on saturday, and reds will be facing jet lag.

  • Comment 116, posted at 23.02.09 15:28:05 by try time Reply

  • @Ice (you can leave your hat on!) (Comment 112) : 😆 😆 😆 😈

  • Comment 117, posted at 23.02.09 15:35:27 by Charlie Reply

  • aah but the total dead cert this weekend depends on the ref. if the waratahs have stuart then you have to go waratahs cos stuart has cheated 2 games in row for his home team.

  • Comment 118, posted at 23.02.09 15:46:13 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 115) : then you have to pick one and you lose cos they aren’t playing.

    This competition does assume a basic level of intelligence… 🙂

  • Comment 119, posted at 23.02.09 15:49:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ice (you can leave your hat on!) (Comment 112) :

    So you are not a beautiful princess by day!??!
    Oh…what a disappointment…I always thought you were….

    Psssst…Shrek is not a troll……

  • Comment 120, posted at 23.02.09 15:52:10 by Hmmm Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 119) : thats rubbish what happens if they win their vodacom cup game that weekend.

  • Comment 121, posted at 23.02.09 15:54:11 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 121) : the Crusaders don’t play in the Vodacom Cup 🙂

  • Comment 122, posted at 23.02.09 16:05:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 119) : oo – i did not calculate byes to my LMS – it is getting more and more complicated by a minute…

  • Comment 123, posted at 23.02.09 16:31:46 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 119) : does it also mean that LMS will finish a week before last pool games – that is provided that there is still somebody standing?

  • Comment 124, posted at 23.02.09 16:34:52 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 93) : i wonder what is happening with ruan’s kicking. he did well last year. maybe he should be allowed to kick one whole game to get back on track.

  • Comment 125, posted at 23.02.09 16:36:56 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 124) : nah… cos if you think about it, each team plays 13 games. So there are 13 games and 1 bye for each team, meaning a total duration of 14 rounds for the round-robin phase. 14 teams, 14 rounds, one team per round and make damn sure you DON’T pick the team that has a bye 🙂

  • Comment 126, posted at 23.02.09 16:37:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 126) : Sack ! Didn’t think of that. The reds playing this weekend?

  • Comment 127, posted at 23.02.09 16:40:40 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 126) : make sense 💡 looks like my math is failing me..

  • Comment 128, posted at 23.02.09 16:48:46 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 127) : indeed they iz

  • Comment 129, posted at 23.02.09 17:11:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • getting quiet at this hour. need to go and do some work – so bye now

  • Comment 130, posted at 23.02.09 17:43:10 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 130) : buh bye

  • Comment 131, posted at 23.02.09 18:23:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • Well Rob, I hope you’re right about the 3rd gear thing. They better get out of it fast though.

    No tour has ever been a cake walk for an SA team.
    The referees over there will be less neutral than before.
    With the tough games at home getting 5-pointers will also become harder.

  • Comment 132, posted at 23.02.09 18:39:14 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 115) :

    If that happens then we have a problem. 😉

    The last byes are in round 11. If you are still around in round 11, you should have 4 teams left to pick

  • Comment 133, posted at 23.02.09 18:41:07 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Okay let’s do this slowly. 😛

    Round 1 you have 14 teams to pick from
    Round 2 you have 13 teams to pick from
    Round 3 you have 12 teams to pick from
    Round 4 you have 11 teams to pick from
    Round 5 you have 10 teams to pick from
    Round 6 you have 9 teams to pick from
    Round 7 you have 8 teams to pick from
    Round 8 you have 7 teams to pick from
    Round 9 you have 6 teams to pick from
    Round 10 you have 5 teams to pick from
    Round 11 you have 4 teams to pick from
    Round 12 you have 3 teams to pick from
    Round 13 you have 2 teams to pick from
    Round 14 you have 1 team to pick

  • Comment 134, posted at 23.02.09 18:46:05 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 134) : That looks like a prime example of Blonde language 😀 thanx KSA

  • Comment 135, posted at 23.02.09 21:48:10 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 120) :

    PSSSTTTT….A troll is a fearsome member of a race of creatures from Norse mythology. Originally more or less the Nordic equivalents of giants, although often smaller in size, the different depictions have come to range from the fiendish giants – similar to the ogres of England (also called Trolls at times)…… 🙄

    I am not no Princess by day…I am the fricken QUEEN…ALWAYS!

    Rob – are you sure you meant Trol(l) with a “T”??? 😆

    @KSA Shark © (Comment 134) :

    Well done – A+ for you in Blonde!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 136, posted at 24.02.09 07:34:23 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
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  • @Ice (you can leave your hat on!) (Comment 136) :

    Girlfriend I think you should use that ‘ignore’ button on your keyboard whenever Shrek, I mean Hmmm makes a comment cos it usually doesn’t make sense. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 137, posted at 24.02.09 07:46:14 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 137) : 😆

    GOODMORNING EVERYBODY !!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 138, posted at 24.02.09 07:51:19 by Charlie Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 138) :

    Good morning Adi, I mean Charlie! 😈

  • Comment 139, posted at 24.02.09 08:00:55 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 137) :

    Ag Wes, but I like a good fight!! 😈

    Morning Lads! 😀

  • Comment 140, posted at 24.02.09 08:15:45 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
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  • @Ice (you can leave your hat on!) (Comment 140) :

    So your work has allowed Sharksworld back as an accesible site? 😎

    or are you at home?

  • Comment 141, posted at 24.02.09 08:24:41 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 139) : Hosh mase kind, hoe lyk ‘ie nomme ❓

  • Comment 142, posted at 24.02.09 08:34:05 by Charlie Reply

  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 141) :

    Has always been – I have just been buried in work – but its a bit quiet now…so have time for the odd comment or fight! 😉

  • Comment 143, posted at 24.02.09 08:50:31 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
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  • @Fyndraai (Comment 132). You make a really good point about the tougher home games. The Sharks have got to click NOW. The good news is Pieterson is on the try scoring sheet. 07 his try scoring had a lot to do with success while last year his lack of scoring had a lot to do with the struggle. We might have an easier tour than normal (it’s never easy) but that makes our home games much harder when we are supposed to be scoring BPs. We have to win at least 3 on tour and then we need to try squeeze bonus points from the Tahs, Saders and Brumbies at home and hopefully NEVER lose at home. Where are we playing Bulls?

  • Comment 144, posted at 24.02.09 09:04:45 by deanoelsch Reply

  • We play Bulls too in Durban. That’s Saders, Tahs, Bulls and Brumbies in Durban? How many bonus points can we realistically get from those 4? Not many I feel.

  • Comment 145, posted at 24.02.09 09:06:16 by deanoelsch Reply

  • @deanoelsch (Comment 144) : jp would have two or three more tries had stefan passed him some more ball.

  • Comment 146, posted at 24.02.09 09:18:01 by try time Reply

  • @deanoelsch (Comment 145) : don’t get me started again on the bp situation.

  • Comment 147, posted at 24.02.09 09:18:39 by try time Reply

  • @Ice (you can leave your hat on!) (Comment 136) :

    Yeh but Shrek is still an adorable Ogre

    Oh I do apologise my Queen…how could I ever get it wrong…

  • Comment 148, posted at 24.02.09 09:36:39 by Hmmm Reply

  • @wpw (Comment 137) :


    Keep you fat nose to yourself 👿

    And look who’s talking….you think Mujati can scrum….

    Well I might act like Shrek but you look like him…

  • Comment 149, posted at 24.02.09 09:37:59 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 149) : I am trying to work out who you support? Anyone?

  • Comment 150, posted at 24.02.09 09:41:25 by deanoelsch Reply

  • @Ice (you can leave your hat on!) (Comment 143) :

    All the fight needs now is mud (and no…..for my entertainment not the rest of you ou’s)

  • Comment 151, posted at 24.02.09 09:47:52 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 149) :

    Good morning Hmmm 😕

  • Comment 152, posted at 24.02.09 09:55:08 by wpw Reply
  • Super XV of Week Two:

    1 Gurthro Steenkamp (Bulls), 2 Tatafu Polota-Nau (Waratahs), 3 Al Baxter (Waratahs), 4 Bakkies Botha (Bulls), 5 Jason Eaton (Hurricanes), 6 Luke Watson (Stormers), 7 Kieran Read (Crusaders), 8 Pierre Spies (Bulls), 9 Fourie du Preez (Bulls), 10 Quade Cooper (Reds), 11 Lote Tuqiri (Waratahs), 12 Ma’a Nonu (Hurricanes), 13 Anthony Tuitavake (Blues), 14 Rene Ranger (Blues), Mark Gerrard (Brumbies).

    Bok Barometer of Week Two:

    1 Gurthro Steenkamp (Bulls), 2 Derick Kuün (Bulls), 3 Jannie du Plessis (Sharks), 4 Bakkies Botha (Bulls), 5 Gerhard Mostert (Lions), 6 Luke Watson (Stormers), 7 Duane Vermeulen (Stormers), 8 Pierre Spies (Bulls), 9 Fourie du Preez (Bulls), 10 Morné Steyn (Bulls), 11 JP Pietersen (Sharks), 12 Jean de Villiers (Stormers), 13 Adrian Jacobs (Sharks), 14 Ashwin Willemse (Lions), 15 Stefan Terblanche (Sharks).

  • Comment 153, posted at 24.02.09 10:25:30 by Charlie Reply

  • ok – so in “web-speak”, a troll is person who wonders around posting intentionally contentious material on blog sites or forums for the sole purpose of inciting a reaction and getting other posters worked up.

    Hmmm is our most notorious troll. Those who used to hang out on RW will remember danie – pretty much the übertroll. Keo has had its share of trolls too – The Tackler, StMichel and skopskiet come to mind.

    The most important thing to realise about trolls is that they do it purely for the reaction they get – the joy at seeing someone else lose their cool in response to the drivel that they post.

    I urge you all to bear that in mind.

  • Comment 154, posted at 24.02.09 10:27:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 153) : I reckon Spies and Kankowski will be in the Super 14 team of the week, 10 out of 14 weeks. Some might argue Watson even deserved it this past weekend. I wouldn’t enter that debate.

    Why has SA always had 75 world class loosies but half a flyhalf?

  • Comment 155, posted at 24.02.09 10:27:35 by deanoelsch Reply

  • @deanoelsch (Comment 150) :

    Oh that should be easy…
    The LIONS…I am just realistic about the way they play after Saturday….

  • Comment 156, posted at 24.02.09 10:33:02 by Hmmm Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 154) : Oh so he is a troll. Haven’t followed enough to know the individuals. I couldn’t care less for Trolls. Won’t bother amusing him then…

  • Comment 157, posted at 24.02.09 10:33:35 by deanoelsch Reply

  • I am unable to register on LIONS pride (LIONS supporters blog)….

    Do you guys think that is merely a coincidence…. LOL

  • Comment 158, posted at 24.02.09 10:34:03 by Hmmm Reply

  • @deanoelsch (Comment 155) : cos all the flyhalves are playing scrummie.

  • Comment 159, posted at 24.02.09 10:37:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • morning 🙂

  • Comment 160, posted at 24.02.09 10:38:12 by rekinek Reply
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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 157) :

    Oh don’t just assume that you would be able to amuse me…it takes more than a red nose/big feet and an orange afro….

  • Comment 161, posted at 24.02.09 10:38:28 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 158) :

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 162, posted at 24.02.09 10:40:54 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 152) :


  • Comment 163, posted at 24.02.09 10:42:52 by Hmmm Reply


  • Comment 164, posted at 24.02.09 10:48:38 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 157) : you’ll get to know us all in time.

    Just ask me if you want a (completely unbiased) bio on any particular poster 🙂

    The quid pro quo is that you have to introduce yourself first! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 165, posted at 24.02.09 10:55:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Dive Pass (Comment 164) : exactly 🙂

    Especially not if you’re a billy goat.

  • Comment 166, posted at 24.02.09 10:56:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 154) :

    Oh then I am not a troll…..I could not care if people react or not…
    I give my opinion…not for acceptance but because I can….

  • Comment 167, posted at 24.02.09 11:20:07 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Ice (you can leave your hat on!) (Comment 162) :

    I’ll give them credit for being pro-active…cozz if I managed to get on there….oooooo jinne…my fellow LIONS would have known exactly how I felt…

    I did not even get a response on my query as to why I am unable to sign-up…

  • Comment 168, posted at 24.02.09 11:25:46 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 167) : Do you ever re-read your comments? You are a troll who doesn’t recognise himself as being a troll – we’re not that surprised.

  • Comment 169, posted at 24.02.09 12:21:41 by Frisbee Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 154) :

    Thank goodness I ain’t one 🙄

  • Comment 170, posted at 24.02.09 12:31:46 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 170) : dude, you haven’t learned yet that you need to wait under the bridge, instead of doing your little dance right on top of it 🙂

  • Comment 171, posted at 24.02.09 12:41:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • Too little rugby chat going on here…

  • Comment 172, posted at 24.02.09 12:42:20 by deanoelsch Reply

  • @deanoelsch (Comment 172) : ok – fair point.

    Bring up a subject 🙂

  • Comment 173, posted at 24.02.09 12:50:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • “The heat in Durban has been almost unmanageable as Plumtree pointed out that during last week’s match against the Lions his players lost between 3-4kg in body-weight and were forced to drink up to five litres of water afterwards to replenish their depleted bodies.” 😯 ! from

  • Comment 174, posted at 24.02.09 12:53:30 by Frisbee Reply

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    It was just below 30 degree at the 7pm kick off…..not to mention the humidity

  • Comment 175, posted at 24.02.09 12:58:09 by Dive Pass Reply

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  • Predictions for this weekend? Blues – Stormers (both are playing garbage rugby), Reds – Cheetahs (both are playing decent rugby but are just garabge teams).

  • Comment 176, posted at 24.02.09 12:59:45 by deanoelsch Reply

  • @deanoelsch (Comment 172) :

    You ain’t seen nothing yet… 😈 😈

  • Comment 177, posted at 24.02.09 13:01:41 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
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  • @Frisbee (Comment 169) :

    “re-read” ? That will suggest that I read my own comments…if I type it why should I read or re-read it!??!

    All of a sudden trolls seem intelligent when compared to the rest!!!!!

  • Comment 178, posted at 24.02.09 13:04:39 by Hmmm Reply

  • @deanoelsch (Comment 176) : ok… Saders, Tahs, Sharks, Brumbies, Bulls, Stormers, Reds.

    That’s what I reckon.

  • Comment 179, posted at 24.02.09 13:07:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 170) :

    I donno….you look a lot closer to one than I do…plus you think Mujati can scrum…

  • Comment 180, posted at 24.02.09 13:07:52 by Hmmm Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 179) :

    And Chiefs

  • Comment 181, posted at 24.02.09 13:09:40 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 178) : I really don’t think you warrant the time for a response. As deanoelsch just pointed out, this is a rugby site, lets talk rugby.

    But since you ask; on this thread alone you have been generally offensive to robdylan, to KSA Shark, to Charlie, wpw, and CS. I respect and enjoy all 5 of the above-mentioned – but I especially take what both robdylan and KSA Shark say seriously. You treat them both with a patronising attitude and you act like we shouldn’t dare take what they say seriously. You actually patronise all of us.

    Lay-off the pathetic squandering of your wiry opinions, and try and contribute meaningfully to rugby debate. OK?

  • Comment 182, posted at 24.02.09 13:23:41 by Frisbee Reply

  • @Frisbee (Comment 182) : Ignoring troll Fail…

  • Comment 183, posted at 24.02.09 13:29:11 by deanoelsch Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 179) : That’s what I went but I have had a mare so far. Saders by 5 was my call (16 – 11 after 79:58 minutes). SB Fail.

  • Comment 184, posted at 24.02.09 13:30:07 by deanoelsch Reply

  • @deanoelsch (Comment 183) : LOL!

    Man, I love failblog…

  • Comment 185, posted at 24.02.09 13:33:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 184) : I had a feeling about the Brumbies this week. Actually managed a GSP on SuperBru 🙂

  • Comment 186, posted at 24.02.09 13:34:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 181) :

    You reckon its gonna be a draw then? Wishful thinking…The kwaZULUnatal Chiefs – then you’re in with a shot..

  • Comment 187, posted at 24.02.09 13:39:36 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 183) : :mrgreen: 🙄

    I am going to choose the Reds to pull through on this one – by more than 10. And I think the Stormers’ will take their game by less than 7.

  • Comment 188, posted at 24.02.09 13:45:18 by Frisbee Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 186) :

    Show off. I didn’t do so well on Sb. 🙁

    Yesterday or the day before I said that there is really only one surething pick on LMS this week.

    I still stand by that but feel the predictions you made above are spot on, but only ONE of those games will be by a largish margin.

  • Comment 189, posted at 24.02.09 13:45:48 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Frisbee (Comment 188) : i thought maybe the cheetahs, the reds travelled back this week,some jetlag maybe, plus the chhetahs didnt look to bad last week

  • Comment 190, posted at 24.02.09 13:50:31 by willa Reply

  • @willa (Comment 190) :

    I see the game is on Sunday. I wonder if that is because of them having to travel back?

  • Comment 191, posted at 24.02.09 13:56:15 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 189) :

    Oops. I see I got 6 out of 7. 😎

    The Brumbies winning screwed me in SB AND LMS. 👿 😛

  • Comment 192, posted at 24.02.09 13:57:40 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 191) : And Sharks travel back from their last tour game and have to play on a Friday in Durban. I wonder who makes the schedule? Does it perhaps happen to live in Queensland? 😐

  • Comment 193, posted at 24.02.09 14:06:35 by deanoelsch Reply

  • @willa (Comment 190) : ya i’m not being very rational – just going on gut feel… Plus you have to choose the reds at some stage for LMS!!

  • Comment 194, posted at 24.02.09 14:07:41 by Frisbee Reply

  • @Frisbee (Comment 194) : best when you still have a lifeline 😛

  • Comment 195, posted at 24.02.09 14:16:46 by rekinek Reply
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  • I am considering Cheetah for my next pick in LMS 😉

  • Comment 196, posted at 24.02.09 14:25:02 by rekinek Reply
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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 193) :

    Yeah. It DOES make one wonder. MANY teams have had Saturday games and then flown back to play on a Saturday or even a Friday. The Reds play on friday and can rest until SUNDAY before they need to play. 👿

  • Comment 197, posted at 24.02.09 14:37:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 196) :

    Please tell me that when you say “next”, you have not already picked one for this week and you are considering picking the Cheetahs over the Hurricanes in rnd 4. 😉

  • Comment 198, posted at 24.02.09 14:39:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @deanoelsch (Comment 193) : aren’t we playing the Brumbies when we get back?

    Tell you what, THAT game is going to be tough

  • Comment 199, posted at 24.02.09 14:57:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 199) :

    Yes we do. AND the Brumbies will already have been in SA for a week by the time we arrive in SA.

  • Comment 200, posted at 24.02.09 15:01:15 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 198) : hehehe. I know that picking Cheetahs is brave but I am not going to be that brave. I am still stuck on this week.

  • Comment 201, posted at 24.02.09 15:02:05 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 201) : I’ve picked the same game, but the other team. It’s a tough call.

    BTW, you know how to add a user pic?

  • Comment 202, posted at 24.02.09 15:03:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 202) : now you made me doubt my “possible choice”. After dwelling at the bottom of SB pool I am very prone to that 🙄

    What do you mean “how to add a user pick”? I know how to make a pick for next round (I think 🙄

  • Comment 203, posted at 24.02.09 15:22:07 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 203) : nah – pic without a k… as in picture.

  • Comment 204, posted at 24.02.09 15:24:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 204) : aaaaaa 💡 I actually don’t, but that’s probably better (may be scary)

  • Comment 205, posted at 24.02.09 15:44:33 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 205) : he he… can’t be worse than some we have on here :mrgreen:

  • Comment 206, posted at 24.02.09 16:02:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Frisbee (Comment 182) :

    Why did you waste your time in comment 182 then…

    And by the way…if you even bothered reading you would find out that I was defending myself (well I cannot recall me having a tiff with KSA), but defending myself against the rest…merely because I dare say the Sharks look far from a top 4 contender if they are going to play the way they did against the LIONS (in both rounds actually), but especially the LIONS…and the result went to the least bad of the two terrible teams…
    So because you respect their opinion I should just bend over and take their insults up the pie-whole like a well ridden Stormers supporter…in your dreams buddy…I will defend myself against no matter who….
    And since you taking me on…..Stop being so touchy and stay out of other people’s business if you just gonna be wasting their time by replying out of your ass because you did not even bother reading in the first place…
    I am not going to lie about my opinion on the Sharks performance just to make all the touchy and one-eyed Sharks feeling better…but if you bothered to read you’d know I ranted cozz I expected a lot more referring to the Sharks potential on attack and had the LIONS never made mistakes it would have felt like the Sharks would never score…and that with a Kokky/Ruan/Steyn/Adi/Odwa/JP/Steph backline!??????????!

  • Comment 207, posted at 24.02.09 16:36:28 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Ice (you can leave your hat on!) (Comment 187) :

    I am going on the first two round performances and the fact that the Sharks are travelling east….
    But as I said…a week is a long time in Super rugby…anything can happen and the Sharks NEED this win…as even though they will be playing all the other home games in autumn…they have tough games in the Crusaders/Brumbies/Tahs/etc….so bonus points won’t come cheap…..

  • Comment 208, posted at 24.02.09 16:41:16 by Hmmm Reply

  • Here are the stats from the Stormers vs Sharks game….

    2 Tries 2
    1 from 2 Conversion goals 2 from 2
    1 from 1 Penalty goals 2 from 6
    66.7% Kick at goal success 50.0%
    0 Dropped goals 0

    31 Kicks from hand 33
    105 Passes 120
    70 Runs 91
    405 Metres run with ball 426

    4 Clean breaks 5
    18 Defenders beaten 11
    6 Offloads 16
    55 from 60 (91.67%) Rucks won 59 from 66 (89.39%)
    13 Turnovers conceded 14

    124 Tackles 99
    12 Missed tackles 17
    91.18% Tackling success rate 85.34%

    Set pieces
    6 won, 1 lost Scrums on own feed 10 won, 1 lost
    85.7% Scrum success rate 90.9%
    11 won, 5 lost Lineouts on own throw 3 won, 2 lost
    68.8% Lineout success rate 60.0%

    19 Penalties conceded 18
    0/0 Yellow/red cards 0/0

  • Comment 209, posted at 24.02.09 16:43:12 by Hmmm Reply

  • From that the Stormers set pieces did not look too much worse than the Sharks…and from this it would seem the Stormers were also rucking vedry well….

  • Comment 210, posted at 24.02.09 16:49:39 by Hmmm Reply

  • oooo some upset people here. i’m not a big stormers fan – but must say although sharks were slowly getting the upper hand the stormers were far from being a push over.

  • Comment 211, posted at 24.02.09 17:13:04 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 211) :

    Agreed….but I feel it is cozz the Sharks are not playing well and have not this comp…
    But dare I say that and I am all kinds of stuff…
    Seems black and white is the new baby blue…

  • Comment 212, posted at 24.02.09 17:28:20 by Hmmm Reply

  • @rekinek (Comment 211) : @Hmmm (Comment 212) :

    Oh and I dislike the Stormers most of all teams…

    But only cozz WpW supports them and he thinks Mujati can scrum…

  • Comment 213, posted at 24.02.09 17:31:51 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 213) :

    Wes thought Eddie Andrews could scrum too…

    Hmmm talk is cheap and the Bulls and Sharks will make the play-offs and the Stormers won’t…

  • Comment 214, posted at 25.02.09 04:06:02 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 209) :

    You trust WP stats… rotflmao…

    Look no further than Verusco…

    “n the Stormers v Sharks match, Daniel/Deysel and Burger/Louw cancelled each other out when it came to tackle efficiency (this was no game for the faint-hearted) and cleanouts at the breakdowns.

    But, tellingly, the Sharks duo gained more than twice as many metres as Burger and Louw (121m to 52m), had twice as many runs with the ball (9 to 4); hit the ball up more than three times as much (21-6); made four times as many tackle breaks (4-1); and carried the ball three times more (18-6) than their Cape opponents.

    A clearer picture of contrasting tactics and playing styles emerges when you then consider that Burger and Louw passed the ball three times as much as Daniel and Deysel (15 to 5).

    While it’s debatable whether Deysel deserved the man of the match award (a subjective, emotional decision in any case: my vote would have gone to scrumhalf Rory Kockott), from a statistical point of view the blond back-rower can’t be faulted: most metres gained, most carries and most hit-ups paints a bruising picture of how the Sharks went about their business.”

  • Comment 215, posted at 25.02.09 06:22:53 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 214) :

    If both teams continue as current form…I might even suggest the Sharks have a long shot…

  • Comment 216, posted at 25.02.09 17:40:28 by Hmmm Reply

  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 215) :

    Those were not WP stats…

  • Comment 217, posted at 25.02.09 17:42:28 by Hmmm Reply

  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 215) :

    I did not go into the combinations or individual players stats…but if what you are saying is correct…then the Stormers backline must have had a field day with the Sharks backline…if my 5 sec math’s calc is correct….

  • Comment 218, posted at 25.02.09 17:45:41 by Hmmm Reply


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