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WP coaching ‘exodus’ to Sarries

Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Stormers, WP on 23 Feb 2009 at 08:44
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Western Province are struggling to keep a number of their players and coaches in Cape Town.

Afrikaans Sunday newspaper Sondag reported that Brendan Venter, the technical advisor of the Stormers, has approached Matthew Proudfoot, WP’s new forwards coach to join him at Saracens from July.

Rugby 365 reports that Venter was appointed coach of Saracens after Eddie Jones quit the post last month and will join them before the start of the next English season.

Proudfoot was approached personally by Venter, while Stormers players – including Schalk Brits and Schalk Burger – have received offers from the English club.

Stormers media liaison Frikkie Erasmus referred the matter to Western Province, but Sondag confirmed that Stormers coach Rassie Erasmus will meet with Venter on Tuesday to talk about the offer and Venter’s path forward in his remaining months at the team.

Western Province CEO Rob Wagner denied there was ever an offer.

“It is absolute rubbish, Proudfoot is going nowhere and we have received no request that he can leave us.”

Proudfoot was highly successful during his stint at Potchefstroom University.


  • Of course Rob doesn’t know about it.What does he know?

  • Comment 1, posted at 23.02.09 09:33:29 by provincejoulekkading Reply
  • Let Proudfoot go. The Stormers scrum is kaka enough with him there.

  • Comment 2, posted at 23.02.09 12:37:14 by Loosehead Reply

  • @Loosehead (Comment 2) :

    You can’t make a silk purse from a sow’s ear…

  • Comment 3, posted at 23.02.09 13:01:21 by Dive Pass Reply

    Dive Pass
  • What goes around comes around 😛 😉

  • Comment 4, posted at 23.02.09 14:05:13 by Villie Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 4) : 😛

    My thoughts this when reading this as well.

    Rassie Erasmus will meet with Venter on Tuesday to talk about the offer and Venter’s path forward in his remaining months at the team.

    Sort of a “watse kak is dit die dat jy ons ouens will wegvat? As jy nie oppas nie sit ek vir Waghond Frikkie op jou!!!!!!!!”

  • Comment 5, posted at 23.02.09 14:22:53 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 5) : Yip. I have no sympathy. They poached Rassie from Free State…now Sarries are poaching from them! 😈

  • Comment 6, posted at 23.02.09 14:24:38 by Villie Reply
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  • @Villie (Comment 6) :

    I would seriously like to know what rassie wants to discuss with him? It can’t be about Venter’s offer, because that is a done deal, so it has to be about Venter wanting to take some familiar faces with him.

  • Comment 7, posted at 23.02.09 14:31:57 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Villie (Comment 6) :

    All teams poach.

    Let us NOT begin discussing the Sharks poaching habits. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 8, posted at 23.02.09 14:33:38 by wpw Reply
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 5) :


  • Comment 9, posted at 23.02.09 14:45:53 by Hmmm Reply

  • @wpw (Comment 8) :

    Except the LIONS…well if contracting primary school kids is seen as poaching then I guess then I guess the LIONS do to….

  • Comment 10, posted at 23.02.09 14:48:41 by Hmmm Reply

  • Rumours over here have the Force trying to convince Jake White to be their new coach…

  • Comment 11, posted at 25.02.09 06:28:22 by bryce_in_oz Reply

  • @bryce_in_oz (Comment 11) :

    Saw it thanks.

    Have put Brett Harris’ take on it up.

  • Comment 12, posted at 25.02.09 07:19:16 by KSA Shark © Reply

    KSA Shark ©
  • Don’t you just love the way a new broom sweeps everything in it’s path.

    I’m not saying Venter will fail but he will be a LOT less successfull than Jones.


    Andrew Baldock, PA Sport Rugby Union Correspondent

    Several Saracens players face uncertain futures following one-to-one meetings with the Guinness Premiership club’s new rugby director Brendan Venter.

    Saracens say it would be “completely inappropriate” to comment on what they termed “private meetings,” but they have already started working with players’ agents and the Professional Rugby Players’ Association.

    Venter will take over from Australian Eddie Jones at the end of this season.

    And a growing South African influence at Vicarage Road suggests next season’s recruitment could be headlined by star Springboks.

    Flanker Schalk Burger and full-back Conrad Jantjes are among those to have already been linked with moves to the Premiership.

    Either way, former Springboks centre Venter looks set to oversee a major clear-out that could include international players.

    Saracens tonight issued a statement, outlining the current position, posted on the club’s official website, http://www.saracens.com.

    “He (Venter) wanted to explain his plans for next season, openly and honestly, and to end any uncertainty,” said the club.

    “Many of the players were enthused and excited by what they heard; inevitably, some were disappointed.

    “It would be completely inappropriate for the club to make any specific comment on these private meetings.

    “Clearly, every supporter will have their own view on who should play and who should not.

    “Everybody has their own favourites, however, in any sporting organisation, it can only be the view of the coach or director of rugby that counts.

    “In the England rugby team, that is Martin Johnson’s view. In the Saracens team this season, it is Eddie Jones’ view. In the Saracens team for next season, it is Brendan Venter’s view. There is no other way.

    “Some will question why these decisions have been made in February, and not at the end of the season.

    “Other clubs may choose to adjust their squads in April or May. Our logic is that, by being open and honest in February, we afford the affected players a realistic chance of finding a new club.

    “Selfishly, the club could have waited until the end of the season, but most clubs will have finalised their 09/10 squads by then and, in all probability, the affected players would be left high and dry.

    “The club is already working with the various players’ agents and the PRA to assist in securing their futures, and, without exception, the club will act decently and honestly.

    “This has been a difficult week, but the reality is that Saracens is not immune to the economic realities being faced by many companies across the country.

    “The club has complete confidence in the professionalism and commitment of its current squad, and looks forward to a strong end to the season under Eddie Jones.”

    Saracens currently lie seventh in the Premiership, 10 points off the title play-off places.

    Their best hope of silverware this season seemingly rests with the European Challenge Cup, having secured a home quarter-final against Newcastle in April.

    Saracens’ current squad includes the likes of England captain Steve Borthwick, former Great Britain rugby league skipper Andy Farrell and ex-New Zealand Test scrum-half Justin Marshall.

    And under Jones’ tutelage, they have also continued to develop some of English rugby’s finest young talent, notably Alex Goode, Noah Cato, Adam Powell and Andy Saull.

  • Comment 13, posted at 25.02.09 08:12:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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