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Deysel on his way home

Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :Original Content on 1 Mar 2009 at 07:16
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Jean Deysel is winging his way back to South Africa.

Sharksworld has learnt that Sharks looseforward Jean Deysel is no longer part of the Sharks touring party after suffering damage to his knee early on in the Sharks victory over the Chiefs.

The up and coming young Justin Downey is on his way across to New Zealand as replacement.

While Downey is a more than able replacement, the loss of Deysel will be a blow to the Sharks 2009 campaign.

Downey (22), is a product of the Sharks Academy. This young flanker is a true local product, he attended Northwood Boys High, before attending the Sharks Academy. He has represented the Sharks at Under 16, Duikers and Under 21 level.

Downey was also sent to the Murray Mexted Academy (IRANZ) in 2007 in a show of support by the Union for his talents.

More details on the exact extent of Deysel’s injury and the period of unavailability will be known once further scans are done on his arrival in South Africa.


  • Not good news at all this. 🙁

  • Comment 1, posted at 01.03.09 07:47:07 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Arghhh;-( my FL has to change now! Shyte. Now I have too pick Spies, not that I’m complaining. Does’nt sound to good if they send him straight back. For the better though. But eish Wolla! Gaan jou mis cuzin!

  • Comment 2, posted at 01.03.09 08:53:33 by JustPlainSHARK Reply
  • downey brings a different dynamic, for sure. I reckon we need to get John and Beast in as the starting props to give up a few more bashing options in the pack. Downey, Botes and Kanlo will certainly be the fastest loose trio in the comp

  • Comment 3, posted at 01.03.09 09:22:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • this is a huge loss

    i dont agree that downey will fill the shoes as we dont have an enforcer type flank anymore

    also deysel is a unique flan in the sense of , he is a fetcher and a enforcer driving type flank

    in kanko , botes , daniel , and now even downey as have 4 simular type loose forwards

  • Comment 4, posted at 01.03.09 09:53:57 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • this is where our depth in certain positions is gonna be tested

  • Comment 5, posted at 01.03.09 09:54:53 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 4) : flan = flank

  • Comment 6, posted at 01.03.09 10:00:49 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Don’t fret boys, the Sharks will smash the Blues.

  • Comment 7, posted at 01.03.09 11:16:00 by Morné Reply
  • @Morné (Comment 7) :

    Wasn’t that supposed to happen yesterday as well? 🙁

  • Comment 8, posted at 01.03.09 11:43:04 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 8) :

    No, strangely you will find I told Rob over MSN the Stormers will lose.

    My thoughts are actually published on the main page here.

  • Comment 9, posted at 01.03.09 11:49:35 by Morné Reply
  • Aus have lost 7 wickets this morning and there is STILL half an hour til lunch. And I can’t freaking watch cos my decoder is on the blink! AHHHHHHHH 👿

  • Comment 10, posted at 01.03.09 12:01:54 by klempie Reply

  • @klempie (Comment 10) :

    I am in the office. 👿

  • Comment 11, posted at 01.03.09 12:04:37 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 9) :

    I was expecting a snotting of note for the Blues.

  • Comment 12, posted at 01.03.09 12:05:15 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 10) : @KSA Shark © (Comment 11) :

    Gents, log onto http://www.myp2p.eu and simply follow links to sports channels to watch online…

    Just delete this post or link once done KSA 😉

    We dont want them to shut it down now…

  • Comment 13, posted at 01.03.09 12:13:56 by Morné Reply
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 12) :

    Well I reckon that they could have snotted them, but would not have given my thoughts on the article I just posted.

  • Comment 14, posted at 01.03.09 12:14:38 by Morné Reply
  • WICKET!! Haddin gone. That’s big. Can we bowl them out before lunch. Will be effing incredible if we do.

  • Comment 15, posted at 01.03.09 12:26:24 by klempie Reply

  • Well, we couldn’t get the last wicket. But DAMN!! 8 wickets in the session! What a comeback! The lead is 420 which is in Perth territory. We will have to break the fourth innings winning total to win but there is more than enough time. We just need the last wicket quickly after lunch.

  • Comment 16, posted at 01.03.09 12:35:32 by klempie Reply

  • Why not just play Bismark at 7? He is fast and skillfull enough.

  • Comment 17, posted at 01.03.09 13:17:39 by Loosehead Reply

  • @Loosehead (Comment 17) : not actually a terrible idea that, all things considered

  • Comment 18, posted at 01.03.09 13:56:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Loosehead (Comment 17) : @robdylan (Comment 18) : that was somehitng i mentioned on Keo earlier

    the options are also that sykes who is playing very good rugby can move to 7 too with hargreaves then starting at flank

    thats the only wekaness with bissy going 7 is you lose another lineout option

  • Comment 19, posted at 01.03.09 14:24:13 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 19) : hargreaves at lock i meant

  • Comment 20, posted at 01.03.09 14:29:55 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • I don’t think it’s a good idea at all.

    If you consider the backup available for each position.

    If Bismarck plays looseforward (other than the obvious issue of playing out of position) then the replacement would be Burden. if the just replaced Deysel then the replacement would be (IS) Downey.

    Of those two I’d prefer Downey to fit the squad make-up better. Moving Bismarck would just create unecessary upheaval in the front row.

  • Comment 21, posted at 01.03.09 14:40:27 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 19) :

    That is ludicrous though. Hargreaves is not up to being a starting S14 lock yet.

    Why fiddle with the squad??? A flank is injured and is being replaced with a flank.

  • Comment 22, posted at 01.03.09 14:42:46 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I feared he hurt something when Luaki folded him over into a small parcel….
    Ready for the Sharks to post back home…

  • Comment 23, posted at 01.03.09 14:52:52 by Hmmm Reply

  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 21) : @KSA Shark © (Comment 21) :

    He is the only Sharks player to win balls on the ground…

  • Comment 24, posted at 01.03.09 14:53:44 by Hmmm Reply

  • Dont overcomplicate things.

    Play Botes 7, Keegan 6 and fly in the sub.

    Unlike the Stormers keep it simple…

  • Comment 25, posted at 01.03.09 14:54:08 by Morné Reply
  • Bismark that is…

  • Comment 26, posted at 01.03.09 14:54:25 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Morné (Comment 25) :

    Thank you.

    Eventually some sense. 🙂

  • Comment 27, posted at 01.03.09 14:55:19 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 27) :

    I know!

    Bismarck is an average hooker now you want to make him an average loosie!?!?!?

    Crazy! 😆

  • Comment 28, posted at 01.03.09 15:03:50 by Morné Reply
  • @Morné (Comment 28) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 29, posted at 01.03.09 15:05:58 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 28) :

    He carries the ball up very well….he is everywhere…he steals A LOT of ball…surely leading in turn overs this season…

  • Comment 30, posted at 01.03.09 15:07:13 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Morné (Comment 25) :

    I just think that that will bring old problems back to the Sharks….having 3 light loosies (Kanko is small for a 8 in size/weight)….

    And I bet an even lighter player in Skollie will be on the bench…
    Gonna make life tough for the tight 5!??!

  • Comment 31, posted at 01.03.09 15:08:50 by Hmmm Reply

  • @Hmmm (Comment 30) : @Hmmm (Comment 31) :

    Bismarck is a very good ‘loose’ player – it does not make him a good loosie however.

    The dynamics of the two positions are very, VERY different.

    Converting a loosie to a hooker will work in some instances (as is proven), covnerting a hooker to a loosie will fail more often than not (as is proven yet again).

    If you want I could highlight obvious and technical challenges in a move like this but that will be for tomorrow only not today (family time).

    In addition, a tight 5 defines its loosies, not the other way around.

  • Comment 32, posted at 01.03.09 15:18:51 by Morné Reply
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 21) : gm bro i hear whar you say but my only concern is we now dont have a fetcher as deysel was the actual fetcher

    and also deysel was the mongrel ball carrier

    on hargreaves i said what you just said about him to plamtree and he told me i was way wrong
    he does believe in hargreaves big time

  • Comment 33, posted at 01.03.09 15:29:27 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 32) :

    Does not mean cozz Schalk Brits was useless as a loosies every change will be…
    Yeh the two pos are VERY dif…so to is fullback and flayhalf or loosie and prop…or wing a loosie and all those moves have had great successes…

  • Comment 34, posted at 01.03.09 15:31:56 by Hmmm Reply

  • @sharks_lover (Comment 33) :

    Bizzy was the actual fetcher….

  • Comment 35, posted at 01.03.09 15:32:45 by Hmmm Reply

  • Gotto buzz guys…..cheers…

  • Comment 36, posted at 01.03.09 15:34:44 by Hmmm Reply

  • Cricket not looking too bad though…come-on SA you can pull it off….

  • Comment 37, posted at 01.03.09 15:40:55 by Hmmm Reply

  • the right thing to do against the Blues is play JB and Keegs together, with Justin on the bench. Remember how we stuffed a better Blues team last year with that exact combo?

  • Comment 38, posted at 01.03.09 16:44:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 38) : rob i have no doubt that is probably the way plam will go

  • Comment 39, posted at 01.03.09 16:50:52 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 39) : is plam a new age way to spell plum? 🙂

  • Comment 40, posted at 01.03.09 17:03:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • If we can survive til the close without losing another wicket we may even have a chance of winning this thing!

    Wait scratch that….ignore everything I just said. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 41, posted at 01.03.09 17:08:31 by klempie Reply

  • @klempie (Comment 41) : SHIT!! I said it and Biff just paid the price. 👿

  • Comment 42, posted at 01.03.09 17:09:28 by klempie Reply

  • OK well thanks to my silence we have negotiated the rest of the day without losing any. It’s a pity about Biff but we need 278 on the last day with 8 wickets in hand. It CAN be done!

  • Comment 43, posted at 01.03.09 18:17:24 by klempie Reply

  • I know this may seem strange, but I would play Kanko at 7 with Daniel at 8. Daniel showed what he could do at 8 in the cc last season, and Kanko has been doing some of the enforcing work lately. I believe he would be a very strong 7, and Daniel an excellent 8. Downey should be a replacement for now, and of course, once Deysel is back, he goes to 7 and Kanko back to 8.

  • Comment 44, posted at 01.03.09 22:31:40 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 44) : agree. Daniel was superb at 8. Allows him to use his skills to the fullest. I would let him and Ryan alternate between 7 and 8

  • Comment 45, posted at 01.03.09 23:19:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 33) : We’re not short of fetchers. JB and Keegs do this job. Wolla was the main ball carrier and wrecker amongst the loose trio and thats what we will miss the most. Just means the loosies will have a different dynamic. We have used Keegan, JB and Kanko as a combination with plenty of success….so while not ideal to lose a quality player like Deysel, not totally the end of the world!

  • Comment 46, posted at 01.03.09 23:34:10 by Villie Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 44) :

    More sense being spoken

    @Villie (Comment 46) :

    And even more

  • Comment 47, posted at 02.03.09 06:35:51 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 28) : “Bismarck is an average hooker now you want to make him an average loosie!?!?!?”

    Dude, next time you smoke your socks and drink from the toilet, don’t go near a keyboard. It makes you delusional.

    Unless you were comparing him to that incomparable textbook hooker Schalk Brits, then I bow to your superior rugby knowledge!

  • Comment 48, posted at 02.03.09 06:54:57 by Baldrick Reply

  • i would like to see sykes move to flank, and albert takeover lock.

  • Comment 49, posted at 02.03.09 07:59:00 by try time Reply

  • This is SO BAD!!

    and for my FL team.. 🙄

    BTW – where to they get all these youngsters?? From FHM Modelling school or what?? 😳 😉

  • Comment 50, posted at 02.03.09 08:39:59 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 32) :

    Bissie should be “loose” …he’s a “hooker”.. 🙄 😉

  • Comment 51, posted at 02.03.09 08:42:44 by Ice (you can leave your hat on!) Reply
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  • BAD – but as much as Keegan is not made of bricks like Wolla – his advantage is speed and acceleration…and that eye for space.

    He might not be able to force his way through and carry 4 guys…but if there’s space between them…he’ll find it.

    A lot of people have already written Ndlovu off…bad move. The kid is strong and very good on the ground as well. Let’s fly in Justin and remain positive. SHARKS forever!

  • Comment 52, posted at 02.03.09 08:53:23 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 52) :

    Oh yeah – experience blah blah blah… a lot of people have done good things on “dayboo”… 😛

  • Comment 53, posted at 02.03.09 08:55:04 by blackshark Reply

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  • @blackshark (Comment 52) : agreed ndlovu would have been my first choice. keegan battled again on saturday. keegan is a great player for teams like the reds and cheetahs but not the blues. before i get shot down from keeg fans, i am saying this due to his poor ball driving ability not his overall skill.

  • Comment 54, posted at 02.03.09 09:04:08 by try time Reply


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