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Jacobs put Fourie on the bench

Written by Andre Bosch (KSA Shark ©)

Posted in :In the news, Super 14 on 10 Mar 2009 at 08:30
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Adrian Jacobs has left World Cup winning Springbok centre Jaque Fourie with a lot of work to do if he hopes to regain his old No 13 jersey for the forthcoming series against the British and Irish Lions.

Gavin Rich writes in the Cape Argus that the Sharks centre was one of new national coach Peter de Villiers’ most surprising selections in 2008 – but he never let the coach or the Boks down and featured in several of the better attacking moments produced by the South Africans.

He has continued where he left off last year in the current Super 14, and JP Pietersen, the Sharks and Bok left wing, can thank his teammate for the fact that suddenly it is raining tries for him.

Jacobs did it against the Lions in the second game of the competition in Durban when he put in an electrifying burst down the left touch-line to put Pietersen in.

Against the Blues on Saturday Pietersen again profited and it was Jacobs’ run off some clever thinking from wing Odwa Ndungane, who made the initial break from turn-over ball at the ruck, that set the Sharks on the road to an impressive victory.

The Sharks’ 35-31 win was the stand-out performance of the weekend’s round of matches, but perhaps they were seduced by that early try, which came off turn-over ball, for they made life difficult for themselves in the first half through their failure to respect territory.

They gave away one try by playing from their own half, something they generally have stopped doing since John Plumtree took over as coach.

And they nearly gave away another, which could have seriously hurt their chances of winning.

Sharks assistant coach Grant Bashford, communicating by SMS from Brisbane, agreed that it was dumb rugby and poor decisions were made, but explained that the heavy wind that the Sharks were playing into in the first half made it difficult as it rendered kicking a treacherous occupation.

In the second half the Sharks were able to employ their usual excellent kicking game with much better effect, and by controlling both territory and possession they were able to ease away from their opponents.

It was only a late consolation try for the Blues that brought the hosts within range.

The most pleasing aspect for the Sharks would have been the way they managed to survive without Jean Deysel, and with matches against the Reds and Western Force to come, they stand an excellent chance of becoming the first South African team to return from tour with a 100 percent record.

The Sharks are one of three unbeaten teams after four rounds, but they do look the most likely to maintain that momentum.

The Bulls played their last match at Loftus for two months when they beat the Stormers 14-10, and in the two games they have played since their rout of the Blues there have been indications that they may be vulnerable when they play away from home.

The Waratahs continue to “win ugly”, as the Sydney media would have it, but as Wallaby coach Robbie Deans has already said, that is the way to do it early in the competition, and already there are signs that winning is inspiring confidence.

However, the Waratahs, who edged out the Reds in a Australian derby match, are in the same position as the Bulls in that they have played most of their games at home, whereas the Sharks have played three away.

The Crusaders have now dropped three games after their 6-0 defeat to the Highlanders, and could be said to be “doing a Proteas” for the way they have so suddenly lost their previous aura. There is good reason for it, of course, for they are missing some great players in addition to having lost their former winning coach Deans.


  • JP Pietersen, the Sharks and Bok left wing, can thank his teammate for the fact that suddenly it is raining tries for him

    Pierre Spies (Bulls), Casey Laulala (Crusaders), JP Pietersen (Sharks)

    Peter Hynes (Reds), Hosea Gear (Hurricanes), Ashwin Willemse (Lions), Cameron Shepherd (Force), Wynand Olivier (Bulls)

    Stirling Mortlock (Brumbies), Isaia Toeava (Blues), Brendon Leonard (Chiefs), Fourie du Preez (Bulls), Daniel Bowden (H’landers), Jason Shoemark (H’landers), Digby Ioane (Reds), John Smit (Sharks), Lote Tuqiri (Waratahs), Richard Kahui (Chiefs), Lelia Masaga (Chiefs), Timana Tahu (Waratahs), Mark Gerrard (Brumbies)

  • Comment 1, posted at 10.03.09 08:42:10 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 1) : it is a team game after all 😛

  • Comment 2, posted at 10.03.09 08:53:32 by rekinek Reply
  • GO ADI !!! GO SAHRKS !!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 3, posted at 10.03.09 08:56:55 by Charlie Reply
  • @rekinek (Comment 2) :

    Morning 🙂

    @Charlie (Comment 3) :

    Goooooooooooooo………….learn to spell. 😆 😛

  • Comment 4, posted at 10.03.09 09:01:07 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Wasn’t it just last year that Gavin Rich said Adi can’t tackle and JF is a better bet for the Boks??? 🙄

  • Comment 5, posted at 10.03.09 09:10:20 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 5) : good to see -the guy is making progress 😆

  • Comment 6, posted at 10.03.09 09:12:33 by rekinek Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 5) :

    @rekinek (Comment 6) :

    Gavin Rich is worrying me. He seems to be writing more and more pro-sharks stuff.

    Maybe he knows where the final is going to be and is looking see if he can get tickets. 😉

  • Comment 7, posted at 10.03.09 09:15:35 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 5) : 🙄

    Yep – but that was before he owned a Sharks jersey…

  • Comment 8, posted at 10.03.09 09:15:40 by blackshark Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 7) : hope he doesn’t jinx us. wasn’t he pro stormers? and look what happened :mrgreen:

  • Comment 9, posted at 10.03.09 09:24:32 by rekinek Reply
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 4) : Still sounds right OuBaas… 😉

  • Comment 10, posted at 10.03.09 09:40:04 by Charlie Reply
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 7) : I had a talk with him @ Newlands 😈

  • Comment 11, posted at 10.03.09 09:41:01 by Charlie Reply
  • @Charlie (Comment 11) :

    Did you explain the merits of supporting the Sharks with a flatty to the ear? 😛

  • Comment 12, posted at 10.03.09 09:42:09 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 11) : did he asked for tickets :mrgreen:
    anything interesting that you can share ❓

  • Comment 13, posted at 10.03.09 09:43:03 by rekinek Reply
  • @rekinek (Comment 9) :

    Me thinks he still is but he is getting tired of being laughed at by his peers. 😉

  • Comment 14, posted at 10.03.09 09:43:30 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • I would actually play Mossie at wing for the Boks and drop Habana. Mossie did very well at wing during the EOTY tour.

  • Comment 15, posted at 10.03.09 10:24:49 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 14) : softie :mrgreen:

  • Comment 16, posted at 10.03.09 10:25:10 by rekinek Reply
  • @Pokkel (Comment 15) :

    I would back you on that.

    Habana is pretty kak at the moment and has been for a while. Look what Dropping Nonu from the Canes side did to his game. Maybe Habana needs the same treatment.

  • Comment 17, posted at 10.03.09 10:29:51 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Seeing as JdV usually gets credit for when Adi plays well does Steyn now also get a share of the credit for Adi’s standard of play?

  • Comment 18, posted at 10.03.09 10:32:47 by McLovin Reply
  • Fourie should move to Cape Town. He’ll be back to the Bok 1st XV in no time. 😉 :mrgreen:

  • Comment 19, posted at 10.03.09 10:33:34 by McLovin Reply
  • @McLovin (Comment 18) : hehe – of course not -steyn is a general favourite to be criticised 😕
    there is so little written about him recently simply because the boy plays some good rugby.

  • Comment 20, posted at 10.03.09 10:38:20 by rekinek Reply
  • @McLovin (Comment 19) :

    He does need to move to a better union and I think CT is the place to be. In Dbn it will unsettle what we already have, In PTA it will unsettle ME, and in CT he could slot in perfectly outside JdV.

  • Comment 21, posted at 10.03.09 10:40:27 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 20) :

    I am glad there is so little written about him. He get’s distracted way to easily and the lack of media write-ups and interviews with him is exactly what he and the Sharks need right now.

    Just letting the boy settle back at 12 and play some good rugby is what is needed IMO.

  • Comment 22, posted at 10.03.09 10:42:14 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 21) : the it would be FS & Adi agains the other two – juicy 😎

  • Comment 23, posted at 10.03.09 10:43:06 by rekinek Reply
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 22) : yip.
    and have you noticed that he does not attempt his drops anymore. in fact it looks to me like entire backline (except rocket 😆 ) isn’t too flashy but just gets down to business – i like it.

  • Comment 24, posted at 10.03.09 10:48:35 by rekinek Reply
  • @rekinek (Comment 24) :

    It is good to see him playing in ONE position and as the season continues the benefits will increase. 😎

  • Comment 25, posted at 10.03.09 10:53:28 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 20) : I’ll take that one on the chin… and take an action!

    Altough – to be fair, I did write something nice about him after the Chiefs game.

  • Comment 26, posted at 10.03.09 10:56:56 by robdylan Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 26) : the one last year? I remember – about making the difference – maybe sth that was missing 🙂
    I must admit though that there was a time I was also frustrated with fransie. Fortunately I was not on line then.
    once I even made his defenders to watch a game again and count his passes :mrgreen:

  • Comment 27, posted at 10.03.09 11:12:10 by rekinek Reply
  • Jaque Fourie’s development is being stifled by his loyalty to the Lions while Adi Jacobs is thriving at the Sharks.

    Much has been made of their duel for the Springbok outside centre berth for the British & Irish Lions tour. However, at present Fourie is not even on the same planet as Jacobs in terms of form.

    This has much to do with the fact that he plays in a side who are distinctly mediocre. Mediocrity is contagious and Fourie is down with a bad bout of the stuff.

    That he has excelled on the Test stage despite playing with men inferior in ability and under limited coaches at provincial level says everything about his class.
    But it begs a deeper question: If Fourie has developed into one of the world’s best outside centres despite, not because of, playing at the Lions, how good could he be if he was surrounded by players of equal stature and coaches who were able to amplify his strengths and address his weaknesses?

    Fourie’s contract with the Lions ends in October 2010 but he would be well advised to negotiate an early release if he has any ambition of touching the ceiling of his potential. If not, he will forever be remembered as a good player, when he should be remembered as a great.

    While the 26-year-old Fourie falters, the incumbent Springbok outside centre Jacobs is thriving in an environment where he is constantly being challenged, improved and encouraged in self-expression.

    He has been outstanding in the opening four rounds of the tournament and barring a dramatic slump in form or serious injury he will start against the Lions.

    His performances cannot be viewed in isolation of course. The fact that he has a pack who has substance and style, a scrumhalf who is on his own quest for national recognition and a 10-12 axis who are improving weekly, needs to be taken into account.

    In contrast, Fourie relies on an over-hyped forward unit, a useful but unspectacular scrumhalf, injury-plagued flyhalf and ordinary inside centre, for him to thrive.

    He has had offers from better franchises but has turned them all down. His loyalty has to be commended on one level, but Fourie needs to make a decision about whether he wants to explore the limits of his potential or whether he is content with scratching the surface.

    When Jacobs retires he’ll know that he came close to being the very best player he could be. If Fourie’s loyalty continues to cloud his judgement he won’t be able to say the same thing.

    By Ryan Vrede

  • Comment 28, posted at 10.03.09 13:04:30 by wpw Reply
  • The majority of the peanut gallery on Voldy still think Fourie is playing better rugby at the moment. 😕

    He is still a brilliant player but he needs to move to another union.

  • Comment 29, posted at 10.03.09 13:06:33 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 29) : he is a brilliant player.
    and I do not think that lions play such bad rugby – but definately not effective so it must affect them mentally, which kinda makes them this mediocre team. and this tend to catch up with you. So you’re right but where could he go except Stormers ❓

  • Comment 30, posted at 10.03.09 13:44:55 by rekinek Reply
  • @rekinek (Comment 30) :

    Not sure… how about the Bulls???

    I reckon he will do best at the Sharks but Adi is there so next on the list would be the Bulle.

  • Comment 31, posted at 10.03.09 14:00:15 by wpw Reply
  • @rekinek (Comment 30) : Bulls 🙄

  • Comment 32, posted at 10.03.09 14:00:43 by Charlie Reply
  • @Charlie (Comment 32) : Meisiekind & Mossie…klink soos vinkel en koljander 😆

  • Comment 33, posted at 10.03.09 14:07:51 by Charlie Reply
  • @Charlie (Comment 32) : charlie you must be in your element this week. in two days there have been three articles at least about adi. and adi has one on sharksrugby.

  • Comment 34, posted at 10.03.09 14:08:49 by try time Reply
  • @Charlie (Comment 33) : meisiekind and moffie.

  • Comment 35, posted at 10.03.09 14:09:36 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 35) : oh sorry thats the bulls centre pairing.

  • Comment 36, posted at 10.03.09 14:10:09 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 34) : :mrgreen: It’s about time to see some positive stuff about Jacobs 😎

  • Comment 37, posted at 10.03.09 14:10:24 by Charlie Reply
  • @Charlie (Comment 37) : thats cos he finally is playing decent rugby again. 😈

  • Comment 38, posted at 10.03.09 14:15:16 by try time Reply
  • @try time (Comment 38) : 👿

  • Comment 39, posted at 10.03.09 14:32:38 by Charlie Reply
  • @Charlie (Comment 32) : eish – can’t picture him with Meisie. and by the way how big on centres are the bulls (they took Pretorius 😯

  • Comment 40, posted at 10.03.09 14:34:00 by rekinek Reply
  • @rekinek (Comment 40) :

    And yet Jaco is on the bench cos JP Nel is in the starting side. 😕

  • Comment 41, posted at 10.03.09 14:41:56 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 41) : I was under the impression that Pretorius started a game or 2.
    Is JP Nel the one u guys refer to as Mossie or Moffie ❓

  • Comment 42, posted at 10.03.09 14:50:27 by rekinek Reply
  • @rekinek (Comment 42) : Jacque Fourie = Mossie & JP Nel = Moffie (not sure) 😕

  • Comment 43, posted at 10.03.09 14:52:57 by Charlie Reply
  • I am just happy to see Adi get regular game time with the Sharks. He has been the backline “super sub” for the Sharks for so long, and many were singing his praises then, but he still couldn’t get a start. JF is certainly loyal to the Lions, which is good to see in modern sports, but Adi has certainly been loyal to the Sharks, and even with not being given the deserved opportunities. I am glad he has that loyalty and he is finally being repaid. I always knew he had the ability to be a great centre.

  • Comment 44, posted at 10.03.09 14:54:48 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 42) :

    Fourie’s nickname is Mossie!!

  • Comment 45, posted at 10.03.09 14:59:19 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 45) : What’s your nickname? :mrgreen: 😛

  • Comment 46, posted at 10.03.09 15:02:57 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 46) :

    I don’t have any… 🙄 promise!!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 47, posted at 10.03.09 15:05:49 by wpw Reply
  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 44) : good things come to those who wait.amen.
    very true – the guy was so patient.
    buth then again so were waylon & brad.

  • Comment 48, posted at 10.03.09 15:07:57 by rekinek Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 47) : Yeah, you’re right, Fransie Steyn took your nickname…..(and all your pies). 😆

  • Comment 49, posted at 10.03.09 15:08:11 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 48) :
    😳 meant to say “but then again brad and waylon were good too.”

  • Comment 50, posted at 10.03.09 15:09:04 by rekinek Reply
  • @rekinek (Comment 48) : Waylon is patient, and at the risk of destroying my friendship with Rob, I’m afraid Brad was not so patient, which is why he is no longer a Shark. Waylon suffered a serious drop in form last season, but if he can get back to his best of 2007, that would be wonderful. I also believe they should consider a move to 12 for Waylon.

  • Comment 51, posted at 10.03.09 15:10:10 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 51) : I am so tempted to ask and who didn’t.
    When you look at JP, RP, FS – they did not do exactly great at the beginning of S14 – some crawled out of this dip sooner some later.

    i think what frustrated brad was not being considered in Boks setup and that does not have much to do with the sharks. remember that Adi was a bok before.

  • Comment 52, posted at 10.03.09 15:26:29 by rekinek Reply
  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 51) : I like him on the wing – he does not need to do much passing there just smash and run 😆
    why do you reckon 12 ❓

  • Comment 53, posted at 10.03.09 15:30:10 by rekinek Reply
  • The fight are still on Voldy re: Jacobs – Fourie story… 😆

  • Comment 54, posted at 10.03.09 15:41:44 by Charlie Reply
  • @Charlie (Comment 54) : what is Voldy ❓

  • Comment 55, posted at 10.03.09 15:45:00 by rekinek Reply
  • @Charlie (Comment 54) : There’s always a fight on. 🙄 :mrgreen:

  • Comment 56, posted at 10.03.09 15:47:23 by McLovin Reply
  • @rekinek (Comment 53) : At least on the wing he can’t run sideways to far before he gets to the touchline 😉

  • Comment 57, posted at 10.03.09 15:53:39 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 55) : http://www.keo.co.za

  • Comment 58, posted at 10.03.09 15:54:41 by Charlie Reply
  • @Pokkel (Comment 57) : what are you people with this sideways 😆 :mrgreen:

  • Comment 59, posted at 10.03.09 15:55:52 by rekinek Reply
  • @Charlie (Comment 58) : Now you went and exposed poor old rekinek to those bunch of idiots…naughty naughty 👿

  • Comment 60, posted at 10.03.09 15:56:39 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 60) : It’s better to learn the hard way… 😉

  • Comment 61, posted at 10.03.09 15:57:54 by Charlie Reply
  • @rekinek (Comment 59) : They call it the crab walk… 😆

  • Comment 62, posted at 10.03.09 15:58:40 by Charlie Reply
  • @rekinek (Comment 59) : Last year Waylon NEVER ran straight…he looked like a crab always going sideways and never straightening the line

  • Comment 63, posted at 10.03.09 15:58:52 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 62) : He nearly ran over old Adi,Odwa or JPP most of the time. 😯

  • Comment 64, posted at 10.03.09 16:00:20 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 61) : At least we know he’ll be back….I can only handle keo in small bits at a time

  • Comment 65, posted at 10.03.09 16:01:40 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 65) : So true, they sometimes nearly force you to puke… 🙄

  • Comment 66, posted at 10.03.09 16:06:38 by Charlie Reply
  • @Pokkel (Comment 64) : old Adi? Oh oh… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 67, posted at 10.03.09 16:12:12 by robdylan Reply
  • @Pokkel (Comment 60) : you right – he shouldn’t :mrgreen:
    quite fired up there

  • Comment 68, posted at 10.03.09 16:12:50 by rekinek Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 67) : Ja, but it seems like he have been around forever… 😆

  • Comment 69, posted at 10.03.09 16:13:33 by Charlie Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 67) : You think Waylon would have had time to figure out how to run straight while he was injured? He really has so much potensial I would like to see him playing good rugby again.

  • Comment 70, posted at 10.03.09 16:15:24 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 70) : maybe we will see on Saturday.

  • Comment 71, posted at 10.03.09 16:33:11 by rekinek Reply
  • I am off everybody…till 2morrow :mrgreen:

  • Comment 72, posted at 10.03.09 16:38:08 by Charlie Reply
  • @Charlie (Comment 72) : see ya – oh no – read ya 😆

  • Comment 73, posted at 10.03.09 16:40:47 by rekinek Reply
  • I am off as well – read ya 😎

  • Comment 74, posted at 10.03.09 17:39:13 by rekinek Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 5) : Where is wpw when you need him? ❓

  • Comment 75, posted at 10.03.09 22:41:51 by rahul Reply
  • @rahul (Comment 75) : Busy to eat 🙄

  • Comment 76, posted at 11.03.09 07:47:24 by Charlie Reply
  • GO LIVERPOOL !!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 77, posted at 11.03.09 08:18:21 by Charlie Reply
  • Liverpool thrashed Real Madrid 4-0 last night!!! :mrgreen: 😈

  • Comment 78, posted at 11.03.09 08:20:18 by wpw Reply
  • @Charlie (Comment 76) :

    Hey, watch it papa!!! 👿

  • Comment 79, posted at 11.03.09 08:20:34 by wpw Reply
  • @Charlie (Comment 76) : 😛

    @wpw (Comment 78) : Even a blind squir…….Ag nevermind. 😆

  • Comment 80, posted at 11.03.09 08:25:59 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 80) : 👿 👿

  • Comment 81, posted at 11.03.09 08:37:01 by wpw Reply

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