The ghost of try time

Killer Tour?

Written by cheers had fun (The ghost of try time)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 15 Feb 2010 at 10:36
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After Saturday’s dreadful performance, many have written off the Sharks (including myself). But…

Has anyone noticed who we are playing when we go over? Only the top two teams of each Country. And to make things worse we have to fly over the Tasman four times. How dreadful.

Ah but did anyone bother to check the oppositions touring schedule. I think Plum did. He said he was setting the team to peak later rather than sooner. And now I know why. The four teams after the Crusaders game are all arriving back from SA the week before they play theΒ Sharks at home. You all missed that little detail didn’t you? Yes the Sharks play four travel weary teams on tour namely, the Waratahs, Brumbies, Hurricanes and Highlanders. The playing field is thus level. Maybe there is a little sparkle of hope, as long as certain players learn from their stupidity. (You guys know who you are.)


  • Good point! Any ray of sun shine today will do!

  • Comment 1, posted at 15.02.10 10:39:08 by billy Reply
  • good research there, try time. You’ll have another star before you know it πŸ™‚

  • Comment 2, posted at 15.02.10 10:44:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • i have just bought temporary bulls membership. all four teams need to get softened by the bulls over the next month. for once i have a legit reason to support those pratts. πŸ˜†

  • Comment 3, posted at 15.02.10 10:49:17 by try time Reply

  • then how about a gold cup like yours? call it pointing out the obvious award. πŸ˜†

  • Comment 4, posted at 15.02.10 10:52:54 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 3) : that’s gonna be hard, but I’ll join you. Or at least try

  • Comment 5, posted at 15.02.10 11:04:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • Im sorry I just can’t bring myself to feel positive about the Sharks this morning πŸ™ maybe if we win on Friday evening. I almost picked the Cheetahs to win on superbru, I’m THAT negative!

  • Comment 6, posted at 15.02.10 11:07:29 by war1 Reply
  • Same as last season… no attack, no BMT… we will be the lowest try scoring team in the S14 losing a semi spot on the bonus point system

  • Comment 7, posted at 15.02.10 11:09:50 by Rahul Reply

  • @Rahul (Comment 7) : ur more positive than i am

  • Comment 8, posted at 15.02.10 11:11:35 by war1 Reply
  • @war1 (Comment 8) : he he he… if last season is anything to go by, the tahs will beat us on friday too… πŸ˜•

  • Comment 9, posted at 15.02.10 11:14:44 by Rahul Reply

  • Sheeesh surprised you guys are even commenting about the game – i would still be trying to find my way out of the bottom of the bottle after that perfromance

  • Comment 10, posted at 15.02.10 11:18:38 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • Let’s just beat the Cheetahs on Friday – and hopefully get a BP too ( faith) – then I’ll start thinking about the tour. The possibility of starting the season with back-to-back losses….AT HOME…is just too much on it’s own. The tour schedule would just depress me…

  • Comment 11, posted at 15.02.10 11:20:02 by blackshark Reply

    blackshark - I'm back!
  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 10) : I’m with you there

  • Comment 12, posted at 15.02.10 11:20:57 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 10) : When nothing changes from one season to the next you must be the champions, not also rans…
    Time for a rethink!!!

  • Comment 13, posted at 15.02.10 11:24:06 by Rahul Reply

  • @Rahul (Comment 13) : ❓ ❓ ❓ ??? ❓ ❓ ❓

  • Comment 14, posted at 15.02.10 11:30:17 by Pokkel Reply
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  • try time, good point there, then they will have their own supporters to lift them from their weary travel!! Still makes it difficult for us but like you mention, probably just a bit less.

  • Comment 15, posted at 15.02.10 11:35:43 by Puma Reply

  • Okay my first star is up … πŸ˜†

  • Comment 16, posted at 15.02.10 11:36:34 by Puma Reply

  • @Puma (Comment 16) :

    congrats!! πŸ˜‰ 😈

  • Comment 17, posted at 15.02.10 11:38:11 by wpw Reply
  • @Puma (Comment 16) : congrats!

  • Comment 18, posted at 15.02.10 11:38:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Puma (Comment 16) : Congrats, u/19 player, nearly a grown-up 😈

  • Comment 19, posted at 15.02.10 11:48:09 by Charlie Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 19) : πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 20, posted at 15.02.10 12:00:21 by Puma Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 18) : Yip, Starting to look part if it here now with my star πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 21, posted at 15.02.10 12:01:06 by Puma Reply

  • @Puma (Comment 21) : Now just in desperate need of a pic… πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 22, posted at 15.02.10 12:05:24 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 22) : Will have to get one..haha.

  • Comment 23, posted at 15.02.10 12:12:15 by Puma Reply

  • Mapoe to play outside centre against the Sharks. Think he will be devastating there. Big strong and fast.

    Don’t think this is good news for our Sharks

  • Comment 24, posted at 15.02.10 12:56:09 by Puma Reply

  • Well the less said about the weekend the better. Funny that I’m also not too proud for getting it right on Superbru either. Thanks for trying to bring some positives to our tour try time. I just hope we can get on the plane with atleast one win under the belt.

  • Comment 25, posted at 15.02.10 13:15:24 by Farlington Reply

  • @Farlington (Comment 25) : have to find something positive or it could be a long season. i’m starting to feel like a lions supporter. πŸ™‚

  • Comment 26, posted at 15.02.10 13:20:02 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 26) : as long as we don’t get as complacent as the Lions supporters πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 27, posted at 15.02.10 13:24:01 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 26) : They at least have Dick Muir…we’ve been for the past two years getting Muir Dick’s… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 28, posted at 15.02.10 13:27:46 by FireTheLooser Reply


    Mostert dislocated shoulder- should be six weeks or more?
    Muller stinger- Should be fine for weekend if physio works well, seems to be a mild stinger.

  • Comment 29, posted at 15.02.10 13:28:36 by JJR Reply
  • @JJR (Comment 29) : Eish, no wonder his team didnt complain about his departure.

  • Comment 30, posted at 15.02.10 13:30:06 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @Puma (Comment 24) : Should not be a real problem, yes he has the running ability, but defence is a whole different story at outside. Also might not really pass very often, so aim straight at him and hit him hard should be the order of the day.

  • Comment 31, posted at 15.02.10 13:30:49 by JJR Reply
  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 28) : although dick didn’t cover himself in glory with his starting line up on saturday. the replacements saved the lions some face.

  • Comment 32, posted at 15.02.10 13:31:31 by try time Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 30) : 4 sure his shoulders are buggered. He needs to build some muscle on them, surely it will improve his chances in the future.

  • Comment 33, posted at 15.02.10 13:32:42 by JJR Reply
  • @Pokkel (Comment 27) : thats because as we start to, then the sharks win a cc trophy to keep us interested. cruel very cruel. but imo i think the super 15 will suit sharks more.

  • Comment 34, posted at 15.02.10 13:33:51 by try time Reply

  • Sharks need Riaan back in team, he gives us some go forward. We also must send the du plessis some where and buy a fast powerful inside or a frans steyn double. A proper fetcher could also be nice. We have enough talented front rowers. Herbst and Patric are great at tighthead and burden and cooper can add impact coming off any bench.Jannie will make sure we give away at least 3 penalties while he is on and bismark will run into three players instead of one. Maybe he thinks he is Hulk. Get my Drift?

  • Comment 35, posted at 15.02.10 13:38:18 by JJR Reply
  • @try time (Comment 34) : is that another article coming up?

  • Comment 36, posted at 15.02.10 13:45:46 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Because I live in the platteland I don’t often get to live rugby games and even if I do I don’t see the players up close……but when I collected my tickets at Gate 1 where the players enter I saw Jannie and Bismarck arrive and they are huge…..then Deysel arrived and he is a monster and even Waylon Murray is a big bloke. The point of this is that I wouldn’t tell Bismarck to his face that he is stuffing around :mrgreen:

  • Comment 37, posted at 15.02.10 13:52:17 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 36) : i’m saving that for december when i work out the finer details of the comp.

  • Comment 38, posted at 15.02.10 13:58:54 by try time Reply

  • @Pokkel (Comment 37) : maybe if a group of us get together. you can stand in front and be spokesman. πŸ˜€

  • Comment 39, posted at 15.02.10 14:00:11 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 39) : I nominate one of our sexy girl bloggers as distraction 😎 ….where is Ice by the way???
    I won’t be ideal. I’m all of 1.68m and weigh 72kg 😯 :mrgreen:

  • Comment 40, posted at 15.02.10 14:10:51 by Pokkel Reply
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  • See Mapoe will play @ 13 for Cheetahs, Corne Uys injured, will be out for some time…

  • Comment 41, posted at 15.02.10 14:16:24 by Charlie Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 41) : So what can we expect from him at 13? we know his lightning, but will that help much at 13? unless of course he breaks the line.

    Murray must maar put a huge tackle in on him and then he might not want to try anything again… πŸ™‚

  • Comment 42, posted at 15.02.10 14:19:18 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @Pokkel (Comment 40) : now you are thinking. πŸ˜†

  • Comment 43, posted at 15.02.10 14:22:33 by try time Reply

  • Bismark would eat all of us alive!

    Interesting about the tour. It’s the tour from hell, so anything that can help us is awesome.

  • Comment 44, posted at 15.02.10 14:26:06 by NJP Reply
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  • Not to great in Durbs today Very hot lots of doom and gloom 2 years ago our tour was the same and we cam away with 3? wins
    lots of agro towards the ref here Im surprised by that I mean yes he was usless and yes he cost us the game but the good thing is that it was the first game of the tournament so the loss is no big deal we have enought time to fix it Also guys think Cursaders here Hurricans also bad starters great finishers
    I disagree about Monty though i thought he didnt do too badly and he didnt mess up
    Bismark on the other hand huge fine 6 cuts and walk to NZ!!!

  • Comment 45, posted at 15.02.10 14:44:06 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 42) : That youngster is like a machine, he just keep on attacking, hit after hit 😈

  • Comment 46, posted at 15.02.10 14:52:01 by Charlie Reply

  • @NJP (Comment 44) : Bismarck and his brother must realise that they are not the backbone of the Sharks setup 😈

  • Comment 47, posted at 15.02.10 14:52:55 by Charlie Reply

  • @Fattmann (Comment 45) : it is not that monty is poor, my question is is he s14 material? i don’t think so. compare his 60 minutes to ruans 20, it was chalk and cheese. you cannot win the s14 with an average flyhalf.

  • Comment 48, posted at 15.02.10 14:56:58 by try time Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 47) : they should just use their brains, or at least loosen a couple of brain celss from their earwax.

  • Comment 49, posted at 15.02.10 14:58:42 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 49) : Do they have a brain πŸ˜•

  • Comment 50, posted at 15.02.10 15:05:46 by Charlie Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 47) : More like the anchor around our necks :mrgreen:

  • Comment 51, posted at 15.02.10 15:06:09 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 51) : Now we need a lifesavour 😈

  • Comment 52, posted at 15.02.10 15:09:30 by Charlie Reply

  • @Original Pierre (Comment 51) : fortunately sharks can spend time under water (or so we would like to believe) :mrgreen:

  • Comment 53, posted at 15.02.10 15:14:07 by rekinek Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 26) : We would welcome you, and anyone else ❗

  • Comment 54, posted at 15.02.10 15:18:42 by Greg Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 52) : Isn`t Jake White coaching some hostel at Maties? Hint Hint . . . πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 55, posted at 15.02.10 15:20:54 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 55) : Jip, Beer Fetcher’s XV :mrgreen:

  • Comment 56, posted at 15.02.10 15:43:24 by Charlie Reply

  • Whether it was the altitude factor or problems with their fitness, the Vodacom Stormers were adamant about one thing on Saturday night – tiredness was to blame for their second half slide in the opening Super 14 match against the Auto & General Lions, said coach Allister Coetzee. 😈

  • Comment 57, posted at 15.02.10 15:44:14 by Charlie Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 57) : 😯

  • Comment 58, posted at 15.02.10 15:49:56 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 57) : Yeah, scary isn’t it? After 40 mins of rugby they are tired. What will they be like after 13 games?

  • Comment 59, posted at 15.02.10 15:50:58 by Greg Reply

  • @Rahul (Comment 7) : look at the bright side. sharks got a bonus point on sat. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 60, posted at 15.02.10 15:51:08 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 60) : Good point!

  • Comment 61, posted at 15.02.10 16:02:49 by billy Reply

  • Only good point though. We should have won. All our own fault.
    Not really fair to blame the ref. According to Plum he blew the game like het told the teams he would, so we shot ourselves in our own foot. Again.

    Might just be a bit of justice for the Chiefs after we beat them last year in that cracker of a match. If I remember correctly they crossed the like 3 or 4 times, only to be denied by the TV ref.

  • Comment 62, posted at 15.02.10 16:07:44 by NJP Reply
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  • @NJP (Comment 62) : also on sat – chiefs crossed the line 2 but were ruled as hold up and out.

    sharks on the other hand didn’t get that close 😐

  • Comment 63, posted at 15.02.10 16:10:23 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 63) : i mean twice except the try that they scored.

  • Comment 64, posted at 15.02.10 16:10:56 by rekinek Reply
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  • BTW – It’s Monday. Can we get some nice Varsity Cupo thread on which some good soul would post some accurate updates. πŸ˜›

  • Comment 65, posted at 15.02.10 16:13:35 by rekinek Reply
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  • @NJP (Comment 62) : I wonder how he told the Chiefs he would blow the game….because there was NO consistancy from the ref πŸ‘Ώ

  • Comment 66, posted at 15.02.10 16:14:47 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Never said he was perfect. First Super 14 game for the guy. We screwed up enough to lose with ANY ref.

    If Plumtree managed to be the ref (hehehehe), we’d still have lost.
    We would have played better though, with the coach on the field crapping on the players heads…

  • Comment 67, posted at 15.02.10 16:17:20 by NJP Reply
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  • @NJP (Comment 62) :
    Well then Plum must get fired.
    He should immediately have smelt a rat when the ref told him that when a Sharks player trying to clear a loose scrum gets the ball kicked out of his hands by a Chiefs player lying on the deck that he would award a scrum to the Chiefs.

  • Comment 68, posted at 15.02.10 16:29:59 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @NJP (Comment 67) : I hear you and I can accept that ref’s interpret differently, but thay must at least be consistant and that he definately wasn’t… gripe is that rugby rules are not applied in black and white but different shades of gray. You watch the game and you know the rules, but at 50% of rucks and mauls you as the rugby supporter get the calls ‘wrong’…It takes away all the fun and I’m not surprised that rugby players struggle from week to week to try and figure out what mood the ref is in.

  • Comment 69, posted at 15.02.10 16:30:30 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @NJP (Comment 67) :
    Lets just hope its the last time we see him, heaven help us if he must blow one of our tour games.

  • Comment 70, posted at 15.02.10 16:31:57 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 68) : or when sometimes you can enter the ruck from the side and sometimes not…or sometimes you may hold on to the tackled player and somtimes not…

  • Comment 71, posted at 15.02.10 16:32:56 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 66) : They probably never had a chat… πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 72, posted at 15.02.10 16:33:03 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @Pokkel (Comment 71) :
    Seriously frustrating and more so for the players.

    That incident of kicking the ball out of Kockett’s hands was so open and blatant that one naturally thinks that there are other agendas at play.

  • Comment 73, posted at 15.02.10 16:36:03 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • It’s not what he penalised the Sharks for – it it was he DIDN’T penalise the Chiefs for. Brown had a HUGE blind side.

    Bismark needs to learn to control his temper…..but my heart is broken for our boys….too often we face cheating ref’s.

  • Comment 74, posted at 15.02.10 17:07:41 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 73) : no it wasn’t. It was only clear on the slo-mo, which the ref doesn’t have advantage of…

    I remember in ’08, the boks played the barbarians & marty williams did something similar @ a ruck & the ref didn’t see it, i was hopping mad, but the ref didn’t never saw it.

  • Comment 75, posted at 15.02.10 17:12:16 by Megatron Reply

  • @Megatron (Comment 75) : That’s suppose to be what the ass. refs are there for now days.

  • Comment 76, posted at 15.02.10 17:37:29 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • Sleepy hollow

  • Comment 77, posted at 15.02.10 18:39:56 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • Hello ❗ ((echo)) ((echo)) ((echo))

  • Comment 78, posted at 15.02.10 18:40:33 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • I’m all alone 😯

  • Comment 79, posted at 15.02.10 18:43:34 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • Can see no one is at work….

  • Comment 80, posted at 15.02.10 18:44:36 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • Suppose to be working when at work, not blogging… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 81, posted at 15.02.10 18:46:24 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • Okay, g-bye all, time for me to go home…. πŸ˜†

  • Comment 82, posted at 15.02.10 18:47:13 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 78) :

    Strangest Echo I’ve ever seen. it changes your words. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 83, posted at 15.02.10 18:50:32 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 76) : Ass Refs (nothing personal KSA) – are not doing anything, missed the 2007 S14 cheating bulls, missed skew lineouts on Saturday as they missed more Chiefs cheating.

  • Comment 84, posted at 15.02.10 19:06:20 by Baldrick Reply

  • @Baldrick (Comment 84) :

    Hey i am now OFFICIALLY a retired ref, so no hard feelings πŸ˜†

  • Comment 85, posted at 15.02.10 19:23:31 by KSA Shark Β© Reply

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  • Bad news guys !! That ref,keith brown ,is blowing another sharks game.:-(

  • Comment 86, posted at 15.02.10 19:30:24 by bergshark Reply

  • @war1 (Comment 6) : sharks by 120 ❗ ❗ πŸ˜›

  • Comment 87, posted at 15.02.10 19:58:46 by rekinek Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 86) : suddenly bryce lawrence seems such good option :mrgreen:

    there is logic to it, if the ref doesn’t need to travel he should be fresher mentally awake etc.
    plus good thing – at least the sharks know what to expect now.

  • Comment 88, posted at 15.02.10 20:02:14 by rekinek Reply
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  • btw peeps sharks have named their 34 man squad officially

  • Comment 89, posted at 15.02.10 20:08:54 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 29) : another argie case πŸ™„


  • Comment 90, posted at 15.02.10 20:19:47 by rekinek Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 89) : so early :mrgreen:


  • Comment 91, posted at 15.02.10 20:20:21 by rekinek Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 80) : perhaps they are working. isn’t it what you suppose to do there πŸ™„

    oh no – it’s just an 8hour wait to go home :mrgreen:

  • Comment 92, posted at 15.02.10 20:23:36 by rekinek Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 89) : good squad and charl made it πŸ˜›
    surprised not to see cronje brothers.

  • Comment 93, posted at 15.02.10 20:26:15 by rekinek Reply
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  • on serious note. I’m not too worried about away games. Sharks seemed to build a healthy record recently, its the home games that worry me. As Bergsharl said somewhere earlier – they lost their invinsibility at King’s Park. This is worrying rather.

  • Comment 94, posted at 15.02.10 20:29:14 by rekinek Reply
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  • not bad rek but guy cronje as gto what i heard is injured for the season

  • Comment 95, posted at 15.02.10 20:35:34 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 94) : thats a fact

  • Comment 96, posted at 15.02.10 20:37:07 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 89) : Just seen it Sharky, Not a bad squad at all.

  • Comment 97, posted at 15.02.10 20:41:11 by Puma Reply

  • hiyas puma bro
    yeah i have an article up i RT

    not bad at all but like i said there , the backline depth concerns me

    yes theres a lot of players , but topline quality lacks badly

  • Comment 98, posted at 15.02.10 20:47:24 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 98) : Answered you back on RT.

    Yip, wish we had Butchie, Fransie and Barritt all coming back, but really don’t see that happen. Would have been great though.

    What happens like you said if Ruan got injured? Never rated Monty much this past weekend. What the youngster P. Lambie? Could he fill in there, I wonder?

  • Comment 99, posted at 15.02.10 21:00:55 by Puma Reply

  • sorry meant – what about the youngster.

  • Comment 100, posted at 15.02.10 21:01:44 by Puma Reply

  • soz okes – been out all day. Just got the squad up here now.

  • Comment 101, posted at 15.02.10 21:06:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • Give our boys a break i will never go and join another team no matter what its like been married to the team its like for better or worse that’s the way i see it

  • Comment 102, posted at 15.02.10 21:09:36 by Charmaine Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 101) : its fine hiyas rob ur forgiven :mrgreen:

  • Comment 103, posted at 15.02.10 21:10:32 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Puma (Comment 99) : lambie looked to against stormers. small but kept going – i was impressed.
    Though he is very young and not exactly of frans steyn’s built.

  • Comment 104, posted at 15.02.10 21:17:27 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 101) : still you’re speed of light comparing to the sharks :mrgreen:

  • Comment 105, posted at 15.02.10 21:18:14 by rekinek Reply
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  • When I saw the questionmark after the word “hell”, I thought:”HELL, HOW CAN YOU ASK THAT. It must be a statement not a question.”
    Then I read the post, and ahhh. Good research TT.

  • Comment 106, posted at 15.02.10 22:17:27 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

  • @rekinek : keith brown will be ref in sharks final game :the s14 final πŸ˜› πŸ˜€

  • Comment 107, posted at 15.02.10 23:24:08 by bergshark Reply

  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 106) : thanks. it actually came cos of the wierd way my brain works. i half heard a supersport commentator mention the brumbies playing the bulls soon, and then i saw mumm was suspended so he was going to miss the sa tour, then i thought thats odd both those teams are playing sharks soon, let me check it out. and lo and behold there i saw the first two games after crusaders both aussie teams in sa the game before. then interested i decided to check the next two and i was shocked to see they to play in sa the week before. so you can imagine my excitement after a shit rugby weekend. i had to share the good news. especially after my previous kick in the ribs article.

  • Comment 108, posted at 16.02.10 07:51:25 by try time Reply

  • @bergshark (Comment 107) : πŸ™‚

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