The positive side!?!

Written by Maria Delport (Letgo)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 17 Feb 2010 at 12:09
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Okay, so after some negativity, and history lessons, here’s my take on our first game of the season. It’s only 2 more days before our next game and I think we can all do with a more positive take on what could only be described as a dreadful first game for the Sharks.

Don’t worry I’m here to tell you that it is not all that bad for the Sharks. I had to watch the game three times to get to this conclusion, but I believe it takes some time to see things more clearly.

Firstly I have to talk about the ref, for some reason, because of bad behaviour from fans all attention has been taken off the bad performance of the ref. Now I have to admit that he was better than I originally thought since he did actually make some calls that was indeed correct. Especially in the first half it seemed like the Sharks didn’t really get a grip with the strict application of the law and after fair warning I think John was probably send off the field with good reason. So as far as the first half goes I think the ref did a decent-ish job. But then came the second half and while the Sharks had now changed their approach towards the ruck area, it seemed like the ref was letting the Chiefs get away with the same things that got John Smit in trouble. Let me give you some specific examples in the last 20min, there was more before this, but these are the important ones.

Min 61, The Sharks are on attack after Stefan takes a low cross kick and puts Odwa into space, the ball comes out to Ruan and Andries Struass makes a good break and offload to Sykes to set up an attacking ruck in the middlel of the field on the 22. Kockott tries to get quick ball out, but the Chiefs comes in from the side to slow the ball down. When the ball finally gets out, the cover defence is in place and Waylon is stopped 5m short. We did get this penalty, but this was the start of many blatant infringements.

Min 66, We have forward momentum from a line-out on the 40. Kanko, Ruan, Jannie and Keegan get us to the middle of the field and 35m out. Kockott tries to play the ball wide only to have the ball kicked out of his hands. The ref blows for a knock, ignores the objection made by Kockott and misses the professional foul made right in front of him. This would have put the Sharks ahead by 9 the score 18-9.

Min 67 – 68, This is when the ref and line-ref misses the mark by the Chiefs player. They also miss a knock by Botes from the line-out, they ignore the fact that the guy who tackled Jannie never let him go before playing for the ball and then dived over the ball and sealed it off, before blowing Jannie up for playing the ball on the ground. Again the same thing ,the Sharks were penalized for in the first half.

After this Bismarck gets send of and Alberts penalized for two, what I call, over enthusiastic tackles and the Chiefs end up with a line-out 22m out. I don’t blame the ref for this, by the way, I’m just setting up the thing I actually blame him for.

Min 75 (look at 75:55 – 60:00), The Sharks defends well from the line out and puts enough pressure on two rucks of the Chiefs to get the ball back and place it. The ball is out and rightly called so by the ref when the Chiefs pick up the ball, but notice where 19 comes from to take that ball!. If you have the game take a look at him hanging around offside and then from behind no 8 you’ll see him picking up the ball, never retreating behind the last feet.

Min 76, This is when the ball is spread wide from the stolen ball. The ball gets kicked through and JP covers well. Normally I would have agreed with the ref. JP hung on to the ball, but based on the way the Sharks was punished for doing the exact same thing in the first half. This penalty should have gone the way of the Sharks, reason not releasing ball carrier. After this the Chiefs takes the penalty quick, the ref allows it, but it is clearly taken about a meter in front of JP Peterson who was the man penalized. This was a result of the only try in the match. I’m not saying taking the free kick a meter back would have made a difference, but I’m just saying…

Min 80, We all know what happened. I did read someone’s post saying if you are in front of the ball carrier you are offside. This is correct, but when that ball is played back into open field, there is no more ball carrier and anybody on the field is free to play that ball. I think even Keith Brown knows this, since he did blow for the knock on which then resulted in a penalty.

That’s the part the ref had in the game. I think that’s pretty big. I think it cost us a win. And say what you will, if the Sharks had 4 points on the log we would have felt much better about their performance. Plus had the ref been more experienced I think this would have been a better game for both teams and this would have been the only way to fairly evaluate both teams performances on the day. If the Sharks were so bad, then the Chiefs are in trouble against the Lions, because they didn’t really look much better.

Anyway, here’s what I got out of the game.

When the Sharks kept possession for more than one phase they moved the ball forward easily and the Chiefs defence was never the reason for stopping our forward momentum. We need to catch those balls even in bad weather and Kockott and Dumond can’t make those pointless kicks anymore. In fact just to keep it in perspective, I have some stats to show that kicking might just have been the worse part of our play. We made 33 kicks, out of those 33 only 3 was kicks where we regained possession of the ball or gained good territory on the field, 13 of those kicks was pointless. Pointless being, Kicks into the in goal, kicks on attack into opposition hands and kicks from the 22 that did not find touch. The rest of the kicks falls in the middle. The high kicks mostly, those kicks aren’t bad, but really they’re only as good as your chasers, or as good as the opposition is bad under the high ball. 33 Kicks in the match is why we never saw the Sharks play with the ball. That and 8 knocks and 16 penalties. How many times could we possibly have the ball in one match? I know it was raining and all, but we need to keep that ball a little longer. If we do that we’ll do fine.

There’s nothing to panic about, this is the same team that got us the currie cup trophy 2 years ago, and last year got just short of the semi’s in the super 14. Not much has changed and I actually think the application of the law this year benefits the Sharks, as long as it is applied like that to both teams. Last year we lost to teams that bullied us at the breakdown, turnovers was one of our biggest weaknesses. Now we should be protected from that, and players like Keegan and Kanko will feel more free to run the ball.
As far as the scrums go, I don’t think the Sharks were as bad as everyone thinks. The worst part of our scrum was engaging early and touching early and I think we can sort that part out. A couple of times we actually put some pressure on their scrum, but we can still be better. The Chiefs historically does not have the strongest scrum and we should have been more in demand more times. I don’t think the wet field help the scrums and maybe we should judge John at tight head against the Cheetahs.

Then as far as the “scum brothers” go, I think people need to calm down a little. Jannie did not have a bad match. The touch thing annoyed me a little, but really that’s all he did wrong. And Bismarck is a passionate player. I don’t think he got frustrated. He wanted to put pressure on the Chiefs players and took it a little too far. If that guy had passed the ball one second later Bissie would have put him on his back and we all would have been singing a different tune. That’s the type of player he is, all or nothing. Also the ref rambled on about dangerous, intentional, shoulder charge, when really Bismarck just ran into the guy and pushed him down. A penalty and a warning would have been enough. As for Alberts, he’s just like Bissie, all or nothing. He made a pre-emtive tackle, anticipating that the guy would actually catch the ball. Again, had the guy actually caught the ball, what Alberts did could have been brilliant. I think if he knew the guy missed the ball he would have rather played the ball, not the man.

Overall I think this match just was a bad one for us, nothing went our way. I think it’s good we got it out of the way now, rather than seeing this game somewhere in the middle of the tournament when winning becomes even more important. Now we can put this behind us, and look forward to a season where things goes our way again.

That’s my positive spin on things. I hope after the Cheetahs game I can say, “I told you so”.


  • Point, I think we’re better this year, than everyone else thinks.

  • Comment 1, posted at 17.02.10 12:11:41 by Letgo Reply
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  • Nice article letgo. Rob or any other admin guy for that matter, perhaps we need to rethink the layout of the homepage because DeanOelshe’s article is about to slide off the homepage and he only wrote it an hour ago. Perhaps we need visible space for 5 postings a day, not 3.

  • Comment 2, posted at 17.02.10 12:21:21 by CapeShark Reply
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  • Min 80, We all know what happened. I did read someone’s post saying if you are in front of the ball carrier you are offside. This is correct, but when that ball is played back into open field, there is no more ball carrier and anybody on the field is free to play that ball. I think even Keith Brown knows this, since he did blow for the knock on which then resulted in a penalty.

    Ref made the right call…


    The incident in isolation and in question, Strauss off-side or not, was correct, he was off-side.

    Where you can be pissed at the ref is the Chiefs players not releasing Jannie in the preceeding ruck as the new application of the law dictates which directly resulted in a poor ball back to Kockett to which everything else followed.

  • Comment 3, posted at 17.02.10 12:29:39 by Morné Reply
  • @Morné (Comment 3) : I think the ref was looking up at the stands for any more flying cups and he got a lot of rain in his eyes, only got his vision back in time to penalise the Sharks… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 4, posted at 17.02.10 12:33:26 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @Morné (Comment 3) : I still think that ball came from Kockett then against a Chiefs player that resulted in the Sharks being on side 😉

  • Comment 5, posted at 17.02.10 12:39:18 by Charlie Reply

  • Quite right. The bad behaviour of the fans has taken a lot of the attention off the terrible performance of the ref. And as you point out, he was consistently poor to both teams. It does beg the question though, why the SA refs are seasoned professionals and well respected whereas this NZ rookie was allowed to officiate in a super14 tournament.

  • Comment 6, posted at 17.02.10 12:40:21 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 2) : on my to do list for this evening. Awesome to have so much original stuff

  • Comment 7, posted at 17.02.10 12:41:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 5) :

    Trick in that is ‘intentionally’ handling the ball or not…

    Can’t speculate so still the right call.

  • Comment 8, posted at 17.02.10 12:47:11 by Morné Reply
  • the sharks will also get dubious calls in other games this season, especially with their forwards clueless about the revised interpretations…(i call them revised because when you say new law interpretations a lot of people stop listening at “new law”) 😀

  • Comment 9, posted at 17.02.10 12:53:25 by Megatron Reply

  • Well at least this week we have Kaplan 😛

  • Comment 10, posted at 17.02.10 13:14:02 by Puma Reply

  • @Puma (Comment 10) : Hey Puma, you getting lekker active here at Shaksworld…much better to talk to those who are (mostly) rooting for the same team we are… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 11, posted at 17.02.10 13:16:00 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @CapeShark (Comment 6) : Man, how that was allowed to happen, and how nobody seems to be realy questioning it (except for us sore loser Sharks supporter….yeah right) realy is disapointing to me.

  • Comment 12, posted at 17.02.10 13:17:57 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 12) : Hopefully the next game will have an unbiased ref

  • Comment 13, posted at 17.02.10 13:34:22 by dawnwallenkamp Reply

  • @CapeShark (Comment 6) : And how else does any one go from rookie to seasoned proffesional?

  • Comment 14, posted at 17.02.10 13:35:01 by Greg Reply

  • @dawnwallenkamp (Comment 13) : kaplan, i reserve my judgement 😐

  • Comment 15, posted at 17.02.10 13:36:17 by war1 Reply
  • @dawnwallenkamp (Comment 13) : Well we’ve got Kaplan for Friday, he was the ref for the Cheetahs/Bulls game and that was nice flowing rugby, even I enjoyed it and I loath those teams… 😀

  • Comment 16, posted at 17.02.10 13:38:20 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @war1 (Comment 15) : We had him in the ’08 CC final…we won, might be good…seemed to be the ref blowing the intrpretations the best, much more flowing. Anything is better than Brown-nose kiwi.

  • Comment 17, posted at 17.02.10 13:39:45 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @Letgo (Comment 1) : Don`t think I`d be able to watch that match 3 times . . .

  • Comment 18, posted at 17.02.10 13:39:54 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 17) : we had him in the ’09 CC semi, nuff said 😡

  • Comment 19, posted at 17.02.10 13:43:58 by war1 Reply
  • @war1 (Comment 19) : Eish my bru’….the cup is half empty… 😀 Then again, what cup…. 😆

  • Comment 20, posted at 17.02.10 13:45:48 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @Puma (Comment 10) : is it a good thing?
    he gets sticky so often – but he reffed game between Cheetahs &Bulls and this was by far the best game of the weekend.

  • Comment 21, posted at 17.02.10 13:48:49 by rekinek Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 20) : i am of firm belief that currie is a Durban thing :mrgreen:
    I wouldn’t argue if Pretoria wants boerwors.

  • Comment 22, posted at 17.02.10 13:54:45 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 22) : yes currie belongs in durban, does not suit pretoria 😉

  • Comment 23, posted at 17.02.10 14:21:40 by war1 Reply
  • @war1 (Comment 23) : The Pretorianers do however think they know kerrie, with that funny mince on the yellow rice they call kerrie… 😆

  • Comment 24, posted at 17.02.10 14:29:40 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 7) :
    And maybe you differentiate the subject headings from the posters names under them somehow other than the small margin space. (a different colour, font, size, underlined etc.)

  • Comment 25, posted at 17.02.10 16:07:09 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 11) : Fires, For sure mate, good be here with mostly Shark Supporters.

  • Comment 26, posted at 17.02.10 16:36:18 by Puma Reply

  • @rekinek (Comment 21) : One thing is for sure is that we will have a better game with Kaplan reffing.

    He was the best ref on the weekend out of all the S14 refs. So expecting him to have a good one again this weekend. WELL he better have .. 😆

  • Comment 27, posted at 17.02.10 16:40:33 by Puma Reply

  • @Puma (Comment 27) :
    Kaplan drilled the Sharks in their warm up game with the Force, was very dismissive of any queries from Sharks regarding his calls. Not holding my breath.

    DB, do your thing.

  • Comment 28, posted at 17.02.10 17:05:14 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Puma (Comment 27) : i guess he would be better than this Keith guy. or shall I say he could be no worse.

  • Comment 29, posted at 17.02.10 19:26:58 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 28) : neither do I.
    but as long as ref treats both sides the same I do not mind if he is authoratitive.

  • Comment 30, posted at 17.02.10 19:28:30 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 28) : Well cause of that warm up game with Kaplan, all the better. We will be far more ready to have him as our ref this Friday. The novice ref from NZ we had no clue how he would ref. So this should be a far better game with Kaplan. Well hoping it is.

  • Comment 31, posted at 17.02.10 19:36:45 by Puma Reply

  • @rekinek (Comment 29) : Yip, should be a lot better.

  • Comment 32, posted at 17.02.10 19:37:33 by Puma Reply

  • hiyas puma bro^5

  • Comment 33, posted at 17.02.10 19:45:06 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 33) : Howzit Sharky,

    Hope the weather is better for the game this Friday. Looking at the forecast it should be.

    With the starting 15 this week think we should do a whole lot better than last week.

    Then Cheetahs are a good side, so hoping we are ready for them and not underestimating them.

  • Comment 34, posted at 17.02.10 20:06:58 by Puma Reply

  • @Puma (Comment 34) : surely we won’t make that mistake for a 3rd time? 🙂

  • Comment 35, posted at 17.02.10 20:09:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • Yes sharks we need this win other wise i’ve hubby on the other side he is a cheetah and then i h’ve got to lisen to the boosting all over again last year was enough

  • Comment 36, posted at 17.02.10 20:14:45 by Charmaine Reply

  • @Puma (Comment 34) : yeah looking better mate but still far off being great

  • Comment 37, posted at 17.02.10 20:15:27 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Charmaine (Comment 36) : ooo. you must then remind him about the log standing (though maybe not for CC :mrgreen:

  • Comment 38, posted at 17.02.10 20:19:18 by rekinek Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 37) : Sharky, as long as we win it that all that counts. Hoping with the bonus but just go for the win and if the bonus comes that is great, if not and we win I will be happy with the result.

    Ag, Saturday was sooooooooooooooooooooooo close, should have been ours but Bissie getting that yellow so close to the end never helped us at all.

  • Comment 39, posted at 17.02.10 20:19:53 by Puma Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 35) : Hope not Rob 😀

  • Comment 40, posted at 17.02.10 20:21:14 by Puma Reply

  • @Puma (Comment 39) : when bis went off I think we all sensed trouble.
    And I hate this keeping it with forwards and play for time. It’s just never coming off.

  • Comment 41, posted at 17.02.10 20:23:06 by rekinek Reply
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  • hiyas rob ^5 any news on new players for the sharks for lock or flyhalf??

  • Comment 42, posted at 17.02.10 20:27:54 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 41) : As soon as Bissie went off I thought here comes trouble. During that time we lost it really. Then when we got that last penalty, jeepers I thought we had won it. Just to see game was not over and they had a penalty. Ag, the heart still feels sore about that game. Only our first game of the season but we could have won it.

    Then we did defend like crazy and JPP saved us twice with two brilliant tackles.

    Just hope we play a lot better this week. Please hope we don’t just keep kicking it back to them, cause Cheetahs will punish us for sure.

  • Comment 43, posted at 17.02.10 20:28:17 by Puma Reply

  • @rekinek (Comment 38) :
    you know i do and then you must hear my son he is a b bull so i’m in the middel shame then his girl is also a shark and i asked her to come and watch the game and he turned around and said oh no we are going out now that is what i say is veryyyyyy sore looser you must really c sometimes i don’t even want to go into it its really bad looser and let the bulls lose then sits inside his room where i still scream for the sharks even if we lose just bad bad

  • Comment 44, posted at 17.02.10 20:30:30 by Charmaine Reply

  • @Puma (Comment 43) : me too – hoping for the better game on friday. the sharks can do it.

    but jeez, it was just such surreal last 5 minutes in chiefs game. it’s like you know it’s gonna happen you hope it doesn’t and it just happens. 🙄

    needa ru

  • Comment 45, posted at 17.02.10 20:33:19 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Charmaine (Comment 44) : jeez girl. you truly don’t have it easy. 🙄

    my half supports sharks, but bit grumpy of late 😆

  • Comment 46, posted at 17.02.10 20:36:02 by rekinek Reply
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  • cheers guys & girls.

    gonna check what stig is up to. 😀

  • Comment 47, posted at 17.02.10 20:37:32 by rekinek Reply
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  • i know how you feel i like go and close my eyes and hold thumbs like a real baby would do and then the bad news but i really now we must and will win this one they might think they are going to win but sharks don’t go down very easly
    go sharks

  • Comment 48, posted at 17.02.10 20:37:33 by Charmaine Reply

  • @rekinek (Comment 46) : Just wait for a Sharks win….it does wonders for the relationship… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 49, posted at 17.02.10 20:37:59 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @rekinek (Comment 45) : Well after Rory got that last kick over. I went crazy thought we had won it just to see the game still on. Then we gave away a penalty. Damn that was hard to take.

    Now we need to make amends for that game. One word DISCIPLINE. We do that we will have a chance of beating the Cheetahs. Who really looked good against the Bulls. Bulls were very good but like I said many times if it was another team Cheetahs were playing they would have won that game. So it wont be easy this Friday but we can do it now with some changes.

    Good to see John at hooker and Ruan at FH. Going to make a difference. Adi at inside center!! not too sure about that but he is a good player.

    They have some serious speed in there backs. Wonder how Mapoe will play at outside centre? He is such a talent that youngster. Big, strong and very fast. Their front row too is very good and also their loose trio. I feel though our front row with John back at hooker will be just fine, our loose trio is good too.

    Sorry that Muller and Mostert are out though.

  • Comment 50, posted at 17.02.10 20:41:29 by Puma Reply

  • @Charmaine (Comment 48) : I’m confident we’ll do it this Friday, the team is soooooooo much more setled than they were on Saturday…we had the court case last Friday and Meyer’s retirement…this week we’ve got Ruan at 10 and Adi at 12, we looking pretty.

    If we can’t win this Friday with this team, we’re not ever gonna win this season…

    GO SHARKS!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 51, posted at 17.02.10 20:41:41 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @Puma (Comment 50) : there = their

  • Comment 52, posted at 17.02.10 20:42:28 by Puma Reply

  • @Puma (Comment 50) : I think we’re in for a great game of rugby and I can’t see the Sharks even resembling the team we saw last Saturday.

    This week they had time to settle, the big injuries got sorted early, no court cases and no un-expected retirements at FH, of all positions.

  • Comment 53, posted at 17.02.10 20:45:28 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 51) : Fires, We have to win this Friday.


    Okay with that I am out of here. Cheers all.

  • Comment 54, posted at 17.02.10 20:45:41 by Puma Reply

  • @Puma (Comment 54) : Cheers Puma….two more nights to go before all will be revealed… 😉

  • Comment 55, posted at 17.02.10 20:47:07 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 53) : You right there Fires. No mind problems for our players this week, which would have made them more settled. Good to know Ruan is going to play FH. Think he is going to do really well there, especially now that Rory will take the kicks. So pressure off of him, just has to concentrat on his game.

    Okay out of here. Cheers Fires. Catch up tomorrow.

  • Comment 56, posted at 17.02.10 20:47:38 by Puma Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 55) : Hope it is a happy ending on Friday night 😀

    Cheers mate.

  • Comment 57, posted at 17.02.10 20:48:41 by Puma Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 51) : i agree there with you what are we going to do if we lose again i don’t want to go there its to sore to even think about it but to go to another team i don’t think so

  • Comment 58, posted at 17.02.10 20:52:42 by Charmaine Reply

  • @Charmaine (Comment 58) : Sies nee, can’t ever cheer for another team…anycase, black is always in fashion 🙂

    If Adi is on song Friday we’ll have a very dangerous attack, Rory, Ruan, Adi and Waylon…with JP on the wing….this can easily be the Springbok backline…combined with a scrum with forward momentum now that John is at 2 and this team will take some real determination to stop.

    The biggest enemy will be the weather, but I see the Cheetahs only arrives on Friday, not a smart move as the humidity in Durban this time of year is barely bareable for the locals, nevermind visitors. Aparantly no rain expected so should be in our favour.

  • Comment 59, posted at 17.02.10 21:00:51 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 59) : yes that not to good but then for us they will be to moeg to do anything
    how about that

  • Comment 60, posted at 17.02.10 21:07:53 by Charmaine Reply

  • Can anyone confirm the distance of the long kick Rory got over, was it 50m, if so, didnt realise he had the boot to reach it.

  • Comment 61, posted at 17.02.10 21:10:20 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • The first one was 40m out and 15 from the side. And the second one was 48m out and also just about 15 from the side. Supersport showed the distance as being 57.2m. He cleared it by enough to get it into the stands, I don’t know what he did, but I think he added a couple of meters to his kicks.

  • Comment 62, posted at 18.02.10 02:00:48 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 3) : I learned something today, I really didn’t know you couldn’t play the ball even when it was knocked backwards.

    I think maybe what they said about Kockett being tackled without carrying the ball influenced Strauss being offside. Because usually when a player knocks a ball backwards his players has to go past him to get to the ball. Kockett was tackled over the ball that was moving backwards and therefor Andries picked the ball up from an offside position.

    But really it all started with the ruck, actually we should have known something like that would happen in a situation like that with a ref like that. If the Sharks was smart they would have gotten that ball out of there as fast as possible and kicked it away as far as possible. No one team had more than a few phases before the ref got on his whistle.

    Does anyone know what kind of actions are being taken against this ref, because there is still 5 games he is appointed to, and I feel just a little sorry for the teams who will face him. Although, I also find it a little funny, because this time it won’t influence the sharks.

  • Comment 63, posted at 18.02.10 02:26:27 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 63) : “Does anyone know what kind of actions are being taken against this ref” – Probably nothing, I think he is blowing the Stormers game (or is it their chances?) this weekend.

  • Comment 64, posted at 18.02.10 05:54:19 by MysticShark Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 16) : Knowing it is Kaplan makes me feel alot better, just hope he does not favour the Cheetahs

  • Comment 65, posted at 18.02.10 07:22:21 by dawnwallenkamp Reply

  • @Letgo (Comment 62) : Dbl damn, never knew Kockot had it in him. Great to know we’ve got a distance boot in him also…might not by a Steyn, but we’re getting there

  • Comment 66, posted at 18.02.10 08:50:04 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @MysticShark (Comment 64) : 😆 I think it’s their chances

  • Comment 67, posted at 18.02.10 08:50:35 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @dawnwallenkamp (Comment 65) : Well I can’t see anyone being as one eyed as that other one…guess the Stormers will be next in-line to complain about that useless ref, can’t believe they didn’t make his first few games kiwi local derbys….

    Luckily old Kaplan is sort of profesional…even though he has been known to be a box 😆

  • Comment 68, posted at 18.02.10 08:53:27 by FireTheLooser Reply


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