Just to re-iterate… we’re (still) behind you all the way

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 3 Mar 2010 at 06:00
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I want to make this very clear yet again, just in case it’s not yet understood. Just because I occasionally write negative-seeming articles about the things I see going on the Sharks camp, that doesn’t mean I’ll ever stop supporting them. Supporting the men in black and white is a lifelong habit and no run of poor form could ever possibly change that.

Sure, I may question the coach and his ideas. I may throw down the (virtual) gauntlet to the administration as well, in the interests of getting the house cleaned up and everybody pointing in the same direction. The intention, as always, is to further the cause of Sharks rugby and help the team be as successful as they can be. I have never been an advocate of the ostrich approach, but I hope you will all believe me when I say that my goal here is not to stir up controversy and sow dissent where there wasn’t any before.

I love the Sharks and I want them to win. I can take a loss, because every team has to lose sometimes. I can even take a string of losses, provided I can see some evidence that the team (and the coach) learns something from them. I see Rory Kockott spoke to Mike Greenaway about people “kicking the team when they’re down” and although I don’t feel I’m as guilty of that as others at the moment, the fact is, I do feel a pang of regret and realise that my writing of late may well be construed in such a light.

So, once again, let me get right back to basics here. There’s a big game coming up this weekend and the Sharks need all our support if they’re going to turn their season around and record a win against the Waratahs in Sydney. I know I’ve been particularly hard on them this week, but maybe that’s just lashing out due to my personal disappointment about how the last three games have gone. That’s in the past now and I wish all of them – and that includes John Plumtree – nothing but the very best for Saturday.

This week the Sharks website is running an initiative similar to the one we did last week, so I’d like to urge all Sharks supporters who read this article to head on over to this page and submit a message of support for our boys.


  • rob don’t you get tired of jumping over the fence all the time. be careful one day you are not going to jump high enough and you’re going to get your … caught. πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

  • Comment 1, posted at 03.03.10 07:13:18 by try time Reply
  • i love your little guilt trips where you feel you have to justify your outbursts. no need, if the sharks feel you are being to harsh they should first look at their game before criticising their supporters. πŸ˜†

  • Comment 2, posted at 03.03.10 07:17:12 by try time Reply
  • The team having been talking big in the media, now we have to wait and see if they deliver on saturday

  • Comment 3, posted at 03.03.10 07:37:26 by war1 Reply
  • here is my justifying why the sharks have no right to attack their fans. they have had five games where they could have showed they were going to play according to their pre season talk. they have yet to show a 20 consecutive minutes of the game they promised the fans they would play. i heard them talk about using the ball, creating opportunities etc, but for five games we have seen the forwards do shit loads of work and a backline that gives the ball back to the opposition without a fight. stefan might as well just say, don’t worry here have the ball my forwards have just been kicked punched elbowed to get. i’ll give you an easy up and under for you to catch and run with. don’t worry my forwards can get it back for me.

  • Comment 4, posted at 03.03.10 07:38:04 by try time Reply

  • @war1 (Comment 3) : they have been talking big for a while. i want to see a fighting team not fighting words.

  • Comment 5, posted at 03.03.10 07:38:47 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 5) : I have to agree with you here… Unfortunately…. I say unfortunately because I have been a sharks supporter since I can remember. I started playing rugby during “The Team Of The Nineties” domination. I (Sharks Fans) am now really getting fed up of playing in the semis, finals and then losing.
    These guys need to step up and start to deliver. Weve got 12/13 Springboks on the pitch at any one stage. So F#c% Hugh Reece Edwards, I lay this so called losing streak squarly on his shoulders. We are playing High School rugy because we are being coached by a High School coach!! For peets sake fire him if someone needs firing!!!

  • Comment 6, posted at 03.03.10 08:01:22 by SharksRTB Reply

  • ?? What just happend to my post??

  • Comment 7, posted at 03.03.10 08:02:29 by SharksRTB Reply

  • @try time (Comment 1) : :mrgreen: 😈

  • Comment 8, posted at 03.03.10 08:03:16 by wpw Reply
  • @try time (Comment 4) : Say it like it is :mrgreen:

  • Comment 9, posted at 03.03.10 08:06:18 by Pokkel Reply
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  • What am I doing wrong?

  • Comment 10, posted at 03.03.10 08:08:25 by SharksRTB Reply

  • @try time (Comment 4) : I feel the team has no grounds to attack us fans. We`re not a star studded team that doesn`t deliver are we?

    Having said that, the media with their ” 11 bokke in Sharks starting line up ” really gets under my skin.
    Do we really have 11 current bokke in this team?

    Stefan was a bok back when I was still in high school I think.
    Odwa hasn`t been getting game time.
    Murray, was he ever a bok? Maybe the mid week team
    Adi is only selected when Jdv and Olivier isn`t available
    Pieterson might still be a regular starter although I don`t really see that happening in the near future
    Pienaar gets to play off the bench if at all
    Kankow is in a very distant 2nd position to Pierre Assegaai
    Deysel I think only started for the mid week team as well and with the embarresment of riches SA have at flank he`ll struggle to get a look in again.
    Muller is rated about 5th or 6th in SA right now, Sykes might be higher than him on the ladder at this moment behind the obvious stars then Bekker and Daan.
    Botes and Daniel aren`t bokke are they?
    So what we really have is a Bok front row only, which lets be honest only looked good when BJ Botha joined them.

    That`s what . . . 3 or 4 current bokke?

    So if Mapoe and Nokwe gets to play for the bokke this year, as I believe they will, we`ll be pretty much on par with FS`s contribution.

    Is it really fair to expect big results from this team, virtually deprived of bokke?

  • Comment 11, posted at 03.03.10 08:09:26 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • Comment 12, posted at 03.03.10 08:10:16 by SharksRTB Reply

  • @SharksRTB (Comment 6) : can’t blame him. he isn’t with the squad. he was left behind apparently.

  • Comment 13, posted at 03.03.10 08:14:27 by try time Reply

  • @Pokkel (Comment 9) : yeah i am sick of feeling bad for players that get paid to perform and play as a team. i will back the forwards to the hilt (they have worked their arses off so far this season), but i don’t want to hear 9 to 15 whinge.

  • Comment 14, posted at 03.03.10 08:18:01 by try time Reply

  • @Original Pierre (Comment 11) : what people are saying is they were good enough to be a bok, so why serve us such shit week after week. but i also agree with you i see more heart from a non bok like baywatch.

  • Comment 15, posted at 03.03.10 08:20:41 by try time Reply

  • GO SHARKS !!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 16, posted at 03.03.10 08:23:19 by Charlie Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 16) : your sarcasm is becoming a little much. πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

  • Comment 17, posted at 03.03.10 08:33:15 by try time Reply

  • Is our criticism really that unjust? I think not. Season after season we see our team play brilliant Rugby and alot of the times they seem to be ahead of the pack just to stumble at the last and most important hurdle. I’m sorry Rob but we as supporters deserve MORE!!!! We criticize the team because of our passion for the Sharks. The players are adults and should be treated like adults. If you don’t perform you will get flack… the same will happen to me if I don’t perform at work. So Rory and the rest of the team should get over it and start living up to all the hype. AFTER ALL THEY HOLD THE KEY TO STOP ALL THE NEGATIVE THINGS BEING SAID ABOUT THEM!!!

  • Comment 18, posted at 03.03.10 08:33:39 by Farlington Reply

  • @try time (Comment 15) : Operative word there is ” were”.
    Might be fun to see a couple of possible bok teams on here.

    If the Boks had to play this weekend, who would you guys select?
    Of course I`ll go first hehehe

    Beast, Smit, BJ ( if allowed ) otherwise WP Nel, Schalla, Daan, Victor SteelPlate Matfield, Juan Smith, Pierre Assegaai, Fourie, Morne, Habanero, Olivier, Jaque, Mapoe, Joe Peterson.

    also starring : Gary Botha, Heinke vd Merwe, Bekker, Stegmann, Pienaar ( cause there`s no one else really ) Juan de Jongh, Zane Kirshner.

    There you go, maybe not the best possible combination right now but bear in mind it`s half past eight in the morning?

  • Comment 19, posted at 03.03.10 08:35:13 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 17) : Staying positive, no sarcasm, leave that to the Koeie supporters πŸ˜‰

  • Comment 20, posted at 03.03.10 08:39:18 by Charlie Reply

  • @Original Pierre (Comment 19) : nice team, and probably the form team at present. but i would like to add, if you were once good enough to make a bok team, you have the talent. so there is no excuse for a twelve month slump. pick up your game or retire.

  • Comment 21, posted at 03.03.10 08:42:12 by try time Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 20) : i know you are. just giving you a little rib tickle. πŸ˜†

  • Comment 22, posted at 03.03.10 08:43:11 by try time Reply

  • My view on the Sharks – I will never stop supporting them and will always hold out hope for a good performance, but when they play like they have been, they should not feel bad about the supporters criticism, in fact they should take that criticism and work on it. Yes, they have lost 3 consecutive games, but personally I think they are the ONLY team that gets ongoing bad calls from the ref and linesman. That must surely affect their game in some way?

  • Comment 23, posted at 03.03.10 09:21:28 by dawnwallenkamp Reply

  • The guys in black and white still have my FULL support ❗ ❗

  • Comment 24, posted at 03.03.10 09:22:32 by dawnwallenkamp Reply

  • I think if Mr SharksRTB posts another comment the entire interweb will blow up… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 25, posted at 03.03.10 09:25:50 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 6) : i like this guy! πŸ˜€

  • Comment 26, posted at 03.03.10 09:30:29 by Megatron Reply

  • Well, I can understand is people like Kockott are fuming. Some of the players are trying their hardest to win the games, while others look like they just do not care.

    I’ll always support my beloved Sharks, but when some of the players are just there to pull a (pretty huge) paycheque, that pisses me off. I hope each player shows a bucketload of commitment on Saturday.

  • Comment 27, posted at 03.03.10 09:32:50 by PTAShark Reply
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  • @PTAShark (Comment 27) : rory is the on the same fence rob is jumping over. rory (with beard) was brilliant game one. game two (beardless) he had a shocker. and game three it was borderline. but i agree it must be tough passing ball to a backline that gives it away, when you have been ridiculed for doing the same thing.

  • Comment 28, posted at 03.03.10 09:44:54 by try time Reply

  • When all the backline players get the ball in a stationary state all the time – then its time for criticism.

  • Comment 29, posted at 03.03.10 09:49:09 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • “I see Rory Kockott spoke to Mike Greenaway about people β€œkicking the team when they’re down”” what are we supposed to kick the team when it is doing well. come on rory, you threw away great momentum last year by not changing your game to give your defenders a rest. you cannot be patted on the back for losing to the two wooden spooners. then you throw away a currie cup semi final after cruising through the pool games. then you guys promise attacking rugby and give us three kak games. what the hell do you want from fans? champagne and caviar. win on saturday then complain about your fans.

  • Comment 30, posted at 03.03.10 09:54:37 by try time Reply

  • @SharksRTB (Comment 12) : sorry – minor glitch. All fixed now

  • Comment 31, posted at 03.03.10 10:03:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • i suppose it is only fair to see rory’s side?

  • Comment 32, posted at 03.03.10 10:10:20 by try time Reply

  • ALLLLL the way. πŸ˜›

    Rory, please stop feeling sorry for yourself. Feel sorry for us :mrgreen:
    I wonder whether they realise how much abuse we get when they loose πŸ™„ πŸ˜†

  • Comment 33, posted at 03.03.10 10:11:20 by rekinek Reply
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  • wow – the “sense of entitlement” that the average Sharks fan seems to have is frankly bizarre. You guys use words like “we deserve”, “we are owed”, etc… not sure where those ideas come from?

  • Comment 34, posted at 03.03.10 10:15:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • what i find humorous is greenaway listens to rory’s criticism of fans being harsh, then he says “If Plumtree goes that route, it will be one of Super rugby’s great gambles, although if Goode is useless, Kockott could come on at No.9 and Pienaar would revert to No.10, where he has been unconvincing in a backline that has been toothless.”
    useless, toothless. isn’t that being as critical as the fans. πŸ˜†

  • Comment 35, posted at 03.03.10 10:15:38 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 35) : he is also a fan :mrgreen:

  • Comment 36, posted at 03.03.10 10:19:51 by rekinek Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 30) : we took the kicking idea from the sharks themselves – they also kick and kick and then kick some more.

  • Comment 37, posted at 03.03.10 10:21:46 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : VERY good point!

  • Comment 38, posted at 03.03.10 10:21:47 by war1 Reply
  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : i don’t think “deserve” is too strong, but “owed” i do agree with. i don’t think it is wrong that fans that have backed the team through thick and thin over decades, deserve a better performance when that was “promised” by coaches and players.

  • Comment 39, posted at 03.03.10 10:22:08 by try time Reply

  • @rekinek (Comment 37) : classic. πŸ˜†

  • Comment 40, posted at 03.03.10 10:24:07 by try time Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : i guess it comes from the success that has come from the team the last few years, we have been contenders in all competitions we played in, now when the team does not look like contenders we turn on them. What did the haemophiliac horde do pre-2002? let’s not be hypocritical

  • Comment 41, posted at 03.03.10 10:24:39 by war1 Reply
  • @war1 (Comment 3) : If by talking big you mean the usual, drab cliches like “turning negatives into positives”, “playing for each other”, “playing for 80min” or “our aim is to score more tries” then yes, we’re talking a huge game.

    Whenever I read the comments on the news, whether it’s by Smit, Muller, Kockott or Plumtree, I get this powerful sense of deja vu.

    Have we heard it all before or do I just have special powers?

  • Comment 42, posted at 03.03.10 10:35:53 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 41) : i did not know that rugby as sport existed – so I guess I cannot be accused of kicking then :mrgreen:

  • Comment 43, posted at 03.03.10 10:36:08 by rekinek Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 39) : but what are you expecting them to say? “We don’t know what we’re doing wrong or how to fix it?”

  • Comment 44, posted at 03.03.10 10:40:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 44) : simple keeping quiet would work in such instance, don’t you think?

  • Comment 45, posted at 03.03.10 10:44:00 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 44) : heh-heh that sounds more honest. πŸ˜›
    I can just picture that post-match interview.

    John: Well, Bob, I have absolutely no clue what is going on and how to fix it, see you next week, bye!

  • Comment 46, posted at 03.03.10 10:45:18 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 44) : i don’t want them to say anything. i don’t want to see them play like woodenspooners. they have arguably had the worst looking backline of the three rounds. and it all stems from the 2009 gameplan. they could have claimed they were caught by the new laws had plum not done a whole article about how it will suit the sharks. the problem is they have almost talked themselves into this hole.

  • Comment 47, posted at 03.03.10 10:48:58 by try time Reply

  • @rhineshark (Comment 42) : yup it seems like a timewarp back to 2009. if it wasn’t for soccerballs everywhere, i could get confused. πŸ˜†

  • Comment 48, posted at 03.03.10 10:52:05 by try time Reply

  • i suppose the only players that can really feel aggrieved with this criticism are the forwards. on the whole they have been the only positive in the sharks. 8 men can’t beat 15. rory can’t say anything, he single handedly lost the game against the cheetahs. 14 points missed through poor kicking.

  • Comment 49, posted at 03.03.10 10:59:39 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 48) : My biggest fear is that the Sharks are going to become so kak that we are going to turn into Cheetahs or Lions supporters.

    You know, sort of not really expecting much and being over the moon with delusions of “everything is going to be allright” when we win once in a while or lose narrowly.

    Only to get hammered again the next game, but all the while cheering them on, Sharks flag in hand and hoping for the best with the rest of the rugby playing world thinking: Poor Bastards.

  • Comment 50, posted at 03.03.10 11:00:38 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 49) : i disagree – they have not produced enough pressure and enough quality ball for the backs.
    not that that exonerates the backs.

  • Comment 51, posted at 03.03.10 11:01:38 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 45) : ja well – they don’t have the option either. Smit ducked the interview after the Cheetahs game and that also caused an uproar.

  • Comment 52, posted at 03.03.10 11:01:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 50) : when you sign up as a fan, you need to accept all possible scenarios. Otherwise you should rather just support whichever team is winning.

    This current drought will separate the men from the boys, let’s just put it that way.

  • Comment 53, posted at 03.03.10 11:03:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 51) : watching that crusaders game, the backline got a lot of good ball, the backline just collected the ball standing still. no-one is running onto the ball, except ryan.

  • Comment 54, posted at 03.03.10 11:08:29 by try time Reply

  • @rhineshark (Comment 50) : yeah, you can string fans along for so long.

  • Comment 55, posted at 03.03.10 11:09:49 by try time Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 52) : in that interview all John had to express was his disappointment – I don’t think he would have been expected to talk about game plan.

    And I doubt Rory was forced to talk.

  • Comment 56, posted at 03.03.10 11:10:54 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 53) : i couldn’t give a hoot about what the drought will do to the fans. my concern is what it will do to the team. i think it is going to be an interesting couple of years for the sharks. the sharks need to build for next year. the new s15 structure could help the sharks, but they need the team to do it. also the big question over the new stadium is still in the air.

  • Comment 57, posted at 03.03.10 11:14:01 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 54) : i did not watch this one, based my opinion on the first two.

  • Comment 58, posted at 03.03.10 11:20:34 by rekinek Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : Well Rob maybe the “average” Sharks supporter is becoming frustrated that the team they support does not deliver on all the potential within the team. Every weekend you cheer the team on come hell or high water. In the last 10-12 years the Sharks have reached the playoffs more times then I care to remember, having only won one throphy. Did that stop the average supporter from remaining faithfull. Hell No.

    But please don’t expect the supporters to keep quiet when there is clear lack of commitment from the players/coaches/management. There are problems that need to be addressed and ignoring them won’t make them go away.

    And just one question… what will become of a team when there are no more supporters???

  • Comment 59, posted at 03.03.10 11:26:41 by Farlington Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 53) : That’s right.

    Taking the rough with the smooth is part of it. As Natal supporters we should be used to this.

    The problem is that we know what they are capable of. Why can just about every other team in the competition manage to get quick ball from the rucks, get over the advantage line more often than not and create try-scoring opportunities.

    Forget the tries. We are not even creating the opportunities to score them. That is a huge worry.

    It’s different when you ctiticise a bunch of youngster from your local club side. We are talking about highly paid professionals here.

    Negative comments, which more often than not are spot on in identifying the problems, don’t necessarily amount to a lack of support – sometimes it’s the best medicine.

  • Comment 60, posted at 03.03.10 11:29:25 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 60) : I agree!!

  • Comment 61, posted at 03.03.10 11:32:30 by Farlington Reply

  • @Farlington (Comment 59) :
    When the supporters have bailed then the team players will just move on to the next willing buyer – and there will be lots of those for most in this team.

  • Comment 62, posted at 03.03.10 12:07:49 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 62) : No supporters are bailing. The fact that people are spending hours on a forum worriedly discussing their team proves this.

    Besides, we love the Sharks as a team. If half of them go away next season then we’ll shout for whoever takes their place.

  • Comment 63, posted at 03.03.10 12:12:10 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 62) : Exactly…no support no team.

  • Comment 64, posted at 03.03.10 12:18:01 by Farlington Reply

  • @rhineshark (Comment 63) : exactly.

  • Comment 65, posted at 03.03.10 12:20:45 by rekinek Reply
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  • BTW :

    On – we can send messages of support for the team.

  • Comment 66, posted at 03.03.10 12:25:21 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 63) :
    Agree, but the question was “what will become of a team when there are no more supporters?” seeing the attendance at the tank lately this may be a relevant question, even Loftus looks emptiyish considering the Bulls success, overseas teams dont seem to be doing much better.

  • Comment 67, posted at 03.03.10 12:31:23 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 67) : i blame dstv (now allegedly in HD)

  • Comment 68, posted at 03.03.10 12:35:48 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 68) :

  • Comment 69, posted at 03.03.10 12:42:56 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 66) : you didn’t read the article, did you? πŸ™‚

  • Comment 70, posted at 03.03.10 12:53:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 67) : We could do like the NZ’ders and only play at 20 000 capacity stadiums so that it looks full house all the time :mrgreen:

  • Comment 71, posted at 03.03.10 12:55:10 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 71) :
    Woodburn stadium here we come!!!!!
    Yeah the stadia in NZ are small and then the crowd is still not big – not good times for the bean counters. Then again Ive heard it many times that the real money comes from the tv broadcasting rights and not bums on seats.

  • Comment 72, posted at 03.03.10 13:14:33 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 70) : i kinda did 😳

  • Comment 73, posted at 03.03.10 13:21:55 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 72) : πŸ˜† I remember dreading the weekend if I saw we were going to play at the Woodburn stadium. It seemed like we lost way more than we won when we played there and the tv footage always looked it was provided by some guy with a handycam who sitting on the middleline.

    You’re right – the media moguls make the real money and even they’re worried about declining spectator numbers.

    I think the real problem is that rugby rules leave too much open to interpretation, so the IRB are continually changes things in order to find a “fool-proof” rule set that everybody (including any idiot with a whistle) can understand.

    With a game changing all the time there is no real chance for players to settle into a regiment from schoolboy right through to international level. That is the main reason why rugby will never be as big as soccer.

  • Comment 74, posted at 03.03.10 13:28:21 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Some dreadful grammar and other errors in that last one, but edit thingey has given me the finger.

  • Comment 75, posted at 03.03.10 13:35:17 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 67) : rugby audiences in the sh has dwindled. i think it is because of overkill. in nh the heineken has teams pitted against different teams each year. also they only play each six nation team once. here we have tri nations where each team plays eachother three times, we have s14 with the same teams at the top etc. another factor is unions ripping fans off. In SA you can go to a soccer game for R20. The Namibia vs Bafana game tonight at the white Elephant are R40. Lets look at poor Sharks season ticket holders in the West Stand. Their tickets cost R1600. For that they get 6 s14 games and 7 cc games for certain. So they fork out R123 per game. And so far they were treated with two disgusting performances. And the players think they are being hard done by.

  • Comment 76, posted at 03.03.10 13:56:12 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 76) : to be fair R 1600 are teh most expensive tickets, with all kind of extras added (SharksMag, sunday times, vouchers, casino credits etc, discounts at sharks cage etc.). there are ones that are much cheaper. the cheapest is R 1000.00. plus i think you get one test.

  • Comment 77, posted at 03.03.10 14:18:23 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 77) : no test at absa this year. most the extra items are promo stuff and the ticket cost doesn’t cover this.

  • Comment 78, posted at 03.03.10 14:30:44 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 78) : but sth you don’t get with soccer tickets.

  • Comment 79, posted at 03.03.10 14:45:24 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 79) : then compare like with like. how much is a super 14 ticket? how much is a kaizer chiefs ticket? R100 vs R 30. Rugby supporters are still getting fleeced.

  • Comment 80, posted at 03.03.10 14:54:22 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 80) : yes. they are – it must be a demand factor then.

    i am not sure how packed the soccer stadia are – are they?

  • Comment 81, posted at 03.03.10 14:57:31 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 81) : the same as rugby.

  • Comment 82, posted at 03.03.10 15:08:56 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 76) : Jeez who would pay that? I thought the whole idea of a season ticket is to get a discount, but I can get tickets at newlands for less that 120 !

  • Comment 83, posted at 03.03.10 16:14:38 by Original Pierre Reply
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