In defence of Plum

Written by Alan Williams (Baldrick)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 5 Mar 2010 at 10:46
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From the outset, let me state this, I am a Plum fan BUT I believe he has made some mistakes as coach. But, I also don’t think all these calls for his head are justifiable and I think panic is setting in which is the very last thing you need.

The facts are these – the team has lost three from three, and in all the matches so far, they weren’t out of it until the end of the game. I don’t believe fitness is an issue, last week jetlag probably set in, and in the Chiefs game, I don’t believe the ref got the calls right leading up to the penalty (that was justified, but he missed hands in the maul, players off their feet and players ahead of the kicker from the Chiefs prior to the penalty).

Why, when a team wins, the players are good, but when they lose, the coach is rubbish?

I put the blame firmly on the players for not fronting up, and in particular, the Springboks. If they can’t perform, perhaps the coach needs to drop them? But then, when they came into a Sharks side that ended the pool stages of the Currie Cup at the top of the log, home ground advantage assured for the final, the Boks were rushed back in and the team promptly folded.

Plumtree was damned if he did and damned if he didn’t – if the team had lost with a young side he would have been criticised – perhaps more.

The lack of tries is another criticism, but who is to blame? Is it the backline coach (or coaches) or the players or the disruptions?

Ruan Pienaar is low on confidence. Steve Meyer returned then retired. Juan Hernandez got injured. Monty didn’t deliver. What team has to lose four flyhalves and be expected to play well?

We have a backline incapable of breaking the line, but the players we have are not suited to that. Swannie is a crash ball player, and a damn fine one at that, but he does not possess twinkle toes to do something special.

Adi is off form and Waylon can’t find his. JP is not up to scratch at the moment, although he has class, and Odwa is fulfilling a very different, almost second fullback role, but doesn’t have the pace or swerve of a Sivivatu or Habana.

The forwards are doing the job, no doubt there, but they basically don’t want to pass the ball to the backs!

I think that playing Alberts at 7 not 8 – where he is ideally suited, especially when you have a retreating scrum – is a problem, but again Plumtree is damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. A former loosie himself, surely he knows more about the dynamics of the back three than us couch potatoes?

Finally the Du Plessis vs Smit conundrum. What do you do here, you have all three and only place for 2. Bissy is probably the best hooker in SA, but Smit is the best captain. He’s also battling at tighthead prop.

So the truth is, Plum is damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. He throws in a youngster like Lambie and what happens if he breaks him this young?

Damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.


  • Still with guys like Lambie and Mvov’s, you’ve got to at least try them out. I really don’t see the point of sticking by players that continually fail us and having Lambie and Mvovo carry tackle bags on tour. Don’t they at least deserve 5 minutes?

  • Comment 1, posted at 05.03.10 10:57:51 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 1) : Burden as well. Must be tearing his hair out at the moment

  • Comment 2, posted at 05.03.10 11:03:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • Chaos in the Sharktank and even bigger chaos between the Sharkworlder’s and the fans. Everybody has a theory and the truth is nobody REALLY knows where the problem lies….I agree with you though…the first game could have come our way and in the second Rory missed 14 points, BUT I would still have been very concerned with the Sharks problems on attack and the fact that they can’t seem to adapt to the new law interpretations

  • Comment 3, posted at 05.03.10 11:11:53 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 3) : there’s not really chaos here… just a bunch of differing opinions

  • Comment 4, posted at 05.03.10 11:25:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 1) : Those 2 guys have played like 3 or 4 games between them. Lambie came on in the CC at centre. So to put him in at 10 in the S14 could break him. He played well against the Stormers in the warmup game, but at 15 and he has Stef and Ludik to fill that spot.

    Mvovo has pace, but also very green. He is fast but defensively and positionally suspect and made a few poor decisions on attack in the CC to suggest he needs a lot more game time before being entrusted at S14 level. Especially if he is going to take over from Odwa who is safe under the high ball and has a huge work rate.

    JP disappoints me because he has so much class, but he’s off.

  • Comment 5, posted at 05.03.10 11:29:50 by Baldrick Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : 😉

  • Comment 6, posted at 05.03.10 11:30:33 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 5) : Plum? Is that you?

    It’s risk v reward at the end of the day. I don’t think anyone is foolish enough to think that picking Lambie, Mvovo, etc isn’t risky and that there isn’t a chance it could backfire spectacularly. But one thing that is for sure – they’re not going to get any better carrying tackle bags. It would be more sensible for them to be playing Vodacom Cup.

  • Comment 7, posted at 05.03.10 11:34:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • Isn’t that where Mvovo is? Lambie is getting a taste of being at the top, without the pressures and it will come. While he isn’t the prodigious talent of Steyn, he has huge talent and could be our long term answwer at 10. I’d rather bring him in slowly over a year, and then get 10 years out of him, then play him to death and burn him out before he’s 23.

    I’ll put my head on a block and say this kid will be a Bok one day, despite his size.

    How big is Giteau?

  • Comment 8, posted at 05.03.10 11:42:44 by Baldrick Reply

  • @Baldrick (Comment 8) : nah dude. You’re confusing Mvovs with Vulindlu. The latter is playing for the Sharks Xv, while the former is sightseeing in Sydney.

    I agree with you re Lambie. He’s not a lot smaller than Giteau, if at all. But he should be on the bench at least.

  • Comment 9, posted at 05.03.10 11:50:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • Just a question…Plum was ‘offered’ a 3 year extention on his contract…did he accept the offer??

  • Comment 10, posted at 05.03.10 12:04:18 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 10) : not yet, to my knowledge

  • Comment 11, posted at 05.03.10 12:07:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) : And you are part of the inner sanctum of unknwon faces who know these things?

  • Comment 12, posted at 05.03.10 12:09:31 by Baldrick Reply

  • @Baldrick (Comment 12) : no dude. I read it on the internet

  • Comment 13, posted at 05.03.10 12:15:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • You sound like Thbo Mbeki 😉

  • Comment 14, posted at 05.03.10 12:20:07 by Baldrick Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : Actually, the fact that I haven’t seen Mvovo confused me, I don’t rate Vulindlu I’m afraid. But hopefully it’s a case of being groomed for greater things, and the belief that a player will take in more training with Boks and the senior side than at VC level?

  • Comment 15, posted at 05.03.10 12:21:39 by Baldrick Reply

  • @Baldrick (Comment 15) : Mvovo is the dude with the dreads.

  • Comment 16, posted at 05.03.10 12:32:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • i would like to state i am not baldrick. i know he said everything i said yesterday, but i am not him. but thanks baldrick for backing me up yesterday. 🙄

  • Comment 17, posted at 05.03.10 12:40:05 by try time Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 16) : mvovo is the one that doesn’t knock every second ball on. and actually runs up the field with the ball (eventhough it is away from his support).

  • Comment 18, posted at 05.03.10 12:46:54 by try time Reply

  • baldrick why didn’t you just copy and paste what i said yesterday, it would have saved you time. 😆

  • Comment 19, posted at 05.03.10 12:48:46 by try time Reply

  • a victory tomorrow can get sharks up to ninth on the log. there is at least one positive.

  • Comment 20, posted at 05.03.10 12:51:45 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 20) : Yipeee 🙄

  • Comment 21, posted at 05.03.10 12:53:50 by Pokkel Reply
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  • sharks really don’t get any luck, we play a kiwi side at home and instead of getting an sa ref as should be the case, we get a crap kiwi ref. tomorrow we get a aussie ref against an aussie team. sharks aren’t hitting any luck this year.

  • Comment 22, posted at 05.03.10 12:55:21 by try time Reply

  • @Pokkel (Comment 21) : its better than hanging with the lions and cheetahs. 🙂

  • Comment 23, posted at 05.03.10 12:56:00 by try time Reply

  • ok it does look odd that baldrick is off when i’m on and vice versa, but i promise i am not baldrick. 😆

  • Comment 24, posted at 05.03.10 12:57:55 by try time Reply

  • i don’t even like turnips, nevermind a nice big turnip in the country.

  • Comment 25, posted at 05.03.10 13:00:11 by try time Reply

  • 😯 ya sure TT ?? 😆

  • Comment 26, posted at 05.03.10 13:06:11 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 18) : yes, agree. Zuks is the bloke with the devastating step, but his hands and defensive alignment need work.

    Mvoves is pretty bloody good on defence. And pace to burn. Let’s not forget the o’Driscoll incident.

  • Comment 27, posted at 05.03.10 13:13:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 25) : The ‘new look’ TT 😎
    Does this mean the end of the ‘tits and ass’ era? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 28, posted at 05.03.10 13:18:55 by Pokkel Reply
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  • anyway, I’m done with being down on the Sharks for today.

    GLORY to the black and white – and the white and black.

    So who’s going to Newlands tomorrow? Hands up?

  • Comment 29, posted at 05.03.10 13:22:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 28) : i realised there were bigger tits than me on the site, and even if i tried harder i couldn’t match them. 😆

  • Comment 30, posted at 05.03.10 13:23:14 by try time Reply

  • i’ll always be an ass though. 😆

  • Comment 31, posted at 05.03.10 13:23:37 by try time Reply

  • Those out for Plum’s blood, just remember how terrible a coach Frans Ludeke was when he was with the Lions. The fans wanted him out.

    The Lions said OUT. The Bulls said THANKS.

  • Comment 32, posted at 05.03.10 13:24:06 by Oubaas2009 Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 27) : mvovo made some awesome runs last year. if only he would run in field and bring in his support, he could be what the sharks are looking for. i agree he should be on the bench this week.

  • Comment 33, posted at 05.03.10 13:25:39 by try time Reply

  • @Oubaas2009 (Comment 32) : it would be interesting to see if it is because bulls administration assists more than the lions. i wonder how plum would fair coaching the bulls. they just seem to have a wealth of depth. you can see whose academy is better.

  • Comment 34, posted at 05.03.10 13:27:53 by try time Reply

  • @Oubaas2009 (Comment 32) : That was his 1st season and he wasn’t settled. Plum has been around for a while 🙄

  • Comment 35, posted at 05.03.10 13:27:59 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 30) : @try time (Comment 31) : 😆

  • Comment 36, posted at 05.03.10 13:30:34 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 35) : no he has been around as long as frans.

  • Comment 37, posted at 05.03.10 13:33:02 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 37) : what I’m trying to say is that the Bulls got better and the Sharks worse in the same time.

  • Comment 38, posted at 05.03.10 13:35:25 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 38) : that is structures and admin. bulls have made some good buys and have brought in some good youngsters, sharks well is the opposite.

  • Comment 39, posted at 05.03.10 13:39:30 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 18) : This “running away from support” thing is bullshit. The support players are supposed to run into supporting positions.

    That is one thing Campo said is a problem with SA teams. The Aussies and NZ players learn from a young age that it’s the supporting runner’s responsibility to get into a position to take the off-load.

  • Comment 40, posted at 05.03.10 13:44:57 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @try time (Comment 25) : 😆 Love that episode.

  • Comment 41, posted at 05.03.10 13:46:30 by rhineshark Reply
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  • No need to respond – will just repeat yesterday’s whole thread.

    What is Plum’s current record as S14 head coach for the Sharks?

  • Comment 42, posted at 05.03.10 13:51:31 by Morné Reply
  • @rhineshark (Comment 40) : yeah but mvovo is young and fast the rest are pensioners. hard for old ballies to keep up. 😆
    @rhineshark (Comment 41) : it is definitely one of my favourites.

  • Comment 43, posted at 05.03.10 13:51:35 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 43) : 😆 And any of them with Flasheart in it.

  • Comment 44, posted at 05.03.10 14:10:48 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Talking of Frans Ludeke, wasn’t he also the Bulls coach when they lost every game one year, I think that’s still a record.

    So what changed?

    A. the players,
    B. the mindset – play as a team, win as a team. Play as individuals, lose as individuals.

    Any any pillock who says the sharks are being coached to play as individuals is… well, a pillock.

  • Comment 45, posted at 05.03.10 14:50:02 by Baldrick Reply

  • @Baldrick (Comment 45) :

    No, that was Meyer.

  • Comment 46, posted at 05.03.10 14:55:17 by Morné Reply
  • @rhineshark (Comment 40) : That’s true, but when they do and the ball-carrier runs away from them and then loses the opportunity he set up, then he’s to blame. That comes with experience.

  • Comment 47, posted at 05.03.10 15:03:12 by Baldrick Reply

  • @Morné (Comment 46) : And we all know Meyer is a bloody good coach.

  • Comment 48, posted at 05.03.10 15:03:50 by Baldrick Reply

  • I’m looking forward to seeing Goode tomorrow. While he’s a very ordinary player, his tactical kickinng is far better than anything we’ve had for a while. He’ll sit deep in the pocket to give himself extra time which won’t help our backline but will do wonders for the forwards.

    I’d be interested to know how much influence Plum had in his signing – it’ll say a lot about the type of game he’s trying to play.

  • Comment 49, posted at 05.03.10 15:04:51 by Flashman Reply

  • Howzit Rob – told you I’d be back!

  • Comment 50, posted at 05.03.10 15:05:22 by Flashman Reply

  • @Flashman (Comment 49) : I think it was a matter of looking at all the flyhalves in the world, we’ve used up most of them. Just see what’s left and try our luck!

  • Comment 51, posted at 05.03.10 15:18:13 by Baldrick Reply

  • @Flashman (Comment 50) : hey hey! Good to see you again

  • Comment 52, posted at 05.03.10 15:24:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Flashman (Comment 49) : if not goode, then at least a little better 🙂

  • Comment 53, posted at 05.03.10 15:40:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 42) :

    Played 16, Won 8

    5 of the losses were in Durban.

  • Comment 54, posted at 05.03.10 15:46:32 by fyndraai Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 48) :

    At the time the Bulls were in serious shit, players walking out, Joost publicly criticising Meyer, contract disputes, sponsors walking out, Bulls losing against the likes of Pumas, Falcons and Griquas (in the CC proper).

    Union was in deep shit.

    Little bit different from the Sharks currently won’t you say?

    @fyndraai (Comment 54) :

    50% then.

    63% losses at home.

  • Comment 55, posted at 05.03.10 15:58:14 by Morné Reply
  • Anycase time for me to go.

    Enjoy the weekend.

    Let’s hope the Sharks turn it around.

  • Comment 56, posted at 05.03.10 15:59:11 by Morné Reply
  • @Baldrick (Comment 47) : The problem is that the ball carrier can only play what’s in front of him. If Adi breaks the line he should reasonably expect his wing to be on his outside with his flyhalf and/or maybe openside flank on his inside.

    Irrespective of where he goes, he should have options on both sides before the defense closes him down. I’m just using Adi (at 13) as an example, but too often we see a player break the line and run away from support simply because the support is too slow, too slow to react or don’t run the correct lines.

  • Comment 57, posted at 05.03.10 16:47:41 by rhineshark Reply
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  • I’m off as well gents. Got a good feeling about this weekend. Enjoy!

  • Comment 58, posted at 05.03.10 16:48:56 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 58) : Tschüss!

  • Comment 59, posted at 05.03.10 16:53:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Flashman (Comment 49) : Goode is a stop gap, he isn’t brilliant but he isn’t the worst either. He was only picked for England after Jonny, Danny, Olly, Charlie and Toby were out injured.

    I don’t think Goode will lose us any games but he certainly won’t win us any either.

  • Comment 60, posted at 05.03.10 17:46:46 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 60) : Well let us hope he does not go off with a yellow again, that will cost us.

  • Comment 61, posted at 05.03.10 17:52:11 by Puma Reply

  • Also see some not to sure to play the younsters, I say we should. Lambie is a super talent and so is Mvovo. Play them. Look how well Bulls are by playing their youngsters.

  • Comment 62, posted at 05.03.10 17:53:15 by Puma Reply

  • @Puma (Comment 62) : meant – youngsters. 🙄

  • Comment 63, posted at 05.03.10 17:54:01 by Puma Reply

  • I have now written so many articles about backing youth… 🙂 Don’t think I can face doing another

  • Comment 64, posted at 05.03.10 18:00:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • Perhaps with our back to the wall we may see a bit of adventure with the selections. Terblanche and Ndungane are safe picks, their experience makes up for their lack of pace and physicality on defence but then leaves us with two backline players who don’t contribute on attack.
    I would love to see first Mvovo picked on the wing for a couple of games and then once he’s settled – wheel out Terblanche.

  • Comment 65, posted at 05.03.10 18:26:27 by Flashman Reply

  • @Flashman (Comment 65) : I reckon Odders could be a revelation at 13, with Wheels Mvovo outside him

  • Comment 66, posted at 05.03.10 19:04:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • very best of luck for tomorrow sharks fans/Play with passion and commitment and it may be the start of the turnaround. Talent is there.

  • Comment 67, posted at 05.03.10 19:06:08 by grant10 Reply

  • I hadn’t thought of that. Although moving from centre to wing is one thing but wing to centre is a lot harder – the positional play is far more involved.

  • Comment 68, posted at 05.03.10 20:04:05 by Flashman Reply

  • @Flashman (Comment 68) : I’m a forward, so I know very little about the “fancy positions” 🙂

  • Comment 69, posted at 05.03.10 20:12:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • The one thing i find consistently in life is that people complicate simple things: shave off complexity by applying Occam’s Razor: basically, the simplest solution that accounts for all the data is the correct one.

    Plumtree is the coach, and in the modern game, that is more than just the guy who teaches basic skills and strategies: he provides a vision for the entire squad and support team.

    It is patently, painfully clear that the Sharks are lacking in any kind of adaptation for modern rugby. This is a problem that has its roots planted some seasons ago, but Plumtree has completely failed to adapt the team strategy to accomodate the modern game, and as current coach, he must take the rap for this.

    The Sharks are like an old company that has failed to adopt their strategy to the modern world: we are still training to play specific plays during a game, despite the fact that the speed of the modern game makes the targetting of specific moves foolhardy.

    I realise more and more that Muir and Campese were very on point with the focus on player skills and willingness to play the situation in front of them: you need skillful, empowered players, playing to a broad strategy, and we just dont have that: nobody other than Kanko seems to have the confidence in himself or his team-mates to just “pick up the ball and run”.

    Sorry if I am rambling guys, but I just dont see a team with faith, belief and hunger anymore.

  • Comment 70, posted at 05.03.10 21:26:32 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 70) : I hear ya, fishface, I hear ya!

  • Comment 71, posted at 06.03.10 00:40:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • All the things you point to in plumtree,s defence baldrick are all things that are part of the coaches job description .big fish is right ,if there is infighting among players or players not pulling there wait it is the coaches job to fix theses problems .He has to be the senior leader and if his not the one to fix these problems then ,who else is suppose to fix them.He might not get paid the most money ,but he knew all these things were his job when he accepted the job .If this was his first year coaching i,d say give him slack but it,s not ,the team needs to make progress not go backwards and if theirs no progress being made then the man in charge gets the fall ,

  • Comment 72, posted at 06.03.10 03:04:47 by zvision10 Reply

  • The sharks revolution plan

    This is what must be done fellow sharks supporters .We get 1 million sharks supporters to put up R200 (they get to go to one free match per season).We then buy a controlling stake in the sharks (a few goverment hands might have to be greased a bit).To ensure that Brain Van Zyl steps down sharks matches must be boycotted till he steps down .We then appoint a panel of people appointed by sharks supporters to hire a new C.E.O ,what about sa rugby you ask well thats why goverment hands must be greased a necesary evil .rudolf ,stefan terblanche .odwa ndungane and Hugh reece get fired and banned from kwazulu natal for eternity this includes any decented ,trust me it,s needed .The the board must consist of 1/4 former sharks rugby legends ,1/4 busness people appointed by the C.E.O and half must be nominated sharks supporters who serve two years and get replaced by other supporters who put up R200 (This isn,t a pyramid scheme trust me)

    and once democracy reigns free in sharksworld ,we have no one to blame but ourselves and brain van zyl (it will be part of his severence package that he still gets blaMED FOR EVERYTHING)

    Amen sharksworld Amen

  • Comment 73, posted at 06.03.10 04:04:49 by zvision10 Reply

  • @Big Fish (Comment 70) : Most of you know that I sail competitively and I often find similarities between rugby and sailing. When I coach young sailors, we talk about strategy and tactics. Strategy being the plan we (sailor and coach) can put in play for the race. Tactics are how the sailor reacts to situations on the course. No matter how good a strategy I might put in play, the other racers on the course, and the changing winds and currents will dictate, tactically how the sailor reacts.

    Rugby is the same way, the coach and coaching staff can place a strategy in play, but the opposition (and the referee) will ultimately dictate how a team should play (tactics). Plum can only prepare the players physically and mentally, and then place a strategy into play. How the players react to the game situation is out of the coaches control.

    This fact, that the players themselves must ultimately make the tactical decisions during a game is what makes rugby such a great game (in my mind). In my opinion, the problem with the Sharks does not lie with the coach, these are professional sportsmen, there is no reason each and every one should not show up and play to their best potential.

    The problems with the Sharks lies not with the coach, there is a problem with the current culture. The players will not put their lives on the line for each other. Why I don’t know, but it is clear. This is not the team we have seen for so many years. I remember reading the tour reports daily when the Sharks were on their Australasian tours. There was always something going on as a team, whether going whitewater rafting, bungee jumping, or just playing silly buggers as a team back at the hotel. Guys like Craig Davidson were always doing things off the field to bring the team together. What has happened to that spirit? Find the answer to that, and I think you will solve all the Sharks problems.

  • Comment 74, posted at 06.03.10 07:01:25 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • I think dancing bear has hit the nail on the head. The problem seems to be a total lack of hunger. No amount of coaxing or cajoling or motivating from the coach can right that. Only the players can. Sadly none of the senior players are doing any of their reputations any good whatsoever. Maybe that will reflect in the bok squad composition later this year and ahead of the RWC.

  • Comment 75, posted at 06.03.10 08:40:11 by Baldrick Reply

  • Example: Bissie – superb rugby player of this there is no douby, but let’s look at his most prolific talents. Strong open field runner (runs to upright to be an effective runner in tight situations), steals the ball effectively at ruck time. Clearly he is superior to a John Smit in these two traits. So what does John bring at hooker? Well just about everything that is important at hooker not the razzle dazzle and flair that Bissie brings. John is an awesome scrummager at hooker, Bissie is weak at best. John is incredibly consistent throwing into lineouts, Bissie is a crap shoot, John is ever present providing support and bulk at rucks and mauls, Bissie is hanging in the line waiting for his moment of glory. Everything John does aids the team, everything Bissie does aids Bissie.

    I’m afraid there are far too many Bissies on the team and not enough John Smits. Even Beast seems more interested in his glory runs than the hard work. Kanko and Keegan are far too individualistic as is Rory. Ruan’s head is so screwed up he doesn’t know what to do to help the team. Even JPP is sitting on his wing waiting for the ball for his glory run. I feel bad for Odwa, because he is still working hard as always, but he has lost that pace he used to have, and is just not the offensive threat he used to be, but every wing out there can learn how to work hard and look for ball as a wing from both him and his brother.

    Unfortunately the 2010 Sharks are a group of incredibly talented rugby players and about the furthest thing from a team.

  • Comment 76, posted at 06.03.10 09:08:59 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 76) : The sad truth is that if you go from 1 to 15, you could probably find faults with every one which a year ago this time, you would have said the exact opposite.

    Do good players go bad in a year, doesa good coach who won the CC go bad as well?

    A number of contributing factors, but I have a sneeky suspicion there is a strong element of fatigue, mental and physical that is having a major effect on this team.

  • Comment 77, posted at 06.03.10 10:22:55 by Baldrick Reply

  • Goooo Sharks, just do it, Good luck.

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