Daniel, Ndungane doubtful

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 9 Mar 2010 at 12:00
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News from the Sharks camp is that two players are in danger of missing out on Saturday’s game against the Brumbies.

Keegan Daniel suffered a knock to the head against the Waratahs and will need to be cleared on concussion before he’ll be allowed to play again. Should he miss out, Jacques Botes would be a natural replacement at openside flank, while Plumtree will need to decide how to reshuffle his bench as a result.

Odwa Ndungane has a tight hamstring as well, but is expected to recover in time. Either Lwazi Mvovo or Pat Lambie may well get a chance should Ndungane fail to recover in time.


  • Bright Side Immediately comes to mind!!! Lwazi to play wing, i would be more than tempted to Have Deysel at 6 though, when deysel, kanko and alberts were on against the tahs we Looked powerful and were retaining major ball as well as going over the advantage line regularly

  • Comment 1, posted at 09.03.10 12:05:50 by Miguel Reply
  • @Miguel (Comment 1) : agree. As much as I love both Keegan and JB, neither has had any measurable impact so far this year.

  • Comment 2, posted at 09.03.10 12:11:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • it looks like my evil plan is coming to fruition. now just for stefan. 😆 actually i like stefan, we need him on defence. but we don’t need odwa and stefan doing the same thing.

  • Comment 3, posted at 09.03.10 12:11:03 by try time Reply

  • this might a very good thing, mvovo on, and lambie extra on the bench, with one less loosie on the bench

  • Comment 4, posted at 09.03.10 12:20:08 by willa Reply

  • @willa (Comment 4) : well i hate it when injuries sort sharks problems out. but this could be a blessing. i would however prefer it if common sense would sort the issues out rather than the rugby gods intervene. pity they didn’t strike down some referees. 😆

  • Comment 5, posted at 09.03.10 12:23:27 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 3) : 😈

  • Comment 6, posted at 09.03.10 12:30:38 by Charlie Reply

  • ndungane won’t be missed, even keegan hasn’t been a trailblazer this season…so it’s a good opportunity for Plum to field young players…

  • Comment 7, posted at 09.03.10 12:35:50 by Megatron Reply

  • @Megatron (Comment 7) : assuming he takes it and doesn’t go with the brainfart default of playing Waylon at wing…

  • Comment 8, posted at 09.03.10 12:38:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 8) : Why do I have the feeling that`s exactly what`ll happen? 😯

  • Comment 9, posted at 09.03.10 12:41:04 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 8) : Need some experience on the bench and who else 😉

  • Comment 10, posted at 09.03.10 12:42:10 by Charlie Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 8) : Unfortunately Waylon is not having his best season this year. I think he’s still recovering from last year’s disappointments and still building up confidence. A stint with the Sharks XV would probably have been a lot more productive than playing a bit role on tour.

  • Comment 11, posted at 09.03.10 12:44:20 by Baldrick Reply

  • @Original Pierre (Comment 9) : because you’ve seen this film before 😉

  • Comment 12, posted at 09.03.10 12:44:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 11) : well, he is being nobbled somewhat by the fact that he never really gets the ball in space. Still, agree that he’s not looking his best.

  • Comment 13, posted at 09.03.10 12:46:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 11) : yeah. but i suppose with the shortage of centres plum wanted him. but now with all lost, plum has a chance to polish his player development skills up. he can’t keep falling back on dick muirs work, as there is nothing left.

  • Comment 14, posted at 09.03.10 12:49:43 by try time Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 13) : that is also true. an outside centre is only as good as the players inside him. jacque fourie is also having a quiet year and the stormers attack a lot more than the sharks.

  • Comment 15, posted at 09.03.10 12:51:18 by try time Reply

  • Guys lets face it, try time is right. The sharks could have had Masaga and Sivivatu on the wing it wouldn`t have made a difference. Without proper distribution skills in mid field, wings and outside centres doesn`t really count for much.

  • Comment 16, posted at 09.03.10 12:57:46 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 16) : Add On . .. I`m tempted to say Meyer Bosman is better than anything we have available at 10 / 12 right now. . .

    Oh Oh should I have said that?

  • Comment 17, posted at 09.03.10 12:58:57 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • I think it would be a blessing in disguise if Odwa failed to recover. I feel he has lost a lot of pace and doesn’t

  • Comment 18, posted at 09.03.10 13:02:54 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Miguel (Comment 1) : Agree 100%. Just play Deysel at 6 Aberts at 7 and Kanko at 8. No problem with that at all. Being saying it for a long time to start that loose trio.

    Also maybe this is a chance for Mvovo to start too.

  • Comment 19, posted at 09.03.10 13:06:25 by Puma Reply

  • I still think our problem is 12 and not wings Wonder if Lambie could play 12? having Good and Swanie together doesnt work I also think if Odwa is not going to play move JP to 14 his bok position and play mvovo at 11 I also dont think and alberts/Dyesel flank combo will work no pace it will force Kanko to play tighter and that is not his game

  • Comment 20, posted at 09.03.10 13:07:17 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 17) :

    Bosman had one good game. He is not that bad but he is also no Jean De Villiers!! 😈 :mrgreen:

  • Comment 21, posted at 09.03.10 13:10:36 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 21) : He`s not Jean that`s true but he can cover 10 as well and that`s what the Sharks need right now I think.
    Bosman runs straight which is more than can be said of . . . well anyone in the sharks team right now.
    I`m not saying sign the guy of course that`s impossible. I`m pointing out the fact that FS, with their low budget have a better player available than the sharks with all their alleged bokke . . .
    Getting back to Jean, nobody in his right mind would leave cape town for durban, but swopping Bloem for Durbs . . . now that`s been known to happen . . .

  • Comment 22, posted at 09.03.10 13:16:24 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • maybe the great sharks academy, could actually do its job and start getting players for the gaps in the sharks.

  • Comment 23, posted at 09.03.10 13:16:38 by try time Reply

  • it could look at a few loosies it is developing and convert them to centre.

  • Comment 24, posted at 09.03.10 13:17:15 by try time Reply

  • @Original Pierre (Comment 22) : yeah their academy produces more than ours. oh hang on………..oh sorry guys i have just been informed the cheetahs don’t have an academy. 😆

  • Comment 25, posted at 09.03.10 13:19:13 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 24) : Daniel inside and Kankow outside try time? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 26, posted at 09.03.10 13:19:31 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 26) : not a bad idea. i wish i had thought of that. or how about ryan and adi. 😆

  • Comment 27, posted at 09.03.10 13:24:21 by try time Reply

  • The Academy is a money making scheme… 😐

  • Comment 28, posted at 09.03.10 13:24:56 by Charlie Reply

  • @Original Pierre (Comment 26) : @try time (Comment 27) : Clutching straws ❓

  • Comment 29, posted at 09.03.10 13:25:51 by Charlie Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 28) : i told you that ages ago. 😆

  • Comment 30, posted at 09.03.10 13:32:08 by try time Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 29) : better than the current certainty. 😆

  • Comment 31, posted at 09.03.10 13:34:04 by try time Reply

  • @Charlie (Comment 29) : Well lets see . .. Kankow plays his best rugby there, he`s fast, well compared to our outside backs at least but most compelling of all: He`s better than all our so called bok centres put together!

    But relax, it won`t happen in a million years, StaalPruim are too rigid in their approach hehehe

  • Comment 32, posted at 09.03.10 13:35:10 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • i wonder if the sharks will moan about their fans trying to tell them what to do. they moaned when we bitched about their form, now that we are offering solutions, are they going to moan about that.

  • Comment 33, posted at 09.03.10 13:43:03 by try time Reply

  • @Original Pierre (Comment 32) : 😈

  • Comment 34, posted at 09.03.10 13:45:55 by Charlie Reply

  • Deysel at 6, Mvovo to wing.

    Cant be simpler.

  • Comment 35, posted at 09.03.10 13:47:33 by Morné Reply
  • @Morné (Comment 35) : Tell that to Plum 🙄

  • Comment 36, posted at 09.03.10 14:05:55 by Pokkel Reply
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  • actually everyone turn your attention to miguel’s avatar in comment 1. then ask yourself, when last have you seen a sharks center doing that?

  • Comment 37, posted at 09.03.10 14:05:59 by try time Reply

  • talking of miguel, what happened to mvovo’s q&a.

  • Comment 38, posted at 09.03.10 14:06:31 by try time Reply

  • @Morné (Comment 35) : Deysel alberts will be too slow George Smith will kill us at the breakdown and will force Kano to play tight and that is where we will lose the game with that loose trio

  • Comment 39, posted at 09.03.10 14:13:15 by Fattmann Reply
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  • @Fattmann (Comment 39) :

    The emphasis in the breakdown in not the first man there, it is who the second guy there is so speed is no longer such a big issue at the tackled area, strength is.

    Kanko can afford to play his natural game with two direct forward loosies in tandum.

  • Comment 40, posted at 09.03.10 14:23:33 by Morné Reply
  • @try time (Comment 37) : I`ve got the answer!

    It was Jeremy Thompson and he played next to Dick Muir. It was brilliant . . . oh for the good old days!

  • Comment 41, posted at 09.03.10 14:29:25 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 35) : Amen to that Morne, Being saying it for a long time now. Deysel should start at 6 Alberts at 7 and Kanko at 8. Mvovo much faster than Odwa too.

    Will Plum start with that loose trio though? I hope he does.

  • Comment 42, posted at 09.03.10 14:32:03 by Puma Reply

  • @Morné (Comment 40) : Morne, Agree with strength there. With Deysel and Alberts we have that. Just hope Plum can see that and not start with Botes.

  • Comment 43, posted at 09.03.10 14:35:12 by Puma Reply

  • I agree with Morne – most of the turnovers this season have come not from the first man ripping but the second and third drving over. Playing with two slow flanks is risky but their strength could make up for it. It’s a risk though and our management aren’t known for their sense of adventure.

  • Comment 44, posted at 09.03.10 14:36:03 by Flashman Reply

  • @Original Pierre (Comment 41) : Remember when Muir left for WP how Thompson’s game went backwards. Muir was the brains in that backline.

  • Comment 45, posted at 09.03.10 14:39:27 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 45) : True, of course I never gave Muir much credit, to me Thompson was the beginning and end of everything back then. aaah the ignorance of youth.

  • Comment 46, posted at 09.03.10 14:44:34 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 41) : 10 out of 10. those were the days when the sharks played rugby. now the bulls play like that and the sharks play like …. you can choose any one of many derogratory words that aptly describes our backline.

  • Comment 47, posted at 09.03.10 14:49:31 by try time Reply

  • @Pokkel (Comment 45) : remember how murray’s game went backwards when brad left?

  • Comment 48, posted at 09.03.10 14:50:10 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 38) : hey there! yeah its still coming , Lwazi may be a little busier seeing as he might actually get a chance 😉 or he is a little tied up carrying tackle bags 🙄

  • Comment 49, posted at 09.03.10 14:50:16 by Miguel Reply
  • @Puma (Comment 42) : the chances of me growing a usable set of t*ts before Friday are 1000 times higher.

  • Comment 50, posted at 09.03.10 14:51:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Miguel (Comment 49) : i thought as much. just wanted to let you know we were still interested.

  • Comment 51, posted at 09.03.10 14:54:01 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 48) : Same story and I’m afraid Swannie isn’t the playmaker that we need at 12.

  • Comment 52, posted at 09.03.10 15:04:49 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 52) : yeah i really like swannie, but he just isn’t finding 5th gear.

  • Comment 53, posted at 09.03.10 15:12:34 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 53) : I’m not sure he has a 5th gear 🙄

  • Comment 54, posted at 09.03.10 15:15:16 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 54) : i was hoping he did. 🙁

  • Comment 55, posted at 09.03.10 15:16:18 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 55) : You don’t really need a guy with a 5th gear at 12, you need someone that can read the game and think on his feet. Muir wasn’t fast but he was damn effective and he made everybody around him look great

  • Comment 56, posted at 09.03.10 15:20:26 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 56) : thats the 5th gear i was talking about. if it is speed i am looking for i would use nitros.

  • Comment 57, posted at 09.03.10 15:25:14 by try time Reply

  • @try time (Comment 57) : Trevor Halstead wasnt a flyer either

  • Comment 58, posted at 09.03.10 15:38:55 by Miguel Reply
  • @Charlie (Comment 28) : Blame Straeuli….been one of his babies since his appointment in October ’05, I think that was the last time it yielded any big time rugby stars.

  • Comment 59, posted at 09.03.10 16:43:56 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @wpw (Comment 21) : and it is not that he had good game, he just landed his kicks. He is now Morne Steyn :mrgreen:

  • Comment 60, posted at 09.03.10 16:47:12 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 60) : Agreed on that, the perfect player would be Frans Steyn then……I bet Steve Walsh misses him more than we do though :mrgreen:

  • Comment 61, posted at 09.03.10 16:52:06 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @Miguel (Comment 58) : yes but at least when he played, crash ball worked. it is a waste of good ball now.

  • Comment 62, posted at 09.03.10 17:15:39 by try time Reply


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