Last chance saloon for Sharks

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super 14 on 25 Mar 2010 at 08:35
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For the chance to stand any chance whatsoever of sneaking into this year’s Super 14 semi-finals, they simply have to find a way to win in Wellington this weekend.History has shown that a team will typically need to accumulate somewhere between 41 and 43 points to go through to the play-offs, with the Bulls in 2006 being the only team to ever qualify with fewer (they got through on 38). The Sharks, 6 games into the season, have amassed a paltry 8 points and cannot afford to lose again.

It’s an old cliche, but every game from here is a final for them.

To get to the magic number of 42, they’ll need another 34 points from 7 games. That means that, over and above simply winning each and every one of those matches, they’ll need to score a staggering 6 four-try bonus points along the way as well. In other words, if the Sharks still harbour any faint hopes of winning this year’s tournament, any thought of conservative rugby will have to go straight out of the window.

It’s a pretty big ask, though, having just managed to turn a string of losses around, to expect the Sharks to down the Canes, at home, with a bonus point. My thinking is that a win here, any old win, will be good enough and that the team can then regroup and start chasing those tries once back on home soil. One thing that is absolutely clear, though, is that winning against the Hurricanes is absolutely non-negotiable.

There are no more chances, Sharks – you simply have to get this one right.


  • canes to blitz the sharks!

  • Comment 1, posted at 25.03.10 08:46:13 by Megatron Reply
  • @Megatron (Comment 1) : 👿 👿 👿 👿 👿 👿 😈

  • Comment 2, posted at 25.03.10 08:49:08 by Chaz Reply
  • any news on the sharks team?

  • Comment 3, posted at 25.03.10 08:50:04 by grant10 Reply
  • GO SHARKS GO :mrgreen: never mind Megatron he is just one his own level 😆 :mrgreen:

  • Comment 4, posted at 25.03.10 08:50:08 by Chaz Reply
  • if sharks in it with 20 minutes to go the travel may be the key….sharks y 5….

    if Smit not at 3…

  • Comment 5, posted at 25.03.10 08:51:19 by grant10 Reply
  • @grant10 (Comment 3) : not on SS still waiting 🙁

  • Comment 6, posted at 25.03.10 08:51:28 by Chaz Reply
  • GO SHARKS GO :mrgreen: and win all the way to the semi :mrgreen:

  • Comment 7, posted at 25.03.10 08:54:40 by Chaz Reply
  • @Megatron (Comment 1) :

    Not nice but true. 🙁

  • Comment 8, posted at 25.03.10 09:03:32 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @Chaz (Comment 6) :

    We get emailed the team as it gets released. We will have it same time as SS. Expect it to be announced this afternoon sometime

  • Comment 9, posted at 25.03.10 09:04:52 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Rob

    I think the Stormers might have qualified for the semis in 2004 with 33 points. 😯

    I am too lazy to check this myself of course!!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 10, posted at 25.03.10 09:07:16 by wpw Reply
  • @grant10 (Comment 3) :

    YOU ARE OBSSESSED DUDE!!! :mrgreen: 🙄

  • Comment 11, posted at 25.03.10 09:08:34 by wpw Reply
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 9) : thanks 😆

  • Comment 12, posted at 25.03.10 09:09:59 by Chaz Reply

  • Good day all my Sharks friends!.Excellent Rob!. I agree 100%!. The Sharks need to get it right against the ‘canes and i believe they will get much more confidence out of winning in wellington than the win against the Highlanders.

    One thing that realy bothers me is that Lwazi have not been given a chance, Odwa has been given many chances and didin’t take any of them. When last has Odwa played a good game???.

    If they think they had to put in everything to win the Highlanders…they are in for one hell of a surprise against the Hurricanes!.

    Lets just hope that the Sharks team that decide to show up on the day, wether it’s going to be that we don’t care attitude or a we will fight to the end attitude. The only way they will win is if a Sharks team show up, that still want to make the semi’s.

  • Comment 13, posted at 25.03.10 09:10:18 by The Shark Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 10) 🙁 what is this lazyness so early in the morning its nearly week-end :mrgreen:

  • Comment 14, posted at 25.03.10 09:11:08 by Chaz Reply

  • @The Shark (Comment 13) : haven’t heard from you in quite sometime you got a new jersey a couple of weeks ago me can’t seem to get the white one do you know were to get one because on the web they don’t show it but true words if the sharks want to be in the semi they have to start playing a great game and points to the board thats the only way 😆

  • Comment 15, posted at 25.03.10 09:15:28 by Chaz Reply

  • @wpw (Comment 10) : that was super 12. Try to keep up 🙂

  • Comment 16, posted at 25.03.10 09:19:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 10) :

    Fewest Log Points to reach the Semi-finals
    30 Sharks 1997
    31 Brumbies 2003
    32 Highlanders 2000
    32 Cats 2000
    32 Reds 2001
    33 Sharks 1996
    33 Crusaders 1999
    33 Chiefs 2004
    33 Stormers 2004

    BUT all these were years in which the S12 was still going.

    The lowest scores for the S14 years, with two more games being played, are.

    2006 38Pts Bulls (4th Bulls, 5th Sharks and 6th Brumbies all had 38 but Bulls had better PD)
    2007 42Pts Blues (2nd Bulls, 3rd Crusaders, 4th Blues all ended on 42)
    2008 41Pts Hurricanes (4th Hurricanes and 5th Stormers had 41Pts
    2009 41Pts Crusaders (4th Crusaders and 5th Waratahs had 41Pts

  • Comment 17, posted at 25.03.10 09:26:46 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 16) : Rob this lazy thing with wpw lucky the stormers are in rest other wise me don’t know they say its catching aaaahhh 😆

  • Comment 18, posted at 25.03.10 09:26:59 by Chaz Reply

  • till later my friends 🙁

  • Comment 19, posted at 25.03.10 09:32:21 by Chaz Reply

  • Realistically, the Sharks must concentrtate on just turning their season around and record no less than 80% victories.

    Focussing on semis now is useless imo.

  • Comment 20, posted at 25.03.10 09:45:12 by Morné Reply
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 17) : it’s almost like I looked that up before writing this 🙂

  • Comment 21, posted at 25.03.10 09:50:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • Think it will be just far, far too difficult to get to a semi. That would be really too much pressure for the players. Like in a 200/20 crici game having to get 15 a over for the whole game to win it. No just too much pressure. Rather let our team try and get a few wins and get ready for next year. Now that would be far more realistic. I would be happy with that. 😎

  • Comment 22, posted at 25.03.10 09:52:25 by Puma Reply

  • @Puma (Comment 22) : sorry meant 20/20 there 😳

  • Comment 23, posted at 25.03.10 09:53:08 by Puma Reply

  • @Morné (Comment 20) :


    As musch as we may like to hold on to that hope of making a Semi, we need to be realistic and realise that that ship has sailed. let’s concentrate on haveing a good second half of the season and end on a high.

  • Comment 24, posted at 25.03.10 09:58:57 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 21) :

    I thought it was just coincidence that you got it right. 😆

  • Comment 25, posted at 25.03.10 10:06:20 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 23) :

    Well if it was 200/20 then it would also be just to much pressure on the team only having 20 overs to bat. 😉 😛

  • Comment 26, posted at 25.03.10 10:07:47 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 16) :

    Super 12/Super 14, same difference!!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 27, posted at 25.03.10 10:15:25 by wpw Reply
  • The team is avaiable guys.

    Changes to last weeks run on side.

    Backline unchanged …Goode starting.

    Hargreaves in for Muller
    Alberts for Deysel
    Botes for Keegan

    AND the same front row. Smit at loosehead

  • Comment 28, posted at 25.03.10 10:17:29 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Rob, Sharks team is up on Sharksrugby.

    Same front row as last week.

    Alberts in for Deysel and Hargreaves for Muller.

    We still have Goode starting 🙁

  • Comment 29, posted at 25.03.10 10:19:18 by Puma Reply

  • @Pokkel (Comment 28) : Sorry Pokkel, never saw your post there. Almost posted the same as you 😛

  • Comment 30, posted at 25.03.10 10:20:22 by Puma Reply

  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 26) : I know corrected it in my post below that one……hehehe. 😉

  • Comment 31, posted at 25.03.10 10:21:48 by Puma Reply

  • @grant10 (Comment 5) : Tialata will be a different kettle of fish to Clint Newland ! 😯

  • Comment 32, posted at 25.03.10 10:33:11 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Chaz (Comment 19) : Hey yea im not sure if they sell the white jerseys at all, but if they do, you will definitely find them at mr.price sport.

    Butch we need you now!!!.

  • Comment 33, posted at 25.03.10 10:39:11 by The Shark Reply

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  • Strange to see Herbst and Beast on the bench, and three backs on the bench….interesting.

  • Comment 34, posted at 25.03.10 10:41:15 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @The Shark (Comment 33) : i’ve looked can get the cheetahs for hubby on the web but sharks new white jersy no try not even in the stores 🙁

  • Comment 35, posted at 25.03.10 10:44:08 by Chaz Reply

  • @The Shark (Comment 33) : I would prefer for us to rather experiment with Lambie at 10 than buy Butch for a huge price and risking his knee

  • Comment 36, posted at 25.03.10 10:45:19 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 36) : Heard from Puma the last time Lambie played FH was u/15, not sure but if that’s the case I’ll opt to have him at FB for the rest of the S14, and ease him in at FH for the CC.

  • Comment 37, posted at 25.03.10 10:50:55 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 37) : The Sharks chances of making the playoffs are just about non existant….why not start now?

  • Comment 38, posted at 25.03.10 10:52:32 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 38) : or let him receive some balls at 10 during the game and maybe start him against the Lions or Force

  • Comment 39, posted at 25.03.10 10:54:49 by Pokkel Reply
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  • team is up

  • Comment 40, posted at 25.03.10 10:56:05 by willa Reply

  • @Pokkel (Comment 38) : Don’t want to dent his confidence to soon.

    At FB he’ll be eased into the pressures that comes with the S14, from there the Sharks can build on the experience by moving him to FH in the CC, giving him time to adapt to the position.

  • Comment 41, posted at 25.03.10 10:57:26 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • @Pokkel (Comment 39) : True, actually much better to do it the way you suggest, that way he can get used to the position while in a pressure situation, with the back-stop of moving back to FB.

    Should do wonders for his confidence, it does the job for Ruan’s confidence at FH in the second half.

    Hopefully Plum is blogging today and reading your comment….time will tell. 😀

  • Comment 42, posted at 25.03.10 11:03:04 by FireTheLooser Reply

  • John has tweeted that he is playing Loosehead again this weekend…yay!

  • Comment 43, posted at 25.03.10 11:07:41 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • Whats up.
    All the other sites have the team up.

  • Comment 44, posted at 25.03.10 11:26:48 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • he Sharks:

    15. Patrick Lambie
    14. Stefan Terblanche
    13. Adrian Jacobs
    12. Riaan Swanepoel
    11. JP Pietersen
    10. Andy Goode
    9. Ruan Pienaar
    8. Ryan Kankowski
    7. Willem Alberts
    6. Jacques Botes
    5. Alistair Hargreaves
    4. Steven Sykes
    3. Jannie du Plessis
    2. Bismarck du Plessis
    1. John Smit ( Capt )

    16. Tendai Mtawarira
    17. Wiehahn Herbst
    18. Wilhelm Steenkamp
    19. Jean Deysel
    20. Rory Kockott
    21. Waylon Murray
    22. Odwa Ndungane

  • Comment 45, posted at 25.03.10 11:30:12 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 44) :

    Rob is just being a slacker as always!!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 46, posted at 25.03.10 11:32:03 by wpw Reply
  • Really excited to see Lambie keep his place, Stefan is much needed at 14 too, and John again at Loosehead. Dup Bros get to see if they can go 2 weeks in a row without a yellow card. Hargreaves and Alberts get the chance to step up too.

    Cant wait for Saturday.

    Black and White – all that matters!

  • Comment 47, posted at 25.03.10 11:32:47 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 45) : Odwa on the bench why? Maybe experience playing a good side like the Canes. Would have had Mvovo there way, way before Odwa.

    Pleased to see Deysel on the bench too and also Steenkamp. Herbst and Beast?

  • Comment 48, posted at 25.03.10 11:35:18 by Puma Reply

  • See Gale Force Winds and Rain still predicted for Wellington on Saturday. Going to be really foul weather to play good rugby in.

  • Comment 49, posted at 25.03.10 11:36:25 by Puma Reply

  • @wpw (Comment 46) :
    Must be, after all as KSA pointed out in @KSA Shark © (Comment 9) : all get the team at the same time.

  • Comment 50, posted at 25.03.10 11:37:40 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Puma (Comment 48) : Don’t know what Mvovo is like – but yeah right now, think that Odwa needs to be out to pasture…doesn’t have the speed, work rate or tackle ability of old….Last week Stefan definitely showed JP and Odwa how it should be done (infuriating kicks not withstanding). JP played much better as a result too.

  • Comment 51, posted at 25.03.10 11:42:28 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 49) : If that is the case it might be good that Goode is playing.

  • Comment 52, posted at 25.03.10 11:46:27 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t this this the first time we’ve had an unchanged front row this season??

  • Comment 53, posted at 25.03.10 11:49:07 by Gaff Reply

  • @Gaff (Comment 53) : I think so 😯

  • Comment 54, posted at 25.03.10 11:50:46 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 52) : Yes maybe. Going to have to play a very tight game. Also maybe why we have Herbst and Beast on the bench too.

    @Gaff (Comment 53) : Yip, Think this is the first time, we getting more consistent in selection….. 😆

  • Comment 55, posted at 25.03.10 11:51:23 by Puma Reply

  • @Just a Fan (Comment 51) : Look how well Lambie played getting chance. We have Mvovo on tour and have never given him chance. We will never know what we have in a player unless he gets a chance. I would have had Mvovo on the bench. Unless cause there is really foul weather predicted for Saturday maybe need players with experience. Who knows but I would have played Mvovo before Odwa from the start. By now he would have had a few games under the belt.

    Stefan was better on the wing than FB but he still dropped some. Still better than Odwa there though.

  • Comment 56, posted at 25.03.10 11:55:04 by Puma Reply

  • @Gaff (Comment 53) :

    Bro, are you new to the site??

    If so, welcome and hope enjoy your stay here!! 😎

  • Comment 57, posted at 25.03.10 11:59:03 by wpw Reply
  • at long last now i can do my thing :mrgreen:

  • Comment 58, posted at 25.03.10 12:11:08 by Chaz Reply

  • @wpw (Comment 57) : me think he’s been here for sometime got a star already :mrgreen:

  • Comment 59, posted at 25.03.10 12:18:37 by Chaz Reply

  • @wpw (Comment 57) : was drizzling during 1st half last week. he can be forgiven for dropping some – quite a few others dropped some to 😎

  • Comment 60, posted at 25.03.10 12:30:48 by Just a Fan Reply

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