Sharksworld is hearing worrying rumours that Stefan Terblanche is planning on carrying on playing for the Sharks during the Currie Cup. As much respect as I have for the great man, I’m afraid this would be a mistake. It’s time for Stefan to step aside and let a youngster establish himself in the side.
Even more worrying is the fact that, if historical precedent is anything to go on, Terblanche is virtually assured to be handed the squad captaincy, with both John Smit and Johann Muller unavailable for various reasons. In my view, it is vitally important for the Sharks to use this Currie Cup campaign as a vehicle for future growth and any player who is used in any sort of meaningful role during the campaign MUST be a certainty for the Super 15 in 2011.
Terblanche will not play on next year and showed that he cannot be selected at fullback ahead of Pat Lambie. nor is he a realistic option at outside centre. He has done wonderful things for the Sharks over a star-studded career, but risks doing his reputation irreparable damage if he keeps on going now.
No, I feel Stef should rather move aside, perhaps into some sort of junior coaching or mentoring role with the Sharks, as he has a wealth of experience to pass on to the younger generation. If he could work with the squad teaching them about positional play, fielding of the high ball, tactical kicking and, I feel most valuably, life skills (such as what true professionalism is about, looking after your body, etc) then he would be contributing far more to the setup and overall health of Sharks rugby than he would as a player.
The Sharks need to find (or buy) a useful centre combination that they can develop in the Currie Cup. Even more importantly, they need to blood a captain who is assured of a starting berth in the Super 15 team next year and will be with the team for at least the next five years. To my mind, picking Terblanche as captain ahead of Alistair Hargreaves would be a massive, massive mistake.
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100%. Agree. Oom Stef is passed his sell by date. Retire with dignity please Stefan. Hang up those boots.
rubbish. stefan has a lot to offer the team. lambie will be moving to fh, so steffie can take his 15 jersey back. they can try ludik at centre.
i really hate anti-terblanche propanganda. he has served the sharks well over the years.
@Oubaas2009 (Comment 1) : That said respect to you Oom Stef, you have been a Sharks legend after you brief time at Boland on the wing all those years ago! But I fear its time for the young guns to take over.
@try time (Comment 2) : Lambie at 10, Ludik at 15, Stemmet at 13.
In fact, here’s our CC backline
9 Rory, 10 Lambo, 11 Lwazi, 12 Swannie/JDV, 13 Stemmet, 14 Sithole/Murray, 15 Ludik
Get De Wet Barry in
@provincejoulekkading (Comment 6) : I think The Wet and Oom Stef should give John Allan a ring.
@robdylan (Comment 5) : baited hooked and reeled in. 😆 i wouldn’t get rid of stefan just yet, but i wouldn’t start with him. i think he needs to take the role albert vd berg had where an experienced campaigner is available on the bench if needed. but i am all for the sharks getting their backline sorted out with new youngsters. mvovo and lambie have already proven plum and his crew as twats for ignoring them in favour of undercooked favourites. a good coach would have dropped jp a lot sooner and not wait for a fortuitous injury. plum is far too conservative.
@Oubaas2009 (Comment 1) :
Love the new profile picture!! lol 😈
@Oubaas2009 (Comment 7) : 😈 😆
@wpw (Comment 9) : I think it was taken from my better side 😉
@robdylan (Comment 5) : 12 Swannie, 13 Stemmet, 14 Sithole/Murray…I would pick Stefan over all of these guys, you say Stefan will be handed a place in the team if you let these guys start in the CC that would just be handing them a place in the team. None of these guys has impressed enough to really be called up or replace any of the super 14 player…why else would we be talking about buying quality centers. Sure they show potential, but guys don’t just get selected on some potential shown in the VC. Swannie is only playing 12 right now, because we have no one else pushing at that position.
I would let Stefan start, on the wing or fullback or even center. He would definitely be my captain with Hargreaves as the vice captain.
Bring the you potential guys on in the last 20-30 min and start them in the smaller games, if their play is of a higher quality than the senior player in that position, then only will I start to select them to start.
@try time (Comment 3) :
Who are you and what have you done to try time?? 😯 👿
@robdylan (Comment 5) :
JDV?? bwahahahahahahaa 😆
What happened to Adi??
@Oubaas2009 (Comment 7) :
De Wet is only 31 now and still has a lot to offer imho. 🙄
With such a young side you cant boot Stef out. If anything, they should be begging him to see the CC out as the leader for the new blood. Is it his last? Yes. But he has a very important job to do. Mind telling me who else is gonna do it in this lot? And I don’t see JDV at 12 for the Sharks. For the Lions maybe…
9 Rory, 10 Lambo, 11 Lwazi, 12 Swannie, 13 Stemmet, 14 Sithole/Murray, 15 Ludik – THERE IS NO LEADERSHIP IN THIS BACK LINE! NONE!
@Oubaas2009 (Comment 7) : The pic suits the name my friend 😆
@robdylan (Comment 5) : I really do hope JDV comes to the Sharks. I think Adi Jacobs and him could form a fantastic combo in midfield, something that is desperately lacking.
It would also allow a young flyhalf to develop which is what the Sharks need. No more foreign signing, short term fixes. Lets get Guy Cronje or whoever else fits the bill up to scratch.
I say keep Lambie at 15. His cover defence and skills under the high ball are well suited to it. Also he should be given the goal kicking duties for the CC now that he has some confidence.
@wpw (Comment 15) : I agree, I think he would do wonders with the Elan Legends.
@Chaz (Comment 17) : Why thank you, I am starting Movember early this year.
Well it will be 🙁 to see oupa stef leave, but lets give a figure of doubt here leave him for the year 😛 and next year maybe 😕 do some coaching bring in the young ones and let them do their thing in the CC and well maybe we’ll have a better side for the S15 😆
@wpw (Comment 14) : same they left adi out i don’t think charlie will like this one 👿 😉
The sharks has done injustice to Oupa by pushing him into the holes they created.what is suppose to be one of his last and end his career on a high, he now has to sit with people like TT pulling him down. 😉
I personally think he is one of the most dedicated rugby players and always gives 100%. I salute him!
On the subject of Lambie. I really value Morne’s out and in the box opionions…MORRAS, what is your take on Lambie. What would you have done?
Oom Stef is a Sharks Legend and has done so much for us. But he is getting a little… well too experienced if you know what I mean. He does however still have a hell of alot to offer The Sharks and must remain a part of the team set up.
It is now time to plan for the future and the upcoming CC is the perfect time to get young blood into the squad.
My ideal CC team would look something like this.
1.Wiehan Herbst
2.Kyle Cooper
3.Pat Cilliers
4.Steven Sykes
5.Alistair Hargreaves
6.Jacques Botes
7.Micheal Rhodes (Jean Deysel if he does not get selected)
8.Willem Alberts (Justin Downey,if Alberts gets selected for Boks)
9.Charl McLeod
10.Patrick Lambie
11.Lwazi Mvovo
12.Craig Burden
13.Waylon Murray (needs some game time at 13)
14.Stefan Terblanche
15.Louis Ludik
prop/hooker/lock?
Keegan
kocket
Swannie
Sithole/Vulindlu
@Farlington (Comment 24) : thats so true we had and got a lot of talented players some go and some stay and some take pension its the way of life but my opion their is still alot of hmmm in those old legs of his so maybe in a year or 2 maybe 3 or as long as his legs can carry him on in the sharks side why not and then go and coach the xv i think he’ll be great as a coach 😉
GO OUPA STEF YOU ARE DOING GREAT
@Letgo (Comment 25) : GREAT TEAM AND LETS HOPE IF THEY GO THROUGH AS A TEAM WE WILL WIN AND WIN THE cc 😆
Rob why buy surely we have young players around 😕
there is an article on Sharksrugby about Botes and “taking the momemntu forward” into Currie Cup – can I assume now that he is not going anywhere 😛
Just realised not one Stormers player has been sent off this season.
WOW!! That is an amazing achievement!! 😎
Sanctionary Cards per team
Blues: Y, Y
Brumbies: Y
Bulls: Y, Y, Y, Y, C
Cheetahs Y, C
Chiefs: Y,Y,Y, C, Y, Y, C
Crusaders: Y, Y, Y
Highlanders: Y, Y, Y
Hurricanes: Y, Y, Y, Y
Lions: C, Y, Y, Y, Y
Reds: Y, Y, Y, Y, Y, Y
Sharks: Y,Y, Y
Stormers:
Waratahs: C
Western Force: Y, C, Y, Y
Y = Yellow card
R = Red card
C = citing with suspension
I would think it would look more like.
1. Pat Cilliers
2. Craig Burden
3. Wiehahn Herbst (if Jannie plays Bok’s)
4. Sykes
5. Hargreaves (c)
6. Botes
7. Deysel
8. ALberts
9. Kockott
10. Cronje
11. Mvovo
12. Riaan Swannie
13. Adi Jacobs
14. Odd One (although I would drop him for Ludick)
15. Lambie
@wpw (Comment 30) :
You were obviously “gesuip” last weekend – Habana got carded. It was a good call as he was embarrasing himself.
@wpw (Comment 31) : are you telling me that this whole S14 stormers didn’t get one thing wrong
Y = Yellow card
R = Red card
C = citing with suspension ❓ 😕
@try time (Comment 2) : @try time (Comment 3) : Nice try but I know you better than that 😆
Eish – learn the lesson people – You want to take the one shinning light in your dismal Super 14 and get him into the same boat as Pienaar and in the past Frans Steyn and shuffle him around the backline …
What the hell is wrong with you?
Leave Lambie at 15 or i predict you will turn on him like a pack of rabid dogs when he fails to deliver out of position and he will head off to a Union or Club that lets him play rugby where he was meant to
As to the Oom – how he still get selected is beyond me, sure he has been a stalwart over the years but please he has become increasingly useless – One big hit against a semi contender doesn’t make a season and i cannot think of one other game where the Oom served any purpose other than making up the numbers.
It was as little as two years ago we were in awe of the Sharks juniors academey – whats has happened to that.
Ask your commercial manager … or better yet tell him to stop importing expensive international flyhalves which do nothing but take your money and deliver nothing.
@wpw (Comment 30) : @Chaz (Comment 34) : The Stormers only card this year was Habana on Saturday.
@Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 36) : amen.
@Pokkel (Comment 37) :
Ja, just realised that.
This Sammy bloke sure is aggressive!! 🙄
@Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 36) : true, leave the kid at 15.
@wpw (Comment 39) : Burger can be glad that he wasn’t carded against the Sharks…..Schalk raak kwaai as sy span verloor 🙄
@Pokkel (Comment 41) : 👿 so if they loose its going to be hell to pay in Stormers Land 😕
@wpw (Comment 39) :
Aggressive ❓ 😈 , just pointing out to you that you have short term memory loss (very short term) and thats normally from a too good partyyyyy. Regarding Habs, hell he was not good and if truth be told has not been great this whole season so far.
@rugbypedia (Comment 16) :
Fully agree with you.
@Pokkel (Comment 41) :
Burger is a LEGEND!! 😀
@Salmonoid (Comment 43) :
He hasn’t been his usual self but he will be back. 😎
@rugbypedia (Comment 16) : has Stefan shown leadership this Super 14? He has regularly been the worst backline player on the park… how is that leadership? Do as I say, not as I do?
GO SHARKS !!!
@Letgo (Comment 12) : I was not that impressed with Vodacom Cup team so I agree that Stef is still a good option.
Besides one mustn’t underestimate the value that old head brings to the team. Just wished Stef stopped thinking it’s football and he must kick the ball all the time.
@robdylan (Comment 47) : nee – jp may just edge him 😆
@Charlie (Comment 48) :
Julle season is mos oor of hoe??
Nou moet jy skree GO STORMERS!!!
Jy weet mos jy wil… lol 😈
@Oubaas2009 (Comment 18) : i also think cronje may be a good bet – just give him some time to prove himself – was not doing to badly last year (not exactly guns blazing) but decent.
@Ice (Comment 23) : hey. i have never questioned his loyalty or his work ethic. he does give 110%. i just question his decision making ability, that has nothing to do with commitment. andries strauss gives the same level of commitment, but i wouldn’t put him in a bok jersey. players have limitations and stefan’s are his ability to make good decisions quickly.
@wpw (Comment 51) : Watte ! Moenie ko speelie, nie vi die Breezes nie 👿
@rekinek (Comment 29) : yeah rob’s sources aren’t that great. 😆 😉
i see a lot of people being disappointed. lambie is moving into flyhalf from what i have picked up. so start getting used to the idea of stef or ludik at 15.
@try time (Comment 56) :
I picked up the same from an article in Rapport. At the end of the day it doesnt matter who is dissappointed as long as the player himself doesnt dissapoint himself.
@Salmonoid (Comment 57) : For the record I will be one of the disappointed ones, but at least it will be during the CC and not the S14.
@wpw (Comment 46) :
Fans / media have put too much pressure on him to perform. Everytime he got the ball the crowd would cheer in anticipation, -this was more evident at the start of the season.
some intersting stuff just hit the press overseas about Kockott. Apparently the seriousl talented scrumhlf signed with Leciester tigers for massive money, seen as though they just made the premieship final..not a bad team to play for. poor chap..he probably got gatvol of wasting all his matchwinning talent on the bench at the sharks. hope he comes back hes still young isnt he.
@axlebow (Comment 60) : 😯 😯 😯 how true is this story
😕
@axlebow (Comment 60) : About 23 or so. Pity for the Sharks, but I don’t think he would have been considered for the Boks.
@Chaz (Comment 61) : maybe as true as Ruan going to Ulster 😆
@rekinek (Comment 62) : so we loose yet another shark 😥
ok me out for the day me daughter wants to go on facebook 😕
cheers
@Chaz (Comment 65) : why don’t you tell her to do dishes
cheerioo
@rekinek (Comment 66) : eeee you don’t want to know her answers do you 😳 but you right 😆
apparently the coaching staff at leciester have been contactinh him since ruans speculations weren’t true, heyneke meyer also used to be there didnt he, and he might of hooked up the connection..it would be a shame for the sharks. whos next.. well word is that ruans only gonna last till the WC 2011 then he’ll be looking at the $$ i guess
@axlebow (Comment 68) : sorry to ask are you new on the SW site 🙂
yip joined today, great chat u guys got here
💡
@axlebow (Comment 70) : yes we do but that arrow next to your name press it me friend to comment to someone oh and welcome to the site
@axlebow (Comment 70) : load a pic and get points 😆
@axlebow (Comment 68) : Welcome to the site….and I really hope your first comment proves not to be true.
@axlebow (Comment 70) : welcome to the site.
KSA Sharks lets me pretend I’m in charge 🙂
Say it aint so!
Rather play with the grandkids Oupa: you have had a long and successful run so far.
@Salmonoid (Comment 57) : i am sure he won’t mind. it is an important position and if he does well it will definitely up his value. my gut feel is he will do well. if you watched the force sharks game on saturday you could see he was hanging around the ruck a lot as if he was getting a feel for the position. if you have a copy of the game you will be surprised at how much he hung out in the backline.
@axlebow (Comment 60) : his game suits the 9 man nh game. but he isn’t 15 man material. ruan saw a lot more ball when charl came on.
Hi all, its been 2 weeks since my last confession:
I bought tickets for me and the misses for the Bulls game, and i`m planning to support the bulls. 🙁 i will not wear blue and sing the bulls song, but ill maybe stand up and smile if they score a try… that acceptable?
anyways, Stef will make way anyhow. He said in the Afrikaans sunday paper that he wants to stay on even if it is in a sort of coaching position. Another thing that i saw is that Plum admitted to giving Lambie the flyhalf birth… 😀
@VanWilder (Comment 78) : enjoy it.
I also wanted to go (mainly to see Orlando stadium) but took so long in buying tickets that they got sold out
@VanWilder (Comment 78) : shit that must be excruciatingly painful if plum has to give birth to lambie the flyhalf. 😆 😆
@rekinek (Comment 79) : do you still want tickets???
you going to find a lot of people getting lost going to orlando stadium. i can see them sitting in their cars going “soweto now?”
@VanWilder (Comment 81) : I may. Would have to check with the half. Do you have any more ?
@try time (Comment 82) : 😆 😆
@try time (Comment 82) : nee the buses will take them – apparently no braais at Nasrec and this other parking.
@VanWilder (Comment 78) : I hope you mean “berth”… the picture of Plum giving birth to Lambie is simply not one I want in my mind 🙂
@rekinek (Comment 83) : no, but stumbled on a few for R350. i dont know how long it will still be available. mail me again so i can forward the contact details of the oke.
@robdylan (Comment 86) : 😳 sorry man, the wife keeps bugging me with the idea of kids… i think its taking over my thoughts. 😕
@VanWilder (Comment 88) : don’t be sorry. a little humour is welcomed on this site.
@VanWilder (Comment 87) : will do.
@VanWilder (Comment 87) : and thank you 😛
@robdylan (Comment 86) : I read somewhere that we do not really read all the letters but rather guess a word based on few most prominent letters in each word. I did not even register VW’s typo I read it as “berth” when reading the first time.
@try time (Comment 89) : i actually had a good laugh when Rob mentioned it… somehow i pictured the plum/lambie birth at a post match interview. 😯 😆 😆
@rekinek (Comment 92) : There is a study floating around somewhere – if the first and last letters are correct you can pretty much write dribble and readers will understand it
@rekinek (Comment 92) : hey, i dropped u a mail. give the guy a call.
@Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 94) : yip, raed auobt it semohwree. its wnordufl how the barin wroks.
@VanWilder (Comment 95) : 😎
Totally agree. The Sharks seriously need to start developing some talent in the Currie Cup. For a union like the Sharks to finish the S14 in the bottom half of the table. Sharks should be finishing top 4.
@VanWilder (Comment 78) : oh my i heard that before frinds wanted to go also to a bulls game and was scared they might mo!r him because he is a cheetah so a friend said ok wear my rugby jersey so he did and at the end of the game he went home washed the jersey and gave it back now that is 👿 and 😈 and a soar looser if a supporter no matter what team you wear the team s jersey you support which in my case a shark where ever i go camping ETC
@try time (Comment 82) : all going with a bus etc 😆
Who says Blanche has not been mentoring Lambie at FB? Who says Blanche won’t be a good choice for captain…It will be either him or Botes and both have the same type of personality on field (or so it seems to me).
If ever there was a genuine role model on field it has to be Blanche, probably the biggest gentleman to walk a rugby field ever. Someone whom kids should be taught to aspire to be like.
Blanche has had 1 – ONE – ONE!!! bad season and as is the custom with Sharks supporters we call for his head (probably why our FH tally for this year stands at 0 for 3). Before you throw his age at me, does anyone remember Johan Ackerman? Considering this, can someone please tell me how many injuries Blanche has had since returning to the Sharks? And our so-called younger players?
So for the last time, why are we calling for Blanche’s head after one bad season? Especially considering his 100% injury free run? Do we really believe he won’t be back for another two seasons of super rugby?
@axlebow (Comment 60) : This is the best news I’ve heard in a long time…please let it be true and let the Sharks move on to a decent scrummy.
@VanWilder (Comment 78) : No…not acceptable.
@FireTheLooser (Comment 101) : Bravo dude, I’m with you!!!
@Letgo (Comment 102) : Very nasty letgo, I also have my problems with Rory but the issues I have can be corrected and I will certainly not wish him away. Did you see the Stormers game?? Rory was great in that game.
I’ll certainly rather let Oupa go than Rory.