Sharks should try to net Venter

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Lions, Original Content, Sharks on 28 May 2010 at 10:17
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Since hunting (or is that poaching?) season seems well and truly under way, my feeling is that the Sharks really should be looking at boosting their depth in the centrers. While my information is that efforts are ongoing to secure the services of Jean de Villiers, I reckon it would make a lot of sense for the Sharks to take a serious look at a player like the Lions’ Walter Venter.

Don’t get me wrong – I feel that de Villiers would be a hugely successful signing if the Sharks did manage to pull it off, but the real value in landing a big fish like that is more in terms of marketing and the associated “feel good factor” that comes from having such a household name play in your colours. A little like the surprise signings of bob Skinstad and Percy Montgomery a few years ago, de Villiers would implicitly send a signal that all is right again in Sharks land and may even attract other players to look at the Union with fresh eyes.

In terms of bang for buck, though, Jean de Villiers would be a very expensive luxury. As a shoe-in for the World Cup squad (unless he manages to somehow miss his third one through injury) it’s safe to assume that he would play no Currie Cup rugby this season, as well as being “carefully managed” through the inaugural Super 15 competition next year. None of the World Cup Boks are signing anything that extends past next year anyway, so again safe to assume that de Villiers will be off to Europe again the moment the dust settles on the 2011 season. Walter Venter, while a solid, experienced player in his own right, is unlikely to cost anywhere near what de Villiers would and since he isn’t currently anywhere near the Bok squad, could quickly establish himself as a core member of the Sharks Currie Cup (and Super 15) team.

Venter is widely rumoured to be unhappy in Joburg anyway, with Doppies la Grange regularly preferred at inside centre. A slew of new signings over the past year, including Deon van Rensburg, Alwyn Hollenbach, Marius Delport and most recently Waylon Murray means that Venter is equally unlikely to see game time at outside centre for the Lions and it would make sense for him to move to a team desperately in need of creative midfield backs. Regularly topping the tackle stats for the Lions this season, he is ultra-reliable on defence, but it’s his skill with ball in hand that could be most beneficial to the Sharks. As a relatively senior player (at the ripe old age of 25) he could also assist in grooming younger players on either side of him, such as Guy Cronje at flyhalf and Jean Stemmet at outside centre. Pretty much a no-lose situation for the Sharks.

Venter has, to all intents and purposes, been properly stuffed around by the Lions administration and a succession of coaches over the last few seasons. A born-and-bred Joburg boy, he could become just the latest in a long line of talent to find a new lease on life in Durban, after being regularly overlooked in his home town. Jean Deysel, Rory Kockott, Willem Alberts… the list of former Lions plying their trade in Durban is a long one and they do seem to fit in better and stay longer than the Free State boys. Come on, Sharks – go get Walter Venter! I have a feeling he could really bring our backline to life.


  • When i first saw the headline i was worried it was Saracens Dr Venter ! 😯

    I see the Crusaders are working hard on luring Sonny Bill Williams for next years Super 15

    SBW on Venter……. Nice 😎

  • Comment 1, posted at 28.05.10 10:34:06 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • Eish.. Not convinced with Walter. He seems more like another Andries Strauss type. Not going to win any trophies because of Walter. We have enough average in our backline. We need some stars. Look what Fourie and Habana have done for the Stormers.

    Candidates who will not break the bank but may be on offer? Ebersohn’s are a prospect but not there yet. Possibly Doppies himself is a better bet? Other than that Juan De Jongh is not going to be chuffed if JDV ends up at Province. Meyer Bosman?

    Big name signings? Barrit back in the mix? Sonny Bill Williams (but he will break the bank!) Marius Joubert may be over the hill?

    No. I think JDV is our man.

  • Comment 2, posted at 28.05.10 10:36:02 by Oubaas2009 Reply

  • @Oubaas2009 (Comment 2) : I’ve been impressed by what I’ve seen of him.

  • Comment 3, posted at 28.05.10 10:38:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 1) : Reports on Reunion suggest Sonny Bill is hoping to make the RWC squad as if he goes downunder he will have to take a serious pay cut from Toulon. Looks like a fantastic talent at 12. Much needed for you boys down south as Ma’a is no RWC 12.

  • Comment 4, posted at 28.05.10 10:39:12 by Oubaas2009 Reply

  • Same here rob, great defender, eye for a gap, and way faster than strauss,oubaas obviously never seen him play

  • Comment 5, posted at 28.05.10 10:41:09 by willa Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 3) : Ja, admit I have not seen too much of him and he may provide some more depth but I think the Stormers have shown, you do need some big guns in the backline.

    At the moment we have none left! Their are some stars on the rise but we need some established stars I feel.

    That said Walter might help as you suggested to provide some depth at 12. After Swannie who else is there?

  • Comment 6, posted at 28.05.10 10:41:41 by Oubaas2009 Reply

  • @Oubaas2009 (Comment 2) :

    Sonny Bill Williams & O’Driscoll….. that looks competent.

    Get real …. who wants to go to the Sharks anyway !

    …..Mapoe ….he played centre this year once !

  • Comment 7, posted at 28.05.10 10:42:32 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Oubaas2009 (Comment 4) :

    I love how people say Nonu is no RWC Centre …lets face it he is the best 12 on the planet bar none.

    ….he is a huge hole in the AB’s .

    SBW a huge talent….or should i say he is just huge ! 😉

  • Comment 8, posted at 28.05.10 10:45:04 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @willa (Comment 5) : I’ve seen him play, just not every week as he does not make the Lions run on team very often.

    How many game have you seen him play?

  • Comment 9, posted at 28.05.10 10:46:27 by Oubaas2009 Reply

  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 8) : Eish, you lads have problems if you want Ma’a at 12 for your RWC 2011 campaign. He was best left out on the wing like in Tana’s day when you still managed to win the Tri Nations. 😆

  • Comment 10, posted at 28.05.10 10:49:18 by Oubaas2009 Reply

  • Doppies is also a ex Natal boy, he is from Port Natal if I am not mistaken.

  • Comment 11, posted at 28.05.10 10:50:33 by Uli Reply
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  • I’ve seen him play a lot, those great tries carlos scored against the blues,he had alot to do with it, as much as I like swannies, if walter get a few weeks of game time, he will replace him easily, he plays the same style as de jonge

  • Comment 12, posted at 28.05.10 10:53:52 by willa Reply

  • @Uli (Comment 11) : Doppies kom terug…. Oh Doppies kom terug. I can hear the Kings Park faithful singing it.

  • Comment 13, posted at 28.05.10 10:54:44 by Oubaas2009 Reply

  • @willa (Comment 12) : I’ll take your word for it. So sign him up.

    But we still left with at best a 9. Kockett 10. Cronje/Dumond 11. JPP 12. Venter/Swanepoel 13. Jacobs 14. Mvovo/Odwa 15. Lambie

    We need some more big names I think if we want S15 chances.

  • Comment 14, posted at 28.05.10 10:58:12 by Oubaas2009 Reply

  • @10 I agree,def a 10, and I don’t know if I’m sure about adi anymore, I liked him better as impact player

  • Comment 15, posted at 28.05.10 11:01:46 by willa Reply

  • @Oubaas2009 (Comment 14) : Looking at that lineup, I reckon we need some big physical centres ala JDV or Jacques Fourie style. Not a very physical backline at all except Swannie.

  • Comment 16, posted at 28.05.10 11:02:39 by Oubaas2009 Reply

  • why Walter Venter??? i think Doppies le grange had a far better S14 before he got injured. Doppies was by far the stand out player in a rather boring lions side and he likes to run a lot to which is something that would help the sharks in many ways.

    lets get Doppies to durban!!

  • Comment 17, posted at 28.05.10 11:04:15 by richzed Reply

  • @willa (Comment 15) : And I forgot about Pretoors!

    Yip, we badly need to identify the 10,12 axis.

  • Comment 18, posted at 28.05.10 11:04:41 by Oubaas2009 Reply

  • @Oubaas2009 (Comment 10) :

    He’s not going to get onto the wing….we have talent there even though it is from Fiji ! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 19, posted at 28.05.10 11:08:19 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Oubaas2009 (Comment 6) : Dries Strauss 😉

  • Comment 20, posted at 28.05.10 11:09:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Oubaas2009 (Comment 14) :

    Could easily be the same top 4 next year just in a different order.

    Maybe the Blues and Reds to threaten a bit more !

    Can’t see the Sharks in the Top 6

  • Comment 21, posted at 28.05.10 11:10:21 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @18 ja rather forget about petoors please:)but also anyone but monty
    Anyway guys have a good weekend,en the final, good luck to the stormers,I’m off to play some golf!

  • Comment 22, posted at 28.05.10 11:12:58 by willa Reply

  • Amen Rob. been calling for this for a few years now. he`s being wasted at the Lions. He`s one of only a few centres who understands the concept of breaking the line and offloading to someone in a better position than him. I`m not a big fan of Helgard Muller, but he could break the line on his day at will. all his outside centres became springboks because of him. reminds me of a guy who played for the sharks a while back, anyone remember a laaitie called Brad barrit?

  • Comment 23, posted at 28.05.10 11:24:54 by VanWilder Reply

  • The problem with signing high profile player so close to a World Cup is that you are limited in their services they will give you, and most who aren’t established in provinces already, are mercenaries.

    And I think the Sharks have had enough of those.

  • Comment 24, posted at 28.05.10 11:29:31 by Morné Reply
  • As for Walter, said some time ago already this kid has the goods.

  • Comment 25, posted at 28.05.10 11:30:26 by Morné Reply
  • Walter Venter was in my first CC fantasy league team a year or 2 ago.

  • Comment 26, posted at 28.05.10 11:32:48 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I say let The sharks go on a major recruitment drive, and only try and get back players from this provice. I am sure we would have a very good team if we have them all back in KZN.

  • Comment 27, posted at 28.05.10 11:33:54 by Uli Reply
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  • @VanWilder (Comment 23) : the name rings a bell, but can’t recall why 🙂

  • Comment 28, posted at 28.05.10 11:37:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • Walter has a very good work- rate, his defence is excellent. He is the rigbt man for the Sharks 12.

  • Comment 29, posted at 28.05.10 12:03:19 by Tiger Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 28) : yip, geez, how we miss that guy!!

  • Comment 30, posted at 28.05.10 12:06:39 by VanWilder Reply

  • @VanWilder (Comment 30) : Saracens are enjoying him. Their players of the season 🙁

    And yet still no closer to the international recognition he deserves.

  • Comment 31, posted at 28.05.10 12:11:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 28) : hey rob, why dont we start a players club. We get about 10,000 people to join who each pay an amount of R100 to the club. that gives us a budget of R1,000,000 a month. damn the union then, we buy our own players… on R2,000,000 a year contract we could buy 6 high profile players… who`s in?? 😕 😀

  • Comment 32, posted at 28.05.10 12:17:00 by VanWilder Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 31) : i saw on skysports in an interview with Johnson that he`s not the biggest fan of barritt… why i dont know. who`s playing at inside for the pomeys?

  • Comment 33, posted at 28.05.10 12:20:32 by VanWilder Reply

  • @VanWilder (Comment 32) : that is not a shit idea…

  • Comment 34, posted at 28.05.10 12:34:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • @VanWilder (Comment 23) :
    Yes, Mossie 13 held the record for Tries at SchoolMonnas and Walter was his no 12, Habana held the record for tries at no 13 (0/21)and Walter played 12 with him . This makes one think

  • Comment 35, posted at 28.05.10 12:41:16 by Tiger Reply

  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : i reckon we could net a few with that idea??

  • Comment 36, posted at 28.05.10 12:44:49 by VanWilder Reply

  • @Tiger (Comment 35) : yip, and that was the same with barritt. not a flashy player, but defended well and made his outside look like a world class player. is it any coincedence that Waylon started to lose form after brad left?

  • Comment 37, posted at 28.05.10 12:46:45 by VanWilder Reply

  • Willen Albers 8 loved to play with Walter because he was alwys on his shoulder, as he new Walter would offload

  • Comment 38, posted at 28.05.10 12:50:43 by Tiger Reply

  • What about a fear swop, Walter for Waylon.

  • Comment 39, posted at 28.05.10 12:51:35 by Tiger Reply

  • @Tiger (Comment 35) : but i have to agree. regular game time at the sharks would see this guy boom…

  • Comment 40, posted at 28.05.10 12:53:16 by VanWilder Reply

  • Walter is a fantastic linking player, someone who will help the guys who play outside of him to shine and will put in the big hits on defense, the type of player who does not get the applause but is nevertheless vital to his teams cause, he would be a very very good signing

  • Comment 41, posted at 28.05.10 14:28:15 by war1 Reply
  • Play Lomu at 12 if you want: with no decent 10 in sight it will make naught difference.

  • Comment 42, posted at 28.05.10 14:59:57 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 42) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 43, posted at 28.05.10 15:11:13 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • I was thinking more along the lines of the Hurricanes flyhalf . . . Cruden? That`s the sort of abrasive player we need in mid field right now. He`ll love Dbn . . . make him an offer guys!!!

  • Comment 44, posted at 28.05.10 15:40:08 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • Ruan Boshoff and Walter will do good at 10 and 12.At the Lions they did well, but Dick-head will not play them.

  • Comment 45, posted at 28.05.10 16:36:38 by Tiger Reply

  • @Tiger (Comment 45) : you reckon there’s any truth to the rumours about Boshoff?

  • Comment 46, posted at 28.05.10 17:02:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • I think it can be tru. Hel and he is a good player.

  • Comment 47, posted at 28.05.10 17:06:36 by Tiger Reply

  • @Original Pierre (Comment 44) :

    Cruden is about 5 stone ….he could never play in the mid field.

    Great talent though ! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 48, posted at 28.05.10 17:39:26 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @VanWilder (Comment 32) : @robdylan (Comment 34) :

    I’m in ! 😉

  • Comment 49, posted at 28.05.10 17:41:48 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 42) :

    I think he is available ! 😉

  • Comment 50, posted at 28.05.10 17:42:31 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 48) :

    “5 stone”. You’ve been imperialised. 🙄

  • Comment 51, posted at 28.05.10 17:43:34 by klempie Reply

  • @klempie (Comment 51) :

    That’s the trouble with this country ! 😐

  • Comment 52, posted at 28.05.10 17:49:36 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 52) : It’s your own fault for not republicising when you had the chance. Now you feel obligated to adopt Her Majesty’s customs.

    Do the right thing. 😎

  • Comment 53, posted at 28.05.10 17:53:05 by klempie Reply

  • 1 Stone = 6.350293kgs. 🙄

  • Comment 54, posted at 28.05.10 17:53:57 by KSA Stormer © Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 53) :


    It is over due…. but the Maori’s would never have it !

  • Comment 55, posted at 28.05.10 18:20:35 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @KSA Stormer © (Comment 54) :

    You sound more English than me….whats the fascination !

  • Comment 56, posted at 28.05.10 18:21:17 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • I don’t think that Adriaan S, will be please with this move, as Walter totally overshadowed him during the Vasity cup.

  • Comment 57, posted at 28.05.10 18:22:40 by Tiger Reply

  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 55) : Why’s that? I’d have thought they’d be its biggest proponents?

  • Comment 58, posted at 28.05.10 18:25:40 by klempie Reply

  • @klempie (Comment 58) :

    No never… They have ‘The Treaty of Waitangi’

    ….signed between the British Crown and them back in 1840

    ….. they would never want this jeopardised by a republic

  • Comment 59, posted at 28.05.10 18:34:51 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 58) :

    the Maoris and the English get on like a house on fire

  • Comment 60, posted at 28.05.10 18:36:00 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 59) : @Hertford Highlander (Comment 60) : Interesting…

  • Comment 61, posted at 28.05.10 18:38:15 by klempie Reply

  • @klempie (Comment 61) :

    …it’s everyone else they hate ! 😎

  • Comment 62, posted at 28.05.10 18:41:17 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 56) :

    I hate Dutchman. 😆

  • Comment 63, posted at 28.05.10 18:50:28 by KSA Stormer © Reply

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  • @KSA Stormer © (Comment 63) : Well, given that Maoris hate everyone other than the Poms, it would seem you are not alone. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 64, posted at 28.05.10 18:51:55 by klempie Reply

  • @KSA Stormer © (Comment 63) :

    I found them ok in Amsterdam !

    ….then again i can’t remember much ! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 65, posted at 28.05.10 18:58:28 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 65) : Not thoooooooose Dutchmen. 🙄 The ones from Loftus. 😆 😆 😆

  • Comment 66, posted at 28.05.10 18:59:37 by klempie Reply

  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 65) :

    A Dutch person is a different nationality to a Dutchman. 😛

    It is a derogatory name for SOME afrikaans people in South Africa.

    As I say Afrikaans is a language and Dutchman is a mentality. sort of like Redneck is a mentality and doesn’t matter which state you come from. 😉

  • Comment 67, posted at 28.05.10 19:01:00 by KSA Stormer © Reply

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  • walter venter don,t know about that ,who we need to get is robert eberson from fs or stefan watermeyer from the bulls ,doppies la grange is keeping walter venter out the lions team and that isn,t a good sign

  • Comment 68, posted at 28.05.10 21:52:12 by zvision10 Reply

  • oh lets get burton francias as well or francios brummer he won,t want to wait behind m.steyn and j.l.potgitier forever .with all the talent having to wait in the wings at the bulls and cheetahs why don,t we buy them ,they won,t cost that much and the bulls have got about 4 flyhalfs better than guy cronje in their system

  • Comment 69, posted at 28.05.10 21:57:54 by zvision10 Reply

  • @zvision10 (Comment 68) : And how he keeps him out no one will now, Walter is a much better player that Doppies.

  • Comment 70, posted at 29.05.10 07:49:07 by Tiger Reply

  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 48) : urm well if you put it that way. Sorry forget I said anything. We don`t need ” stoners” in the side . . :mrgreen:

    He did remind me of the great Christian Cullen in a way. Not saying he`s in Cullens` league! Just something I thought about.

  • Comment 71, posted at 29.05.10 11:14:03 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 1) : So did i, 🙁 now that would be fantastic.

  • Comment 72, posted at 29.05.10 14:50:30 by Treehugger Reply

  • Doppies is not good enough to play for a top side in SA or any country for that matter.
    He defends well and gets over the advantage line more often than not but that is where it ends I’m afraid.
    He is a very limited inside centre!!
    I can’t believe he is keeping Walter out of the side!!

  • Comment 73, posted at 29.05.10 15:16:52 by wpw Reply
  • @Original Pierre (Comment 71) :
    That kid is seriousy talented – I would gladly have him playing for the Sharks.

  • Comment 74, posted at 29.05.10 15:25:25 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 73) : Totaly agreed, But Dick-head does not think that way

  • Comment 75, posted at 29.05.10 15:26:20 by Tiger Reply

  • All Walter needs is someone to beleive in him and give him a opertunity.

  • Comment 76, posted at 29.05.10 15:28:58 by Tiger Reply

  • I’m a huge Venter fan. Believe him to potentially be one of Sa’s best at 12. Lions screwing him around. You have my blessing to get/poach him. Not that you need it…..

  • Comment 77, posted at 30.05.10 19:33:54 by WilladieLeeu Reply

  • Just my opinion, but i don’t rate venter at all. Yes, he has his moments, but he is nothing better than what we have available in our squad currently. He also lacks at least 5 kgs. How could we let all our centres leave bobo,rees,barrit,steyn…might be even more over the past 2 years. Jean d would be great, but he will never feel at home in a Sharks jersey unfortunately. Hope we get someone for 12 and 10 soon, that is not older than 26 or 27.

  • Comment 78, posted at 30.05.10 20:04:51 by JJR Reply
  • @JJR (Comment 78) : Do you know wat Venter Weighs because, as it seems you have no clue.

  • Comment 79, posted at 30.05.10 20:25:02 by Tiger Reply

  • JJR
    Rees?? Bobo?? 😯
    Those 2 didn’t do much while they were in Durban! 😆

  • Comment 80, posted at 30.05.10 20:41:04 by wpw Reply
  • The Beeld nuus indicates Meyer Bosman to play for the Sharks, now that is not a good move.

  • Comment 81, posted at 31.05.10 06:56:36 by Tiger Reply

  • @Tiger (Comment 81) : Saw the same here.. . Im not sure on this, but I guess more depth is better than what the Sharks have now.

  • Comment 82, posted at 31.05.10 08:43:50 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @Tiger (Comment 81) :

    Why not??

    He is much better than any of your current centres, the exception being Adi of course.

    He is quite solid and he can play at 10 as well. Not a bad option at all.

  • Comment 83, posted at 31.05.10 08:47:16 by wpw Reply
  • @wpw (Comment 83) : I can’t believe Meyer is still only 25. It feels like he’s been around forever.

  • Comment 84, posted at 31.05.10 09:04:50 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Well, with Bosman we have a potential flyhalf and centre. We could do worse.

  • Comment 85, posted at 31.05.10 14:03:33 by rhineshark Reply
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  • It seems the battle for JdV is over. The Beeld and others are reporting him as having signed with the Stormers. oh well, back to the drawing board…

  • Comment 86, posted at 31.05.10 14:54:42 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Pound for pound there is no better defender that Walter Venter, did you see him cut Slade apart with game against the Saders. Apparently he weighs 96 kg.

  • Comment 87, posted at 31.05.10 15:57:36 by Tiger Reply

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    ps. MAPOE——-great graet Signing

    15.Steyn/ Ludik / Bambie/ !!!! Lambie…awsome talent(Bulk Up Boy)
    14.Mopoe /Ludik
    13.Murry(the Lion)/ If Some One Focuses (De Jong)/Ludik
    12.Barrit(Venter, Walter / Bosman-distribution King…Lem of old without the big hits
    11. Pieterson /Ludik
    10. Butch(Not an Option James)Grant Pieter/ Pienaar(tie him down-steal his plaIN tICKET)/ Lambie(talented 10!!!)

    9. cockycockette
    6.Botes/ daniel / Orrrr…wait for IT…bRUSSOW
    4. hargreefs / Alberts/ pLEASE SOMEONE BRING BACK
    1.SMIT / jANNIE / PAT

    hEY LETS ADD UP…..WINNING GAMES vs winning income = Great revinue Players have more value…….My dream Taem….bring on the bulls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!or the boks mixed with the ALL bLACKS BEST WE CAN WHIP THEM TOOOO….AND LETS GET JAKE AND EDDIE……

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  • Just wanted to spread the ideas- 😉

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  • FYI – go check this out… seems the winner is Meyer Bosman

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