Stop the carding!

Written by Gavin Whindus (Whindy)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks, Tri Nations on 2 Aug 2010 at 09:08
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Red card, yellow card… how about following football’s lead? BOOK THEM!!

Right so yet another three yellow cards and one red this week-end and I am thinking to myself as a spectator, who has paid a lot of money, is it right that a player is removed from the field and the game reduced to a farce? Is it not time to follow Footballs example and book players and ban them after the game, I am just tired of seeing, what could have been a good game, reduced to a farce because a referee, in an instant, has to make a decision, on what he saw or what he thought he saw and lets face it, these guys are under extreme pressure, no doubt about it. So why not book a player and if he is innocent, as I believe Danie Rossouw was, then he will have right of appeal after the game, but to send a player off for 10 minutes and reduce the game to a farce is nothing short of ridiculous!!

This however, then opens another can of worms, because now players will perform professional fouls, in certain instances, were they know the worst thing that can happen, is they are booked and in the mean time they have slowed the ball down to such an extent, that the other side loose a try scoring opportunity. This is still countered, to a certain extent, by two yellow bookings becoming a red card offence and then they are removed from the field, but at least the game has not been influenced by a player being sent from the field and the other team scoring a couple of tries and the game is gone as a contest. For example, the first two games of the Tri Nations and don’t get me wrong I don’t think we would have won those games anyway, so I am not looking for an excuse for the Boks. I do however believe that the games would have been more competitive, and the poor bloke who forked out R17,000 to support the Boks would have at least got his moneys worth, as far as a contest was concerned. He may still have had a problem with the result!!

Now I hear you, when you say yes but if the player had been disciplined in the first place this would not have happened, but in the case of Drew Mitchell, was it really necessary for him to be removed from the field, for throwing the ball away? In terms of the Laws, yes, it is a requirement, Craig Joubert clearly warned them!! But for the poor spectator, it is just not fair, that it becomes such a one sided affair and the game is gone as a contest. In the Tri Nations, it also affects the non playing side, as yesterday saw the All Blacks get a bonus point and don’t get me wrong I think they would have anyway, but the question is still there, what if a 15 man outfit had managed to stop the All Blacks scoring the Bonus point? The Tri Nations would still be up for grabs, but this is all hypothetical anyway.

In this case, my suggestion would not have worked, as it was his second yellow card and he would have been red carded anyway and the All Blacks will tell you if you are disciplined, it is not an issue!!

What do you think??


  • Well, first of all I think it’s ridiculous to be yellow carded for throwing the ball away anyway! If the opposing team is allowed to take a quick line-out, what else can you do to defend against it? It’s the same as the quick penalty… I believe if you want the benefit of a quick penaly, then you should forgo the benefit of having the defending players being 10 yards back. Similarly with the quick lineout… then you must forgo the benefit of having the players being behind the 5 yard line before they can play the ball.

    But otherwise… this is a difficult discussion, one that 29 comments on Morne’s article on the same issue last week couldn’t resolve 😀

  • Comment 1, posted at 02.08.10 09:33:03 by CS Reply
  • Nice read Windy !

    A couple of points… Rossouw wasn’t innocent, just unlucky the ref saw him and that he picked on McCaw (idiot) !

    Did he do the little knee in the head or the flick in the eyes or both on McCaw?

    As for Mitchell he deserved to go for just being dumb !

    …i really tried hard on the replay to find his infringement for his first yellow card but it is hard to find ! Maybe that is the one we should be questioning.

    Finally the tip tackle and the shoulder charge need clear definition.

    Franks and Whitelock could both have cases for not being carded on Saturday !

  • Comment 2, posted at 02.08.10 10:40:41 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • Great and i was saying to me hubby why don’t we use the yellow and red card of the soccer its much easier than to send off a player with a yellow and maybe red 😆

  • Comment 3, posted at 02.08.10 14:04:49 by chaz Reply

  • I like the institution of the Red Card and the Yellow card on the field – if we follow soccers lead we’ll just end up with even more handbag stuff after the game (like with the SA vs NZ games)and I like to watch rugby not soap operas. Also I believe that being sent off the field during a game is the biggest incentive for keeping play clean because no one wants to let down their teammates in a game. Punishing yellows in a soccer like fashion takes this away.

    I agree with you that we need some clarity on yellow cards for tackles. We see dangerous tip tackles and high tackles and tackles with no arms, the same way we see those same tackles thats absolutely without danger and harmless. I would suggest perhaps that these tackles be marked as potential penalty areas and that the ref should be allowed to use his own discretion as to whether or not it was in fact dangerous. Perhaps this will not exactly bring clarity on the subject, but we might see less silly cards being issued.

  • Comment 4, posted at 02.08.10 14:38:24 by MB1810 Reply

  • Re: tackles….just make it if your arms are extended in front of your shoulder it is not a shoulder charge.

    Tip tackles are a lot harder is regulate against…it’s difficult.

    Originally i thought it was justa way of preventing people being pile drived into the ground on their head.

    ….now if you lift someones legs through the horizontal …..

    ……your off ! Ridiculous

    ..ref’s need discretion on if it was dangerous.

  • Comment 5, posted at 02.08.10 14:49:27 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 5) : The refs have so much discretion in interpretation already….do you really want something else they have discretion on?? 🙄

  • Comment 6, posted at 02.08.10 15:10:44 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Well you wont find me disagreeing, I said as much last week too.

  • Comment 7, posted at 02.08.10 18:03:14 by Morné Reply
  • chicken to chicken:
    – I would like to become a soccer player
    – What stops you?
    – I don’t have money for acting classes.

  • Comment 8, posted at 02.08.10 18:22:49 by rekinek (Go Klose!) Reply
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  • This debate could rage on for years. There will never be a perfect solution.

    I do feel that the yellow card is there as a deterent but it needs to be meted out fairly.

  • Comment 9, posted at 02.08.10 21:46:11 by lostfish Reply
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